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>> No.16198531
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16198531

ok this is literally a larp, and it looks fun as hell t b h, lets go to portland for the last week of summer

>> No.16198559

>>16198299
I DON'T WANT TO DIE
I DON'T WANT TO DIE
I DON'T WANT TO DIE
I DON'T WANT TO DIE
I DON'T WANT TO DIE
I DON'T WANT TO DIE

>> No.16198561

>>16198531
So this is the famous Civil War 2: Boogaloo.

>> No.16198572

>>16198559
My concern is more immediate. I don't want to go to work tomorrow.

>> No.16198576

>>16198561
No, actually they're Smashing The State™

>> No.16198595

>>16198561
hey man first time as tragedy, second time as farce, why shouldn't civil war 2 be an epic squirt gun fight?

>> No.16198599

I hate the heat, genuinely pisses me off because going outside is a pain in the ass and there’s bugs fucking everywhere. Can’t wait for it to be over and for it to be freezing cold and cloudy everyday again

>> No.16198612 [DELETED] 

>>16198599
i used to love the summer but as i get older i prefer the cold especially this year

>> No.16198623 [DELETED] 

>>16198599
I can't wait for the cold to kill off all the spiders in my buildings foyer. They didn't bother me that much until the mail fell into one of their webs and ended up all gross.

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16198624

Limbo of lazy productivity, but if it ain't procrastination; maybe the gnawing comes from non-vintage clothes.

>> No.16198674 [DELETED] 

>>16198299
Gotta get a job so I can buy overpriced belgian shoes, maybe I'll drop a few calories and become a model again. Also immensely dissapointed that the person that bought my old textbooks today wasn't a petit blonde dutch femboy, just a french girl, names allow for a lot of mythologising.
>>16198559
Don't you worry, ICU nurses are pretty cute, death takes a decent bit of effort, especially for someone that would rather tell the world they want to.

>> No.16198730

I'm 18, about to become 19 in a month, I have a squestion for oldfags here
Does a person grow out of the feeling of loneliness? Would the feeling of emptiness ever disappear with age? Or this unjustifiable misery? Are they just teen bullshit? I don't want to live the rest of my life with those feelings, or have them ever dominate my subjects of discussion

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>>16198572
hear, hear
iktfb

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>>16198730
Stupid question.
Did you want to hear a lie or what you already know?

>> No.16198853

>>16198730
just trick yourself into thinking that you like loneliness

>> No.16199078

>>16198730
Another person isn't going to complete you. They might complement you, and maybe you'll have a kick ass relationship; but ultimately, you are going to have to come to terms with who you are, emotionally, mentally, spiritually. This shit takes time -- the work of a lifetime, maybe. Don't let that discourage you.
I don't agree with his advice on joining the miliatry, but maybe some advice from qcurtius would be helpful? idk, it's worth a shot.
https://archive.vn/hYXu9

>> No.16199087

>>16198730
It gets worse. You're still young. Do everything you can now to set your life in order

>> No.16199138

I'm starting to seriously wonder if my disgust for promiscuity and moral degeneracy is just sour grapes behaviour.

>> No.16199199

>>16198299
What is even life, man?

>> No.16199205

>>16199199
Chances. You are given chances.
Do whatever you wan't/can with them.

>> No.16199218

>>16198730
20 yr old turning 21 this year. In my xp no it has not gotten better. When I was a freshman I thought these feelings of isolation, self-disgust, anxiety would get better with work but they're still they're same as ever. And not for a lack of effort. I somehow believed that by now I'd find friends find my place but no I am still the same as ever.

On occasion the feelings will reside in the duldrum of work, school, exercise, but they will always inevitably return. There will always be nights with no sleep blood pulsing throughout the body hands going numb as a chorus of strange thoughts, voices coagulate nonsensically and a tightness in the chest, an inescapable directionless movement of the body.

Some things do get better though.

>> No.16199249

>>16199205
It's really hard to see chances in life though they are everywhere man. Being blind to the utterly obvious is such a let down.

>> No.16199260

I'm in a pretty good place right now desu. College starts up in a week. I feel ready, I've started reading ahead. Political science is pretty interesting, but it sure is not science. In terms of establishing what's "true" I think it is close to useless, but we do learn tools that could be useful one we join the beaurocracy.

Yea I'm pretty happy. God bless you all.

>> No.16199267

>>16198299
My favorite fast food item has been discontinued once again, so I guess I'll just cook my own dinner like a fucking caveman tonight. I hope the crackheads on the bottom floor of my building aren't sitting outside the entrance getting geeked out again when I get home later. What compels someone to smoke crack anyway? Get a job dude, you're like 45 years old. How do they afford crack with no job? I wish taco bell's menu was more consistent over time.

>> No.16199275

>>16198559
praying for you anon

>> No.16199297

>>16199138
Same. Up until recently, I've always thought of myself as possessing a more refined soul than those brutes who only want sex and nothing more. But certain experiences have led me to realize: no, dipshit, you want sex just as much as every other red-blooded man, you just can't get it easily enough to admit it. That's just me, though.

>> No.16199298

>>16198730
loneliness is a very real problem. other than that, generally speaking it does get better. i seriously heard from a friend who's a doctor that one of the best things you can do for your mental health is just get older. statistically it gets better.

t. 29

>> No.16199324

>>16199199
Are we just fleshy blips in some meaningless stew of cosmic oblivion?

Or is it vice re-versa?

>> No.16199330

>please let the test be negative

>> No.16199383 [DELETED] 

>>16198299
I got all this love and no one to give it to.
~
Driving by a restaurant and seeing a group of happy people. And I am not experiencing what they are experiencing, nor the other millions of people who are having great experiences right now.
~
I fucking hate misophonia.
~
Little girls make me happy
~
If only I could keep my inevitable death on my mind at all times, I might act more correctly
~
Sometimes I wonder if it’s worth it to go to jail. Maybe jail wouldn’t even be that bad.
~
Should I embrace the moment and all its sensations, or should I focus on detachment? I would regret either decision.
~
Just a few years, and I’ll be there
~
Little girls make me happier than anything else.

>> No.16199440

>>16199383
>Should I embrace the moment and all its sensations, or should I focus on detachment? I would regret either decision.
Relate to this hard. Sometimes I like the idea that through extreme isolation I might become so detached, so alien that I gain a new insight. Othertimes I feel that it'd be better to lose myself in the carnal bliss of a passing ephemeral emotion letting myself get lost in each and every emotion, letting myself feel everything close to heart.

Meditation seems to emphasize the detached perspective being able to stand outside and rationally explain your emotions, but sometimes I think this seems like a rather dead way to live. Why not do the opposite and get lost in wild extreme states. Idk I'm ranting.

>> No.16199443

>>16199383
>Little girls make me happier than anything else.
don't do it anon. you'll burn eternally. this life is short. if things are really as they seem with you I guarantee you that you holding off will be enough to get you into heaven. don't do it, don't kill anyone, you'll be fine.

>> No.16199504 [DELETED] 

>>16199443
I just want to be around them for eternity. Drive them around, cook for them, watch movies with them, give them hugs, and snuggle and go to sleep together. Strange feelings coming together, as if I’m a father, but I’m disgusted by sexual thoughts on the topic. But I’m still sexually attracted to older “underage” girls anyway so I’m still in a tight spot

>> No.16199559

>>16199504
I mean norms vary but if they're young enough I think in terms of damage it's comparable to killing them. I think you gotta look at it like not doing anything is not neutral, not doing something is good. Every day you didn't do anything, that means you did something good. You're not pulling even. It's a hell of a hand to be dealt. are you interested in older women?

>> No.16199564

>>16199504
that's borderline weird but not too weird, get yourself a gf with neotenous features and you'll be just fine

>> No.16199565

>>16199275
Prayer is a good thing, but I think anon might need a therapist as well. Sounds like a panic attack, or something. :(

>> No.16199572

>>16199275
meant for >>16199267

>> No.16199599
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>No fun allowed!
I think this guy took the hate of everything profane too far.

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>>16198299
Isn't fantasy football just gacha for sports fans?

>> No.16199631 [DELETED] 

>>16199559
I’m attracted to girls my age, but it’s mostly just physical. Idk, I could come up with various explanations for what my problem is. Maybe I like a power difference, maybe I subconsciously feel like I’m committing adultery by being with a girl well past initial fertility (and why is she not taken already?), maybe it’s because I like virginity, or maybe I don’t like older girls’ personalities that much, or maybe they’re just not that cute. I’m hoping things will be easier when I’m older and more independent and I might be primarily interested in legal girls. Girls my age show interest in me all the time, but I just feel uneasy about it. When a cute young girl looks at me I am totally consumed

>> No.16199680

>>16199631
I think there's a lot of room for things to happen along the way. maybe you meet someone that makes you see things differently, who knows.

>> No.16199723

>>16199631
Or maybe you are a stunted manchild

>> No.16199739

Goo-a-non

>> No.16199748 [DELETED] 

>>16199723
even if I had the development of a teenage boy, I wouldn’t be any more dangerous than they are, but most people don’t see this plainly

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16200245

Will time prove him right?

>> No.16200284

>>16200245
No way. The holocaust brought only bad things from any point of view. Even if you are a nazi.
He also made impossible any serious public discussion of fascism even if some of its versions (like traditionalism) are perfectly morally ok even from a modern liberal standpoint.

>> No.16200314

>>16200245
No.

>> No.16200332

We all know one can defy one's immediate will, but to evade the scope of one's will entirely sounds impossible outside of inconsequential actions like which pant leg to put on first. What am I going to do tomorrow? Whatever looks most appealing. If we could free ourselves from the chains of personal desire, we could become a vehicle for absolutely anything. But bitterly, humans are stuck as slaves to their own immediate wants, their motivation, their energy levels, and so many others we can influence but not control. It seems to me that to really make the most of life, one has to find a way to "cheat" this system, and either make their will a slave to a singular purpose and enforce it like a tyrant (extremely difficult), or devise techniques to manipulate the targets chosen by will, to synthesize motivation through trial and error, and to cultivate a mental state with a specific aim toward eliminating all emotional barriers (much easier). It feels nice when the will cooperates with us, but this is the equivalent of an inmate looking fondly on the guard when he's let outside for an hour. Unless we fight it, we'll all be slaves to it until we die.

>> No.16200337

The more I think about it the more it's becoming obvious that we are truly living in Kali Yuga.

>> No.16200559

>>16199138
Obviously. Your copes fool no one except yourself.

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I strongly desire to be desired but it seems like i am not looking for a wife but for a mother to take care of me.I don t want to be a begger of love i just wan't to be glorious and be appreciated for my vertues.
My brain don't want to work.I wish it is bcs i am sleepy.
Good night anon.

>> No.16200622

>>16200618
I actually give a name it was schamyl

>> No.16200623

>>16200618
First virtue you could strive for is learning how to spell.

>> No.16200638

jesus christ not this reddit manga again

>> No.16200651

>>16200623
Sorry i am french (its not an excuse but euuh...)
How can i learn to spell in english

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Money and masturbation. Making crude collages of women I know with hentai. Googling if helping people is paid well enough to bother. Posing for pictures to put myself into futa porn fucking women I used to know. Doing the maths on if a 5 or 6 figure salary is appropriate for my vices of cigarettes, whiskey, and maison margiela shoes. Masturbating handsfree while reading the terms and conditions of photo editing software.

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>>16198730
I think loneliness will be (y)our smallest problem considering that our generation will have to face the dramatic effects of man-made climate change and the seemingly endless spiral of neoliberalism that is crushing our social security. The future is being taken away from us and there's hardly anything we can do stop it.
Do what you can to enjoy your life. Neither me nor you can stop these things from happening just by becoming ethical consumers. Either wait for the revolution or take the blackpill, that is our only choice. Amen brother

>> No.16201141

>>16198559
asuka?

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I got no hoes, no job, no money and no goals. All in all, about doing alright.

>> No.16201206

being in love is amazing

>> No.16201219

>>16200667
>Making crude collages of women I know with hentai
Mind posting some?

>> No.16201227

What's the line between healthy detachment and carrying on what's worth preserving in life?

>> No.16201352

>>16201159
Same, almost turned out homeless last month but I pulled through. Genuinely wondering if things would be better if I was in prison or something (I'm scandi) where my life has more structure. I live in garbage with the cunning of a rat, getting by day by day but it's not a life that any man should live.

>> No.16201355

>>16200697
Not by becoming ethical consumers, but waiting for a revolution that won't happen or taking the blackpill sounds bad. There's a lot of things you can do, and violence works.

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The whole tranny thing really happened fast, I wonder if it was a test to see how fucking retarded we really are and how advanced the spiritual decay is

>> No.16201538

>>16201458
A punished man.

>> No.16201545

>>16200245
It already did but no one dares say it aloud except to themselves or online.

>> No.16201558

>>16198730
You never grow out of it. The worst thing you can do is lie to yourself that everything will work out. I did that up until my mid-30s when I suddenly realized my predicament. I was a complete social failure and now too set in my ways to do anything meaningful about it.

>> No.16201593

>>16198730
Things change and you will not feel the same forever. Quite literally you are still growing and your brain is still developing, for me it wasn't until about I was 23 that I began to feel myself 'mature' - which doesn't mean that all your problems or the loneliness goes away, but you get much much better at dealing with it. It doesn't disappear, but the pain feels gradually less acute.

However with that said you can't just sit around and let life pass you by. The deeper the rut becomes the harder it is to claw your way out of it - not impossible, but harder. My recommendation is to commit yourself seriously and sincerely to self-improvement in small ways. You don't want to end up accidentally identifying with your loneliness or emptiness. I think many people here derive some jouissance from their own misery, which in turn serves as a barrier to self-improvement.

>> No.16201612

>>16201458
The gap between social 'revolutions' is minimising at an exponential rate. French to Russian, Civil Rights to Gay Rights, Gay Rights to Trans Rights, Trans Rights to... well, we'll find out in a year or two

>> No.16201629

>>16200697
Declining social security is a legitimate problem, climate change is a meme.

>> No.16201650
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16201650

>For the world is Hell, and men are on the one hand the tormented souls and on the other the devils in it.
I used to be an atheist, but over the last few years I've come to know God so intimately that, while I do acknowledge that he exists, I cannot in good conscience think highly of him. The biggest redpill ever is to realize, unlike what you've been lead to believe, Evil is not distinct from God. it's a big part of him.

>> No.16201657

When I was 17 I was really in love with my brother's girlfriend's sister. She was really beautiful but damaged. When she went to the Jersey shore with her friends after prom, she was sent home after she was found wading out into the Atlantic in the middle of the night. I didn't hear any details about the incident, but it was intimated that she was trying to kill herself. At the time I was sad, not as sad as I am now, but in the way high school-aged boys often are. Talking to her I felt less lonely in my sadness. I remember the time she visited us with her sister and she and I stayed up talking all night and fell asleep on the same pullout couch in the living room in the early morning. Even now as an adult it's the closest feeling I've had to loving a woman, though no promises were made and nothing physical happened. The next day we were invited to a beautiful old house on the waterfront owned by a business friend of my mother's. We all dressed up for the occasion. I think I wore an oxford shirt and seersucker pants and she wore a sun dress. We drank wine there, even though we were underage. The hostess was an art dealer and had no qualms. We were drinking, standing on the lawn, which led down to the bay, watching the sunset. I told her that it would all be downhill from that moment. And it really was. Twenty years later, that moment is still the best of my life.

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I hate these cunts

>> No.16201741

>>16201458
>Maybe the Soviets were right after all...

>> No.16201752

>https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trump-campaign-announces-president-trumps-2nd-term-agenda-fighting-for-you

>> No.16201823 [DELETED] 

It's weird, but the quality of documentation for Apple APIs has really gone down since Steve Jobs died. Like, do you remember the "Quartz 2D Programming Guide"? That thing was so comfy I got a copy printed out and bound at a print shop. Now you read the docs for graphics programming and Apple platforms, and it's just some random lists of inits and shit that I could just as easily get to by clicking "jump to definition" in Xcode. Actually, that's better because sometimes the programmers left comments in the headers, while the documentation is nothing. Metalkit is so much better than Vulkan, it should be a pleasure to work with, but god damn it, can a company worth 2 trillion dollars not hire someone to write complete documentation? Oh, and the Metalkit sample projects are only available in Objective-fucking-C. It says "Swift", but when I download them, yup, its Objective-C.

>> No.16201830

>>16201657
This is a sweet story anon, even if it is sad.

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Went on discord for a week and felt the worst i have in months, I deleted the piece of trash and am now back to reading comfy books.

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I need recs for mothersonincest smut.

I just wasted 6 hours reading something that I thought was a gold mine. Possibly a few of my greatest fetishes: vampires, french accents, and mother romance, and the story just turns into convoluted psuedo scifi horse shit after the first act or so, and the mom got absolutely shafted for a bitch with zero personality for the whole time. Everything else on that god forsaken website is basically fucking intolerable trailer park shit. I'm fucking livid. What a waste.

>> No.16202425

>>16201699
That sort of interaction always feels fake
>>16202260
99% of smut is terrible so good luck
You can always try writing your own like I did

>> No.16202457
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Skinks and slothsome
Shrink from dachshunds
Leap when founds thum
Shriek when pounce thum

>> No.16202477

I still feel outsider in the group even after 10 months spent together. Its more of a 4+1 than 5 person group. They wouldnt understand even if i'd tell them about it, thats why im thinking about gradually distancing myself from them. Its not like they'd notice.

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>>16198299
Lately I've been having doubts. I've let my life take a nosedive. Everything is a mess. I know how to fix it. Read my textbooks, finish University. But I am afraid. I am afraid because I don't know what follows next. There is no path before me that I can see clearly. There is an idea, some kind of abstraction, of the man I'd like to be. The problem is that it's a long road to there, and I am not sure if it's possible for me to reach that goal. On the event that I could, I worry about it. Because, you see, I do not want to be a "good" man; I want to be a "great" one. Yet, these thoughts in my head, they bother me. No, I'm not a homicidal maniac fighting the urges. I'm thinking "grand", I'm thinking "in scale". But, the truth is, I'm afraid of judgement. I'm afraid of God. I'm afraid of eternity and torment. Now, I believe what I believe. The natural laws that dictate our lives, the few rules I've set out for myself. I have a, what could be called, "ultimate goal". I believe that what I would ideally like to do with my life, to be the correct course of action. I believe that it would yield great results and help the world. But at the same time, it is no way "good". If God, the kind and loving but judgemental God I know, put me on the stand, I would surely be cast to the lakes of fire. And that scares me, it really does.

And so I am faced with these choices. I can simply give up. Shed my ego. Finish my studies and try desperately to settle in a "good" life. The problem is that I am a man of extremes. So if I concede, I've failed. And I would not be able to survive in such an environment. Because I'd never feel worthy enough. And nobody deserves to be stuck with me in such a state... My other choice is to give in to my ego and "chase the dragon". Try and make a "change". No, I'm not looking to go all Uncle Ted. I intend to play by the "Rules Of The Game". Will I manage to come out victorious? Maybe. Probably not; the numbers are not with me. But I want to try. The problem is, like I've already said, Divine Judgement terrifies me. My politics, my philosphies, my codes, they're rather... complicated. I am most surely alone in this whirpool of beliefs. So I have to make this journey alone. Could I?

I don't know anymore. I feel all these extremes in me, and I believe them to be "right", but some days I miss the certainty of being morally strict, naive, not seeking anything more than "to do research". And now I just debate what I would need to become, angsting over the end. I don't know. I'm afraid.

>> No.16202569

>>16198299
Ok, I'll roll with this.
Will /lit/ provide the very descriptive erotica Im triying to find?
Todays meatloaf was amazing, kuddos to me.
I hope thursday is as magical as the other days I went out.

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>>16202540
Dive in. Fear no gods.
I’ve reset my dreams many times. Don’t let them break your heart. Like actual dreams, the path shifts in life

>> No.16202617

halooooiiiaaaaaiiiaiaiayayayyyaAAAAAAAHHHHH!!! AAAAH COME ON!
feels good

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>>16199138
>>16199297
For me it's the opposite. When I started seeing the true world, and having those thoughts and feelings, I was sure that it was an expression of my low self-worth. I was recognizing that I hated them because I obviously was left out. I angst over it. It evolved into feelings of inferiority, masturbation habits and tastes changed, and I was spiralling further into the abyss. I hated them for having what I didn't, I seethed, so to my mind the obvious answer was that "yes, you cowardly subhuman, you seethe at what you call degeneracy because you cannot even partake in its most natural of forms". But then I started thinking about it. I looked at it biologically, socially. I looked inwards and saw myself "naked". And I managed to reconcile the two sides of me. The one hating such people because I missed out on certain "steps into adulthood", and the one hating them because they didn't fit with my ideal society and behaviour. And you know what I realized? Some amount of "degeneracy", or of simple cold truths, is needed. But it needs to be controlled, regulated, fitted within the confines of the moral society. Because if you control even the "rebellion", the "outcast", then you truly have the world in your hands.

I recognize that I feel a certain grudge towards people who had sex as teens, who've had girlfriends and have natural love lives. That seething does stem from missed chances and my personal failures. But my hatred for the utter degenerates, for the normalization of the outcast, for even the perversion of the rebel, that stems from moral stances. It has nothing to do with some personal handicap; it's simply the sane response to a maddening world. So no, it's not "sour grapes". It is what it is.

Try some true introspection and you'll see it for yourselves. Afterwards, you shall be free. For now I don't care. Sure, I missed on pure romance. I missed on college life. I do not have any such stories. But it doesn't matter. Because I never would've been that man anyhow. In another time, maybe things would've turned out differently. But it's alright. I keep moving towards the only direction there is; forward. And my disgust for the morally empty mongrels has nothing to do with my lament of a lost period.

Sometimes you have to fling yourself into the abyss and self destruct, but if you weather the storm, you'll come out with a more complete view of the world, and with more faith in (you).

>> No.16202668

>>16198299
Why i am the way i am?

>> No.16202683 [DELETED] 

Little girls are precious
Little girls are sweet
Little girls are gracious
Little girls are a treat!

>> No.16202700

>>16202683
What grandma considers shock value doesnt necessarily make something interesting. This is genuinely boring stuff.

>> No.16202712 [DELETED] 

>>16202700
Seething.

>> No.16202714

>>16202712
Another low-impact formulaic effort.

>> No.16202717 [DELETED] 

>>16202714
>i'm not fuming at all
>will respond at least 50 times trying to convince people not to post things that upset him
So very see-through.

>> No.16202721

>>16202683
based
>>16202700
cringe
>>16202717
lol nail on head

>> No.16202723

chimps are wigging out again

wisconsin this time

>> No.16202724

>>16202717
>him
Anon don't you realize? It's either a woman or a very feminine man (likely the former).

>> No.16202740

>>16202724
I still assume there's no girls on the internet but that's a woefully outdated with smartphones. You're probably right and it's a femoid facing the harsh reality all she has to offer the world is her youth.

>> No.16202744

>>16202740
*a woefully outdated idea

>> No.16202764
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>>16202572
I don't subscribe to Stirner. I believe that there are things that are right, and things that are wrong. I believe in natural laws and in the world of forms that sits above. The problem is just that I find my beliefs to clash with my preconcieved states of what is "good" and what is "bad". I know something is "right", my goal, my "mission", but at the same time it's not the widely accepted version of "good". I am no sociopath or psychopath, I cannot simply brush my feelings aside and the ear eats me up inside. But I cannot merely forget it all and pretend.
>reset my dreams many times
For me it is just a slow progression from one point to another, and I think I've reached the endgame of the nature of my goals.

>> No.16202790
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16202790

I cannot teach the boy.

>> No.16202853

>>16202572
>Dive in. Fear no gods.
I fear man more than I do gods desu.

>> No.16202895

>>16202853
lol why fear man they bleed. go in on them if you have to.

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16203001

God damn another genital wart. I just got three frozen off a few months ago. Oh well, not like I'm fucking this year anyway.

>> No.16203025

>>16202895
>t. increasingly nervous god

>> No.16203113

>be me
>first ever generation of boys raised with high-speed internet and porn
>insecure kid, khv at 19, first year of uni
>meet qt asian girl
>make out on her 18th birthday
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>taxi home, we're gonna fug
>on the bed with her, she spreads her legs, I position between her
>nothing happens
>dick soft
>can't put it in
>don't understand what's going on
>decide to eat her out in the meantime
>omg its a pussy, feelsgoodman
>go back to try penetration, dick still soft
>she remarks that it's smaller than the guy's down the hallway
>feel bad, real bad
>we sleep

>> No.16203124

>>16203113
>4 years later
>many such incidents with many different girls
>still hopelessly impotent for the most part
>contemplated suicide often
>realise I have porn induced ED
>realise I never had a chance, porn preyed on my insecurity from childhood
>feel broken
>am broken
>just wanted love
>the game was rigged from the start

>> No.16203127

>>16203124
>be active in right-wing tumblr community
>feel understood
>some nice trad girls
>keep them in mind while improving myself and working to overcome my addiction
>see a post
>”i hope all men who can’t get hard bc of porn die alone and sexless. Women deserve better”
>a few of my trad tumblr crushes reblog this
>either women are heartless harpies
>or am I simply unworthy of compassion
>either way, it’s about time I killed myself

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>>16203127
>giving a fuck about women
>at the time in history when women are practically wild animals on an unlimited supply of methamphetamine

Do you have a "crush" too?

>> No.16203225

I’ve probably jacked off like five times-
>Those are rookie numbers
I’ve jacked off ten times today sprayed my nuts on gangbangs hidden cameras and hentai bitches whipped my own refractory period into submission bridged the valley of my petite mort for the cosmos to wink its lid reality’s cinema to bend calcified blood to chug manifested an avatar of Rocky Balboa the way I’m pounding my meat so FINALLY

I can get some goddamned sleep.

>> No.16203294

Hmm, lit gone down, i used to remember this place to be more intellectual

>> No.16203307

how to hide tremours

>> No.16203356

>>16203307
look up ashwagandha

>> No.16203380

>>16199267
Think of all the great literature you could write on crack though.

>> No.16203404

>>16200337
Agreed. How screwed are we, bros?

>> No.16203419

>>16202683
Mods ban the pedo, please

>> No.16203638

I have the will to power
in other words I'm a manipulative asshole playing God

fuck.

>> No.16203730

wow that thugger that got shot by the cops in wisconsin had five fucking kids! too bad he was domestically violent and non-compliant with law enforcement.

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16203745

the only people that grow old might be cowards not worth respecting the collective might be stupid but individuals telling them what to feel could probably be worst for the continuation of humanity

>> No.16203974

>>16203730
idgi why these people can't stay calm and not be retarded, they know by now what happens

>> No.16204127

>>16199267
Yeah I don't get crack. I guess it's just cheap and addictive and I imagine there's a great deal of self destructive thinking that leads to the decision to start smoking crack. But like every other drug has some obvious appeal to me that crack doesn't. Guess I'm too sheltered... now I feel like browsing the erowid forums

>> No.16204140

>>16203974
the funny thing is that guy got arrested before for pointing a gun at people in a bar, and in that case the cops had to sic a police dog on him, he really likes to push his luck and instigate shit

>> No.16204406

Just realised the underside of my left thigh is completely hairless, though the same can't be said for my right. The rest of my body is very hairy.

>> No.16204444

>>16204406
it's because when you sit you put your right leg over your left and the pressure/friction underneath your left leg kills the hair growth

>> No.16204451

>>16204444
Damn nice quads brother

>> No.16204489

>>16202621
unfathomably fucking based
/lit/ really does surprise me sometimes

>> No.16204494

I feel like there is no choice but to accept that since you are a human you are going to be an asshole. I think the reason why some mystics feel closer to crooks and thieves than "respectable company" is because crooks and thieves wear the fact that they're assholes on the outsie, whereas respectable people fight to hide it, which makes it worse. being human there is no choice but to be an asshole, more or less (hell, Jesus even says that only God is good- ie that Jesus himself is not good). It's a crooked way to view the world, thinking that you can aspire to perfection. You are Gods slave, that He might try your heart. I have such a hard time accepting this, and at the same time I can see that there is evil in me. It has become more and more apparent to me in what ways I am most selfish (I hope, maybe there are worse things yet to find). And yet I can't let go of this earthly personality. I think this would be the end-goal of mysticism: the destruction of tha t erathly personality. My problem is if I stop fighting myself and start embracing a more whole sense of self... I don't fear that God would not forgive. I do fear that I would stop asking for forgiveness. And then I would truly be fucked, I think. But maybe I am now too. I actually had series of days a couple of weeks ago where it really felt like God gave me the offer to surrender myself -completely- to Him. It seemed to me like a death, and I didn't dare do it. I wouldn't go, I held on to this material world and the sense of being a baron in a puddle, rather than being free in submission.. I lacked the faith. But God is the gentle, the merciful. Life is nothing more than God teaching us to love Him. There is time, God willing, there is time.

>> No.16204511

>>16198299
In this moment, I am broken. Not because I possess some depressed intellect, but because I am suffocated by my complete mediocrity.

>> No.16204516

>>16204511
This is the outcome of the self-esteem movement where every child is taught they special, then they grow up and find out they aren't special.

>> No.16204524

>>16198299
i hate myself and I don't know how not to.

>> No.16204539

>>16198559
It's okay, anon.
Death is inevitable. The more you're afraid, the worse it is. You exist, and you will have existed, no matter what happens. It's an unchangeable fact of the universe, even if there's no evidence left behind.

>> No.16204563

>>16204524
I think it's all about what you have chosen to sacrifice your life to. By necessity, since we are all dying, and since we are all trying to achieve one thing or another, we are de-facto giving a burnt offering of ourselves to something. Maybe what you're burning for is doing you harm when it could be doing you good?

Another possibility is loneliness. Loneliness has strange and very far-reaching affects on human beings. I think the way to break it is to allow yourself to be vulnerable with another person. I really don't know why, but it seems like human beings can never feel truly safe unless there is at least someone out there rooting for us. If we know that there is a safe harbor anywhere, that's good enough, but if we don't have that it really fucks us over. Try telling someone how you feel anon. Don't give up if they react callously, you gotta keep looking.

>> No.16204573

>>16204563
>I think it's all about what you have chosen to sacrifice your life to.
what I mean by this is: your understanding of what your life is defines what is a good or a bad outcome. these things are not objective realities, they're social constructs.

>> No.16204635

>>16204563
I'm not lonely, at least it's that. I don't have a lot of friends, but the ones I do have are close and loyal. I have a good relationship with my family, and they support me and are proud of me, even though I don't think they have anything to be proud of.

It's that I can't be proud of myself. If its societal pressure, of emotional neuroses, I have this compulsion to contribute, or create, and no matter how hard I try, I'm unsatisfied. Maybe I have talent, maybe not, but right now I'm a day-drinking NEET that sits at home all day and collects disability and desperately tries to finish even a single one of my ~200 WIPs while my anhedonia whittles away at all the talents I might have.

I know, intellectually, that I shouldn't be, that capitalism, and mental issues, and blah, blah blah. All the legitimate reasons why, or why not, I know that, but emotionally I can't accept it or let go. Emotionally, I just hate myself. I don't know how to fix it.

I just want to be proud of something.

>> No.16204757

>>16198299
28 years and nothing.

>> No.16204763

>>16204757
god same. I'm turning 30 this year.

>> No.16204813

>>16204763
How do you cope with all this? I want to put the blame on my mental quirks but i know its just an excuse for deep rooted cowardice.

>> No.16204827

>>16204757
at least you're still in your 20s.
36...I am forgotten.

>> No.16204829

>>16204813
fuck man, are you me?
I don't know. I "cope" by drinking and spending all day staring at an open word document and not writing.

>> No.16204902

>>16204635
that's good to hear, that you have a good social network.

Can you think of anything that, if that were done, it would give you peace of mind?

>> No.16204931

>>16204757
>>16204813
>>16204829
I just write brainlessly until I can write confidently
no need to keep what you write
no need to write in the same continuity - i think of it like an athlete stretching prior to their real work out / game / event or whatever
it's a little different to posting here however because I don't devote the same focus that I would to writing something creatively

>> No.16204948

>>16204902
>Can you think of anything that, if that were done, it would give you peace of mind?
I want to- I want to think that if I finish a novel, or paint a magnum opus, or something like that, I'll be satisfied, but realistically, it won't help, because I wouldn't be satisfied. All my successes until now only frustrated me more, because I thought I was being pandered to, or the people that judged me just didn't know what they were talking about. If I got a job, and worked 40 hours a week and contributed that way, I'd just be miserable and hate myself because I'd feel like I'd given up, and accepted being a failure.

I'm just super lucky I live in a country with robust social aid, or I'd be fucked.

Even though I feel miserable, I try to keep myself busy, even if I think it's useless. I do a bunch of projects.

But no matter what I do, it just doesn't help.

Rationally, I know it's because I just hate myself. It doesn't actually have anything to do with what I do, or don't do. It's just some fucked up thing from my childhood. I can't satisfy it. If I became a millionaire through hard work, it'd be a voice telling me that I'm a dumbshit, and if I had real talent, I'd be a trillionaire.

>> No.16204983

>>16204827
What happened old man? Failed or never tried?

>> No.16204992

>>16203419
Little girls are for love.

>> No.16205017

>>16204948
I feel exactly like you do anon, and I had the same realization that nothing I do will make me satisfied because I am unsatisfied with myself. I try to see the beauty in the little simple things, and I realize that while its a common thing to ask of people, very few do, and fewer do with true intent. Just go for a walk around and be aware of what you see with all your senses, or attentively eat plain food, and watch how absolutely no one else really cares. It doesn't necessarily inspire creativity or ideas, or depending on your ailment it might not produce any interesting things to share with others, but it does make being alive worth something. Turn this bland pain into something sharp, hone it over years of torment and make something that is worth being just for its own sake.

>> No.16205153

>>16204948
I'm a muslim, and it's interesting coming here because you're faced with honesty from so many unhappy people. From the perspective of my tradition, I would say your problem is that you're looking for God where He is not to be found. Our understanding is that life fundamentally comes down to a simple choice: either you crown something from your earthly life as your "lord"- which will inevidably leave you disappointed and dejected, as all things, like yourself, are created with their own place and purpose, and so they can not truly help you: whatever they are is whatever Allah made for them to be- or you submit to your Lord, and find peace. "Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest." (13:28) Implied that *only* in the remembrance of Allah. And why Allah? I think because Allah can by definition be said to exist, but He is al-Qayyum: all things depend upon Him, but He depends not upon them. Allah is truly the greatest mystery... Ultimately it can not be put into words why, because man is not in control of God, but something in us recognizes a supreme goodness when we seek Him. When it is recognized, something intuitive and inherent to the heart finally finds rest... Much more than a man in the clouds, God truly is the most wonderful mystery, unlike all other.

I think the human heart yearns, always, for a purpose. And I think every conceivable purpose other than a life given over to God will disappoint in this life, and will leave a more bitter taste as death draws near. And what God really asks is that we strive to treat eachother excellently, and that we worship Him alone. I believe your problem stems from a sickness of the heart, where you have taken something other than God as your god.

>> No.16205305

>>16205153
in this Islam is more like something like Daoism: the goal is giving yourself back to the all pervading principle

>> No.16205490

>>16205153
I don't really know how to respond to this. I understand religion, and don't begrudge others their religion. To believe that your life has purpose is a wonderful thing.

But I don't believe that. Personally, I imagine that the Universe itself is like god: it's objective, above all, and it "knows" everything, regardless of what we, as humans think or believe. I couldn't believe in any other kind of higher entity than the universe itself.

I try to think in a way that is universally applicable, regardless of culture or religion. I like to think that, intellectually, I'm pretty good at it. But, emotionally, I'm like a child, or I want to satisfy some childhood needs that I was denied when I was young. And that is stronger that the intellectual knowledge I have. Emotion is stronger than logic. I don't know how to fix that.

>> No.16205506

>>16205153
Not Muslim but I generally agree with this. Whether God is real or just a psychological need, which I don't pretend to know myself, either way it seems true.

>> No.16205532

>>16204931
>no need to keep what you write
I mean, I keep everything. But that's unimportant.

I think I'm picking up what you're putting down, but I have so many ideas, and I haven't been able to finish a single one. Even if I think of that as a "warm up", eventually if you don't actually manage a thing, then what are you warming up for?

>> No.16205549

I will fuck you

>> No.16205575

>>16204494
Interesting ideas, anon. Have you considered that the reason why God expects us to be imperfect is because we live in the fallen machine of his making, and being physical creatures of flesh in a horizontal existence, have no choice but to divert to sin?
Just as interesting, Jesus did say that it was best for man to strive towards perfection (Matthew 5:48) while espousing the view of man as fundamentally imperfect. I think the result is that man truly is only absolved of everything in God, but as His children we have been called to work to be perfect just as He is perfect.
But, because of all that has been written I do not believe that we, here on earth, may attain 'celestial' perfection, rather only an earthly one. And I do not even think this earthly perfection, or the preparation of ourselves is wholly in the definition of a purging of our flaws or hidden nature of being an asshole, I think it's in fundamentally understanding ourselves enough to let whatever good nature we have present to flow freely. Like how Jung said it was better to be whole without perfect, the earthly perfection is becoming whole.
Knowing when to turn the other cheek or hold the tongue, working good even in the face of a mortal existence, and the development of all talents which God gifts us with. That is the earthly perfection we are called to.

>> No.16205579

this year was utter shit

>> No.16205597

>>16205490
time, probably. If you're patient I'm sure there will come an opening along the way.

>> No.16205630

>>16205575
>the earthly perfection is becoming whole
this sounds true

>> No.16205637

>>16205579
especially considering that last year was a good year (at least for me personally)

>> No.16205653

>>16205637
last year was alright

>> No.16205709

I want a boyfriend

>> No.16205719

Sometimes I feel like I'm lying to myself, that I read and study for the sake of impressing others, while in reality I just do it for no reason at all, I can't see myself doing anything besides it but the feeling of hypocrisy, the feeling that I'm lying to myself, the feeling of being a pseud haunts me.

>> No.16205736

I really want a bf from on here, goddammit, but I honestly don't think anyone would want an LDR

>> No.16205749

>>16205709
>>16205736
you m or f?

>> No.16205785

>>16205749
21 f

>> No.16205834

>>16202621
Nice. What do you do for introspection? Journal and dialogue?

>> No.16205850

>>16205785
where ya from

>> No.16205864

>>16205709
>>16205736
Make a hookup thread, there was one last winter and people got together.

>> No.16205870

>>16205850
south asia but i'm not objectively ugly

>> No.16205995

>>16205870
post email or smth

>> No.16206015

>>16205870
wait why did you say that? are you implying that south asians are objectively ugly? lol

>> No.16206022

>>16205995
wastoid02@gmail

>> No.16206029

>>16206022
are you currydoomer?

>> No.16206030

>>16206015
i don't think so but i see a lot of people on here say it. there's just generally a negative opinion of people from my country online

>> No.16206038

>>16206029
i had to google that and no i've never used tiktok but i'm indian as well

>> No.16206060

>>16206030
so you're indian then? ok I kinda understand. I don't think they're inherently ugly but the smell is just so off-putting desu... idek where that comes from but most indians just smell.

>> No.16206075

there used to be procedures to minimize this incel-baiting

>> No.16206076

>>16206060
i really wonder what the fuck pajeets overseas are doing for the reputation to have gotten like this

>> No.16206097

>>16206076
Im pretty sure it's just diet. Some races think white people smell like milk or something, I forget what it was exactly, but it was due to diet.

>> No.16206121

>>16203745
>the collective might be stupid
“Might be”? Any collection of humanity is, by definition, stupid.
> individuals telling them what to feel
“them”? as in, your “collective”?
That part you most definitely got right. You can’t teach a fool…
>the continuation of humanity
We serve at the pleasure of Almighty God. Personally, I don’t like “our” chances. “individual” results may vary, or not, as the case may be.

>> No.16206125

>>16206075
not my intention here i'm just lonely these days

>> No.16206165

>>16206097
it's completely genetic, if you're ever unfortunate enough to spend time around niggers you'll notice that they have a distinct odor, and that it's probably very unpleasant if they don't reek of cocoa butter

>> No.16206203
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16206203

I hate how ugly the postmodern soundscape is. You can't listen to birds chirping without some stupid cars ruining the atmosphere. You wake up in the morning and want to listen to grass dancing in the breeze? Fuck you, here is wagie driving his stupid volkswagen to not get late for work.
It is so annoying and unpleasant to listen to. The sound of a car passing by is flat, rough and lacks texture. I hope the gretas in the world win this whole climate change fight so that car drivers can fuck right off. God fuck I hate the city and its inevitable limitations.

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>>16204489
Thanks. I haven't been here in a long time, really. I've recently gotten back on the saddle.
>>16205834
I've never kept a journal. I've been meaning to, but... As for introspection, I don't know, it just happens. I always play Devil's Advocate to all my beliefs, ideas, etc. The real "revelation" was understanding that sometimes it doesn't even matter and you have to push through with will to power, regardless of the more "logical" or "good" choice. I try to always be critical of myself so as not to fall on the trap of becoming a cliche. Also, it's an ego thing. If I judge myself harshly, then that means I'm better than the delusional idiots who are drunk on their own pride. This therefore means that I'm better than them and justifies my own Pride and Ego. It's a loophole to excuse my own sins, a paradox. But it doesn't matter.

>> No.16206234

>>16201699
Sweet christ

>> No.16206275

Is it possible to forgive yourself for doing something bad to someone who is no longer in your life while they were in your life?

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16206363

>>16206076
Insult me, I'm bored. I don't want to go to /soc/ because it seems depraved. Peace

>> No.16206404

>>16206363
you're not ugly, just kinda average lookin

>> No.16206519

>>16203974
That’s my big thing with all of this, how often are police truly racist and being aggressive towards a passive, agreeable, black person following orders as best he can?

Most of the footage I see these people freak the fuck out and make the entire situation worse. Just do what he fucking says don’t give him a reason to shoot you please

>> No.16206557

>>16206203
That’s a really good point, the soundscape does fucking suck

>> No.16206560

>>16203974
the problem is that nothing stops mental retards from becoming cops and the training is way too short in burgerland which results in these insecure brainlets abusing their authority as a hobby and taking out their racist fears onto people for no reason

>> No.16206589

>>16198299
I don’t know how I feel about this girl I’m seeing. 23 kv so nice experience with this, one of my friends compared it to a crush I had back in college, that was only a year ago but don’t remember how I felt. I do know I was more physically attracted to that person then I am this one. Maybe that’s the difference. I’m a shallow piece of shit. We get a long great and are pretty similar, but I’m just not physically attracted to her at all. Fuck me. Why am I like this

>> No.16206627

>>16206363
Post your cock and favourite book.

>> No.16206676

>>16206560
>racist fears
cops become racist from dealing with niggers all the time.

>> No.16206756
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16206756

I should’ve sent that email months ago, I fucking hate sending emails

>> No.16206764

Why do feminists hate male virgins so much? Before terms like incel were popularized, even way before the manosphere started gaining traction there were so many feminist bloggers practically foaming at the mouth at the idea that men were sometimes sad about tfw no gf.

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So, get this guys:
Some people really want to write. They write in their spare time, they write at school, they write before bed and when they wake up in the morning. Very good! To pursue one's artistic passions is admirable.
Some may be good, and some may not. Both get published in the high school literary journal, where acceptance is mandatory, but plenty of people outgrow their childhood fantasies and realize they are not cut out to be artists by the time they reach college.
Yet some writers of objectively abysmal quality choose to delude themselves into thinking that an artistic sense can be taught in a classroom! Instead of studying science or programming or anything marketable, and leaving the frilly nonsense of art as a side interest, they pursue an English degree with a focus in creative writing!
Then, get this, after saddling themselves with 200k in college debt, and still not being able to secure employment or even a trickle of freelance work, what do these dreamers do? Do they reevaluate their own potential while changing course is still an option? Of course not!
They pursue an MFA in creative writing. They choose to sit in classrooms for two more years, thinking that a little more theory and a little more nose-to-the-grindstone will make them into artists.
Assuming one enters a respectable program, they have just added another 100k in debt to their tab, the first 200k of which they have not even begun to pay off because they were busy dicking around at art school!
What is worse than the wasted time and money?
The fact that, after all that, they STILL CAN'T WRITE FOR SHIT.
[Spoiler] But they will still always put M.F.A. in their twitter bio, their linkedin, and in every query letter they send. [/Spoiler]
Cracks me up every time.

>> No.16206807

>>16206764
>Why do feminists hate male virgins so much?
I think it's because they find them unattractive and find their advances damaging to their self-image. If they can be sorted from the rest of society, they won't have to interact with them at all.

>> No.16206821
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16206821

So, get this guys:
Some people really want to write. They write in their spare time, they write at school, they write before bed and when they wake up in the morning. Very good! To pursue one's artistic passions is admirable.
Some may be good, and some may not. Both get published in the high school literary journal, where acceptance is mandatory, but plenty of people outgrow their childhood fantasies and realize they are not cut out to be artists by the time they reach college.
Yet some writers of objectively abysmal quality choose to delude themselves into thinking that an artistic sense can be taught in a classroom! Instead of studying science or programming or anything marketable, and leaving the frilly nonsense of art as a side interest, they pursue an English degree with a focus in creative writing!
Then, get this, after saddling themselves with 200k in college debt, and still not being able to secure employment or even a trickle of freelance work, what do these dreamers do? Do they reevaluate their own potential while changing course is still an option? Of course not!
They pursue an MFA in creative writing. They choose to sit in classrooms for two more years, thinking that a little more theory and a little more nose-to-the-grindstone will make them into artists.
Assuming one enters a respectable program, they have just added another 100k in debt to their tab, the first 200k of which they have not even begun to pay off because they were busy dicking around at art school!
What is worse than the wasted time and money?
The fact that, after all that, they STILL CAN'T WRITE FOR SHIT.
But they will still always put M.F.A. in their twitter bio, their linkedin, and in every query letter they send.
Cracks me up every time.

>> No.16206837

>>16206627
Damn do I really look that masculine? I don't have a cock.

>> No.16206913

>>16206764
Everyone hates male virgins, not just feminists. The only exception is other male virgins or late bloomers, and even they often hate other male virgins. There's probably some evopsych just-so-story that you could spin up about why this is the case, a combination of >>16206807 and the idea that sympathizing with socially undesirable people lowers one's own social status. Is it fair? Fuck no, but for the aforementioned reasons, no one will ever oppose it except on anonymous imageboards, and even here, one of the most common insults is some variation of "have sex, incel".

>> No.16206939

>>16206363
Even with make-up your skin makes you look like an about-to-rot, bruised apple.
It's as if a child tried to mold a nose from play-doh, did an okay job, but then smashed it atop your face and began to cry.
You've got soulless shitskin eyes void of any personality--no idea why you're trying to accent them with whatever the fuck you've put on the upper lids.
Have you ever, even if only once in your life, properly washed your hair?
If you're not at least a 6/10 (you aren't), you need to fucking smile in your pictures to seem attractive. Otherwise I'm going to assume all sorts of nasty, putrid shit is currently residing behind those lips.
I'll be scheduling a safari soon to try and spot the endangered species sheltering within your eyebrows.
No, the key pendant doesn't make you seem mysterious or quirky, it looks like any other five dollar piece of plated-nickel garbage you find in the check-out aisle at H&M.
I hear the book factory ran out of plates to ink and print from. We could probably use your chest instead, though.
Finally, for posting an image of yourself on /lit/, you're a fucking whore (you already knew that).

>> No.16206964

The police violence stems from how violent the US is in general. Situations just escalate rapidly unlike anywhere else in the developed world. I've seen videos of australian police, and the way they manage to handle things in a generally calm way makes me jealous I don't live in such a place. At the same time, if US police did that, it would result in more police casualties since many respond to the threat of arrest with violence. Think of it like a duel where the last to draw his gun loses, and the cop never knows if it's going to be a duel. However, he can assess the likelihood of a duel based on who he's confronting. A woman? Very unlikely. Wealthy, educated-looking guy? Doubtful. You see where I'm headed with this. I hate stereotypes on principle, but you can intuit the kind of person who'd fight with a cop at a glance, and in that line of work this "gut feeling" is crucial to making it out alive.

At the same time, legitimate violence exists. The leniency afforded to the US police for the above reason has attracted many people with genuine ill-intent who use the badge as pretext for acting out their sadism (think back to Daniel Shaver). Many of these certainly have a race component. However, there's no chance most police incidents originate in racism. It's simply the violent nature of the country in action.

>> No.16206982

>>16206589
I'm also starting a new relationship, but it's kinda the opposite. We seem super into each other physically, but are very different mentally. I feel this will be a good one actually.
gl to you
>23 kv
What does that mean?

>> No.16206996

>>16206964
black people in the US like to adjudicate their situation the moment they come in contact with police instead of in court

>> No.16207008

>16206363
I understand that you are a young woman and need attention and that you probably feel so trapped in your life especially with covid and all and that you need an outlet and so you find these weirdos and you get a deadly alchemical mix of mate-seeking-behavior, insecurity and a website whos unique selling point is free sociopathy. and so now I become the asshole because I feel I have to white-knight but fucking god damn it this was a bad move woman. I bet your confidence got sunk but this is your doing. even in the best case all you're doing is getting in the way. 4chan is NOT for your social needs, it is NOT a surrogate for anything else.

>> No.16207050

>>16206996
>>16206964
Black people, as a result of their generally lower IQs, are incapable of understanding abstractions such as a "justice system."
To them, a confrontation with a cop is just that, a confrontation between himself and a cop, and nothing more. A man-versus-man situation. If the black man can defeat the cop, he thinks he can ride along his merry way. He does not (and indeed, cannot) comprehend that an entire system exists behind any single cop that is solely tasked with bringing criminals and cop-killers down. Note that a "justice system" does not physically exists; it is an abstraction built upon many discrete physical truths (cops, judges, laws, technology, citizens, etc.).
A normal white man, or an intelligent black man, does as the cop says--even if you could win a fight with a cop, the entire force of the justice system would come down upon you for doing so. Meanwhile, the average black, thinking it's pistols at dawn and then a ride into the sunset, will be much more likely to engage in the kind of monkey bullshit we see on police bodycams time and time again.
The most retarded of whites do the same thing, but there are so many more blacks at that level, already inundated with a culture of cop-hatred and a general contempt for civilized life.

>> No.16207053

>>16206996
All that guy had to do was comply with the police instead of going into his car. I don't get why black people think complying with law enforcement is optional and that trying to bully the police is going to work.

>> No.16207060

>>16198730
>Does a person grow out of the feeling of loneliness?
Depends on the friends you make

>> No.16207076

>>16198299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_pxCAcJz4&list=RDMMsl_pxCAcJz4&index=1

>> No.16207087

>>16206982
>>23 kv
>What does that mean?

23 years old kissless virgin, and good luck to you too brother, hopefully it works out.

>> No.16207095

My work just sent out a warning not the engage in "digital blackface" which they described as behavior like posting a Beyonce emoji (what? maybe they meant a meme?) if your friend breaks up with her boyfriend.

>> No.16207108

>>16207095
jesus fucking christ

>> No.16207120

>>16207050
This is true, and it was not always so. The concept of justice as an abstraction present always in the determinations of specific facts was something pioneers brought west with them, something the savages never anticipated nor produced in all their hundreds of thousands of years living in material splendor. They killed fur traders and missionaries and pioneers, and they learned by hard experience that where you eke out a temporary advantage, you suffer in the long run from the retributive action of civilized men. Only blacks seems unable to ever learn this lesson.

>> No.16207190

>>16207008
Ah well, you're not wrong. Thank you

>> No.16207219

>>16207095
Basically using black reaction images, because some people might get the impression that you're black and it's considered cultural appropriation.

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16207233

>>16201159
>tfw no tranny gf

>> No.16207234

I've started purging anything "black" from my life. I have some Baldwin and Black Panthers shit in storage which I'm going to chuck next time I stop by. I've deleted most rap from my music library, but I still put on some Shy Glizzy or A$AP Ferg out of habit. Hopefully by winter I will have purged all appropriative or otherwise problematic material from my life. I live in a large urban area, and I'm sure I have on occasion used slang rooted in the African American vernacular in my day to day speech. I will now carefully police my language for any problematic vocabulary or expressions. Finally, I will carefully evaluate my wardrobe for inappropriate apparel. While the Silicon Valley tech bros have normalized the hoodie, I feel I must let this beloved staple go. I grew up on hip-hop, so it's a little sad that it has come to this, but it is clearly necessary.

>> No.16207257

>>16207050
IIRC the rate of violence between police and white citizens is still quite bad. At its heart, it comes down to the country's worship of absolute freedom and independence, to live one's life as they choose. This is what anyone needs to grasp the essence of the U.S. - other nations are tied together by belief systems, shared values, shared history, national character, cultural sentiment, and so on; the US is tied together by obligation. The individual is placed at the center of society, and their rights are the utmost. Thus, if someone believes they are in the right, they think they have full license to act however they want, and do so, because rights of the individual triumph over social order or formal power structures here. Stupid people are more likely to do this because they don't actually understand the law.

As for why they don't settle in court? Partly stupidity, but there's also a machoistic thing where you're not a man if you let someone shit talk/arrest you if you're in the right. This is why Americans sometimes call people in other countries (like the Brits with knives thing) pussies for attempting to keep violent situations peaceful. There is no sense of social harmony in the U.S. anymore, so the concept just doesn't translate over.

>> No.16207286

>>16207233
Ella is going out with a beta though. A real string of piss kinda fella. Big bad wolf could knock him down.

>> No.16207536

>>16201159
idg why these two are the face of tranny porn stars when they have such deep mannish voices

>> No.16207611

>>16201352
scandi here too, I hate that I have gotten so complacent in this situation. I could be the upcoming big boi writer, but I do fuck all

>> No.16207757

>>16198730
Feelings will always come and go

>> No.16207765

>>16207087
>23 years old kissless virgin
>not attracted to her
Honestly, is your sex drive so low, or are you maybe denying something?

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16207789

I can't find a single soul capable of changing the world with their writing, and it makes me worried for the future. How come all you see on this board is lefty this marx that schizophrenic that! How come no one can realize true intellectualism in the world? Is anyone here actually trying to create new ideas that will affect our world for a lifetime and beyond?

>> No.16207822

>>16198299
As i grow old I can't tell complexity and simplicity apart

>> No.16207831

>>16207822
sounds like you're an idiot

>> No.16207834

>>16207789
you seem stupid.

>> No.16207837

>>16207789
>changing the world with writing
nobody has ever done that

>> No.16207842

>>16207837
>what is the Bible
>>16207834
thank you for proving my superiority over you

>> No.16207857

>>16207831
so are you

>> No.16207861

>>16207842
do you know how much shilling paul had to do to construct "christianity" as a coherent ideology in the classical gentile world? the bible wasn't even compiled yet. you definitely seem stupid.

>> No.16207871

>>16207842
you're ignoring at least 500 years of violent shilling of the bible, the book alone is worthless

>> No.16207876

>>16207861
>what are all the letters the apostles wrote that convinced the world to keep Christianity
>what are the writings of Augustine

>> No.16207888

>>16207857
>>16207861
>>16207871
anyways retards i've seen you niggers jerk off about Karl Marx and that faggot has been dead for 200 years LOL

>> No.16207907

>>16207888
i would say have sex, but luckily for humanity, your genes won't be getting reproduced

>> No.16207915

>>16207861
>doesn't know the Bible is almost entirely the Torah which was written in Alexandria >>16207907
sick comeback retard literally fucking grade school "virgin lol"

>> No.16207927

its over

>> No.16207930

>>16207888
>involving karl marx for no reason
dumb commie

>> No.16207941

>>16207930
>for no reason
>>16207837
>nobody has ever done that
let me google what the communist manifesto is real quick I need an informed thought about this retardism

>> No.16207987

>>16207927
It hasn't even begun.

>> No.16207990

>>16207941
>a literal autist
seek mental help
>inb4 who are you quoting
take your meds

>> No.16208010

>>16207990
>>inb4 who are you quoting
you didn't quote anyone brother, take your meds schizo

>> No.16208029

>>16207941
>using a materialist ideology to argue for idealism
weird flex, but ok

>> No.16208041

>>16208010
>sperg and dumb
dangerous combination report to your nearest mental asylum

>> No.16208090

>>16208041
arguing in empty words and no meaning! the /lit/ way, you are all pathetic, biggest fucking larp board on the site

>> No.16208124

>>16208090
quite ironic you are my mentally ill friend
>inb4 im not your friend bucko

>> No.16208153

>>16208124
Literally schizoposting inside of a single comment! you are fucked buddy lololo

>> No.16208171

>>16208153
meds take them

>> No.16208188

>>16208171
well yes, you are mentally ill and don't take the medications your therapist prescribes, so everyone must be the same!

>> No.16208194

>>16208188
sshh there there

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>>16208194

>> No.16208423

>>16207765
I masturbate fairly frequently, maybe that’s a cause or it isn’t linked to sex drive I’m not sure. Denying something? About my sexuality or about what I think about her?

>> No.16208476

covid is a bad narrative, like communism, that has a silver lining that leads to a gold thread that leads to

>> No.16208537
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16208537

I am coping, you are coping. We are Cooping.

>> No.16208587

>>16208537
I bet them shits are sagging hard.

>> No.16208662

Idea: Make a new internet but only sane people are allowed in

>> No.16208706

>>16208423
>About my sexuality
That's what I meant, but didn't wanna imply anything, just seemed suspicious. I think a non-ugly person simply doesn't stay a virgin till this age.

>> No.16208727

today my boss sees my scars and he does not say one word

>> No.16208759

Today I found an album that had the exact sound and lyrical content I was looking for and frustrated in my attempts to find when I was 15. I listened to it, knowing I would have loved it, but it left no impression on me but a distinct feeling of lost and wasted time. Since all my friends moved on to the next stages of their lives and I was left behind I have existed in stasis.

>> No.16208764

Dating in a hyper liberal town sucks. Most women are insufferable “activists”. They’re rare but I know there must be more nuanced women here. I’ll have to keep look deeper.

>> No.16208848

>>16208662
what is sanity but agreement to be blind?

>> No.16209197

>>16206227
You sound like the kind of person whose journaling would probably best be done dialectically, especially if you've got a mind to retain that kind of verbal information, or do most of it through text. These threads are a nice opportunity to do that sort of thing.
>it doesn't matter
I think it does, otherwise you'd probably not have said anything. How much philosophy have you read, and whose?

>> No.16209211

>>16208764
Yeah, honestly at this point I'm just working on a novel.

>> No.16209266

>>16207219
>black people segregating themselves not only physically but culturally as well
Pretty based, if I'm being honest.

>> No.16209276

>>16207095
Posting anything not directly work related into slack or whatever is both cringe and a huge liability.

>> No.16209431

I saw the cashier at Home Depot again who looks like she has an eating disorder. She looked like she gained a little weight. She must be in her early 20s. She rung me up the last time I was there, when they inexplicably had humans operating what were the self-checkout stations. I'd like to talk to her but it would all be too weird. She must be over 10 years younger than me. I am ugly. But maybe the mask hides some of that.

>> No.16209475

>>16208537
something about this makes my brain return to monke

>> No.16209486

>>16209431
You should ask her some kind of store related question and then turn it to not store related banter and see if she goes with it.

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16209497

I don't know what I am supposed to do about those artists/creators that get canceled. Stop supporting them? I still like their work.

>> No.16209629

>>16206363
what are you doing here

>> No.16209630

>>16209486
I would but I can't risk it. The last time I let myself daydream about approaching a woman, I went crazy.

>> No.16209793

>>16199324
We are fleshy blips that were blessed with the gift of human consciousness

>> No.16210281

>https://www.twitch.tv/woke

fresh fires live in kenosha kid!

>> No.16210310

>>16210281
wow the department of corrections building is on fire! i didn't know those kind of government buildings where that flammable lol

>> No.16210335

>>16210281
crisis prevention center on fire lmao

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>>16198531
just don't think too hard what's in those squirt guns

>> No.16210346

I hate mask culture. There is no chance of me meeting a new girl until mask culture ends. I am stuck alone writing my book and not texting my ex. Fuck the masks

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>>16209497
It’s a false sense of progress and accomplishment. Liberals are selling it as a distraction to the growing labor movement and the shittiest election cycle in US history.

Biden pic related

>> No.16210483

>>16209497
Why the hell do you the care? These people are almost never cancelled for something truly heinous anyway, it's always petty bullshit.

>> No.16210491 [DELETED] 

did you guys see that? there were white guys laying on the ground with rifles and then when the cop shines his light on them they got up and he let them go, what the hell? can you just walk around with a semi-auto in wisconsin?

>> No.16210500

>>16208764
Fuck oath man. Living near a university and all these chicks are insufferable. I'm not a misogynist by any stretch of the imagination but the types of girls that show many attention are ironically the ones I find the most annoying.

>> No.16210601

>>16206363
>thinking /lit/ is less depraved...
Don't let the name fool, /lit/ is the virtual water cooler for pedos, maladjusted juveniles, incels, and schizos.

>> No.16210607

It takes me so long to wake up in the morning. I don't mean to get out of bed, but to start feeling functional - it takes at least an hour. I have to shower, have a coffee, and eat before I can do anything but these processes take such a long time for some reason. I ought to start waking earlier.

>> No.16210633

>>16210607
Some people are just like that, I think. I've met a lot, anyways. Do you mind it on account of the time you think you're losing, or for the sake of the thing itself? I used to be really bothered by the amount of time I'd waste in the mornings, until I realized it was a nice meditative time for me and started to enjoy the calmness of the routine more.

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>>16209197
>You sound like the kind of person whose journaling would probably best be done dialectically, especially if you've got a mind to retain that kind of verbal information, or do most of it through text. These threads are a nice opportunity to do that sort of thing.
What, you mean like Plato? Setting up situations and presenting different POVs? I could do that, it's like a story.
>I think it does, otherwise you'd probably not have said anything.
I suppose. I jsut figure that since there's no iherent doctrine to my thoughts, and they're just a scattershot trying to justify the day-to-day, it really doesn't matter until I choose a proper path in life.
>How much philosophy have you read, and whose?
Uh... I've read nothing. Not seriously. A passage here and there. I always mean to, but I went from school to Uni to absolutely wrecking that part of my life and I'm scrambling trying to pass the classes and graduate by 2022. Some things were my fault, a lot was out of my control. Anyway, I haven't read a book past textbooks in about a decade. Fiction or not. I went through a couple of political and philosophical "reinventions", through /lit/, /his/ and /pol/ and ultimately came out realising that I never actually adopted anything, I merely went with the flow of what helped me get by through at any given point in time. I never took them seriously.

Now, I can say that I don't seek to be illuminated. I seek to confirm my bias. Bad as that sounds. I've looked inwards and know what I want. The rest doesn't matter to me. "Good" or "bad", I don't care. I can see the merits, the arguments, everything, from multiple sides. But I just don't care anymore. I know what I am. I know what I want. So I'll try and get a firm grasp of most major doctrines, then try to construct my own "truth". I've always found it rather weird that most people tried to produce codes and ethics meant to decipher the ultimate truth and be followed by all. For me, there would be distinct doctrines depending on your role, and each part would have its spot in the grand play of the "Word". I cannot imagine spewing the same commands to a "good" life to people from entirely different classes and places. I think that I shouldtry and have answers for multiple POVs.

I'm also this anon here, if it matters >>16202540

>> No.16210742

>>16210633
It's moreso the time I'm losing but that's partly because I wake too late. Lately I've been waking at 9 - which isn't too bad, except that I'm not functional until at least 10, sometimes 10:30 - then before I know it, it's 12 and I can feel the day slipping away. Another issue is that I waste too much time between errands / other jobs. I'll finish a task and then take a 20 minute break, which adds up to a lot of wasted time by the end of the day. I'm going to start making to do lists the day before and I'm going to start waking up at 7am.

My discipline isn't too bad on the whole, but I feel like it needs fine tuning - really I shouldn't be on the phone right now making this post!

>> No.16210748

>>16210601
and I presume you're better than all of them

>> No.16210795

I wish the term simp had come into vogue a few years earlier, then I might have realised what I had got myself into a little sooner and wasted less time. Ah well.

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>>16198299
How do I deal with being a Uralic steppenigger?

>> No.16210984

I'm having so much fun reading Faust out loud bros. Nothing gives joy as much as declaiming poetry.

>> No.16211003

I wish I had better friends. However, I can't make new ones because everything is closed due to a fake virus, astroturfed to cause strife before the elections.

>> No.16211076

>>16211003
75% same here. The 25% that differs is my opinion on the virus, which is, in fact, quite real -- a quite real bioweapon created by China. But the bioweapon doesn't just target the lungs, it targets the heart: no new opportunities to find love, or hell, even friends that don't suck.

>> No.16211565

>>16209629
some threads are about interesting writers

>>16210601
i guess that's accurate too, but at least it's a blue board

>> No.16211960

she's dead
my mother is dead
it's been 2 months today, and It still feels surreal
I came to terms with it more times than I can count, and it goes like that until I realize again that it didn't really sink in
I couldn't even see her

she was too precious for everything that happened to her, she was inching to death everyday and there was nothing I could do

But she was strong, and she was happy
I love you mom, so so much

>> No.16211971

>>16211960
Im sorry to hear that. What kind of person she was?

>> No.16212039

>>16198559

I do.

>> No.16212221

>>16211960
We can be glad that you had the chance to grow up with her. She will live on in the memory of all who knew her

>> No.16212287

I had a dream the other night that has really stuck with me. My mother and sister (who both took their own lives last year) had committed a murder and I had taken credit for it. I went through a surreal kangaroo court in my father's living room and it was determined that I would be executed. They said it would be lethal injection.

My father and I went to a tailor so I could get a suit to die in. While my father was taking my measurements I pressed my face to his stomach and cried. He told me that it wasn't too late to come clean, but I knew it meant killing my mother and my sister.

I walked back into the living room/courtroom, and then I woke up. I do not know if I chose to let them die or to die in their stead.

When I woke up, I wanted to die. Instead I got dressed and went to work.

>> No.16212581

>>16212287
>who both took their own lives last year
Why?

>> No.16212605

>>16198299
War and Peace has been pretty uninteresting, at the start of volume 2 rn. I hope Dostoyevski is more interesting, I have a few of his books lying around. I should probably avoid pre-1900 books after I'm done with those.

>> No.16212640

>>16212581
Severe mental illness. My sister couldn't bear the stress of losing our mother.

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>>16212605
I read it last year and thought it was beautiful, relatable and at times profound, and all the way elegantly written

>> No.16212648

>>16212640
How are you holding up?

>> No.16212928

>>16212648
Not well desu.

I dream about my mother often. It is usually some variance of
>mom shows up while I'm busy doing something
>hey Anon, I'm back! I love you so much!
>Great to see you mom, but I'm really busy, we'll catch up later
>wake up without talking to her again
or
>mom hugs me while I bawl my eyes out
>wake up
or
>come home from something
>apartment has been immaculately cleaned
>mom is there
>Hey Anon, I cleaned up your place, now make sure it stays this way!
>wake up

It is always horrible when I wake up and realize all over again that she's gone. I have started many days crying, and I often consider following them into the afterlife. I'm still kicking, though.

For a long time I drowned my sorrows in alcohol and work, but now I work a lot less and I no longer allow myself to keep hard liquor at home. It has freed up a lot more time to stare at the ceiling or my desktop background and be morose.

>> No.16212972

>>16212928
Stay strong anon. I dont want to be that person but have you considered visiting therapist to ease the sorrow a bit?

>> No.16212985

>>16211076
>it targets the heart: no new opportunities to find love
Pretty gay, man

>> No.16213001

I hate the cliche adjective phrase "full-throated"
Only ever makes me think of the sex act
Dunno why retards use it

>> No.16213003

>>16198299
i want to fucking die

>> No.16213191

>>16212972
My friends staged a little intervention a few weeks ago wherein they insisted I find a therapist or grief counselor or something. I'm still going back and forth on it.

I have been trying to get through it with prayer. I think a confession or some kind of religious counseling would do me good, but unfortunately there aren't any Hellenic temples in existence that follow the Gods as I do, let alone in my little, rural state.

>> No.16213212

>>16213191
Its your choice anon. Either way i hope you'll find the peace.

>> No.16213225

>>16213003
I will pray against you

>> No.16213227

>>16198299
Changing the way you think is relatively easy.
How do you change how you feel? I have such ingrained negative emotions, I can't heal myself.

>> No.16213287

>>16213191
>Hellenic temples
>the Gods
Oh no

>> No.16213301

>>16213191
>but unfortunately there aren't any Hellenic temples in existence that follow the Gods as I do

what

>> No.16213425

>>16212985
Oh yeah, definitely. Maybe I'd be a bit less so if I had an outlet for my urges other than weird 2D porn.

>> No.16213466

>>16213227
our feelings prove our helplessness. we can get the feeling when we're just living on like we're more or less in control, but our feelings prove us wrong. your post made me think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0OdNY8Aybw
especially the bit that starts around 2:13

>> No.16213482

>>16213425
An "outlet for your urges" isn't love

>> No.16213500

>>16213466
bob hitchhiked with nothing in his pocket to visit his hero woody guthrie, the folkmusician, in brooklin state hospital when he was quite young and shortly before woodies death.

>> No.16213523

>>16213466
this is really good, but in the end it's just words.
It's nice to hear that everyone feels like you do, or at least someone else does, but it doesn't make you feel any better.
I try really hard to tell myself that most of my self hate and fear comes from the capitalistic bullshit that was injected into me from childhood, but it's not enough to actually effect that festering bullshit.

>> No.16213544

>>16213523
did you try pouring it into something? "capistalistic bullshit" can make for pretty good satire and besides it might be good just to try getting things out of your head. sometimes they look different.

>> No.16213580
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16213580

D-do you train confidence somehow? Is it working out?
My confidence is very low since forever, currently I'm just trying to 'fake it till I make it'.

>> No.16213600

>>16213580
Dramatically lower your investment in other people's judgments of you. It helps to get good at things for your self esteem but really its about not caring too much about what people think of you.

>> No.16213624

>>16213580
Practice public speaking and work on your appearance.

>> No.16213674

>>16213287
>>16213301
Men often fall into religion when they experience loss, and I was no exception. In so doing, I also fell back into the love I've had for Greek mythos and the Theogonies since I was a kid.

I suppose one might call me an Orphist in particular, but the reality is that I started with the Orphic Theogony and Hymns and built up from there on my own. That is why I say there's no one out there like me.

>> No.16213717

>>16213674
what's the outermost principle of creation for a helenist? do you have any contact with it or is the focus on "lower" meta-levels like the gods and them? I'm assuming Zeus was created by something and so that he can not be the outermost creator

>> No.16213749

>>16213717
Are you really so unfamiliar with Greek myth? Zeus and his siblings were the children of Cronus the titan, who was in turn the son of the Earth and sky.

>> No.16213770

>>16213717
In the beginning there was Aether and the void. Nyx can be seen as the void (or at least an incarnation of it) and it is not uncommon for people to pray and make offerings to her. I do, at least.
There is generally a far greater focus on the Gods rather than, say, the Titans or those that came before them. This is because the world as we know it has been recreated many times, and the last two in the Theogonies were both the work of Zeus. Thus, most of the Mysteries focus on Zeus and the other Gods. They have the most direct effect on man.

>> No.16213805

>>16213770
>Aether and the void
can they be described?

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>>16198299
Antinatalists always say they didnt ask to be born. But as a determinist it seems to me we were destined too be born. Life is a self perpetuating torture chamber.

Another thing, since your subjective experience is all you know, your life which is all encompassing will never end. Your dying breath will simply be eternal.

Have fun :)

>> No.16213846

>>16213805
How everything began cannot be, no. It is quite literally called "The Beginning Which Cannot Be Spoken" in the Orphic tradition.
Aether and Void themselves can be, sort of. The Void is just that, a void. The vacuum of space, if you want a secular answer. Aether is a metaphysical substance. It is what souls are made of.

>> No.16213922

>>16213846
Void is defined by being
the metaphysical is defined by the physical

Thus the void is impossible to comprehend
And so is the metaphysical.

>> No.16213925

>>16213846
in the heaven-earth dichotomy, is heaven something like abrahamitic heaven (ie some form of non-material meta-realm), and if so does that imply that aether becomes heaven and earth is somehow made to fill the void (on the terms of such a fundamentally material space, if I understand correctly)? in many ways it seems pretty close to an abrahamitic account. According to the Jewish Study Bible a better translation of Genesis 1 is "When God began to create heaven and earth", rather than the traditional "In the beginning-", which implies that there was something before the account relevant to us, which is unknown to us.

>> No.16213963

>>16213925
>that there was something before the account relevant to us, which is unknown to us.
ie that the point that marks the farthest point in our history that we have been given knowledge of, when God creates heaven and earth, is not necessarily the actual farthest point

>> No.16214013

>>16213925
That is my view, yes. The Theogony itself doesn't always agree on the matter, so a definitive answer just isn't possible.

Yes, the Rhapsodic Theogony is quite similar to Judeo-Christian traditions, if a lot more convoluted. When you go down to the base creation myths of most religions and spiritual paths you will find many similarities. I won't say Orphists didn't do their fair share of biting myths from other sources, they absolutely did, but the Orphists' telling is the one that speaks to me the most.

>> No.16214155

>>16214013
there is an idea in Islam that all peoples have had real prophets, but that for all the knowledge has become distorted over time. for this reason we can see that there are elements of what we see as being the Truth in many religions and traditions, which are True parts that have survived. the Quran is seen as the last true reminder/warning/aid. But for us, of course, the begin all end all thing is the one God. Though there can be other things that we find truth in, this is a must. But it's interesting to hear, especially how people have thought about the body-soul thing.

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>>16204539
That's a good way to think about it.
I think along the same lines when considering human civilization. What is the purpose of culture? Perhaps its the meaning created through its own recognition.

It's a real lazy ending, but maybe the treasure really was the friends we made along the way...

>> No.16214415

>>16214376
Dont worry about death nigga, youre destined for an eternity of suffering
>>16213828

>> No.16214424

>>16198730
No, it grows like a tumor forever until it completely consumes you and all that's left is an empty shell.

I'd say that the cut-off age for finding something that gives your life meaning and purpose to ward of the existential dread is around 25, after that it becomes very improbable.

>> No.16214452

>>16201458
>I wonder if it was a test to see how fucking retarded we really are and how advanced the spiritual decay is
Most probably. Look up "Netflix Cuties" for the latest installment :')

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>>16198299
New thread >>16212114

Write what's on your mind moved to the /lit/ salon.

>> No.16214848

So, I'm making a list of improvements I want to make before I turn 31 having just turned 30. One of them is getting organised. I'm being lazy, though. I do wonder how much of the day when people aren't working that they're productive. I wonder and I feel like I'm behind for some reason.