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What are the most /lit/ approved universities?

>> No.16283419

>>16283391
University? What, are you royalty? /lit/ is a NEET board.

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>>16283419
NEETs are actually the successors of the old aristocracy, according to my NEET theory of history.

>> No.16283440

universities are dead for /lit/ unless you want to hear banshees screaming about Homer not being trans inclusive and deserves to be burned for it. There is no hope at this point. Burn it down and start over, this time without any jewish influence.

>> No.16283482

>university

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35vY_c6h23I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmwTN2slUhU

>> No.16283527

>>16283391
Universities aren't /lit/

>> No.16283596
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I love how /pol/tards intellectually castrate themselves because they've built this chimera of universities as giant Marxist brainwashing factories where every course is Feminism101.

>> No.16283604

>>16283596
That's a weird thing to love. Have sex.

>> No.16283609

>>16283596
This. I studied lit in California and in Europe. Even in California the /lit/ classes were nothing like how NEETs imagine. An entire semester on William Blake without any mention of feminism. Granted other classes were somewhat infused with these discourses, but no one was obliged to participate or include them in their own work. Not going to university is a giant cope. If you're a poorfag living in America I can understand otherwise you have no excuse.

>> No.16283635

>>16283609
Where did you go? I unironically majored in English at a big UC and it was predominantly marxist, feminist, etc "deconstructions" of literature. It was incredibly boring discussing the same inane bullshit across every class.

That said, some of the old guard were still around. There was a class all on Joyce, one on Irish lit, one on Chaucer, etc. All in all, however, all of the younger professors (and my cohorots) were into the former.

Whatever. Law school has been ok so far.

>> No.16283639

>>16283596
More that they are swamped in mediocre wealthy children on ADHD meds and SSRIs

>> No.16283640

>>16283635
You studied English and now are studying your second major?

>> No.16283642

>>16283609
At my california university, the literature major no longer requires Shakespeare. I spoke to a student, and she hadn't read any works by him. She was instead reading some black woman on critique. She was a senior

>> No.16283647

>>16283609
Euro here. Nothing in the coursework but literally everywhere outside and around campus. Even faculty would spam me with shitty propaganda.

>> No.16283659

>>16283642
Your average lit major now reads more Audre Lorde than Shakespeare, are you surprised?

>> No.16283675

>>16283635
Occidental College. They offered a great many classes that emphasized feminism, poststructuralism, post-colonialism etc. But there are other classes. And it is still worth learning about post-structuralism. If you don't see any value in learning the basis, logic and methods of deconstruction you aren't really interested in inquiry. That said, I picked some of it up and decided to focus on other things. My college also had a Critical Theory and Social Justice major which helps to insulate /lit/.
>>16283647
At my Euro university that wasn't really the case. I had a really good Marxian professor who let you write about whatever. I certainly never got political emails from faculty. I hardly got any at all. I can't say whether its a cultural/continental thing or a related to the difference between bachelor and master level, but I found the students were much less engaged with each other. But the few friends I made were a Japanophile uninterested in anything European after 1850, a German romantic spergette, and a few modernists. Some of them were quite liberal politically but uninterested in putting Frankfurt school methodologies into everything.

>> No.16283694

>>16283609
>If you're a poorfag living in America I can understand otherwise you have no excuse.
if you're a poorfag living in america you have less of an excuse because you'll be 0 EFC on the FAFSA and thus allowed pell grants while going to community college FOR FREE, which will at least pay for your 3rd year at a state uni if you dont spend it all on dumb shit

>> No.16283698

>>16283391
Oxford and Cambridge. Don't even bother with American ones.

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>>16283391

>> No.16283727

For me, it's Prager U.

>> No.16283733

>>16283640
Law is a graduate degree in the US. You can study anything in undergrad then apply

>> No.16283735 [DELETED] 

>>16283609
I'm doing geography (stem) because I can study literature in my free time. You have to be a fool to waste your time and money on a lit degree

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>>16283391

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>>16283391
Only for classics though

>> No.16283759

>>16283735
If you only want to do it in your free time, sure. But if you want to make a career as a researcher or academic it is essential. Money is of little concern for me (because I was born into it) so that point doesn't apply. Looking back and looking forward, I don't feel I've wasted anything.

>> No.16283761

>>16283596
This. While you were complaning about how universities are being infiltrated by postmodern neo-marxists I was learning Greek and reading Homer with the help of amazing professors.

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I went to community college and then dropped out after the first semester because I’m bipolar, autistic (diagnosed) and have extremely high levels of social anxiety. I’m probably just going to get on autismbux and read what I enjoy until I die. It’s nice to see other NEETs shitting on university, though.

>> No.16283858

School is not a place for intelligent people.

>> No.16283871

>>16283858
Please expand

>> No.16283994

>>16283871
rick and morty idiout

>> No.16284166

>>16283727
fuck NeoCons

>> No.16284168

>>16283391
Oxford
Cambridge
UCL (because they have Jeremy Bentham's dead body sitting in the cloisters)

>> No.16284169

>>16283391
Is there a uni were I don't have to cut my dick off to graduate

>> No.16284184

>>16283482
>healthy, disciplined, friendly, clean, intelligent kids living life attending one of the most prestigious institutions in the world
I don't see what's wrong with this. They are clearly superior to working class scum.

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>>16283675
>If you don't see any value in learning the basis, logic and methods of deconstruction you aren't really interested in inquiry

>> No.16284828
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Heidelberg, of course

>> No.16284850

>>16283482
That first lass could definitely suffocate me with her butthole!

>> No.16285046

Definitely Oxford, Cambridge, UCL and Bologna.
American ones are a joke in comparison.

>> No.16285068

>>16283431
>NEET theory of history
Do tell!

>> No.16285073

The Big University of Reddit.

>> No.16285079

>>16283698
Oxfordchad here, absolutely this. American and 20th century unis are shit and full of cringy liberals and upper-middle-class parvenus. If your school hasn't had a well-known pre-1900 writer as a student, it has no business educating you about it.

>> No.16285092

>>16283596
More university for us, I guess

>> No.16285219

>>16283718
based krakowiak

>> No.16285435

>>16283694
There are also state-specific programs like the HOPE and Zell Miller scholarships which are awarded for a high school GPA of 3.0+ and 3.7+ respectively, and pay $3k-4k per semester for the former or your entire tuition for the latter, and you can have both at once.
>>16285046
>>16285079
Do you have any in-person experience or are you talking out of your ass?

>> No.16285928

any worthwile universities out of europe/the us?

>> No.16285949

>>16285928
Singapore, Tokyo

>> No.16286372

>>16283391
Ohio University

>> No.16286421

>>16283596
word

>> No.16286436

>>16283727
at least be a fascist anon. Can't even imagine being a conservative these days. Have some self-respect

>> No.16286481

>>16283391
Colgate

>> No.16287469

bump

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>>16284184

>> No.16287937

>>16283391
Trump Uni

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Obviously the school I went to.

>> No.16288002

>>16283596
You say intellectually castrate as if people coming out of college are any less braindead than anyone else on the street. Only difference is they wasted hours of their lives studying something in the least intellectually stimulating way possible and a piece of paper saying they’re qualified. I dont think being a NEET is all that good either but college, in and out of the US, is ridiculed for a reason

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>>16283391
Maricopa Community Colleges

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>>16288028
Based incarceral autodidact

>> No.16288075

Are there any /lit/ approved universities in Canada?

>> No.16288107

>>16288075
As long as the university is within the top 100 universities in the world its /lit/ approved.

>> No.16288119

>>16288028
But which one? CGCC>MCC

>> No.16288175
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>>16285068
Excerpts from The NEET Manifesto (WIP)
>All meaningful developments in society have as their foundation freedom from labour. Our earliest ancestors—who does not properly deserve to be called ‘Man’—lived only for his subsistence; in the bloody slough of nature all struggled only for his next meal, trapped in a cycle of prey and predation; a life of impermanence, a perpetual present, where nothing lasting could be made. But from this chaotic period arose, as if by divine providence, the invention that would raise man from beast and lay the foundation of the gradual, glacial emancipation of mankind—agriculture. These earliest farmers barely lived better than their bestial forebears, but they were capable of some permanence—to reach and claw at the future, and heave, if only a little, of his work there. So the first act of defiance of man against time. These early men are our Prometheus: who, willing to have his liver pecked out by a thousand back-breaking days, passed us a most treasured gift: the possibility of freedom from necessity. Through ingenuity and craft, little by little, they improved their yields; now a little seed saved, now a bountiful harvest, now an extra row tilled, each time eking out a little more from the jealous clutch of nature. From this process a miracle occurred, the greatest miracle of all humanity: Enough was produced so that one was able to live off the labour of another, without the need to labour himself. This marked the end of an epoch, and the beginning of another—the invention of the division of labour. So exploded human development, where those freed from direct subsistence could explore the new summits of the human mind. In metallurgy, in poetry, in religious rites, in astronomy, mathematics, geometry, philosophy, science—all first required liberation from subsistence labour.
>History is divided between two groups: those who worked for their subsistence, and those who subsisted on the work of others.
The Brahmin of India, the Buddhist Bikkhu, the Rabbi, Priest and Imam—all spiritual leaders are freed from labour and employment, respected by all, to pursue the highest spiritual and intellectual pursuits. All espouse forsaking the path of greed as required for salvation. The medicant a symbol of the nobility of his position.
>Aristocrats and Nobles, elevated above subsistence by the labour of others, shared this gift with the artistic class through systems of patronage, bequeathing the world with the treasures of the human spirit.

>> No.16288181

>>16288175
>All wage labour is subsistence labour. All wage labour is slavery. The slave, the peasant, the serf, and now the wage labourer, all gave their life so the benefactor of their labour may live. The original sin of Calvin and Luther would break this symbiotic relationship, where labour served only to expand labour, forcing all into bondage. The slave cum wage labourer labours for his subsistence; the bourgeoisie, possessed by the spirit of capitalism, labours hollowly for a creed long dead. Each is a cog powering a pointless machine. Each creates nothing but his own denial.
>The wage labourer is fascinated by his baubles and trinkets, living under the illusion that resting his tired and broken mind in front of bread and circus is the highest attainment; Unable to ever buy his freedom, he is blameless. The merchant, the company owner, the landlord and speculator, the politician and bureaucrat, the modern descendants of the aristocrats of old: This class I charge with dereliction of duty. They waste the flame passed to them by the groaning Prometheus, and use it only to widen the net of labour, enslaving ever more and catching themselves in the process.
>But in this heaving dynamo there has emerged a new successor to aristocrats of old. The product of the subsistence labourer is sought by all. This labour, sweeter than the sweetest ambrosia, is fought for bitterly; the business man, the bureaucrat, the politician, each claw and fight to suckle on this primordial teet. But in their fight, they squander its gift. Some of this life-giving force finds its way down from this profligate feast to the institution of welfare, and from welfare into the hands of this new class. Not borne of power, or wealth; not of royalty nor buoyed by trust funds; free from the chains of the world, free from expectation, free from the consuming struggles for material gain. This unlikely new bearer of the torch of humanity:
>The NEET.

>> No.16288235

Deep Springs College

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>>16288175
>>16288181
I'm fucking dying. This is high art right here.

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>>16288175
>>16288181

>> No.16288754

>>16288107
Isn't that most first-world universities?

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>>16288107
>33rd in the U.S.
>112th globally
Noooooo I was so close to being /lit/. It's over now

>> No.16288819

>>16288781
>>33rd in the U.S.
>>112th globally
How...?
My uni is ranked 40th in America and ranked 51th in best universities globally.

>> No.16288858

>>16283596
this

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>>16288819
It really depends on what website you search with. I don't know whats the most reliable measurement, but according to timeshighereducation.com its 36th in the US and 48th based on world reputation in 2019. In any regard, I wouldn't consider it /lit/ because its aesthetically far too modern and spread out. Exceptionally good if you're going there for STEM though, but it just doesn't carry that same "old boys club" prestige.

>> No.16289013

>>16288960
>timeshighereducation.com
On this website my Uni is 54th World Ranking and 44th US ranking. World reputation is 81-90. My uni's in the middle of boston but it was founded in the 1800's so some of the buldings look aesthetically old and some look new. It isn't spread out though, their isn't really much space in Boston. My uni doesn't really carry an old boys club prestige though, it's even worse considering Harvard is across the river. Makes me feel really bad.

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>>16289013
Forgot to post the seal.

>> No.16289027

>>16288028
>merry coper

>> No.16289033

>>16289013
>Across the river from Harvard
I know that feel all too well anon. Davis is perpetually in the shadow of Berkeley aka Cal, the original University of California. But recently Berkeley has been eating itself alive with identity politics while Davis has largely avoided it thanks to a large core of Asian STEM students who ain't having any of it. At least I can happily go to my university campus as a white male and not be assaulted for it.

>> No.16289045

>>16289033
Berkeleybro here, I used to lurk 4chan while chilling in Moffitt library. I used to wonder if anyone would see my screen and give me shit for it but no one seemed to notice/care

>> No.16289061

>>16289045
Well I wish you good luck out there. Of the few times I went to Berkeley to visit some friends, I hated it. So many homeless everywhere, getting accosted on the streets to buy tie dye shirts. The university campus is nice, and I loved the garden on top of the hill, but the rest of city and having to live there would probably have led me to lose it.

>> No.16289069

>>16288107
which ranking is the best

>> No.16289075

>>16289069
I don't know none of this really matters if we're being honest.

>> No.16289081

>>16289061
I’m out now (currently about to start my masters, which is being taught remotely, from the comfort of my bedroom at my parents’ house), but I definitely felt like I was “in it but not of it” during my time there. People who I could relate to were few and far between.

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>>16289069
Youth Incorporated, an Indian magazine literally made for rich Indian parents that want to send their children to top schools. Their way of measuring quality is pretty good as well.

https://youthincmag.com/global-university-rankings-2019

>> No.16289160

>>16289075
Yeah all that matters is what you do with the resources they give you. Most elite school graduates don't go on to do anything interesting, but go on to reinforce the current system from some lofty position in government, finance, tech industry, etc.. If you really care about your passion you don't need to be at Harvard or Cambridge, and if you work hard you could end up there later on anyways.

>> No.16289170

>>16289089
i like how the second half of the ranking gets way more faded as if their child is literally fading out of existence as they look at it

>> No.16289221

>>16289089
Alternatively, you can also think of the best uni as the one that will actually give you a job because of its reputation with employers. Top 30 being amazing and top 50 being great.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/best-universities/best-universities-graduate-jobs-global-university-employability-ranking

>> No.16289454

>>16288175
Are you really writing a NEET manifesto anon?

>> No.16289486

>>16283391
Any answer besides St John's is incorrect.

>> No.16289571
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Obviously Tulane

>> No.16289933

>>16283391
Are Universities like LSE and Sciences Po /lit/?

>> No.16289970

>>16288175
>>16288181
Unironically insanely based anon. Make this shit happen

>> No.16290367

>>16289089
>t. Rashsaar Pajeet

>> No.16290736

>>16285046
UCL?

>> No.16290818

>>16283596

This isn't really the point although people always make it about this
The thing you gotta understand is that outside the absolute most prestigious most selective institutions it's all the same shit and even then it's still mostly the same shit
I mean if you do get brainwashed in University then it has perhaps accidentally served a more remarkable function than it's typical state of operation as mundane diploma printing factory

>> No.16291110

>>16290736
University College London

>> No.16291124

>>16288175
>>16288181
I would pay money for a hardcover of the completed version. Based

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>>16288315
>>16288504
>>16289454
>>16289970
>>16291124
Some further excerpts.
>Come the advent of the public company, and the fruits of labour is divided a million-fold, it’s precious bounty ground down and scattered in the wind.
>The life of a subsistence labourer is marked by fear and anxiety. They chew and quiver, mind in whirling motion, fretting over their next paycheck, their rent, their precious contracts and connections. Spent by the days labour, they sit drained in front of their televisions, vicariously living lives they are denied. Bed at ten o’clock, alarm at six; at eight they leave for work; at nine they arrive; from nine to five they work, taking a break to sustain their bodily function at twelve thirty; from five to six they travel home; prepare and eat dinner at seven; from seven to ten they rest their drained body and mind in front of mindless entertainment; bed at ten o’clock, alarm at six. The wage labourer lives a life stricter than the monk at the monastery, but thinks himself in an abundance of freedom. Freedom to choose his slave ship, which collar he wears, the colour of his chains—that is the freedom of the wage labourer. Though unseen, the heavy-hand of the market grips man by the nape, forcing him to labour cradle to grave; a buzzing bee in a grumbling hive with no queen.
>The life of a NEET is marked by freedom and happiness. He lives a humble life in the dignity of poverty, wanting for nothing and asking for nothing. Free to rise and rest at any hour, to portion his time however he pleases. In his repose he applies himself to his passions and interests. But it is a mistake to think him idle. The NEET labours, but not for wages; the NEET labours, but not for subsistence; the NEET labours, but his labour is free. Free to pursue whatever he pleases, free to master any subject no matter its esteem—it needs only have value to him. It is this freedom which affords him a cultivation of character all his own, the pursuit of topics on the frontiers of human understanding. In answering only to his desires, he answers only the limits of his imagination.
>It takes but one-percent of the workforce to feed the other ninety-nine. Machines dance and whirl in tireless procession, freeing further man from manufacture. Beeping computers and simple AI solve sums and order spreadsheets without need of an operator. These Tripods of Hephaestus service man’s every whim, yet he is still held in bondage by labour; never before has society been so capable of liberation, yet so unwilling. Man lives in the midst of plenty, but still cannot share alike the bounties of nature—the fruit of humanity hangs rotting on the vine.

>> No.16291453

>>16291449
>Yet in the presence of the NEET the wage labourer snarls and bites, spewing bile black and yellow. A parasite! A freeloader! A rent-seeker! A loser! A leaner! A waste of air! A bludger! — vile slaves who smile mockingly in the presence of freedom.
>Not in Employment, Education, or Trades. This is the label they give the NEET. But it is a name conjured by the bewildered, as witnessing an apparition. The wage labourer is confused at his presence, at a loss how to comprehend him. Ask a man who he is, and he will answer you thusly: First he will say his name, then his homeland, and finally he will state his occupation. He is a prisoner defined by his sentence to hard-labour. Look too at our very names! Smith, Baker, Taylor, Clark; so entrenched is this ideology that it scores our very identity, a brand on prized cattle. What then of man not defined by his yoke? By the whip of his master? foreign is the idea of freedom from such labour, so in his confusion the wage labourer can only define the NEET by its absence—he cannot grasp what he is, only what he is not.
>What is to be done? only one thing: the abolishment of wage labour. We stand united in this revolution against work, against necessity; we stand united in the eventual emancipation of mankind. But we recognise that such emancipation must come slowly. Foremost those existing NEETs must be protected from the misguided predations of the government, who do not realise their value; the flame of humanity cannot be allowed to be extinguished before it has a change to spread.

>> No.16291767

Deep Springs College.
Or Bowdoin.

>> No.16291769

Is there even a small chance of getting in such kind of universities discussed above without any substantial amount of money?

>> No.16291802

>>16291769
Do you live in the US?

>> No.16292019

>>16291769
Scholarships and grants.

>> No.16292042

>>16291769
with loans yeah. but if you're going that route you may as well wait to do that with a graduate degree

>> No.16292218

>>16291769
Jagiellonian University is free and based

>> No.16292383

>>16291802
No. I live in a third world country.

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>>16283391
No need for university. Start with the Greeks, then complete the top 100 list and then you can start with what you are interested in.
If I could go back in time I would go to a university in the gulf and get rich easy and quick.

>>16283596
They do castrate themselves but in my experience (top Euro uni) you could circumvent most of them but even then every 3rd course had at least 10% feminism inside and if the teachers didn't discuss it some student (usually female or a male white knight) would force the rest of the course to do so.

>>16289089
>>16288107
>>16289013
People overestimate university rankings and they set the wrong criteria when ranking them for soon-to-be students.
The recruiter based ones are only important if you know that the school name is going to matter a lot when applying for a job. Usually these are jobs with lots of competition and even then it matters only RIGHT AFTER graduating.
Two years later and it matters little, 5 years later and it doesn't matter at all.
The pajeet list is giving student satisfaction an influence of 10% - coupled with finances.
For an Indian it would be much more important to know, whether there was anti-Indian bias among the students, the teachers or the University. Just an example.
Impact, research quality and famous professors matter very little in an undergrad degree and later only if one wants to do enter an academic career after a graduate degree.

It does make a difference where you went to University, you will meet different people and have different experiences and people perceive you differently. However unless you desperately want to become an investment banker or computer engineer at FANG, think twice. Based on bad advice from seniors I thought that the ranking would matter a lot and when discussing that topics with my peers it turns out that it didn't matter.

>>16289933
I have met a fair amount of students from Sciences Po. Not bad people but not very impressive, interesting or well read.

>> No.16293537

>>16283391
Is Eberhard Karls Uni in germany /pol/ approved?

>> No.16293744

>>16293537
It used to be very green-leaning when I was a student there.
Politics back then were either:
>green, rather interested in Hippies than in leftist stuff
>leftist just like you can find them in any humanities or social science department
>liberal/centrist/I'm not interested in politics: let's party
>rightwing fraternities (which are rather different from burger fraternities)
So when you enter the Burschenschaften and some rightwing Verbindungen you will be /pol/-approved.

>> No.16293811
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>>16283391
Is this place /lit/?

>> No.16293853

>>16293811
Isn't this one of the pozzed universities in the country

>> No.16293878

>>16289933
Sciences Po aka la pire des grandes écoles françaises

>> No.16293911

>>16293744
How did you make it into such a perfect position? I hope so dearly to be accepted there

>> No.16293974

what matters is your license number matricule at university so many are fraud hog washers disguised hedge funds backed by pension retirement planners

>> No.16294208

>>16293911
I'm German and there were, just as now, courses where it was rather easy to get into:
https://uni-tuebingen.de/index.php?eID=tx_securedownloads&p=103808&u=0&g=0&t=1599424536&hash=e05b1760fcf0020d61dbf6ae21c7687925c15269&file=/fileadmin/Uni_Tuebingen/Studium/BewerbungZul/Dokumente/Bewerbung/Zulassungsergebnis_1.FS_20192_mit_WZ_und_Anhang.pdf
What do you want to study?
It's one of the better universities in Germany for sure and I would recommend it if one wanted to study in Germany. Don't feel sad if you don't get in, you can have the same in: Heidelberg, Göttingen, Würzburg, Greifswald, etc. - any city with an old university, at least 10k students and less than 200k citizens. You will meet the same kind of people (well more people from Baden-Württemberg - I never liked that country desu and is one of the worse aspects in Tübingen) as in any other university, you will learn the same and the people are going to talk about the same video games, netflix shows, trump tweets and pop culture shit as anywhere else in any German university. You will find more middle-upper-class people there and they were 'better' than in other universities, I have to admit that.
I just wanted to say: you will still have bad days and realise, that there is little to do besides learning, drinking alcohol, having the same discussions with the same kind of people who are doing the same stuff and grinding on the internet. It looks fun and is fun, but it's a bit mindless and for anything else you have to drive to Stuttgart, which is shit btw. It gets old after 12 months.

I'm >>16293132 btw. I forgot: sometimes there are cliques among people who went to the same University and than can help a lot, I was really surprised. But if you are hundreds of kilometers away from your university the chances that you will enter such a clique just by entering the company are not so big.

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>Ivy League Tier:
Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Yale, Cornell, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth

>Other /lit/ US Tier:
Vanderbilt, Purdue, Boston, Rice, Georgetown, Stony Brook, plus countless smaller private colleges. Generic state universities or engineering-focused private universities not allowed.

>UK Tier:
Oxford, Cambridge, Edinburgh, UCL, ICL, KCL, St Andrews

>Holy Roman Empire Tier:
Heidelberg, Bonn, Freiburg, Goettingen, Muenster, Tuebingen, Charles University of Prague, Vienna

>Top Unis in Small Euro Countries Tier:
Trinity College Dublin, University of Copenhagen, University of Zurich, Lund University, University of Basel, University of Amsterdam, Leiden University, College of Europe (depends)

>French Tier
University of Paris (and descendants), University of Toulouse, ENS (depends), University of Grenoble, Strasbourg

>Renaissance Tier
Bologna, La Sapienza Rome, Milan, Pisa, Padua

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>>16288175

>> No.16294331

>>16294315
>ENS (depends)

Why?

Also how do you know so much about eueopean universities

>> No.16294430

>>16291453
Glorious

>> No.16294435

>>16288175
>>16288181
You know this is just automated luxury post-scarcity humanist Marxism right?

>> No.16294457

>>16288175
>>16288181
How will collegecucks ever recover?

>> No.16294479

>>16294315
>EU Business Tier
Insead, HEC, IE University, London Business School, Bocconi.

>> No.16294905

>>16294331
He doesn't. I'm pretty sure he literally just looked up the rankings on some website lmao.

I'm attending Vienna university and its fucking shit.

>> No.16294953

>>16283391
Not that UChicago. I’m doing my graduate degree here, and everyone is either a middlebrow New Yorker reader, a LARPing “Marxist” who doesn’t realize he himself is petit-bourgeoise, or a moronic neocon. No new or novel ideas. No soul. The classes aren’t even particularly good. I’ve become suicidal after a year, and I don’t think I can handle another three. Do yourself a favor and avoid the Ivy League. The only tangible benefit is having a brand to flex. It’s the Supreme of education.

>> No.16294988

>>16294479

>business tier

connections

>> No.16295127

>>16283609
>no excuse to waste years of your life on a useless degree
yeah, you don't have to pay rent, food etc right?

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>>16288175
>>16288181
>>16291449
>>16291453
I appreciated the references anon.

>> No.16295281

>>16294208
Lol I'm german too, why do we converse in english? Anyways, it's more of a personal thing for me, I want to study philosophy under the wing of Hegel and Hölderlin, the drive to get there kinda feels like wanting to compete with them, I wasted my youth shitting on school to read, so my future university should deliver a challenging experience.

>> No.16295353

>>16291769
Scholarships/legacy. If your dad got in, you can probably get in too. If not, you can get a scholarship or other organization to help you in.

>> No.16295364

>>16294457
>He's not a scholarshipchad
From free college straight to NEETbux, the way of the true pjilosopher

>> No.16295895

>>16295364
From NET to NEET

>> No.16296462

>>16289045
If you're a berkelybro please add me on Discord TzarOfRussia #3937. I'm just a freshman but I want to meet some people

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>>16295895
>mfw I pay for college through loans I shall never repay and through grants that will never bear fruit

>> No.16296562

>>16288175
>>16288181
I like it

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>>16294331
>Also how do you know so much about eueopean universities
he doesn't. if i had to hazard a guess this was just a copypasta. even manchester is higher on world rankings than kcl/edinburgh/standrews, and even brown and dartmouth. people's perceptions of unis are skewed by the media and retarded domestic rankings like US News Weekly and UK League Tables and The Teaching Framework Excellence

>> No.16296608

>>16293811
>doesn't give a shit about rankings
>only draws passionate people
>gives undergrads keys to a nuclear reactor
>poor people can't afford it
probably the most based school in the U.S., but the Humanities 110 change was pretty cringe desu

>> No.16296631

>>16291449
>>16291453
Based. Make a thread when you finish this project, anon.

>> No.16296655

>>16296462
>>16289045
Not him, but another Berkeleybro here. I don't use Discord though unfortunately.

>> No.16296659

>>16294953
Isn't it the most *quirky* top tier school?

>> No.16296667

>>16288002
>dialogue with experts in a field
>the least intellectually stimulating way
I hope you're baiting anon, but these days you can never tell...

>> No.16296700

>>16293811
it's the most drug-friendly liberal arts school

>> No.16296704

>>16296659
it's where fun comes to die

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>tfw under-ranked because it's in Iowa

>> No.16296712

>>16296655
email me at TsarOfRussia@yahoo.com

>> No.16296804

>>16289571
Of course /lit/ is the only board i find tulanefags on. My favorite jewish learning environment, sadly this is my last year :(((

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>>16288181
>>16288175

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I'm going to study abroad, in Navarre. I'm a central american from a wealthy, old-blood family that has long had a tradition of studying in Europe.
I wanted Spain for my first degree, pursuing the master's in Germany (Heidelberg awaits).

I feel Navarre is the perfect compromise between being a storied and prestigious institution, while also being elite and good for connections.
I am to study diplomacy there, with a year somewhere in southern France to better my command of their language. Chocolatine.

Are my choices sufficiently lit?

>> No.16297007

>>16288175
where can i read new additions to the manifesto?

>> No.16297066

>>16296659
The opposite --- it's the birthplace of neoliberalism, and half the campus is business & econ students. I'm in a hard science program, and even the advanced classes are overrun with MBAs. It's a special kind of hell.

>> No.16297135

>>16289486
Santa Fe or Baltimore?

>> No.16297229

>>16297066
I got accepted to the poli sci graduate program there but I didn't go cause at heart I'm an autistic poltard NEET. I guess if I had gone I'd have had to hide my extremism and gotten my soul crushed by high-functioning normalfags. Anyways I make 18 an hour now and live with my parents so I guess the joke's on me

>> No.16297245

>>16297135
It’s in Annapolis

>> No.16297315

>>16295268
marx, weber, what else?

>> No.16297376

>>16288028
>tfw am also MCCD fag
Huh. I sorta got the feeling everyone here secretly browsed 4chan - especially at CGCC.

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>>16283391
>be me, go to mediocre British university to get a degree I don't even need
>as soon as I graduate start my own business in a completely unrelated area
>several years later I'm making £10k a month working 6 hours a day from home
>spend the remainder of my day reading literature
>have friends who went to prestigious universities that have to commute over an hour each way to work making a fraction of what I make
At least they have a nicer degree certificate though.

>> No.16297860

>>16296943
you'll fit in well in France you wank

>> No.16297906

>>16297315
Nietzche, in third post, I think

>> No.16297936

I'm in the Faculty of Law at the University of Copenhagen. It's nice.

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>>16296583
>world rankings
Rankings don't determine /lit/ approved universities. MIT and Berkeley are top 10 in most rankings, yet they're modern universities filled with autistic Asian engineers and mindless commies. And Manchester is...in Manchester. Which is not a /lit/ approved place. Whereas Edinburgh or St Andrews...the opposite.

>> No.16298197

>>16296943
based. i assume you already speak spanish?

>> No.16298296

>>16296583
>even manchester is higher on world rankings than kcl/edinburgh/standrews
lel which rankings?
I wanna go brag about my bsc

>> No.16298527

>>16298296
QS/THE/ARWU are the only relevant ones. its higher than st andrews on all of them, higher than KCL on 2/3, and higher than edinburgh on 1/3. in fact it's higher than berkeley on QS, which is the one that's heavily based on worldwide academic reputation which is funny given its relatively awful reputation among britbongers even though fucking ernest rutherford laid the foundations for all of nuclear physics there only 100 years ago

the point isn't that manch is great, or bad, i have no idea, it's that his post is totally meaningless. like, what we perceive as academic reputation is so totally warped from the reality of what actually academics see. unless he wants to claim it's just his aesthetic opinion, then it's mostly just a list of "what unis look the coolest when i google them" and that's fine

>> No.16298610

>>16298527
There are some obviously elite universities who's feedback loop consists of top research -> attracting top students, oxbridge harvard, MIT etc. After them it strongly depends on subject, and even subfields of said subject
Now don't mind me, I'm just going to dab on some Warwickfag alumnus I know

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Any other /RussellGroup/ chads here

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>>16297007
boards.4channel.org/lit/
>>16295268
>>16297315
>>16297906
Marx
>ask a man who he is, and he will answer you thusly: First he will say his name, then his homeland, and finally he will state his occupation. He is a prisoner defined by his sentence to hard-labour. Look too at our very names! Smith, Baker, Taylor, Clark; so entrenched is this ideology that it scores our very identity, a brand on prized cattle. What then of man not defined by his yoke? By the whip of his master?
>each man has a particular, exclusive sphere of activity, which is forced upon him and from which he cannot escape. [...] it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic. - The German Ideology
Weber
>the bourgeoisie, possessed by the spirit of capitalism, labours hollowly for a creed long dead
>today the spirit of religious asceticism—whether finally, who knows—has escaped from the cage. [...] the idea of duty in one's calling prowls about in our lives like the ghost of dead religious beliefs. - Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism
Smith
>Though unseen, the heavy-hand of the market grips man by the nape
>He intends only his own gain, and he is, in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was not part of his intention - The Wealth of Nations
Mandeville
>a buzzing bee in a grumbling hive with no queen
>The Grumbling Hive: or, Knaves turn'd Honest - The Fable of the Bees
Aristotle
>Tripods of Hephaestus service man’s every whim
>For if every instrument could accomplish its own work, obeying or anticipating the will of others, like the statues of Daedalus, or the tripods of Hephaestus, [...] if, in like manner, the shuttle would weave and the plectrum touch the lyre without a hand to guide them, chief workmen would not want servants, nor masters slaves. - The Politics
Malthus
>Man lives in the midst of plenty, but still cannot share alike the bounties of nature
>Man cannot live in the midst of plenty. All cannot share alike the bounties of nature. - Essay Concerning the Principle of Population
Rousseau
>vile slaves who smile mockingly in the presence of freedom.
>Base souls have no belief in great men; vile slaves smile in mockery at the name of liberty - Social Contract
Lenin
>What is to be done?
>What is to be done? - What is to be done?

>> No.16298654

>>16298636
I'll be a visiting postgraduate at York in two weeks, and apparently that's in the Russel Group. Does that mean I am now part of the cool boys club? If so, all the losers can suck it.

>> No.16298696

>>16283727

>PragerJu

>> No.16298729

Question for euro doctoral students: How in the fuck does anyone find funding? It seems like unless you're a transgender refugee from South Sudan who has a cure for covid smuggled in their one working kidney, there isn't shit available. Or, if you're Chinese, there are all these sketchy funds set up to pay for Chinese nationals to study in western universities and definitely not to act as espionage hubs. HOW DO YOU GET MONEY.My academics are virtually perfect and still it seems like nothing is available.

>> No.16298744

>>16298636
what percentage of students in the uk aren't at russell groups? it can't be that many can it?

1.8 million undergraduates in the UK, and from this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Group like 430k undergraduates in russell group unis, so roughly 24% of all students in the UK have been to a russell group?

>> No.16298765

>>16298729
>Or, if you're Chinese, there are all these sketchy funds set up to pay for Chinese nationals to study in western universities and definitely not to act as espionage hubs.
this is what i've found. some chinese kid from my uni got into the postgrad course i wanted, and i look him up, and from 10 days after he turned 18 to now he's been churning out well cited co-authored papers from chinese unis he never went to? long before he even went to my uni for his bachelors. chinese students make no sense

>> No.16298774

>>16298765
>coauthored
what subject?

>> No.16298787

>>16298774
control theory

>> No.16298802

>>16295281
hey fren, I'm starting philosophy in Tübingen next semester after dropping my STEMbug education. Can't you just enroll? Philosophy isn't NC-restricted (just hope my intuition was right to take the huge risk and I won't completely shit the bed)

>> No.16298813

>>16298765
chinese papers put on 10+ changs for every paper, it's so they can outqualify any white students on paper

>> No.16298819

>>16295281
>>16298802
and my motivation for choosing Tübingen was the same as yours, the Burse (department of philosophy) is right next to the Hölderlinturm and the Tübinger Stift where Hölderlin, Hegel and Schelling lived.

>> No.16298820

>>16298765
Thats because Chinese students are the eyes and ears of the Chinese government while they are abroad. Not all of them, but enough of them. One Chinese friend I had wouldn't speak around other Chinese students that they didn't know personally for that exact reason. China games the university system to protect their interests abroad and get cheated credentials in the process. Half of the Chinese students in the business program couldn't string two English words together, but somehow all wrote perfectly coherent admissions essays? And all wrote their own dissertations? No fucking way. The schools know all this, but turn a blind eye, because of that sweet overseas tuition they've become addicted to.

>> No.16298880

>>16298820
What's so bizarre is, like, surely there's gotta be some academic work done on that topic if it's that evident - but then again, we can see with covid MSM literally churning out articles like How China Controlled The Coronavirus even though it's numbers don't make sense from any sort of Bayesian standpoint, or even the more "authentic" Time's Can We Believe It's Numbers (which takes a laughably indeterminate position) yet we all just keep shoveling this shit in our mouths about china

>> No.16299089

>>16285079
In my country the only university that fits your criteria is an actual Marxist shithole that had riots every six months. I could have studied there because it’s a free uni, you pass the exam(which isn’t really hard but a lot of people try for it) and that’s it.
The day of the exam I saw the following at the campus:
-actual posters of commie terrorists pasted on their walls
-papers calling for riots and rallies
-bathrooms that had cut out gallons for trash cans.
I fucking hate living in a third world country. I lost my will to study arts and went for businesses. The whole “Dean University of South America” can suck my dick.

>> No.16299130

>>16298654
As it happens, I go to York anon. What are you studying, and have you been to the city before?

>> No.16299147

>>16298197
Of course, I'm a Central American as I've said. I imagine you meant French, which I do but my command is languid at best. >>16297860
This made me smirk - why?