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Why do female zoomers like Harry Potter so much?

>> No.16209659

Because it's really popular, lots of people like it

>> No.16209675

>>16209651
because women are children imprisoned in adults bodies

>> No.16209699

>>16209651
I'm male and like Harry Potter. I don't like how it ended or how Rowling constantly tries to shill her retarded politics into the books by making Dumbledore gay or Hermione black, but I think Harry Potter is a good story with solid characters and it is sufficiently deep to promote introspection of some kind. Rowling might not be a Dickens or a Tolkien, and her story may not last another generation but they are still good children and YA books.

>> No.16209708

They like products.

>> No.16209714

>>16209651
it's more of a millennial thing I think
idk what the zoomer YA garbage of choice is, maybe hunger games or something

>> No.16209720

there's literally a zoomer meme making fun of millenials for liking harry potter.

why are you so hopelessly out of touch you stupid booomer?

>> No.16209725

>>16209714
I don't think zoomers read books whatsoever

>> No.16209732

because women are adults imprisoned in childrens bodies

>> No.16209742

>>16209699
Dumbledore has been gay since like forever. I remember reading theories about his sexuality since like the early 2000s.

>> No.16209752

>>16209720
>why are you so hopelessly out of touch you stupid booomer?
For my own sanity.

>> No.16209765

>>16209752
good for you. stop shitposting your stupidity here

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>>16209732
As old schoopy said

>> No.16210394

>>16209742
Rowling is a coward. She could've easily added something about his sexuality in the books, his relationship with Grindelwald is somewhat relevant to the plot, but she chose not to. I guess it's easier to shitpost on Twitter later.

>> No.16210421

>>16209765
Thanks but I'll pass. Anything that upsets zoom zooms is BASED by default.

>> No.16210452

>>16209699
There is some questionable ethical stuff to do with the muggles, and also with the constant schadenfreude directed at various people, but on the whole I think they are good for kids to think about things like empathy, sacrifice, love, death, etc.

>> No.16210583

>>16209651
because twitter screencap posters must die

>> No.16210887

>>16209651
It's easy to read a string of cliches becasue it doesn't present you with any new ideas. It goes down like anaesthetic milk.

>> No.16210893

>>16210887
what clichés are there in the HP books?

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>>16209651
Genre fiction for women: wholesome Christian hero's journey tale without any graphic violence or sex
Genre fiction for men: DUDE THE MIDDLE AGES WAS ALL BRUTAL MURDER AND RAPE, AND DID I MENTION I'M AN ATHEIST?

>> No.16210938

>>16209861
Pathetic.

>> No.16210946

>>16209725
Zoomer here, can confirm. Books are overrated.

>> No.16210950

>>16210946
And I'm here just to laugh at the autuism.

>> No.16210997

>>16209742
Everything which has teenage girls as fans has theories the male characters are gay. Doctor Who, BBC Sherlock..

>> No.16211009

>>16210997
LOTR, the Silmarillion too.

>> No.16211019

Women only like harry potter to „not be like other girls“. They fail to see how that ship has sailed long ago and how it now makes them exactly „one of those girls“. Initially, it was the classic „this guy likes this book so i‘ll pretend i like it too to make him like me better“ idea that brought girls to pretend to like it. Harry potter isn‘t written for women, it is written for boys. No girl would naturally be fascinated by the hero‘s journey because that is not the archetypal feminine struggle. This is why it is even more repulsive for women to like harry potter than it is for men. It is a clear sign that they are either completely out of touch with their femininity or that their whole taste is based on what they think will get them more male sympathy. Usually it is a mix of both.

>> No.16211031

>>16209651
They have a very strong desperation to belong and follow trends. They'd say they love Lord of the rings too if more popular whores on Instagram told them to.

>> No.16211043

>>16209720
Which meme? Anything I can search?

>> No.16211047

>>16211019
ok then how the FUCK did a woman write it huh? check and mate

>> No.16211075

>>16211047
>seriously thinks i haven‘t factored that in
She wrote it for her son. Women and men can understand each other‘s core struggle but they can not experience it to the same degree. Harry potter is a rather shallow and simple depiction of the hero‘s journey so it is absolutely possible for a woman to come up with that.

>> No.16211164

>>16209651
tolkien proves too difficult for those with attention spans capped at 15 seconds

>> No.16211177

>>16209651
I thought they all dropped her when she started opining about transsexuals.

>> No.16211178

>>16209651
Check the archives for the last time you asked this insipid question

>> No.16211188

>>16211177
Officially, yes. In reality that just made it easier for thots to reel in the portion of simps that thinks they stand above simping since they are „blackpilled“. Saying you like hp now is synonymous with saying „trannies are not real women“, which is a good way to get pol incel‘s attention.

>> No.16211206

Likely due to it's rather excessive popularity. Hence why it's liked by male zoomers as well. However, the whole thing about Rowling over-writing on some of it's themes, likely contributes to this as well.

>> No.16211246

WHO CARES , HOLY FUCK. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO SPEND YOUR LIFE RUMINATING ON

>> No.16211261

>>16210927
Game of Thrones is for women, though. Nothing about Harry Potter is Christian.

>> No.16211264

>>16210946
Zoom zooms are overrated.

>> No.16211270

>>16211261
literally everything about Harry Potter is Christian

>> No.16211276

>>16209651
Female zoomers don't read Harry Potter (or anything else, generally, just like the males). You're thinking of millenials.

>> No.16211279

>>16209651
It's probably the only books they remember

>> No.16211280

>>16209742
He's an insanely old man. Old men don't have sexualities.

>> No.16211282

>>16211280
Oh my sweet summer child

>> No.16211285

>>16211270
No, everything about Harry Potter is British conservatism, which isn't christian in the slightest.

>> No.16211289

>>16211282
Old men shouldn't express their sexualities. Nor should women. People over the age of 25 shouldn't be having sex at all.

>> No.16211302

>>16209861
>>16209732

What about Haleth of the Haladin who led her people to the forest of Brethil, territory of King Thingol, ruler of Doriath?

>> No.16211309

>>16211302
/lit/'s never read any of the history of Middle Earth. Stop.

>> No.16211318

>>16211309
Well then, what about Nymeria of the Rhoynar who led her people to Dorne, territory of Mors Martell, after Rhoyne was conquered by Valyria?

>> No.16211326

>>16209699
I think they're fine YA fiction. Her prose is often quite witty for children's literature, and she makes good enough use of foreshadowing that on rereads I've always found things that I've missed.

I'm perfectly fine with Dumbledore being gay, though I wish it were made a bit more explicit in the books. "Hermione being black" was just color-blind casting for the play, which theatres do all the damn time, only Rowling had to try and be clever about it and it ended up backfire.

>> No.16211371

>>16211318

I didn't write this and I think that sounds like Game of Thrones which I haven't read.

>>16211309

There was a thread about Tolkien's "The Silmarillion" a while ago, or couple of weeks ago, on /lit/ asking about their favorite characters from the book. I replied that I need to reread the book since I last read it in high school. I'm rereading it now.

>>16211326

"color-blind casting for the play, which theatres do all the damn time"

Last year I think, there was a /tv/ thread where they were complaining about American theaters casting Black people in their plays, I think it was a photo of an African-American woman in a Shakespearean play. I think I commented that that was what happens when you teach American and European culture to people of color, many of which are Americans. I think a /tv/ anon thought I was against the teaching of American culture to PoCs when I'm a PoC myself. Besides, receiving an education, especially in American/European culture most likely reduces crime which is what I read in Berman's "Twilight of American Culture."

>> No.16211378

>>16209651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHGNf6nWUm0

>> No.16211413

>>16209651
Not everyone is a contrarian

>> No.16211435

>>16211280
He's also a single teacher on a British boarding school, he's bound to be bi at least

>> No.16211437

>>16211371
Its called A Song of Ice and Fire. The Rhoynar aren't even mentioned in the tv series.

>> No.16211446

>>16211413
This. Fucking Coontrarions.
>aaa--hhjj I--I mus-t coooontradict aaaaaah

>> No.16211626

>>16209651
Because women are faggots

>> No.16211724

>>16209651
idk if i can agree with the picture, man. what if they just read them as they came out as a kid, and kept them because it's cool to have a bunch of first edition books of a popular book series on their shelf?

when i first met my girlfriend i was lowkey judging her by some of the books on her shelf, and when i brought it up she was like ''oh yeah, nah, i hated those books, they were just the required reading material i had to get for courses in college.'' for example, she has a copy of A Patriot's History of the United States and A People's History of the United States. she had to read both so she could logically break down and differentiate opposing arguments and sides of perception and whatnot. i too have books in my personal collection that i dislike/disagree with as well, for the same reasons. shit, i even have books i've never read that people would judge me by, but i keep them because they were passed down from grandparents and whatnot.

but i digress. this isn't about the pic in your post. as for zoomers, i can't say, i'm 28. there are cringy af chicks i've met that're in their 30's that gush about Harry Potter. from anecdotal experience it's usually due to sentiment. in much more intense instances, it's the same as people making an identity out of something they like and projecting their self worth in a way upon it, much like people do with sports. for me, the latter is definitely be a red flag. but for others who share the same affliction, they'd be a fitting match.

hopefully this makes sense

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16211744

Thank you based JK Rowling for giving British lads free pussy almost anywhere in the world

>> No.16212554

>>16210927
>Genre fiction for women: wholesome Christian hero's journey tale without any graphic violence or sex
Without any sex? You know what is the best selling genre fiction, right?

>> No.16212612

>>16209651
they probably want to get into reading and the only thing that comes to mind without having to use internet is harry pottah

>> No.16212721

why are people responding to this stupid thread? why is this board so shit

>> No.16213619

What exactly do you mean?
Plenty of people have the books on their bookshelf and it does not really say anything about them.

>> No.16213887

>>16211019
Women like it because it's easy and fun to read. Women read more than men. That's irrefutable. The publishing industry is overwhelmingly female. Women are more interested in books than men

>> No.16213904

>>16212721
>he doesn't know about saging
I have bumped maybe 50 threads in a year of using this board.

>> No.16214035

>>16209651
Rowling's prescience is uncanny in her descriptions of Voldemort. Just as Voldemort freed all the dark wizards in Azkaban, so too did the Democrats free thousands of rapists, murderers, pedophiles, etc. from prison.

it's like Rowling has a magic crystal ball or something. How did she predict the Democrat's playbook so accurately, and decades before they would act on it?

>> No.16214106

>>16211270
i'm not sure if she intended the book to be Christian themed, i saw it more as "Osiris-themed" (and Christianity has the Osiris theme built into it, so it kinda amounts to the same thing).
The ancient world was full of variations on the Osiris theme. The sacrificial god that is killed, goes to the underworld, and yet "conquers death" by returning to the world of the living.

Harry is Osiris, is Jesus. He was branded symbolically (and literally) with Death-Sin, and successfully overcomes it by being the willing sacrifice (by allowing Voldemort/Death to kill him), thereby erasing the original Sin/Death and becoming stronger than Voldemort/Death. Harry "mastered Death" after acquiring the Deathly Hallows (wand, cloak, stone).

C.S. Lewis had the same idea in mind when he had Aslan willingly become the sacrificial victim of the White Witch. Tolkien had the same idea when Gandalf "sacrificed" himself to fight the balrog, allowing the others to escape.
Both Aslan and Gandalf returned from the underworld, stronger than before.

I personally like the Harry Potter books, i just can't stand a lot of the fans (primarily the liberal type)

>> No.16214135

>>16209651
Here's a New York Times article written by Christopher Hitchens which explains it pretty well https://archive.is/suv0

>> No.16214170

>>16211164
Tolkien is trash.

>> No.16214991

Not gonna lie, it looks clean to have them all in hardcover still, and in such good condition. It conveys a literary childhood.

>> No.16215395

>>16209659
And yet people still act as though there is some blanket statement that applies to all of them.

>> No.16215418

How many women have actually read the books and not just watched the films?

>> No.16215862

>>16209714
Zoomer here Percy Jackson is zoomercore. Every single friend i have has read it and most have read the sequels including the second series.

>> No.16217022

Harry Potter is to young children now what Billy Bunter and Greyfryers was to working class and middle class children in the 30s and 40s. It's a fantasy about being upper class and reinforces class sycophancy.

t. George Orwell

>> No.16217179

>>16211177
They pretend but in reality women are more hostile to trans people then men.

>> No.16217317

>>16217022

Holy shit this is it isn't it?
I grew up better off than most and I never got the fascination with Harry Potter. Jesus.

>> No.16217371

>>16209651
Ron is obviously the superior waifu.

>> No.16217575

>>16211724
coombrain
Once you start dating women you'll learn to avoid any with Harry Potter on their shelves.

>> No.16218125

>>16214035
CRINGE.
>>16214106
There is no reason to over analyze commercial fiction trash.

>> No.16218169

>>16209861
holy shit i was a shopenhauerian the whole time, great minds eh?

>> No.16218220

>>16210927
Women were half the viewership of walking dead and game of thrones. Women fantasize about rape like how men fantasize of murder doesn't mean both parties actually want too its a premeditated defense mechanism of primal fear.

>> No.16218248

>>16211178
butterfly calling something insipid is rich

>> No.16218254

>>16209651
HP is genuinely comfy. It's just overrated and given far too much praise

>> No.16218276

>>16209651
Females are simple brained and easily fall for simplistic Manichaean dualism.

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>>16210997
>BBC Sherlock
erm...

>> No.16218616

>>16210927
Harry Potter is for women. ASOIAF is for """""men""""". The Book of the New Sun is for Men.