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[Anonymous No.16252264]

Ive noticed that a lot of people these days are looking for religious purpose in even it's most debased forms, now that major religions are in decline. You get BLM that has become something of a religion, youve got the QAnon protests in Germany that are just fucking bizarre, and youve got political polarisation all across the board. It's like an opiate of the masses (although communists organizations themselves are also just opiates of the masses, as is a god-like faith in revolution and kingdom come).

Are there any good books that delve into this? Also books on how to start your own religion, just curious. I know Spengler touches on it, but it's not really fleshed out.

[Anonymous No.16252270]

Related
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/28/business/remote-work-spiritual-consultants.html

[Anonymous No.16252272]

>>16252270
Got a version without a paywall?

[Anonymous No.16252283]

>>16252264
Adorno wrote a bit about this in The Stars Down to Earth but of course it's very biased against the right and he attributes it all to capitalism. I would say the essays are worth reading anyway though.

[Anonymous No.16252285]

>>16252272
Turn off javascript or put it into one of those archive websites, 4chan blocks them

[Anonymous No.16252295]

>>16252264
it's because people are no longer being taught science properly. like it or not, STEM is the greatest purpose provider that has ever graced humanity. when you take away a man's ability to understand and appreciate nature, what else does he have apart from bullshit?

[Anonymous No.16252310]

>mfw modern day feminist "witches"
I want this phenomenon explained, and i want people to explain why i find it so much more disgusting than regular goths or wiccan retards. It actually makes me angry.

[Anonymous No.16252320]

>>16252310
Simple. They want to be Hermione.

[Anonymous No.16252364]

>>16252320
why would you want to be that cunt

[Anonymous No.16252387]

>>16252264
It's stage 1 of the oncoming deliberalization and revitalization of the world.

[Anonymous No.16252364,1]

>>16252264
There is only one source of all of this. Jews. They are behind all intellectual movements; they are behind all cults. Every single time.

[Anonymous No.16252387,1]

>>16252387
No, it's the Jewification of Western culture. Jews are just enslaved to their genetic and cultural heritage with this crap, at the expense of white people. They are undermining the cohesion of whites and trying to debauch us. Cults are garbage. They must be smashed.

[Anonymous No.16253471]

>>16252310
they're girls having fun, like a spiritually rewarding tabletop game

[Anonymous No.16253476]

Amusing Ourselves to Death

[Anonymous No.16253997]

>>16252310
They're basic bitches that think they're a fucking Bene Gesserit for having read The Kybalion

[Anonymous No.16254741]

>>16253471
yeah but they think theyre really sticking it to conservatives or the patriarchy, when what theyre doing is just mental masturbation

[Jesus No.16254778]

>>16252264
people have questions and look for answers, comfy opiate answers. listen to people, and do sweet talk, faggot.

[Anonymous No.16254806]

>>16252264
The equating of political movements/ideologies to religion is lazy and superficial. One of the more annoying received ideas of late.

[Anonymous No.16254835]

>>16254806
It's also a perfectly apt comparison that's more relevant to our times than it has ever been before. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.16254846]

>>16252264
i wonder, since in the usa dozens of millions of irreligious exist in areas where catholicism is the only religion, if a 100 years from now on when there is a religious revival there will be a massive catholic usa

[Anonymous No.16254865]

>>16252264
Read Carl Schmitt. I think you'll like his Political Theology.

[Anonymous No.16254938]

>>16254806
This. The amount of retards in this board who dismiss, for example, Christian philosophy and the interchangeable influence between Greeks and Semites because "muh subservise joos" is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.16254943]

>>16252264
Nietzsche talks about how people will try to cope with the death of God by inventing new ones

[Anonymous No.16254945]

>>16254835
No this, it's apt af

[Anonymous No.16254950]

>>16254938
I didnt do that, i just observed that
1. Political movements have behave more and more like degenerate cults, including saintliness and confessionals
2. "Spiritual" cults have started to take over as major religions have gone into decline.
I didn't even mention jews

[Anonymous No.16255392]

>>16254865
how does it cover this?

[Anonymous No.16255632]

>>16254865
>>16255392
bmup also interested

[Anonymous No.16255670]

>>16255392
>>16255632
His main contention is that all modern-day political concepts are secularized versions of theological ones.
If you read The Concept of the Political, you'll also get why people are behaving so fanatically.

[Anonymous No.16255710]

>>16252310
Literally just an Instagram phenomenon. I know one of these girls and she got into it from astrology. Unrelated but she's also obsessed with K-pop and wants to marry a millionaire to have an "open relationship".

[Anonymous No.16255712]

>>16252264
>An Anxious Age: The Post-Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of America - Joseph Bottum

This book explains why you're seeing the new Wokeism religion. I also recommend -

>The Price of Monotheism - Jan Assmann
>The Invention of Religion: Faith and Covenant in the Book of Exodus - Jan Assmann
>From Akhenaten to Moses: Ancient Egypt and Religious Change - Jan Assmann

[Anonymous No.16255730]

>>16252264
Try Evola and/or Guenon if you want to explore the metaphysical aspect.

[Anonymous No.16256314]

>>16252295
>STEM
literally reduces everyrhing to quantity and hedonic utility. Its precisely the reason this is happening.
>>16252264
The rise in religiosity is because people, a their core, feel the pull of the Divine. Islam is still the largest growing religion in the world because its essentially the closest to the Truth and the greatest vehicle and the straightest path to God, may Their name be praised.

If you haven't I dare you to read the Quran OP. Dawood's translation is fine imo.

[Anonymous No.16256319]

>>16255730
I'll second Guenon (pbuh). Evola was still too hylic imo.
Also me >>16256314

[Anonymous No.16256333]

>>16252387
InshAlLah

[Anonymous No.16256394]

>>16252264
>Are there any good books that delve into this?
Literally Nietzsche.
>how to start your own religion
A guy did this by setting up a newspaper ad, and wrote a book on how it worked well enough he had to come up with practices for his new devotees. It's called Join Me by Danny Wallace. It's a comfy airport reading pop culture kind of book. Jon Ronson also has a few books on people who believe weird conspiracies and have far too much cultural cachet. They're also good pop culture reading level, if Nietzsche is too flowery and allusive for you.

[Anonymous No.16256405]

>>16252310
Just stuff that dummies like, it's an extension of astrology and crystal healing bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16256414]

>>16256394
Also >>16252264
Can you tell us how the elephant is doing that?

[Anonymous No.16256426]

>>16256314
>literally reduces everyrhing to quantity and hedonic utility. Its precisely the reason this is happening.
No it isn't. Not at all, in fact.

>>16254846
There's a really weird intersection between the US and Catholicism, in that the US is simultaneously the perfect place for Catholicism yet absolutely hates it. The WASPs preferred to breed with Jews over Catholics, yet the Vatican would fit perfectly into the US's semi-transparent "free society where associations are what matters". Konstantin Pobodonostsev (the grey eminence behind the last 3-4 Russian Czars) prognosticated that the US would convert to Catholicism. In a way, the US is converting the Vatican to Americanism. But, if it succeeds, and embraces the Vatican, his prediction will be correct, he was just wrong about how it would occur.

It's interesting that in the minds of the Jewish elites who craft America's media, there are two sorts of Christianity: the first is a radically ignorant Bible thumping pseudo-paganism devoid of any intellectualism, concerned solely with grift and power, and the second is a sort of stately idealized Catholicism.

[Anonymous No.16256503]

>>16256426
This guy is wrong. Dont listen to him.

[Anonymous No.16256574]

>>16256503
How so?

[Anonymous No.16256666]

Here OP, have an actual answer.

[Anonymous No.16256672]

>>16256414
He's vaping

[Anonymous No.16256738]

>>16252264
Read Reign of Quantity and Signs of the Times.

[Anonymous No.16256757]

>>16256672
But there is no vape device.

[Anonymous No.16256758]

>>16252264
read this

[Anonymous No.16257399]

>>16256757
the trunk is nature's vaping device

[Anonymous No.16257519]

>>16256574
jews hate catholics more than protestants
they view protestants as dumb but moldable but view catholics as a threat

[Anonymous No.16258267]

>>16256758
How is Jung regarded nowadays? Does this book still hold up?

[Anonymous No.16258677]

>>16257399
But where liquid cartridge?

[Anonymous No.16258741]

>>16258677
That's a secret

[Anonymous No.16259044]

>>16252264

Thus Spoke Zarathustra.

[Anonymous No.16259877]

>>16256666
Have you actually read it?
I have.

[Anonymous No.16259907]

>>16252264
The True Believer, maybe.

[Anonymous No.16260703]

>>16252264
It's how ideas fucking work mate. It's true of ideologies, religions, recipes, math, martial arts; it is not some unique similarity between only the first two. That's just how ideas spread. By spreading. Sometimes they're bought and other times resisted.

>>16254806
Correct

[Anonymous No.16260823]

>>16252264
Traditional Catholicism is not in decline, at all

[Anonymous No.16261803]

>>16259877
what's in it

[Anonymous No.16261824]

>>16252264
Carl Jung’s The Undiscovered Self is almost entirely about this concept

[Anonymous No.16261828]

>>16258267
Still highly relevant. He is still brilliant.

[Anonymous No.16261851]

>>16252310
Well, I don't know about you; but for me wicca has always seemed like some kind of nega-relgion. Even the most primitive kind of pagan cult seemed to have some sense of longing and reaching out to an other, something that's not you. even if it was only to placate your god and try to get it to do things for you. Wicca just seems to hold up their phoney baloney Goddess as some kind of magic mirror in which the witch can magnify her image so that she can see herself as important as she wishes she was.

[Anonymous No.16262242]

>>16252264
It says a lot about an epistemological cycle inferred from Spengler's philosophy of history though. We began with medieval religious mysticism, then through rationalism human reason begins to creep in, God disppears with empiricism, and finally through idealism man ended up believing he had become God. The materialism of the 19th century was the consequence. By the 20th century there was total confusion, lack of direction and purpose, a century of the most destructive genocidal wars in modern history. Materialism bred physicalism which bred nihilism. Now we are at the end of the cycle, we are no longer rationalists, or empiricists or idealists, but mystics. Nobody has faith in human reason anymore, only faith in what they believe

[Anonymous No.16262455]

>>16260823
Correct: it's completely dead

[Anonymous No.16262580]

Try the bible

[Anonymous No.16263085]

>>16262455
is that why it is growing so much?