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16252358 No.16252358 [Reply] [Original]

Best dystopian books? I've already know the read the basics:

- We
- Brave New World
- 1984
- Anthem

what else? All these are ultra-collectivist dystopias. Is there any good book with the opposite? An ultra-individualist/capitalist dystopia? Or is such world simply impossible to even imagine?

>> No.16252397

>>16252358
Cyberpunk novels, but there aren't any good ones.

>> No.16252405

Read any russian literature

>> No.16252541

>>16252358
The wanting seed! Pretty based

>> No.16252566

Add Fahrenheit 451 to the basics.

>> No.16252574

>>16252358
>An ultra-individualist/capitalist dystopia?
you're living in it, also neuromancer

>> No.16252686

>>16252358
>An ultra-individualist/capitalist dystopia?
You might consider Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? The way that Deckard is risking his life just to keep up with the Jones'.

>> No.16252703

>>16252686
Forgot to mention, Project Itou's Genocidal Organ might fit this too although it's told from the perspective of a SOF. Very reminiscent of the Metal Gear games. The "sequel" Harmony is dystopian as well although it's an ultra-collectivist dystopia.

>> No.16252715

Habermas, The Theory of Communicative Action

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>>16252358
Eumeswil is what you're looking for

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>>16252358
city of ash and red

>> No.16253550

>>16252358
Richard Brautigan - In Watermelon Sugar

>> No.16254139

>>16252405
like what exactly

>> No.16254254

>>16252397
Good answer. Gibson is a writer whose basic idea has been massively influential, who tapped into something in the popular imagination. Also gets the ambiguity between ideal/nightmare right with these sometimes comfy seeming outsider communities but a fundamentally shitty world. If only he could write better.

What's weirder is that the best book that followed it (Snow Crash) is itself a totally non-earnest case study in turning Neuromancer into a marketable meme.

>> No.16254281

>>16252358
Clockwork Orange, One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest

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>>16252358
underrated

>> No.16254300

>>16252358
Sorry to say it, but Infinite Jest is exactly this.

Corporate takeover of government, removal of environmental protection, new media and old drugs launching a wave of addiction, nothing but islands of suspiciously funded academia in a sea of junkies and McDonalds employees.

>> No.16254338

>>16254300
There was no removal of environmental protection in IJ, really they just consolidated the countries landfills into one area to provide the huge amounts of waste which were need to fuel annular fusion which in turn made the great concavity/convexity hyper verdant. This also help meet President Gentles campaign promises regarding the war on filth. It is possibly spin and the area was a wasteland, but all of the annular fusion shit in the novel would have to be bullshit for that to be the case.

Really everything you said was bullshit and you just projected your own world view onto the novel.

>> No.16254471

>>16252358
Someone mentioned 451, so kallocain, I guess. Although I don't know how the translations are.

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>>16252358
The Peace War

>> No.16254546

Darkness at Noon

>> No.16254620

Fuck me guys, I've finally got around to reading Atlas Shrugged and I'm legitimately astonished at how terrible it is. I'm about half way through. Can I expect an improvement? Anyone actually like it?

>> No.16254645

>>16252358
forever war, its is a few dystopias in one.

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Pre dystopian but great

>> No.16254971

wells is the way to go.

>> No.16255263

>>16252358
The Republic by Plato.

>> No.16255302

>>16254620
>Can I expect improvement?
No. Like many others here you probably thought it might be good because so many of its detractors are the kind of idiots who decolonize their bookshelves. But it's actually that terrible.

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>>16252358
Vermilion Sands by JG Ballard
Superbly written series of short stories about technocrat artists and aesthetes flattened by boredom and ennui in desert resort.
If I had to choose a dystopia to live in it would be this one.

>> No.16255418

>>16254620
Yore supposed to read it as a teenager. I read it years ago and I remember it being a silly cheesy adventure mystery. Like brother Taggart is a complete bumbling dunce and Sister Taggart has to clean up all of his messes, and she has a dashing Spanish childhood lover, and then some Swedish pirate shows up out of literally nowhere and gives someone his booty. I wouldn't read it again but it was over the top enough for me to read and enjoy at 16.

>> No.16255713

Just get a newspaper HA TA