Should Christians read the Greek Pagans

[Anonymous No.16225509]

If Plato and Aristotle worshipped demons, why should Christians take what they say as truth?

How did Greek Pagan theology get merged with Christian thought?

[Anonymous No.16225515]

>>16225509
Yep I can't wait I warned everyone. Put in evil and some motherfucker will get power and you trained him to be evil just you wait when am I wrong?

[Anonymous No.16225529]

>>16225515
What

[Anonymous No.16225543]

>>16225529
You crazy motherfucker I will force you to be eviler and eviler. I'm going to bring you down and when someone figures it out you're all fucked. It might take one generation eventually some faggots are going to get tired of sex and want power and I made you all eviler you just watch

[Anonymous No.16225556]

real schizo hours

[Anonymous No.16225567]

>>16225509
They shouldn't be allowed. Julian was right in this. If you seek to tear down the beliefs, culture, history, traditions, and to pervert the arguments of those that you seek to study then it is best for everyone that you are barred from it altogether.

"No classical education in Christian schools!" This is the core of my political program. Will you vote for me?

[Anonymous No.16225587]

>>16225556
I'm right your eu and un are bunch of pedophiles living off race

[Anonymous No.16225621]

>>16225509
Greek philosophy isn't based on faith like your kike fairy tale. You dont just believe it's the truth because some authority arbitrarily told you to or you'll burn in hell, but think about what they are saying for yourself.

[Anonymous No.16225638]

Basil the Great actually wrote a book about it, and he says that yes Christians can read pagan literature.

[Anonymous No.16225689]

based dubu poster

[Anonymous No.16225802]

>>16225509
>If Plato and Aristotle worshipped demons, why should Christians take what they say as truth?
No.

[Anonymous No.16225975]

Not this shit again.

[Anonymous No.16225979]

>>16225802
She has such a good nature about her, top tier kpop star

>>16225638
why?

>>16225621
>BRUH JUST THINK FOR YOUSELF
brainlet spotted

[Anonymous No.16226060]

>>16225979
It’s called «Address to young men on Greek literature». Just read it.

[Anonymous No.16227022]

>>16225509

You should focus more on learning to read so that you don't post dumbass shit threads like this about stuff you obviously know nothing about OP

[Anonymous No.16227069]

Christians also should stop breathing because air is a pagan demon.

[Anonymous No.16227114]

Plato didn't worship demons, and several passages point to him being somewhat of a monotheist. Logos Christology (as in the Gospel of John) is largely a descendant of Platonic philosophy, and the Neoplatonists had a great impact on the greatest of the Church Fathers: St. Augustine. The greatest doctor of the Church, St. Aquinas, imported Aristotle's metaphysics and ethics in bulk.

[Anonymous No.16227614]

>>16225509
>>16225802
i would like to touch and sniff her

[Anonymous No.16227651]

The most Orthodox of the Church Fathers, like Jerome, would agree, all books except for the New Testament, the Torah, and commentaries on either should be burnt. The more Unorthodox ones, like Augustine, would disagree, and say that they were just reaching to God in their own way.

In the end, Augustine and friends won, because Jerome and friends were smoothbrains who only really had power so the Emperor could use them as a cudgel against his enemies.

[Anonymous No.16228696]

>>16225979
yeah don't think for yourself. just believe the pedophiles in the funny hats.

[Anonymous No.16228829]

>>16228696
Never said I liked catholicism, they’re worse than pagans

[Anonymous No.16228852]

>>16227114
Op meant Socrates daemon

[Anonymous No.16228892]

>>16225509
the seed of truth was planted in those pagan writers. like the momentary flicker of light from a lighthouse in a storm. thus, we should read them

[Anonymous No.16228940]

>>16225509
>>16225802
Even all the plastic surgery in the world can't hide her insect nature. Look closely at her nose, look how wide her nostrils are. Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.16228984]

>>16228852
I'm not sure he did. Even so, you have people like Kierkegaard writing that Christianity is essentially daimoniacal.

[Anonymous No.16229873]

>>16228940
chill

>>16228984
>>16228852

No I meant demons

[Anonymous No.16229889]

>>16228984
>>16229873
What demons did they worship? All that God created is good, some are more good than others

[Anonymous No.16230299]

>>16229889
>All that God created is good
Correct, but there's an important distinction to be made here. Gene Wolfe gives this analogy: supposing that creation is a word (λογος) spoken by God, then there must be alternative words in God's vocabulary, words-not-spoken. For if God only knew and could speak one word, that word would lack meaning, as it would mean everything and therefore nothing. So, these words-not-spoken must not exist (or else they would have been spoken into existence), but neither can they *not* exist, as they have to give the spoken Word meaning apophatically. Thus, these unspoken words are held in a state of quasi-existence, and it is from this vocabulary that demons and seekers of dark knowledge draw their power.

[Anonymous No.16230315]

>>16230299
it's predicate monism not in the vein of Patricia curd.
The derogatory nature of being, as it goes down, is the development of different objects. For instance writing itself takes different forms in poems, prose etc. From being comes truth and truth ontology, ontology logic > math etc

[Anonymous No.16230323]

>>16225509
Holy shit you christians are absolutely retarded also your shitty fantasy beliefs came from the greeks.

[Anonymous No.16230327]

>>16230323
Nobody cares, until you accept realism you will be a shifty cockroach with political divisions

[Anonymous No.16230328]

>>16225509
>christian doesn't want to read some dated philosophy because hes a mong and his low IQ can't handle other beliefs

[Anonymous No.16230339]

>>16230328
He phoneposts and post some
ugly korean cake face, so you already know
hes some white american kid.

[Anonymous No.16230694]

>>16230315
So not-truth also comes from being, in your ontology? I fail to see how your god isn't Demian's Abraxas.

[Anonymous No.16230730]

>>16230694
no it's the absense of being. It doesn't exist. I can't pick up darkness and manipulate or throw it into al lit room to dim it, it just doesn't exist. All things break down like this

[Anonymous No.16230750]

The future mother of my children.

[Anonymous No.16230990]

>>16230730
Then, if being is truth, you can't say that truth is derived from being. Truth would simply be being: they are equivalent. I don't understand what you mean by "all things break down like this."

[Anonymous No.16231644]

>>16225979
>think for yourself on the basis of your reason rather than an arbitrary source of authority dictating the nature of reality to you
>UH OH BRAINLET SPOTTED
So this is the power of the modern Christian...

[Anonymous No.16231666]

>>16230990
The copula doesn't account for how sets work so to say truth is being could be truth is the subset of being. I say truth is whether an object's being matches another's being or its own and ontology is the correct way to conceptualize being (the current king of France in a video game vs in reality for example). They cover different fields.

All things are subsets of proper sets which culminate in the proper set of being (God's).

[Anonymous No.16231704]

>>16225509
>OH MY GOD THE GREEK WORD DAIMON, WHICH WAS USED TO REFER TO THE SPIRIT THAT HELPS MAN TO CROSS THE GAP BETWEEN THE HUMAN AND THE DIVINE, SOUNDS LIKE THE WORD DEMON DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE GREEKS WERE IN COMMUNION WITH SATAN? MY SEMITIC THUNDER GOD WOULD NOT APPROVE OF THIS
Could Christians just stay off /lit/? Your dogmatism just refuses to consider anything that challenges its worldview, what's even the point in coming here, it's like someone who's lactose-intolerant chugging gallons of milk, you're just going to shit yourself and everyone else is going to be forced to put up with the smell.
There must be other places you can all affirm your views and circle jerk each other

[Anonymous No.16231711]

>>16225509
Yes. They created Christianity friend
Lucifer= Castrated
Cronus= Castrated

Zeus, represented by the Eagle.
Jesus represented by the Dove.

Zeus overthrows his father Cronus to bring justice to the world.
Jesus out thought his elders, Begins the Pax Romana and longest dominating empire.

What this is doing is further proving the Classical Mythology was the original Christianity. The Pagan thought created Christianity long before it came. Well before Roman Catholocism.

Take it in the words of Tertullian, Ancient Christian who's time was before the Church.

“But these scars were cut in a Christian combat. They are, assuredly, efficacious in the sight of Christ, since a desire for victory won them, and so, they too are worthy of honor because it was only in not overcoming that they were overcome. The very devil himself regards them with dismay. They have experienced misfortune, but they are chaste. In the performance of penance they grieve before the Lord but they do not blush. They will be forgiven once again because in their apostasy they made reparation. In their case, only, may we say: the flesh is weak. But Flesh which overcomes the Spirit-there is none so strong as that!”

I am explaining how they created it:
https://seanald.ca/platos-allegory
https://seanald.ca/alexander-the-wanderer/

[Anonymous No.16231714]

>>16225543
What

[Anonymous No.16231722]

>>16225509
>>16229873
Daimones had different connotations and definitions in Greek philosophy than they do in Christianity. They are completely different concepts and should be treated in their respective historical-cultural-socio contexts

[Anonymous No.16231728]

>>16231714
did it already burn in hell

[Anonymous No.16231730]

>>16231722
>doesn't understand the complexity of the holy spirit
yawn

[Anonymous No.16231732]

>>16231728
Your pills schizo. Go to them. Pray to God.

[Anonymous No.16231739]

>>16231732
You're not Christian and triggering you by proving a bird is nicer than humans is probably my favorite trick of the past 2.5 years

[Anonymous No.16231751]

>>16231739
What

[Anonymous No.16231759]

>>16231751
what?

[Anonymous No.16233054]

>anon asks a nugatory question to justify starting a kpop general on /lit/

[Anonymous No.16233103]

>>16231704
>Spirit that helps man
>Not demons
keep draining the AIDs cum out of your blown out asshole

[Anonymous No.16233117]

>>16231644
>Having faith in facts, logic, and rationality
peak bugman

[Anonymous No.16233121]

All the retards ITT raging against Christians because of a kid although real Christians have already answered above.