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Reminder: his real name was Aristocles. Use the name his dad gave for him.

>According to Diogenes, the philosopher was named after his grandfather Aristocles, but his wrestling coach, Ariston of Argos, dubbed him "Platon", meaning "broad" on account of his robust figure.[27]

>> No.16276741

>>16276731
He was a real chad. His name in history, that is of philosophy, is one of physical achievement prior to all right.

>> No.16277031
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16277031

>>16276741
Has anyone ever had a more fitting name?
>absolute chad in body, brains, and influence, Πλάτων in all three.
He is a god in expanse.

>> No.16277048

>>16277031
And I mean, arguably the greatest thinker ever as well. It is a result today that we shall hold Plato as merely a philosophy, but he is a great man of history, no such hero lives an uninteresting life.

>> No.16277160

>>16277048

Quite so, philosophy would be better transliterated as love of Plato. My dildo shaped after him will be here soon. Can’t wait to fuck my ass silly with it.

>> No.16277390

>>16277031
hey are you the radical platonistanon who thinks (rightly) that anything deviating from platonism is not philosophy? can you help with me some things about platonism and the (orphic, eleusinian) mysteries? are you acknowledged in these too?

>> No.16277397

>>16276731
>philosopher known by his wrestling name
Based
Imagine The Rock’s Metaphysics laying the groundwork for 2000 years of future society

>> No.16277897
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>>16277390
I follow Plato's Sophist, in that anyone who denies the "world of forms" denies truth itself of any form; and by themselves refute themselves. What then this is in more detail can be debated. Sophist and Philebus has "all" the answers to Plato's higher metaphysics.

Depends on the question.
Plato was an Orphic, or "at least" revered 'Orpheus' as an equal to Homer and Hesiod. But he was well aware of the, already his time, inflation of mysteries and books claiming to be the Original poems.
>If anyone arriving in Hades will have escaped from those who call themselves jurymen here, and will find those true jurymen who are said to sit in judgment there, Minos and Rhadamanthus and Aeacus and Triptolemus and the other demi-gods who have been upright in their own life, would that be a poor kind of change? Again, what would one of you give to keep company with Orpheus and Musaeus, Hesiod and Homer? I am willing to die many times if that is true

>> No.16277986

>you will never be given a cool mononym from a Platonic scholarch
Why even live

>> No.16278006

>>16276731
thx anon. do you happen to have pictures of his cock?

>> No.16278024

>>16277397

Kek. You'd be able to smell what he's cooking throughout the ages.

>> No.16278031

>>16277897

>'Following' a hypothetical strawman

>> No.16278070

>>16277897
yes but why did those mysteries have a very dualistic understanding of earth and the divine realm, body and soul, considering the body a prison, plato vouching for it. however at the same time plato considered the creation created by a benevolent and wise demiurge, and matter itself as a nurse.

>> No.16278078

>>16278031
do you care to elaborate? what do you think is hypothetical and what is a strawman of what?

>> No.16278079

He literally never said anything important

>> No.16278106
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>the soul is the form of the body
Can someone explain this?

>> No.16278146

>>16278079
oh yeah, that is why we are still reading and studying his works after almost 3 millennia.

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16278181

>>16276731
Rocking the El Chapo hairstyle, what a boss

>> No.16278215

That moment when you realize that Socrates, Plato and Aristotle were the same person

>> No.16278338

>>16277160
Eh- good luck with that I guess anon?

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>>16277897
BAsed, I saved this image with the same filename as you and it's based.

>> No.16278367

>>16278070
There's a lot of poetic consideration in Plato's philosophy, and though all of it contains truth, I think Plato often says right out as much that it's not necessarily literally true or correct.

>> No.16278373

>>16278106
Wait so Plato believed that the Forms were somewhat animated?

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>>16278031
>caring about the main topic of any dialogue

>> No.16278509

>>16278070
the prison is enslavement to your animalistic passions, or rather, freely submitting your higher self to your lower self, turning the hierarchy up-side down. None of the parts are evil in their correct place, it's our flawed dispositions that twists good things, like matter and body, or sex, or pleasure, or leisure, or rest, or drinking, or eating... There are no things evil in themselves.

>> No.16278616

half of what he wrote is theology (nonsense)