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Just bought this based on /lit/'s discussions of it. Did I just get memed on? I hope the talking dog lives up to the hype.

>> No.16196562

I hope it's better than the talking dog in Gravity's Rainboe

>> No.16197257

>>16196562
What's with Pynchon and talking dogs. Is he a magical realist?

>> No.16197276

>>16196562
when was the talking dog in gr i dont remember that shit, i do remember that village with the dogs who had been trained by whose master abandoned them which was a sick ass metaphor for man and god tho, that part was even better than byron the bulb if u ax me

>> No.16197292

>Did I just get memed on?
No, but you're about to get PYNCHED

>> No.16197298

>>16196091
It’s hard to tell if it’s just an exaggeration by the story teller.the whole story of m&d is framed as a story within a story.and the story teller is talking to children so he obv embellishes some stuff as other characters note.another clue that he is an unreliable narrator is the fact that he gives first hand accounts of m&d’s journey when it’s clear that he wasn’t there.overall the talking dog is a super small part of the book, basically an aside

>> No.16197310

>>16197276
In part 1 when Mexico is with Jessica, there's that dog that says "Ver you perheps expecting Lessie?" or something

>> No.16197313

>>16196091
its great im not finished yet but ive already cried :(

>> No.16197322

>>16197276
Pointsman (I think) is trying to catch a stray dog and accidentally huffs a bunch of ether trying to get his foot unstuck from the toilet bowl. He starts conversing with the dog and the people with him are like “what the fuck”

>> No.16197330

>son & xon has been sitting on my shelf for months
>scared to begin because Gravity’s Rainbow was a fucking beatdown (despite being incredible)

>> No.16197335

>>16197330
I actually think it’s one of his more straightforward novels and perhaps his most accessible once you get used to the archaic language

>> No.16197356

>>16197335
It's not really straightforward, it's just less cryptic.

>> No.16197360

i have a copy V in storage shud i read that or cop a copy of M&D

>> No.16197366

>>16197298
The suggestions that this book plays with historical memory are what got me interested in it.

>> No.16197551

>>16196091
>talking dog
>no mention of the talking robot duck
Literally what the FUCK was this supposed to be?

>> No.16197657

>>16197356
True.straightforward wasn’t the right word.whenever I got lost or confused reading m&d, I would regain my bearings quickly.some shit in GR went right over my head.i also thinks it helps that each book deals with technology of its time more or less.a lot easier to understand 18th century science compare to 20th century

>> No.16197671

>>16197551
M&D is one of my favorite books but I personally didn’t care for the robotic duck story

>> No.16197691

>>16196091
>glorifies slavery
Yikes, I think I'll pass on this one thanks.

>> No.16197877

>>16197551
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digesting_Duck

>> No.16198387

>>16197322
Pointsman has his foot stuck in the toilet, Mexico is the one who goes after the dog and hallucinates from the ether fumes.

>> No.16198602

>>16197671
What are some of your other favorite, non-Pynchon books?

>> No.16198606

>>16196091
post pic

>> No.16198634

>>16197691
Uhh... It's literally the opposite but I guess your mind is made up.

>> No.16199498

>>16198602
Moby dick, in search of lost time, don Quixote, rings of Saturn, lonesome dove, the magic mountain, short stories by Hemingway, Turgenev, Fitzgerald and Faulkner jostle among my favorites list

>> No.16199528

>>16197691
Absolutely P Y N C H E D

>> No.16199529

>>16199498
Also nine stories, tbk, w&p and the savage detectives.i like a lot of shit so it’s tough to just pick a few.lol

>> No.16199548

>>16199529
>lol

>> No.16199581

I've read some pynchon but not M&D, is the title purposely made to sound like Manson and Nixon?
seems like he would do that.

>> No.16199585

>Actually trusting these morons with recommendations

Yeah you got memed on

>> No.16199621

>>16199581
No.
Genuine schizophrenics should steer clear of Pynchon, he will aggravate your nature.

>> No.16199650

>>16199581
No but the ampersand is 666

>> No.16199709

>>16199621
>>16199650
How is that schizophrenic lmao. That would not be that crazy of a concept.

>> No.16199718

>>16199709
*it would not be

>> No.16199744

>>16199709
Mason and Dixon were real people though. It'd be like writing about Martin Luther and thinking it's a reference to the civil rights leader

>> No.16199783

>>16199744
I see. My basis for Pynchon is Inherent vice (tho i am almost halfway through GR) i didnt know they were real people.

>> No.16199817

>>16199709
The random association, the lack of any textual or metatextual reason to think it. Pynchon has enough actual references, no need to add any.

>> No.16199834

>>16199783
Guessing ur not American.the “south” r the states below the Mason-Dixon Line.a factionalized account of their journey mapping out the line is what the book is about

>> No.16199876

>>16199834
Oh I member now. I'm a leaf.

>> No.16199910

>>16199834
>factionalized
That's actually a pretty good slip, considering the recurring theme of boundaries between groups of people.

>> No.16201093

Imagine being filtered by a talking dog lmao

>> No.16201448

>>16199529
OUT

>> No.16201569

>>16197276
I think it’s implied that Roger Mexico was a dog.

>> No.16202909

K.. KEEP ME POSTED