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[Anonymous No.16281089]

What books would I have to read to become modern day Napoleon

[Anonymous No.16281104]

>>16281089
Before he came to power, he was very into literature and poetry. All the arts, actually. He was known to take works he liked from the places he traveled. Just be well read honestly.

[Anonymous No.16281110]

Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.16281145]

>>16281089
Just go and kill the pawnbroker.

[Anonymous No.16281150]

Read Spengler's Decline of the West, specifically the section on Great Men and their cultural relativity -- how people model themselves after figures considered great while failing to realize that it is 9/10 the zeitgeist of one's day that defines a "great" man. Nietzsche also remarks on this in Human, All Too Human, when he observes that the appearance of a great man in history is always followed by a subsequent generation of tawdry copies, or imperfect persona clones who are too unimaginative to pursue 'greatness' as anything other than personality worshippers/understudies.

[Anonymous No.16281154]

>>16281089
Crime and Punishment

[Anonymous No.16281170]

>>16281089
Machiaveli
Anti-Machiavel
and lots of military treatises.
Rhetoric

[Anonymous No.16281179]

>>16281170
Oh, also his biography probably.

>>16281150
>>16281110
Lol, these are people after him giving their insight on the man for their specific worldveiws.. Rather go for te things he read.

[Anonymous No.16281189]

>>16281089
Nappy was a huge reader of the classics. He read widely and if the material was of distinguished quality, indiscriminately. During his time at military academy he read them on his own in addition to his martial studies. Anything having to do with the creating and forging of empires in ancient times fascinated Napoleon. As a teenager he venerated Alexander the Great and modeled his own behavior after him. Two of his favorite writers were Plutarch and Homer. He also avidly read the heady and powerful literature to come out of the Enlightenment such as Rousseau and Voltaire.

According to one source,
>Napoleon’s appetite for reading books continued as he rose in power. In 1798, about to depart on the Egyptian campaign, he gave Bourrienne a list of books he wanted in his camp library. These included works in Sciences and Arts (e.g., Treatise on Fortifications), Geography and Travels (e.g., Cook’s Voyages), History (e.g., Thucydides, Frederick II), Poetry (e.g., Ossian, Tasso, Ariosto), Novels (e.g., Voltaire, Héloïse, Goethe’s Sorrows of Young Werther and 40 volumes of “English novels”), and Politics and Morals (the Bible, the Koran, the Vedas, etc.). (4)

[Anonymous No.16281194]

>>16281150
Does this book talk about all this or are you adding more? I want to learn about great men’s culture relativity and the copies that follow.

[Anonymous No.16281195]

On top of the classics you need to understand modern warfare, politics, economy, industry and science

[Anonymous No.16281235]

>>16281179
Alright, fair. I just think it's important to note that a modern day Napoleon would be someone who, while probably sharing some values and characteristics with the original, also manages to elide/transcend the world's expectations in a way that 'makes waves' for the fabric of his society.

tl;dr try to avoid becoming a caricature of the man himself and treat him like a benchmark for your own great life/accomplishments. If your intent is to actually *be* a faithful copy of Napoleon copy, though, feel free to follow your dream and do it -- I have no right to try and deter you

[Anonymous No.16281241]

>>16281235
>his tl;dr is almost the same lenght as his original statement

[Anonymous No.16281289]

>>16281194
The Nietzsche bit is just a brief epigram he includes in Chapter ~7. The Spengler comments are 1:1 with the remarks that actually appear in the unabrided edition of Decline. He introduces these thoughts in the first chapter (something like "He who is unwilling to...conquer the modern frontier of mathematics and machine...must abandon all hope of making history [in his era]) then continues to allude to them in all of the sections that deal in part with forecasting Western culture's trajectory. The preceding paragraphs in Chapter 1 echo a lot of what Nietzsche says about the "transvaluation of all values", and how that tendency sets the West apart from everywhere else.

There's a *lot* of additional stuff to digest in Spengler, though, not just metaphysical observations about how values are handed down/altered.

[Anonymous No.16281297]

>>16281241
I can't help myself desu

[Anonymous No.16281306]

>>16281235
Yes, but then thats not a new napoleon, but a completely different person. unless you are trying to sift some kind of core transendental greatness that is embodied by Nap and other greats, but then you are talking of greatness, not napoleon.

[Anonymous No.16281344]

>>16281306
>core transcendental greatness that is embodied by Nap
Pretty much what I'm after. Sorry I wasn't more clear about ths. Ayn Rand, as contentious a philosopher a she is, captured this kind of archetypal 'great' human in her sketches of the so-called Prime Mover-- that's the gist of what I had in mind.

[Anonymous No.16281368]

>>16281344
I can understand that. It is an evocative overarching persona.

[Anonymous No.16281407]

>>16281089
*AHEM*

Nothing you read can or will turn you into “Napoleon”. Napoleon isn’t even “Napoleon” You
You don’t want to be Napoleon anyway

[Anonymous No.16281414]

Euclid’s Elements

[Anonymous No.16281450]

>>16281089
What a stupid question, pic related of course

[Anonymous No.16281471]

>>16281407
>>16281407
have sex you russian incel.

u wer just jelly u didint conquer europe and now u tsundere.

>>16281450
gay gay gay gay

[Anonymous No.16281474]

Napoleon is just a glorified war criminal.
T. Tolstoy

[Anonymous No.16281488]

>>16281474
is it much better too wallow in mediocrity?

[Anonymous No.16281490]

>>16281488
He was never great despite everyone around him telling him he was

[Anonymous No.16281505]

>>16281490
IDK looking at the map of europe in 1812 seems pretty great. and isnt 80 percent of greatness esprit de corps and remembrance/public presensce? and seeing as we are talking about him and he is talked about often in general, id say hes bretty great.

Not to mention his historical impact.

[Anonymous No.16281523]

>>16281505
Im mainly memeing about this desu, don’t really know how to feel about Napoleon since I haven’t studied him. If you want another look at him from someone who really despises the notion of great men then read War and Peace.

[Anonymous No.16281550]

>>16281523
I have. and I take it as one specific perspective. I do not think that Great=morally good or something you should necessarily shoot towards. its a label of magnitude.

And Napoleon, regardless of your veiw of him had a massive effect on history as an indivigual.

[nelsy No.16281567]

>>16281089
trex 21st century boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMm0RYovM5U&ab_channel=DylanWhite

[Anonymous No.16282386]

>>16281089
It's already too late for you. As early as 9 years old Napoleon was already enrolled at a military academy and undergoing a rigorous education.

[Anonymous No.16282398]

Memoirs of casanova and other memoirs (search mirrors for prince wiki article) for networking and shit in high society. Also the rational male for dealing with women in the modern world

[Anonymous No.16283548]

>>16282386
Is there any hope for such an individual to rise considering the absolute state of education worldwide? Public education is obviously trash anywhere you go. Private education is pretty trash too most of the time and considering how the rabble hates it so much (at least in my country), wouldn't be surprised public education becomes the only legal option in a few decades. And of course 90% of parents have to problem with letting their kids get turned into absolute mongoloids by youtube so home education isn't an option either.

tl;dr we are doomed

[Anonymous No.16283671]

>>16281089
I wonder if any officer's schools publish reading lists and curricula

[Anonymous No.16283814]

>>16283671

[Anonymous No.16283817]

>>16283548
talk for your own shithole country. Public education is great where I live, especially if you're gifted in some way

[Anonymous No.16283820]

>>16281089
I read a biography on him and he was huge into Rousseau.

[Anonymous No.16283849]

>>16281089
start from an artillery manual

[Anonymous No.16283882]

>>16283817
>Public education is great where I live, especially if you're gifted in some way
Yeah, it's great at creating stembugs ready to work for Goldstein. Not good enough for a Napoleon

[Anonymous No.16283892]

>>16283882
I'm probably living in the only country in the world with a school that pays you to study classical literature and philosophy up to doctorate level if you're good enough. Coincidentially, Napoleon co-founded that school.

[Anonymous No.16284260]

>>16281089
Stendhal

[Anonymous No.16284549]

Why would anyone want another Napoleon in this day and age?

Virtually everyone agrees with his views on democracy and liberalism.

[Anonymous No.16284567]

>>16283817
idk where you live, but in the US pUblic schooling is highly variable due to education’s decentralized nature in the US. some are really good and others are really poor. and a lot of it is mostly teacher driven and they make most of the curriculum, they just need to prepare them for state mandated testing. I actualwhen to the netherlands and a lot of people ironically liked a lot of the american model. of course inner city stuff is another matter.

>t. studies comparative edjucation.

[Anonymous No.16284573]

>>16284549
democracy and libralism only works under a virtuous monarch/despot (napoleon)

[Anonymous No.16284593]

>>16284573
They seem to be working pretty well for the past sixty years

[Anonymous No.16285037]

https://tenyearreadinglist.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/next-time-plutarch’s-caesar-why-did-he-cry-over-alexander/

[Anonymous No.16285048]

>>16281145
I see you anon, even if nobody else does.

[Anonymous No.16286549]

>>16281089
My diary desu