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[Anonymous No.16287221]

Books about autocracy?

[Anonymous No.16287231]

>>16287221
I hope Donnie wins just for the lulz. Biden is a dull carcass.

[Anonymous No.16287241]

>>16287221
Can’t wait for Trump to declare emergency powers desu

[Anonymous No.16287256]

>>16287221
The US should radically overhaul their voting system to have some kind of oversight so they know there is absolutely no voter fraud or suppression going on, then both the Dems and Republicans can stop crying about this.

Make a task force or agency or whatever and have it transparently identify every single legitimate voter and create some robust system that still affords each person privacy in their vote. There is no reason this should be impossible.

[Anonymous No.16287257]

>>16287221
Please make Trump the first American caesar. Literally who gives a shit about commies and their gay bugman agendas.

[Anonymous No.16287261]

American conservatives are alarmist clowns but why arent liberals written off as the primadonnas they so obviously are?

[Anonymous No.16287271]

>>16287261
>alarmist clowns
finally someone said it. Good job fellow white person!

[Anonymous No.16287281]

>>16287256
Trump was the guy to start it. If he hadn't gone out last election and raised the idea that the elections were rigged, nobody would raise that point.

[Anonymous No.16287285]

>>16287281
the republicans have been talking about voter fraud for a long time, and the dems about suppression. Im not interested in rooting through who is right, it's ridiculous that in 2020 a system cant be made to just identify every voter and count their vote.

[Anonymous No.16287287]

>>16287261
Because the corporations that own the dems also own the media.

[Anonymous No.16287291]

>>16287285
And in the suppression vs fraud debate who would benefit from the lack of such a system?

[Anonymous No.16287298]

>>16287291
Im deliberately not offering an opinion, partly because I know my own bias will cloud my judgment. What Im saying is that a task force that both sides helped create could eliminate the vast majority of ambiguity here.

[Anonymous No.16287320]

>>16287221
>libs think Hungary is an autocracy

[Anonymous No.16287326]

>>16287256
>There is no reason this should be impossible
First of all it doesn’t matter, because people will find other irrelevant things to cry about, and second, it is, have you seen the US government make any efficient and accountable governance?They don’t, and such an agency would just be victim to the same corruption and lack of accountability that people are crying about in the first place. Any such overhaul would just end up with the same problem, at least if it’s their government trying to implement it.

[Anonymous No.16287333]

>>16287320
It's turning that way

[Give a (You) if (You) get the (...) No.16287334]

Lmao why would anyone listen to this alarmist bitch

[Anonymous No.16287335]

Hello, I don’t get why there’s no boom suggestions. Op was clearly here to look for books about this

[Anonymous No.16287341]

>>16287326
>this whole post
And people say it's Jews and not mass political apathy that's causing America's decline

>>16287334
She's absolutely correct

[Anonymous No.16287347]

>>16287341
Political apathy and corruption are chicken and egg

[Anonymous No.16287349]

>>16287341
It’s clearly neither causing the decline though. They would instead help the US

[Anonymous No.16287352]

literally any latin american book

[Anonymous No.16287357]

>>16287352
>every latin american book is about autocracy

[Anonymous No.16287358]

>>16287347
Political apathy reduces corruption

[Anonymous No.16287371]

>>16287221
That's what you get for having a retarded electoral system

[Anonymous No.16287379]

>Booo Hooo Hungary is a dictatorship because le Orbán took away le funding from NGOniggers
Why are Westoids like this?

[Anonymous No.16287381]

>>16287241
That goes against the fucking constitution dipshit.

[Anonymous No.16287387]

>>16287381
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST DO WHATVER YOU WANT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW CONSTITUTIONAL AND PARLIMENTARY PROCEDURE OR IM CALLING THE COPERINOS NOOOOOO THE CONSTITUTION WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE GODDDUM CONSTITUTION YOU NEED TO FOLLOW IT

[Anonymous No.16287390]

>>16287381
According to the Constitutional scholar the Constitution is a living document

[Anonymous No.16287391]

>>16287256
The only part of the system that's broken is directly in the open and benefits status-quo politicians- namely that those in power get to decide what their districts look like. That's how Mitch McConnell can have an approval rating under 30% and still get elected.

[Anonymous No.16287397]

>>16287381
When was the last time the constitution was taken seriously?

[Anonymous No.16287399]

>>16287391
Just meet the other side half-way. If there is no fraud/suppression then you will lose nothing in creating a check for it.

[Anonymous No.16287400]

>>16287390
Yeah and if you can convince 80% of the country the president can suspend elections go for it anon. But with an approval rating southward of 33% that shit ain't happening.

[Anonymous No.16287402]

>>16287381
>NOT MUH PIECE OF PAPER

[Anonymous No.16287410]

>>16287399
There are no sides - McConnell and Schumer have been in office for 20+ years. Biden's been in office since 1974. Establishment dems love havint Trump in power, it means they get to be perpetual 'less awful' choice and Republicans love him in power because he rubberstamps all their shit while everyone melts down over the latest twitter shit.

[Anonymous No.16287416]

>>16287387
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.16287422]

Why are Americans so obsessed with conspiracy theories?

[Anonymous No.16287423]

Hey guys, I think I just fixed the voter suppression/registry problem in the US of A guys, hear me out. It's a super new and controversial idea. What if every time a new person is born that person gets assigned a "number" when they are registered. We can even call it "National Identification Number" you know? And then you get an identification card, lets call it "ID" with that number and also (hear me out guys, this is super innovative tech) a photo of your face and your fingerprint! Then, by the time anyone achieves voting age, that "identification number" and "identification card" gets automatically added to a super sophisticated database which we could call "voter registry", "voter database" or something like that. That way there wouldn't be much trouble with "voter fraud" since we can make those "ID" cards really hart to falsify.

Do you think other countries have applied something like this very sophisticated system. I don't think so, since not even the "most advanced democracy" has it!

[Anonymous No.16287425]

>>16287397
According to a quick google search, a few days ago

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=8709e467-6dee-4ab7-a94b-bce35b0aeba9

[Anonymous No.16287427]

>>16287257
Totally not a russian bot: the post.

[Anonymous No.16287441]

>>16287425
I meant as a whole, at what time.

[Anonymous No.16287445]

>>16287422
Heavy distrust in their government and prevalence of the internet.

[Anonymous No.16287465]

>>16287387
These posts are so fucking retarded but I laugh at them every time, it's so absurd

[Anonymous No.16287472]

>>16287465
Inoposting is a grower for sure

[Anonymous No.16287475]

>>16287281
>If he hadn't gone out last election and raised the idea that the elections were rigged
Yeah he was saying how the russians were helping Hillary Clinton fix the election, remember that?

[Anonymous No.16287480]

>>16287423
that's racist

[Anonymous No.16287484]

>>16287423
Thats commiting a racism

[Anonymous No.16287487]

>>16287221
>let's have another boring jewish pedophile as our president
at least trump isn't boring. he won't declare autocracy, but i sure hope he does.

[Anonymous No.16287497]

>>16287221
>Books about autocracy?

[Anonymous No.16287500]

>>16287422
They perceive that much of what is thought is just propaganda (which is more prevalent in the US), so they assume, like they have learned, it is like the Soviet Union or Germany under Hitler were there was a central authority for which information is controlled, instead of realising that it’s just a natural system which has evolved. Also, when you realise a lot of the media and academia, and thus most of your information, is just nonsense, it gets hard to distinguish truth from false because now you have an infinitely big spectrum of ideas to accept, and as this market is also based on excitement sane ones are less likely.

[Anonymous No.16287626]

>>16287500
>it’s just a natural system which has evolved

[Anonymous No.16287631]

>>16287400
33% are armed and trump has the military on his side. If he suspended elections, he would still maintain power.

[Anonymous No.16287639]

>>16287465
How is it retarded? It's mocking retards who have no argument and point to spooks on a paper.

[Anonymous No.16287760]

>>16287427
>muh russian boogeyman
dems got mindraped in 2016 and still can't get over it lol

[Anonymous No.16287774]

>>16287381
My allegiance is to Donald Trump, not the Constitution.

[Anonymous No.16287971]

>>16287423
Mail-in ballots will still be tossed in the trash from known districts.
Uncounted in person ballots will still be "found" on election night.

Assuming we are sticking with paper ballots, the security measures have to tied with the ballots too, not just the voter.

[Anonymous No.16287989]

>>16287221
If only Trump was what they say he is...

[Anonymous No.16288014]

>>16287221
It's not autocracy just because it's more socially acceptable to quietly nod or ignore you.

[Anonymous No.16288018]

>>16287989
Incompetent?

[Anonymous No.16288039]

>>16287221
As a leftist (auth) Donald Trump is the opposite of an authoritarian, and here’s why that’s a bad thing.

He’s a full on deregulate everything, slash taxes and spending, let the free market fix it, axe every regulation and agency, free market is best capitalist.

He is the OPPOSITE of an authoritarian (except for a couple of issues like immigration to appease his voter base) and stupid fucking uneducated libtards think authoritarian = evil so they use it as a slur against him.

[Anonymous No.16288054]

>>16287334
Libs are empty skulled automatons who exist to click like on any sound bites one of their precious puppet masters sharts out onto a public forum.

t. leftie

[Anonymous No.16288067]

>>16287465
Ok bootlicker

[Anonymous No.16288081]

>between late afternoon and evening in America when the Americans have free time
>low quality politics and twitter posting suddenly increases

[Anonymous No.16288103]

>>16287231
This desu, I hate the ideological basis of all the American political outlooks in mainstream, but trump winning again will be very funny

[Anonymous No.16288109]

>>16287639
>>16288067
I'm laughing at the form, not the content. The content is perfectly sound. I simply have low standards and am greatly amused by the mental imagery of a screaming and crying angry soijak hoarsely and shrilly screeching about calling "the coperinos". Reminds me of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvFlrnymW_o

Go to 00:32

[Anonymous No.16288150]

>>16288039
What are you talking about? He tried to ban an app because the zoomers there don't like him and wanted to sue social media for fact checks. Then there is the whole law and order rhetoric and him trying to kill elections. Just because he's comically incompetent doesn't mean he isn't authoritarian.

[Anonymous No.16288159]

>>16287631
>trump has the military on his side
Based on what? Most of the people donated for Sanders. Most of the higher ups are just industry shills who wouldn't tolerate him fucking the market THAT badly, unless he gives the MIC even more tax bucks.

[Anonymous No.16288191]

>>16288159
>Sanders
Yeah but he's not running, is he, retard?
And who is it that pays the army again?

[Anonymous No.16288194]

>>16288150
>He tried to ban an app because the zoomers there don't like him
Is this what he said? Because people that use it don't like him? Are you assuming that's the case? Or is it to force the chinese to sell Tiktok to an American company, so some rich cunt technocrat in Silicon Valley can profit off of it instead of the chinese? Riddle me this, why doesn't he try to force Zoom to stop using Chinese intellectual labor?[1] Zoom is hugely important to American society and became that way overnight. I think it's reasonable to assume that the Chinese government would try to use that as a vector to learn about vulnerabilities in the US digital infrastructure, or to simply gather intelligence from Zoom meetings. What is specifically authoritarian about that? Are the ADL and SPLC authoritarian for using their influence to control public perception?

>He wanted to sue social media for fact checks
Googling this only brings up lawsuits brought against Blumpf, could you provide some background to what you are talking about? Maybe cite your source?

>Then there is the whole law and order rhetoric
What's wrong with law and order? What's authoritarian about law and order? Is all law and all order authoritarian? If so, why?

>And him trying to kill elections
This is just alarmist retardation.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/zoom-key-profit-driver-ahead-of-ipo-engineers-in-china.html

[Anonymous No.16288198]

>>16288109
I forgot about this guy, platonic soiboy

[Anonymous No.16288208]

>>16288191
>Yeah but he's not running, is he
So this means the people who donated for him will suddenly want to fight for the total opposite?
>who is it that pays the army again?
The state. The president in question doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.16288213]

>>16288150
>muh heckin social mediarinos

Thinks like the economy and the EPA are way bigger, but if censoring parts of the media makes him authoritarian, then that list also includes almost every American President as well.

[Anonymous No.16288222]

>>16288150
>NOOO LET ME RIOTARINO

[Anonymous No.16288246]

>>16288159
>Most of the people donated for Sanders.

They can't be this retarded.

[Anonymous No.16288276]

>>16288194
>Or is it to force the chinese to sell Tiktok to an American company, so some rich cunt technocrat in Silicon Valley can profit off of it instead of the chinese?
Always possible too but hardly changes the initial situation of a president extorting a company. As he already did with Huawei.
>Maybe cite your source?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52843986
Feel free to look into it if the first link I found on Google is muh fake media.
>What's authoritarian about law and order?
I don't know, man. You tell me what's wrong with labeling protestors as terrorists and asking for more force instead of attempting deescalation.
>This is just alarmist retardation.
He tweeted about thinking to delay it. He tries to fuck the mail to make the only save option barely functional. Just recently he told his fans to commit fraud.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-encourages-supporters-vote-illegal/story?id=72791833

[Anonymous No.16288281]

>>16288246
Why wouldn't they donate to the only anti war candidate who also cares about them not becoming homeless fucks afterwards?

[Anonymous No.16288282]

America was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.16288294]

>>16287631
I am not really convinced Trump gives that much of a fuck. He's clearly been worn down by 4 years of the most spectacular bullshit ever conceived. 8 of his 9 grand children are jewish. He's going to be annihilated in court after he's out of office for his business dealings in New York. My speculation is that he's just going to play ball for the rest of his life so his children and grand kids don't get fucked with too bad. They'll be alright, he'll get a town or settlement in the West Bank named after him and some ass pats by Israeli jews and quietly go away, to be revived as a Hitler/Satan effigy now and then in the future whenever a White person forgets to apologize for being White (until, of course, the next republican candidate runs for office and becomes the new Hitler and they reminisce about Trump like they do with Bush and McCain now).

Trump hasn't done shit to actually become a real dictator. He's all bluster. He could issue executive orders more aggressively, he could use the IRS to hound the shit out of his enemies, he could interfere with the FBI way more aggressively. There's probably dozens of things he could easily do to secure more power but I think it's clear that he just picks shitty little battles to tweet about and then go golfing. If Trump was actually a real threat to globohomo they'd just poison him or blow his head off. It's way cheaper to simple coopt him and his message.

[Anonymous No.16288307]

>>16288281
>the only anti war candidate
here, you people tend to unconditionally accept whatever these types of websites say:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/02/facebook-posts/no-bernie-sanders-didnt-vote-favor-every-war-durin/

Votes for wars
Bosnia War, 1998. This measure was for removing military forces after they were already there. It failed, but Sanders voted against it. So he voted in favor of staying. He joined most Democrats in voting against it, effectively supporting President Bill Clinton, a Democrat.

Kosovo War, 1999. Sanders voted yes on this measure to authorize the war, which failed in the House. Here, too, Sanders joined most Democrats in voting to back the use of force by Clinton.

Post-9/11 authorization for the use of military force, 2001: Sanders voted in favor. Only one House member, Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., voted against the measure.

Sanders is an opportunist. Did you never notice how quickly he would cuck out and concede the candidacy to whatever shill the DNC picked? He's a pussy and a grifter. Typical jew.

[Anonymous No.16288314]

>>16287381
only time libtards have ever cared about the constitution

[Anonymous No.16288322]

>>16288018
Hitler

[Anonymous No.16288331]

>>16288307
And compare his record to the record and rhetoric of others.

>Did you never notice how quickly he would cuck out and concede the candidacy to whatever shill the DNC picked?
What is he realistically supposed to do? He clearly prefers the lesser evil. It's not the idealist choice obviously but just shows that he is pretty pragmatic.

[Anonymous No.16288345]

>>16287285
Dems lament suppression, but they don't offer solutions to either solution or potential corruption.

Think about this: India, with both a billion people AND a caste system, can have a functional voter ID system. Certain Democrats believe "suppressed" voters are too stupid to figure out how to get a voter ID; thus, it can never be implemented.

There will ALWAYS be lamentations of suppressed voters and fraud, etc. when the outcome is undesired.

[Anonymous No.16288346]

>>16288331
>just shows that he is pretty pragmatic.
You're right. He's very good at exploiting retarded college students for donations without actually committing to anything. In fact, he's made his whole career on it. Very pragmatic indeed.

[Anonymous No.16288357]

>>16288346
Also isn't the stuff usually coupled with something else, like the corona bucks being combined with crazy bailouts for the industry?

[Anonymous No.16288360]

>>16288331
>And compare his record to the record and rhetoric of others.
>the only anti war candidate
>who votes for war
right. How's his support for Israel?

[Anonymous No.16288363]

>>16288331
Nah I'm done with Sanders.
He was all talk. Talked a bunch of shit about how we needed a revolution to get rid of these fucking elites gangraping the shit out of this country but apparently he didn't mean it because he didn't think it was worth attacking his "dear friend joe biden"
He wouldn't even put up a fucking fight. From now on I'm with the acceleration lads, at least horrible candidates will force people to wake the fuck up or at least destroy this country quickly.

[Anonymous No.16288366]

Biden is going to win. The people who were so smug about Hillary winning in the previous cycle have now adopted a kind of hysteric paranoia that Trump is going to landslide them and crown himself King of America. These people are usually wrong. A beyond this point Trump doesn't have the same sort of energy as he had the first time around, he hardly followed through on any of his major promises to the point that Boomers have resorted to esoteric divination of shitposts as a cope, and all the rusted on MAGApedes are locked in a rapidly obsoleting mental framework defined largely by the lines drawn in the cultural sand during GamerGate.

[Anonymous No.16288368]

>>16288331
>What is he realistically supposed to do?
Maybe make some efforts to purge to change the outrageously corrupt DNC and Democratic Party in general? Use his huge support to push back on the ghouls that run the DNC? I don't know, maybe do anything besides showing up every four years to collect a big wad of donations and then bow out when push comes to shove? Blumpf might be a kike loving faggot but at least he actually tried to get elected.

[Anonymous No.16288371]

>>16288294
>until, of course, the next republican candidate runs for office and becomes the new Hitler and they reminisce about Trump like they do with Bush and McCain now

Crazy how libtards started worshiping the biggest Republican warmongers just because Drumpf didn’t like them

[Anonymous No.16288378]

>>16288281
>forgetting about Queen Tulsi

>>16288307
>believing Politifact

I’m not even a Sanders voter, but you’ve goon full corporate media deepthroater

[Anonymous No.16288400]

>>16288366
I doubt Biden will win. There is almost no interest in him. Only Republicans vote for someone because they're the candidate. Democrats either like the candidate or sit it out.

[Anonymous No.16288404]

>>16288378
Read my post a little bit closer. There is some subtext which may possibly help you understand the statement I was making about websites like politifact. Its alright, take your time. No rush.

[Anonymous No.16288406]

>>16288360
>How's his support for Israel?
Again, the only realistic candidate who called them out.

>>16288363
>He wouldn't even put up a fucking fight.
He lost pretty early on once the black boomers went for Joe. Cali victory wasn't strong enough either.
>at least horrible candidates will force people to wake the fuck up
Clearly not working.
>at least destroy this country quickly
Probably the best outcome left, though Burger retardation when it comes to climate crisis will fuck up everyone else too.
>>16288366
Eh, doubt it. Donnie's incompetence will be justified with the usual BUT DEM and BUT CHINKS shit. Biden might get the support from sexists that Shillary couldn't get but he has zero momentum. "I'm not Trump" is unlikely to motivate enough people to vote, especially in these times.
>>16288368
>Use his huge support to push back on the ghouls that run the DNC?
How? All he can do is point it out and hope people will vote accordingly. He did the first part. There is only so much someone who isn't a neoliberal shill can do in a country which worships the market.
>>16288378
It's not like she ever had a chance. Zero name recognizion. Sanders and the party shill of choice were the only realistic options for the Dems.

[Anonymous No.16288417]

>>16288406
>might get the support from sexists that Shillary couldn't get
what in the fuck did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.16288424]

>>16288417
Her politics were perfectly appealing for the same neocons who want to suck off Biden now. The problem was her cunt.

[Anonymous No.16288429]

Why is every single American president Hitler?

[Anonymous No.16288436]

>>16288406
>Clearly not working.
You have no idea what you're on about if you don't think people have radicalized hard lately.
First it was the liberals going wild when Trump won, now white people are getting radicalized way way more than they were ever before because of the blatant hypocrisy and media race baiting and the biased coverage of race based crime when whites are the victims.
Bernie Sanders was a pussy in the end. It was a real shame because I genuinely liked him and thought he might be the way out. Now I think the real hope is just outright collapse of the US or real internal conflict, and I just hope enough billionaire and banker fucks get taken out as the country goes down.

[Anonymous No.16288443]

>>16288424
really? that was it? just the vagina? that was the only reason? care to provide some background support for that statement?

[Anonymous No.16288469]

>>16288378
>I’m not even a Sanders voter, but you’ve goon full corporate media deepthroater
I do you have evidence that Sanders didn't vote that way?

[Anonymous No.16288482]

>>16288443
What sort of support would you need to confirm that Burgerstan is a sexist shithole?
>>16288436
>First it was the liberals going wild when Trump won
And doing what? Elect an almost identical neoliberal shill?
>now white people are getting radicalized way way more than they were ever before
And doing what?
There is tons of impotent bitching but zero hints of change even after the country got raped by bat flu and a fresh crisis. Bet after 4 more years of Trump, the liberals will push another neoliberal puppet too.
>I just hope enough billionaire and banker fucks get taken out as the country goes down.
Doubt it. They will be the first on their planes to NZ.

[Anonymous No.16288511]

>>16288436
Did you fall for the smears about Bernie being some sort of radical or revolutionary? He was always a basic bitch centrists with leftist rhetoric stuck in a neoliberal swamp.

[Anonymous No.16288553]

>>16288482
>What sort of support would you need to confirm that Burgerstan is a sexist shithole?
"Some" would be a good start. It's a bold statement to say Hillary was not supported strictly for being a woman. Do you not see how ridiculous it sounds? What, did republicans see her and think "Well, she's a warmongering grifter who is married to the guy we prop up as one of the Big Bads. She has been a life long democrat along with her grifter husband. She's everything we hoped for in a candidate but we hired a private investigator and discovered she's actually a woman. So, we all collectively agree for these reasons and these reasons only, that we don't like her. Scramble the shills."

What more does Burgerstan need to do to no longer be "sexist" (whatever that means)?

[Anonymous No.16288566]

>>16288482
>And doing what?
Patriotards are showing up to peaceful arson riots and getting into huge fights with antifa nigger lovers constantly. They also voted for Blumpf, who at least ran on a platform conducive to White interests (obviously he's more of the same in practice, but his platform actually scared the shit out of the big nosed elites).

[Anonymous No.16288624]

>>16288406
As a right winger, I voted for Sanders man.

All memes aside about him being a cuck, he stood up to globohomo more than anyone else and actually promised important things like healthcare over idpol platitudes.

[Anonymous No.16288631]

>>16287257
I would be absolutely on board with an American Caesar, and I even think it's necessary at this point, but why the fuck should it be Trump? The man is dumb as a brick and only charismatic if you're dumb as a brick too.

[Anonymous No.16288633]

>>16288429
Pal, if Hitler was alive today he’d be calling his opponents Hitler.

[Anonymous No.16288637]

>>16288553
>She's everything we hoped for in a candidate
More of "a somewhat stable choice that won't endanger the economy too much".
>So, we all collectively agree for these reasons and these reasons only, that we don't like her.
It's not like most sexists are even aware of their biases like that. Take the Lincoln Project republicans who are riding Biden's dick now and how the same folks smeared her, when Biden is even slightly left of her. Or the rise of Never Trumpers.
>What more does Burgerstan need to do to no longer be "sexist"
Let's be realistic, at best they can be less sexist like some normal yuro country; take their fellow anglos in UK who don't give too many fucks whether their neoliberal shill is a woman or not, and where basic bodily autonomy isn't constantly up do debate. The current 25% women in congress is an all time high for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.16288645]

>>16288624
He wouldn't touch the sacred cow of immigration (despite claiming that it's a Koch brothers initiative). How is that anti-globohomo? Health care is impossible with infinity immigrant slave labor. Besides, he's a jew. Why would you ever trust him anyway?

[Anonymous No.16288646]

>>16288469
Bosnia and Kosovo were police actions, they were hardly full on wars like Iraq (which Biden supported)

[Anonymous No.16288659]

>>16288624
It's not even that surprising given how a lot of his policies are just common sense and wouldn't be out of place in the right wing of a more balanced country.

[Anonymous No.16288672]

>>16288645
Being a Jew allows him to speak out against Israel without being smeared as an anti-semite though. And he was the only viable candidate who ever did that.

If you're not a rich rightwinger who would profit from taxcuts for billionaires that you or your children would pay for, sucking up some aspects about Sanders for basic healthcare and workers rights sounds sensible.

[Anonymous No.16288682]

>>16288646
If we're going by that standard than Iraq wasn't a "war" either. It's fine if he wants to be more selective with the interventions he supports, buit let's not pretend that makes him meaningfully anti-war. It's like the leftists who want to cry about us abandoning the Kurds when they're such loyal allies when in actuality they just want the American military machine to provide material support to anarchists.

[Anonymous No.16288690]

>>16288637
>It's not like most sexists are even aware of their biases like that.
This is an unfalsfiable hypothesis, and worse, it's not even interesting. I suppose you are not aware of your anti-White and anti-male biases either, right? Prove you aren't biased.

>The current 25% women in congress is an all time high for fucks sake.
How is that sexist? How can you prove that it's strictly due to sexism and for no other reason? Should the demographics of everything be evenly split, 1:1? One woman for every man? What about parenting, shouldn't something as important as parenting and childrearing be one man and one woman as well? And hey, construction worker deaths are disproportionately male too. More women need to die on job sites to end patriarchy, right? Divorces are also initiated mostly by women, and family courts fuck men over consistently. I guess that's the equality you've been fighting for.

>bodily autonomy
Oh, please do elaborate on this one. Yes, I know you're talking about abortion. I just want to see you type it out like it's clever.

I'm starting to suspect you might actually be a woman. Your response to this post should make that issue clear.

>>16288672
>Being a Jew allows him to speak out against Israel without being smeared as an anti-semite though
Yeah, he's a self-hating jew instead. Retard.

[Anonymous No.16288713]

>>16288645
2016 Sanders believed in borders, he cucked for 2020 to appease the Dem Party demands, but I doubt he would go full open borders like a neolib shill.

Also he’s a bigger threat to globalists than Biden or Trump.

[Anonymous No.16288721]

>>16288690
Not that guy, but I'd take a self-hating Jew willing to publicly criticize Israel over a batshit AIPAC evangelical that wants Israel to take over the Middle East and trigger the Rapture.

[Anonymous No.16288725]

>>16288713
>Also he’s a bigger threat to globalists than Biden or Trump.
That I think anyone could agree with. I just don't think it's enough, and I don't think he's got the balls to actually withstand the pressure they would put on him if he were elected president.

[Anonymous No.16288734]

>>16288659
Too bad we can’t even have that in America

[Anonymous No.16288751]

>>16287241
>Can’t wait for Trump to declare emergency powers desu

[Anonymous No.16288793]

>>16288751
snapped a pic of your front yard

[Anonymous No.16288799]

>>16287422
most americans alive today have been inundated with propaganda from the very first day they were alive

[Anonymous No.16288802]

>>16288799
most people*

[Anonymous No.16288803]

>>16288690
>I suppose you are not aware of your anti-White and anti-male biases either, right?
Seems pretty tricky to learn these in a society which worships whiteness and loves males in position of power.
>How can you prove that it's strictly due to sexism and for no other reason?
Are US women that different from women in the Western world or maybe it's rather the society and barriers in US of A that leads to fewer being in position of power. Seems the latter is the more likely call.
>family courts fuck men over consistently. I guess that's the equality you've been fighting for
Actually a good point but it's still usually based on the same sexist ideas which assumes women belong in the house with the kids. So yeah, fixing that is bound to balance the situation in family courts.
>Oh, please do elaborate on this one.
What is there to elaborate? Something that isn't an issue in civilized countries is still up to debate in US of A. Funny enough, mostly debated by men too. Wouldn't it be comical if a female majority in congress would decide on mandatory circumcision and some other sort of mutilation of boys?
>I'm starting to suspect you might actually be a woman.
So a baseless assumption that has zero connection to the discussion. Now pray tell, how my gender would even matter … unless you're agreeing in a roundabout way that in a sexist society, it's actually a big deal.

[Anonymous No.16288811]

>>16288725
Wouldn't it be still be the lesser evil? At least there is a chance he would try to fight it. With Biden and Trump sucking up to billionaires and Israel is guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.16288826]

>>16288802
Not nearly to such a level. Conspiracies were always a big part of Burger culture, even before Boomerbook created bubbles to make the shit explode. Normally it's more common in third world shitholes.

[Anonymous No.16288830]

>>16288436
>Now I think the real hope is just outright collapse of the US or real internal conflict, and I just hope enough billionaire and banker fucks get taken out as the country goes down.
If we go down and they get away we deserve to get erased from the history books.

[Anonymous No.16288831]

>>16288793
BASED.

[Anonymous No.16288839]

>>16288725
A man who tries to fight is better than one who is part of that system.

[Anonymous No.16288843]

>>16288811
Trump is the lesser evil as the accelerationist choice. All the kvetching over his re-election might destabilize the country.

[Anonymous No.16288872]

>>16288803
>Seems pretty tricky to learn these in a society which worships whiteness and loves males in position of power.
White men ended slavery all over the world, White men gave women the vote, White men created the Civil Rights acts, White men ended segregation (at gunpoint), White men fought, bled, and died to set blacks in America free and allow women to flood the labor force and depress wages. White men created child support programs and White men allowed women to initiate divorce.

If women wanted power, they've had 10,000 years of civilization to take it. How do you know that women generally just don't want power? Outliers don't prove anything btw. Any power women have is because White men gave it to them and work hard to make sure they keep it. Is this not necessarily true by your own axiom, that society is sexist and gatekeeps women from holding power (apparently for no reason)?

>>16288826
Why is that not indicative of people in Europe being more credulous and more willing to accept at face value what they are told to believe?

[Anonymous No.16288874]

>>16288843
If it was the case, he'd be dragged out of the WH and hanged after his incompetence murdered 100k Burgers. Instead it's going straight to 200k and the biggest reaction outside of angry opinion pieces are tweets.

[Anonymous No.16288879]

>>16288839
That's what I mean, he doesn't fight. He didn't fight Clinton and he didn't fight Biden. He's a pussy.

>>16288874
>murdered 100k Burgers.
I understand you are using hyperbole but it tends to poison anything serious you say when you put it next to alarmist retardation like this.

[Anonymous No.16288883]

When considering whom you might vote for this November please consider this friendly guide:

Simply move from question to question, if you encounter a question to which the answer is "yes" DO NOT vote for the candidate and move on to the next

>Does the candidate hold fundamental values opposed to my own
>Does the candidate have a track record of acting against my interests
>Does the candidate routinely lie about things that matter
>Is the candidate a woman
>Is the candidate gay
>Is the candidate a subhuman monkey-ape hybrid nigger
>Is the candidate an insectoid chink
>Would the candidate sell my soul to put a few dollars in his pocket

Hope this helps

[Anonymous No.16288909]

>>16288872
>Outliers don't prove anything btw.
How many would it take to make it a rule? Besides in the 10k years there were more than a few women who took power and navigated around tons of hurdles to achieve it. And for some reason there are more and more of them, but the trend skips one Western country.

[Anonymous No.16288919]

>>16288879
Can one really discuss accelerationism seriously? It's such an infantile idea from basically any angle.

[Anonymous No.16288925]

>>16288803
>>16288872
Oh, I forgot to mention, the elites of the Whiteness and male power worshiping society allowed the rhetoric you are unthinkingly spouting to flourish among the universities and so spread to corporate HR departments, the public schools, and the rest of the government itself. Your entirely nonthreatening ideology, which was taught to you by powerful institutions directly or indirectly, and which would be totally unchallenged by any of those powerful institutions, only exists because powerful White men decided you're worth more as a wage suppressant in the labor force and so let's you pretend to have agency and feel like you're in on a literal conspiracy theory.

Why don't you get back to us when your ideology could get you fired and not promoted.

[Anonymous No.16288935]

>>16287221
Dumb broad.
AI already picks the president. Trump is more of a threat to the tech monopoly than a literal brain dead corposhill Biden

[Anonymous No.16288940]

>>16288883
All fine and good but kinda collapses when not voting for anyone leads to someone who is possibly even worse to gain power.

If one candidate has 8x YES and the other 1x, you'd be probably still better off with the latter winning.

[Anonymous No.16288950]

>>16288925
>having a job
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.16288967]

>>16288925
>Why don't you get back to us when your ideology could get you fired and not promoted.
If your ideology gets you fired, it's probably because it doesn't mix well with other people. Just like being smelly. It's not the elites being afraid of what your smell does to their power.

[Anonymous No.16288968]

>>16288940
>when not voting for anyone leads to someone who is possibly even worse to gain power.
This is a nice thought and sounds superficially plausible, but practically speaking, your vote doesn't matter. Maybe in local elections, but national policy is not democratic. There is literally no scientific evidence to prove that it is democratic IN PRACTICE.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B/core-reader

Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politics—which can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralism—offers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented.

A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.

[Anonymous No.16288990]

>>16288967
Maybe that's why women don't get elected despite being the majority in "democratic" countries and being gatekeepers of sexual access. They smell bad.

[Anonymous No.16289114]

>>16288990
>being gatekeepers of sexual access
Lol.
>They smell bad.
More plausible than "nooo, it's not sexism".

[Anonymous No.16289146]

The elites have no more use for Trump. Trump's sole function was to pass the tax breaks and other pro-business laws and deregulations to allow finance capital to complete its economic coup to pick the country's bones clean. Everything else that he did, which they considered a headache, was the necessary cost of doing business. They favor Biden now, who is nearly a zombie, because he will add more stability and change nothing, allowing some semblance of equilibrium to return to American politics after they got what they wanted.

[Anonymous No.16289216]

>>16287381
The American constitution is directly responsible for many of the world's worst problems. I hope it is abolished.

[Anonymous No.16289436]

>>16287381
Well Professor Goldstein told me The Constitution was written by rich, old, white men so it’s not relevant today.

[Anonymous No.16289478]

>>16289436
Based.

[Anonymous No.16289505]

>2020
>he's still clinging on to liberal democracy