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1616614 No.1616614 [Reply] [Original]

So, I know brownbear is supposed to be working on this or has finished it maybe, but I can't seem to find one anywhere.

Thought we might as well work on it! I started off with a few that I already had pictures on my computer of, but we should probably make some 'rules' for it. Like how many pages and all that.

>> No.1616628

no Don Quixote?

>> No.1616627

Bleak House
Brothers Karamazov
War & Peace
Lord of the Rings?
Cryptonomicon even though it sucks

>> No.1616640

What's the criteria for a "doorstopper" going to be though? 500 pages, approx, according to the edition? 600? More?

And Musashi? I think it's a great fucking book, but it's not exactly literary. If we put that there we might as well throw in the likes of LOTR too. Is that something we want to do?

>> No.1616645

Clarissa has be front and centre.

I'm pretty sure it's over the million word mark, and all in epistolary form.

>> No.1616651

david copperfield by dickens
2666 by bolano

>> No.1616656

Atlas Shrugged needs to be on there.

>> No.1616660

>>1616645
Well, I was thinking it would be in random order, like the novellas chart, since it's kind of going to be it's counterpart.

>>1616640
I'm sorry you don't consider Musashi "literary" enough for you.

>> No.1616663

>>1616645
What's a good non-abridged version to use the cover of?

>> No.1616666

>>1616660

Dude, as I said, it's a great book. But it's samurai pulp-fiction. What, can't you admit to liking something non-literary?

>> No.1616667

Les Misérables
The Decameron
Moby Dick

>> No.1616668

>No unabridged Count of Montecristo

laughinggirls.jpeg

>> No.1616695

East of Eden
War And Peace

>> No.1616696
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1616696

Here's the updated version so far.

>> No.1616701

The Magus? Really? I liked it when I was a kid, but recently re-read it and it seems so naive now.

Also, Foucault's Pendulum fucking where?

>> No.1616703

Edmund Spenser - The Faerie Queene

>> No.1616708

Ada, or Ardor

>> No.1616709

Needs more Gravity's Rainbow.

>> No.1616711

>>1616708
yeah this.

>> No.1616714

The Stand by Stephen King

cheap literature is cheap, but still a really big doorstopper

>> No.1616720

>>1616667

You, sir, are a man of outstanding taste.

>> No.1616724

Middlemarch by George Eliot
Daniel Deronda by George Eliot
The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoevsky
The Adolescent by Fyodor Dostoevsky
Demons by Fyodor Dostoevsky
Nicholas Nickleby by Charles Dickens
Little Dorrit by Charles Dickens
Villette by Charlotte Bronte
Vanity Fair by William Thackeray

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1616758

>they think bigger books are better

>> No.1616761

>>1616656
Fountainhead > Atlas Shrugged imo.

>> No.1616787

I guess In Search of Lost Time would be a good candidate if you consider it a single book. It's split into volumes, but so are some of the ones on the list (all the Chinese ones at least), but unlike the Chinese ones it was originally split into 'books'.

>> No.1616789

Petersburg - Andrei Bely

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>>1616787
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what to put as the cover for it. Think this one would be good?

>> No.1616802

>>1616789
http://www.amazon.com/Petersburg-Andrei-Bely/dp/0253202191/ says it isn't even 400 pages?

>> No.1616807
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1616807

And here's the updated chart at the moment.

>> No.1616811

Robert Musil's 'The Man Without Qualities'

1, 700 pages in 3 vols

>> No.1616823

>>1616708
Seconded.

>> No.1616826

I've read all of those books. Recommend me some other ones.

>> No.1616830

Gargantua and Pantagruel

>> No.1616834

Categorizing books by how many pages they have is a new low for this board. I'm not surprised to find out that 'Brownbear' was involved.

Presumably you are the same people who object to others using "big words". Please kill yourselves.

>> No.1616848

>>1616834
We're just making recommendation charts. It's easier to do it this way with the classics than just having 9 pages of recommended classics. Plus, it's fun. You don't have to participate, but I don't see why you need to shit on other people's parade.

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>>1616807
>I am a cat
whaaat?
>look it up
>696 pages

>> No.1616862

>>1616848

Because you're reducing great literate to a level hitherto only reached by children and those with sub-80 IQs.

OH MY GOD -- A BIG BOOK! LOOK HOW BIG IT IS!!!!

You are a moron.

>> No.1616869

>>1616862

*literature

>> No.1616879

Jesus, this is getting so much hate. I don't recall the novellas chart being hated on this much while it was being made.

>> No.1616939

I have more doors that need stopping! OP, where did you go?

>> No.1616947

Fathers and Crows by William T. Vollmann

>> No.1616952

>>1616939
Still here! Looking through some older threads on green oval.

>> No.1616975

bumping

>> No.1616983

It's fucking dumb. That's actually why the first novella chart was created, as an attempt to get away from all the idiots who thought that just reading a big book meant they were smart or some real literary lover.

It doesn't help that half the books mentioned here are scraping the barrel. Sure, they might be long but are they actually GOOD? God, no.

>> No.1617002

>>1616983
why are you so angry that this in the very least will help people who specifically like to read long books

>> No.1617013

>>1617002

I'd rather we try and put together a decent, not-a-troll, list of best books, rather than lumping some great, some average and a lot of crap together just because they all happen to be long.

It's like affirmative action.

>> No.1617024

>>1617013
So make one! No one is stopping you. There's no reason we can't have multiple lists.

>> No.1617027

>>1617013
>list of best books
Any criterion you could suggest would be as arbitrary as suggesting length

Why should anyone cater to what YOU want in a book

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1617092

We're at 60 now! Anyone think we might get it up to 100 to match the novellas chart?

>> No.1617117

Life: A User's Manual - Georges Perec

>> No.1617121

The lack of any criteria is making this list a fucking mess.

Really? In Search of Lost Time goes in as one book? WTF?

And some of these books are half the length of others.

This really needs to be straightened out.

>> No.1617130

>>1617121
I couldn't find a complete in-one-volume set of In Search of Lost Time. If you know of one, please let me know and I'll switch that out. Otherwise, I don't know how to imply a multi-volume series other than just putting the first volume.

I think the page length criteria is 600+ pages. For all the ones that I check (about half), they were all over 600 pages. If there's any that are less than 550, let me know! At that point they probably don't count as 'door-stoppers.'

>> No.1617134

I never really considered a novel a door stopper until it hits about 1000+ pages

>> No.1617140

>>1617134

which is why like 3/4 of these books shouldn't be on this retarded list

>> No.1617142

>>1617134
Eh, I don't think we could hit 100 books if we were that exclusive. Maybe just 'long books' then?

>> No.1617144

>>1617130
My copy of C&P only hits 521 pgs.

Dostoevsky is still useable though
-The Possessed
-The Idiot
-Brother Karamazov

>> No.1617148

>>1617121
sometimes you just want a big long fucker of a book to luxuriate in

man, villette. i haven't thought about that book in years. i'd throw portrait of a lady and jonathan strange & mr norrell on this bitch op

>> No.1617159

For me this is how I've always looked at books.

<200 = novella
200-500 = novel
600-900 = thick novel
>1000 = DOORSTOPPER BABY

>> No.1617162

>>1617144
Weird, this version has over 700: http://www.amazon.com/Punishment-Penguin-Classics-Fyodor-Dostoyevsky/dp/0140449132/

That's a rather large difference. Is yours abridged maybe?

>> No.1617183

>>1617134
I vote for a 1000+ pages list

Otherwise this list just seems too random. Whore cares if we don't hit 100 recommended items.

So, 1000+ gives us.....

Don Quixote
War & Peace
Tale of Genji
Les Misrables
Search of Time

and.......

well anyways a quick google search gave me this

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_make_list_of_books_over_1000_pages

>> No.1617187

>>1617142

The list doesn't have to be long! Why are we trying to match the novella list anyway? Half of that 100 list is bullshit too, it being a load of longer short stories than actual novellas.

If there are only 25 decent actually doorstoppers (and I reckon you have to be 800 pages plus to be one) then so be it. Quality not quantity, people!

>> No.1617196

>>1617162
No, I'm certain it's not. This is the one I read.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Crime-and-Punishment/Fyodor-Dostoevsky/e/9781593080815

>> No.1617198

Okay! I'll vote for weeding out anything under 800 pages. Is this a good choice everyone? Someone needs to help me figure out what goes out though.

>> No.1617205

>>1617183
That list doesn't make sense. Never Let Me Go? wat?

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1617212

>people thinking C&P qualifies as a doorstopper

>> No.1617220

>>1617196
Just checked out many other editions on goodreads, the all claim the book is around 550ish pages.

The book you linked me must either be a more pocket sized type book, or perhaps filled with quite a bit of introduction.

>> No.1617221

>>1617198
hrm, maybe 800+ works

We just have to make sure these books are big

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1617233

Buddenbrooks
The Recognitions
A Suitable Boy
Shantaram
Underworld
Women and Men

>> No.1617236

>>1617233
Could you list page length to help me out a bit?

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1617245

>>1617236

776
956
936
1349
827
1191

Citing Wikipedia and Amazon.

>> No.1617250

What about the Divine Comedy?

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>>1617245
Misplaced the pagecount for Shantaram and A Suitable Boy though. Switch them around.

>> No.1617256

arabian nights
bible, qu'ran
story of civilization - will durrant
the pillars of earth
godel escher bach
cryptonomicon

more than 900 pages is the cutoff?

>> No.1617258

I'd rather have a list of 500+ page good books, as in good longer works, than actual doorstoppers that might not even be good.

>> No.1617259

>>1617205

White Noise? WTF?

Apparently the answer to his own question was "no."

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1617268

>ITT people learn doorstoppers are bigger than big novels and become unsure of the value of a list of big, not necessarily excellent, not necessarily doorstoppers.

So do compiled works of authors, published as a single book count? Pic related.

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1617272

I think I'm giving up for right now. There's no agreement on what is wanted and people are getting too angry. Here's what I had so far though - top part is verified as 800+ pages, bottom part hasn't been weeded through yet.

>> No.1617278

>>1617268 here

What about Chinese novels? Untranslated one's I mean.

>> No.1617289

help guise

tell me really big books that you haven't read and that i won't read either

>> No.1618611

1Q84 and The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, both by Haruki Murakami.

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>> No.1618619

>>1617272
oh noes
how to red the big buks now?

>> No.1618626

>>1618611
IQ84 DOESN'T COUNT IF THE ENGLISH VERSION IS RELEASED IN PARTS.

>> No.1618629

>>1618626
US version is a single 928-page volume.

>> No.1618641

>>1618626
By that logic, none of the Chinese classics would even count.

>> No.1618648

>>1618641
I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN POST EVERY FANTASY SERIES THAT HAD AT LEAST ONE PUBLISHING OF ALL THE BOOKS IN ONE.

>> No.1619076

Here's how the list should be, i.e. books that have been 1,000+ pages in at least one printing / typset:

War and Peace
Monte Cristo
Les Miz
Infinite Jest
2666
Anna Karenina
Jonathan Strange
Atlas Shrugged
The Fountainhead

I'm too lazy to make it into a picture, someone else do it. There are lots of others, I guess.

>> No.1619101

The Golden Bowl

>> No.1619106

Clive Barker's Weaveworld. That's ~1000 pages.