/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.16157388]

WHAT ARE YOU READING EDITION
>Tell us why it's shit

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[Anonymous No.16157410]

FUCK
E William Brown
FUCK
E William Brown

[Anonymous No.16157425]

Repeating my question from last bread:
I have a need for optimistic and uplifting sci-fi. Whaddya got that isn't on the charts?

[Anonymous No.16157430]

>>16157388
GRRM and his consequences have been a disaster for the fantasy writer race.

[Anonymous No.16157436]

>>16157410
>>16157410
>>16157410

[Anonymous No.16157439]

>>16157425
I'm actually writing something like this; a murder mystery set in a university in a solarpunk NYC.

[Anonymous No.16157441]

>>16157430
More like a really obnoxious fad that I hope blows over. It's too early to call it a disaster. If he has Tolkien-levels of impact on future generations then we can call it a disaster.

[Anonymous No.16157443]

>>16157410
You mean this? I loved these books, they are the most hilarious books I have read

[Anonymous No.16157447]

>>16157430
It is a great work of epic fantasy. Your not liking it means nothing.

[Anonymous No.16157451]

>>16157425
Quarter Share series.
Book 2 is shit but the rest are great.
There's very little drama, intrigue or action. Just a boy working his way up the ranks of commercial space freighter crews.

[Anonymous No.16157457]

>>16157439
Well how am I going to read if you haven't even finished it yet you worthless bum
Get back to work

[Anonymous No.16157545]

>>16157388
How do I do my own research on the fantasy genre?

[Anonymous No.16157562]

>>16157545
Start with the Greeks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_True_Story

[Anonymous No.16157580]

>>16157545
The same way you research anything.

[Anonymous No.16157621]

>>16157425
Non-stop by Brian Aldiss
The Stars My Destination

[Anonymous No.16157626]

>>16157580
Clicking around Wikipedia?

[Anonymous No.16157627]

>>16157621
>The Stars My Destination
I'm surprised this one doesn't have a movie adaptation.

[Anonymous No.16157684]

>>16157425
Poseidon's Children

[Anonymous No.16157747]

/sffg/ belongs on /tg/ with the rest of the nerds

[Anonymous No.16157767]

>>16157747
you belong on /lgbt/ with the rest of the faggots

[Anonymous No.16157856]

I have read hundreds of books and no one has ever given me the same emotions that berserk gave me. Rec me a book as good as berserk

[Anonymous No.16157879]

>>16157856
There is no book or series of books that's like Berserk. You're shit out of luck.

[Anonymous No.16157965]

Any scifi like Phantasy Star 3?
People don't know they're on an enormous ship and the computer is going insane/malfunctioning
With or without it heading into the sun slowly?
Perhaps even thousands of years after the ship was made so they've regressed in technology?
Awful, awful gameplay. Very neat story. Good music... except the battle theme.

[Anonymous No.16157985]

>>16157965
Feersum Endjinn, kind of.

[Anonymous No.16158074]

can anyone recommend me a book similar to Mask of the sorcerer?

[Anonymous No.16158087]

>>16157965
Actually anything where a planetary computer goes insane would be great.
I know there's 2001, but... not that.
I wanna see man vs. an all powerful machine in a race to stop destruction.

[Anonymous No.16158096]

>>16157965
Maybe this.

[Anonymous No.16158104]

>>16158096
>>16157985
Thank you, these both sound really neat.

[Anonymous No.16158267]

>>16157965
Closest thing that comes to mind is Ringworld

[Anonymous No.16158416]

>>16155209
>Got my e-reader in the mail
What did you buy? Just in case I wanna get an ebook-reader too...

[Anonymous No.16158451]

I'm currently reading Armor by John Steakley and it's pretty good. I haven't read Starship Troopers but I've seen the movie and can already see similarities. Is the reference to South America intended?
Eitherway, good book so far, the Jack Crow bits are new and interesting.

[Anonymous No.16158602]

Son of the Black Sword, by Larry Correia. I'm liking it so far. Ashok is a beast, and none of the other characters are super sucky either. The bad guy is a little campy, but he is competent, which is a nice change from most fantasy books. I think I will have to read some more of this dude's books.

[Anonymous No.16158740]

>>16157447
it's a half baked turd
unfinished and likely never to be finished
and the last two books have been shit to boot

[Anonymous No.16158997]

Any other fantasy books that tackle the idea of fantastical creatures and magic crossing over to a normal human town/ society?

[Anonymous No.16159143]

>it can be worse. Forrest J. Ackerman, Forry who calls himself "4e" and invented the awful phrase "sci fi" which will surely result in his return, next life, as a doormat---calls me "&e". Oh Lord.
Books for this feel?

[Anonymous No.16159208]

>>16157965
Book of the Long Sun

[Anonymous No.16159215]

>>16158602
Put a trip on so I can filter you and your shit taste

[Anonymous No.16159380]

>>16157447
>not even finished (never will be)
>most fans agree the last few books were shit
>"great"

[Anonymous No.16159394]

>>16158074
The Wizard Knight by Gene Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.16159398]

>>16158997
The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson

[Anonymous No.16159402]

>>16159215
Based Korea still triggering the bugboys.

[Anonymous No.16159403]

>>16159380
The fans agree that the last few seasons of the tv show were shit, but the books were good, and he will finish it you just see

[Anonymous No.16159444]

>>16159403
>but the books were good
lol no. Everyone agrees the first 3 books are acceptable epic fantasy. After that it becomes obvious GERM is spinning his wheels since he can no longer subvert expectations as well as he did previously. He's never going to finish the series because he either has no idea how to finish it or the finish was going to be exactly like how the TV show finished and he saw how well that went over with fans.

[Anonymous No.16159452]

>>16159444
You're just making shit up about the public opinion there buddy

[Anonymous No.16159465]

>>16159452
No I'm not. Only a retard thinks the last few books are just as good as the first three.

[Anonymous No.16159473]

>>16159465
See here's the thing, you're acting like your opinion matters to the general public, but it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.16159482]

>>16159473
The "general public" agrees with my opinion. Even if they didn't outright hate the books after the third book they all pretty much agree the quality dropped off.

[Anonymous No.16159489]

>>16159482
quality dropped of does not mean it's shit retard.

[Anonymous No.16159497]

>>16159489
It does if your IQ is in the triple digits.

[Anonymous No.16159499]

>>16157767
Based

[Anonymous No.16159506]

>>16157856
>>16157879
Berserk is overrated trash lmao.

[Anonymous No.16159518]

>>16159497
no It doesn't faggot. Learn to read mongoloid

[Anonymous No.16159526]

>>16159518
Learn to use commas, triggered one.

[Anonymous No.16159528]

>>16159506
And yet there's nothing else like it. Sad!

[Anonymous No.16159534]

>>16159526
You are right, my mistake.
>>16159528
Berserk itself is nothing like Berserk anymore.

[Anonymous No.16159543]

>>16159534
This to be honest. The art sucks now and there's no more cool monsters like there used to be.

[Anonymous No.16159568]

why is /r/fantasy so bloody awful

[Anonymous No.16159583]

>>16159543
He went digital, so I understand the downgrade. Problem is that the series lost it's atmoshere, pacing is horrid and characters became caricatures of themselves. Obnoxious jrpg group also does not help.

[Anonymous No.16159607]

>>16159583
>pacing is horrid
Yeah he really should try to do more than two chapters a year. But let's drop the manga stuff.

[Anonymous No.16159845]

Which one on this image should I read next? I was think of Solaris. Its short enough, so I suppose it doesn't matter if its shit.

Torturer and Leibowitz ended up being some of my faves.

[Anonymous No.16159855]

>>16159568
>reddit is shit, what a bloody surprise

[Anonymous No.16159868]

Any sci-fi novels that feature lots of politics, scheming, diplomacy, that sort of thing? Something that's not too one-dimensional and about doesn't have clear villain.
Pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.16159891]

>>16159528
Because the writer "borrowed" liberally from tons of different sources. And Berserk has changed drastically over the years. It first started out as pretty blatant Sword & Sorcery (hell the first time we see Guts he's sexing up a monster woman just like the scene from Conan the Barbarian). Then it turns into epic fantasy/grimderp and stays that way for a long time. Now it's borderline family friendly litrpg. So no there's not going to be any novels quite like Berserk unless you you break it down by era. Sword & Sorcery era Berserk (which was really only right at the beginning)? There's tons of that you could read. Epic Fantasy/Grimderp era Berserk? Also tons.

[Anonymous No.16159898]

>>16159845
Read The Dying Earth, it's what inspired Wolfe to write Book of the New Sun.

[Anonymous No.16159907]

>>16159891
Take it back to /a/ please

[Anonymous No.16159973]

>>16159868
Mars Trilogy

[Anonymous No.16159979]

>>16159568
Reddit is a shithole as bad as outerlit but much much blander.

[Anonymous No.16160021]

>>16157965
>>16158087
enormous ship, going insane ... the Titan Wizard Demon trilogy by John Varley ticks all your boxes. Just skip all the centaur-human sex stuff.

[Anonymous No.16160050]

>>16159868
Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson, like the other guy said. Also all the books of Old Mans War by John Scalzi except the first one.

[Anonymous No.16160089]

>>16159898

That’s an obvious choice and I intend to read it. But, how similar is it to Torturer? I didn’t read that too long ago and don’t want to dive to quickly back into the same themes and such.

[Anonymous No.16160099]

>>16160089
>to Torturer
Wait, did you just stop reading there instead of reading the whole series? What the fuck are you doing bro?

[Anonymous No.16160128]

>got urth of the new sun for 50p today
Do I have to have read all of the book of the new sun first?

[Anonymous No.16160141]

>>16160128
If you want to understand anything at all about what's happening, that might be a good idea.

[Anonymous No.16160183]

>>16160099

Oh no, I read the series. BotNS I should say.

[Anonymous No.16160211]

>>16160183
Ah. Well it's not all that similar to be honest. Don't like it anywhere near as much, but you know, historical significance.

[Anonymous No.16160219]

>>16160128
yes, it's basically an epilogue

[Anonymous No.16160246]

warlock

[Anonymous No.16160247]

>>16159215
Didn't that book win an award for best thing ever based on fan votes? What didn't you like about it?

[Anonymous No.16160255]

You guys haven't read the last chapters of berserk do you? Lol

[Anonymous No.16160256]

>>16159402
Who gets triggered by a lolbertarian? Other than Glyer, because I know they've been feuding for years.

[Anonymous No.16160285]

>>16160255
What, the one with loli witch flying on a broom and Guts meeting the dwarf who made the berserker armor?

[Anonymous No.16160298]

>>16158997
Kind of the premise of Johnathan Strange & Mr. Norrel.

[Anonymous No.16160310]

>>16160298
What the fuck was Norrel's problem?

[Anonymous No.16160346]

>>16160285
>>16160255

There's been some good plot progression in the last couple chapters recent one especially. I read The Other Side earlier this year by Alfred Kubin and it gave me vibes similar to the Fantasia arc and I'm pretty sure one of his paintings inspired a specific scene from Berserk with Guts's parents hanging from the trees so I'd recommend that one

[Anonymous No.16160495]

>>16160310
Autism, literally. That's why they got Eddy Marsan to play him in the TV show.

[Anonymous No.16160505]

>>16160050
Don't do him dirty like that.

[Anonymous No.16160714]

>>16159868
Luna: New Moon

[Anonymous No.16160826]

Anyone check out Gideon the Ninth and the newly released part 2 of the trilogy? There's some cringe and reddit zoomer cliches but the author is a good writer besides that and it's got a cool world.

[Anonymous No.16160871]

>>16160310
Probably some kind of autism. A stereotypical sperg who shuns all social activity, has no sense of humor, no ability to read or understand the emotions or intentions of others, and can talk for hours about his own niche interests, and is completely uninterested in the opinions of others on said interests. But because he was a wealthy aristocrat people just though he was a bit weird.

[Anonymous No.16160906]

>>16160826
Yeah, I started reading the second. It's weird so far, not often you see second person perspective in a book, but it's already grown on me. Gotta give Muir credit, she knows how to get you invested and interested very quickly.

[Anonymous No.16161078]

>>16160906
>second person perspective
Yikes

[Anonymous No.16161104]

>>16161078
It actually works really well because of the circumstances in the book. The character is not themselves (dealing with insanity, misremembering things). Coupled with you knowing what the actual events were in the first book, the 2nd perspective turned out to be a great way to write the mental deterioration of the character from their perspective.

I was apprehensive to it at first, but it turned out well.

[Anonymous No.16161238]

>>16161078
I know, I was leery of it at first and kinda hoped it was just for the prologue, but she sticks with it and it actually winds up being a pretty compelling way to write an insane person. You start to feel a little insane too.

[Anonymous No.16161382]

>>16161104
>>16161238
How many books are finished?

[Anonymous No.16161569]

>>16161382
2/3

[Anonymous No.16161581]

>>16157388

[Anonymous No.16161599]

>>16161581
>morecock

[Anonymous No.16161628]

I wish my dad knew about this thread. I got a kindle on the same prime account and I looked at the history and there are ~1900 books read. Mostly scifi.
He's probably been down all the rabbit holes, and read a fair bit of self published trash since he likes to read the free complete series of things.
Speaking of, one of the books he told me about was if an alien needed to invade a planet, they needed to use the primitive's technology to do it. So aliens invaded ancient Romans, and you can probably see where that leads considering the incredible discipline of Roman soldiers and the idea that the world DID try to copy them and no one ever matched them when they did that.
Anyway I think the Romans fight them off and maybe even steal a ship or something.

Anybody know what that book is called?

[Anonymous No.16161651]

>>16161581
Nobody cares about your trite pulp.

[Anonymous No.16161665]

I liked Elric. Found it to be pretty comfy.
I only read the first book though.

[Anonymous No.16161767]

Can anyone recommend any books where decently intelligent guy goes back in time or parallel world and takes advantage of his knowledge?

[Anonymous No.16161773]

>>16157856
>>16159528
*blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.16161797]

>>16161767
Lest Darkness Fall

[Anonymous No.16161860]

>>16161628
>I wish my dad knew about this thread
> wishing 4chan on your family
why do you hate them

[Anonymous No.16161935]

>>16161651
You read Sanderson. Sit down. Be humble.

[Anonymous No.16162085]

>>16161628
He found it.
Ranks of Bronze.

They were Roman soldiers—
and they were still alive because there
were no better killers in the galaxy.

The Galactics need fighters who could win battles without the aid of technology. That's why, when Rome's legions suffered disaster at Carrhae, secretive alien traders were waiting to buy them on the Persian slave market.

Now, virtually immortal, the Romans fight strange enemies on stranger worlds; and though they win every battle, the spoils of victory never include freedom. If the legionaries are ever to return to Earth, it must be through the beam weapons and force screens of their ruthless alien owners. But no matter the odds, two thousand years is a long time; the Romans are coming home.

[Anonymous No.16162126]

Every one of these books I google has "_________ pdf" as the next search. Sad!

[Anonymous No.16162142]

>>16162085
Imagine how autistic you have to be to write something like that

[Anonymous No.16162197]

>>16162126
Yeah, imaging reading books as pdfs and not epubs.

[Anonymous No.16162276]

>>16162142
A lot less autistic than you, anon.

[Anonymous No.16162281]

Nethereal is a fun book and all, but is Jaren actually retarded?
>Goes against a literal king of hell, strongest one at that, with his right hand man bound to its service and his oneitis, who is from a civilization also under its rule.
>Has said thot hide the very same stones this lord of hell wants among her people, who previously showed interest in them to appease their lord.
>Made time-sensitive plans outside of hell, a place where time doesn't exactly make sense relative to the outside.
>Takes a necromancer along whose motives are questionable at best.
>Barely even made it out of hell the last time after getting fucked over and played by everyone.
This isn't even all.
I suppose I'll keep reading. Surely this will all make sense soon enough. Hell chapters are the most fun anyway.

[Anonymous No.16162299]

>>16159845
Roadside Picnic is a solid pick

Lathe of Heaven is eh

Dying Earth is great

The Last Question and Nightfall make up some of Asimov's best writing while also being short and easy

[Anonymous No.16162355]

>>16161935
Not at all. But go ahead, keep shilling your read-one-and-you've-read-'em-all poorly written trite pulp.

[Anonymous No.16162366]

>>16162355
Can anyone explain what's up with Sanderson and why people hate him so much?

[Anonymous No.16162405]

>>16162355
Please leave, bugman.

[Anonymous No.16162411]

>>16162366
Magic systems and Shallan chapters. That's enough bullshit to hate any writer.

[Anonymous No.16162420]

>>16162411
what's the deal with shallan?

[Anonymous No.16162509]

Well that was miserable. Think I'm going to take a break before the liveship books.

[Anonymous No.16162518]

>>16161581
me on the left

[Anonymous No.16162556]

>>16162142
I think it sounds fun. All we hear about is how disciplined Roman soldiers were and how they were the best fighters.
Put that together with aliens who have some sort of need for primitive soldiers and there you go. Earth's most militaristic empire vs aliens. Who's better at war?

[Anonymous No.16162562]

>>16162366
Read his books and find our for yourself. Shallan is definitely painful as fuck though.

>>16162509
I prefer the Liveship Traders, and in fact it's one of my favourite series of all time, but I also enjoy the first trilogy so I recognise it's not for everyone. If the thing you didn't like was the uneven pacing and consistent yet frustrating character behaviour then these issues are greatly lessened in Liveship Traders.

[Anonymous No.16162591]

>>16162366
No writer should use the word "intricate" or its derivations more than 10 times per book.

[Anonymous No.16162604]

>>16161382
It's billed as a trilogy and the second book came out like last week. So probably another year til it's finished.

[Anonymous No.16162845]

>>16162509
why?
I quite liked it.

[Anonymous No.16162961]

>>16162420
oof
>>16162845
yikes

[Anonymous No.16162985]

>>16158602
He’s one of the only red pilled fantasy authors out there.

[Anonymous No.16163026]

>>16162509
Tawny man trilogy is much better. I didn’t finish the third fitz trilogy it was even more depressing than the first

[Anonymous No.16163100]

>>16162604
>>16161104
>>16160906
>>16160826
/sffg/ group read of it ended today,

[Anonymous No.16163114]

>>16157545
read The Pillars of the Earth

[Anonymous No.16163233]

>>16157545
D&D has a reading list that's pretty good for an education in fantasy literature
https://www.dicegeeks.com/dnd-recommended-reading/

[Anonymous No.16163323]

I want to fuck a spider.

[Anonymous No.16163325]

>>16162518
baste

[Anonymous No.16163406]

>>16160128
Yes, and you'd be doing yourself a huge disservice by not reading BotNS first.

[Anonymous No.16163450]

https://pastebin.com/f8GLG04m
If anybody has too much free time, I want to see if this is a concept worth pushing. I think there's no better time for blue collar sci-fi

[Anonymous No.16163470]

Lud-in-the-mist hit that sweet mischievous mercurial fairy spot that I really love, they were creepy and capricious in all the right ways and the author had commendable prose and turns of phrase. Loved the little tidbits of world building and folk beliefs she intertwined in the story all about fairy lore.

[Anonymous No.16163477]

>>16163406
I'm reading it now and while it's certainly great it's no LotR. The number of coincidences is absolutely astonishing. He first ran into the Autarch on his own while completely lost roaming the gigantic palace. This was after coincidentally discovering a hole in the wall of the prison he was in, after erroneously being thrown into the prison for no reason. Then he ran into Agia again in the jungle north of Thrax even though it was massive and essentially uninhabited. Then he ran into the previous ruler of the universe in the same jungle and revived him from some sort of stasis. None of this is planned. Also this is where I'm up to now, I apologise if this is retroactively justified but it seems unlikely.

[Anonymous No.16163485]

>>16163477
>coincidences bad!

[Anonymous No.16163562]

>>16161767
Daniel Black.

[Anonymous No.16163567]

>>16163485
Deus ex machina is indeed poor writing

[Anonymous No.16163569]

>>16163485

[Anonymous No.16163592]

>>16163477
>>16163485
>coincidences
>BOTNS
lol

[Anonymous No.16163594]

>>16163450

[Anonymous No.16163606]

>>16163594
You're sitting in the chair by replying that means you have to read it

[Anonymous No.16163607]

>>16163562
fuck off e william brown

[Anonymous No.16163617]

>>16163606
>You're sitting in the chair

[Anonymous No.16163652]

ATTENTION TO THE ANON WHO SHILLS THE “DEL RAY BOOKS”

Brrooo I tried to get to you on the other thread where the guy was like “aargh the The Complete Chronicles Of Conan: Centenary Edition (Hardback) fckin suuucks something something Conan finds a pawg... etc.”
Anyway I was gonna respond to you being like (imagine I replied to one of your posts in the last thread as follows: [this is if I even find you here, though I have a feeling you might, I know you love your Conan threads you little bastard])
Brooo I’ve been meaning to get to you, and btw you’re very based, but I just need to know... it’s been a few many days since hog posted on the sffg regarding the Conan collections and you were saying how, aside from your obvi fav: the del ray collections, (pic related) allot of the collections including your most despised The Complete Chronicles Of Conan: Centenary Edition (Hardback) are edited to shit.
Anyway brother what I’m trying to get at is brother,,, I’ve already (and unlike the last Conan poster who posted the The Complete Chronicles Of Conan: Centenary Edition [Hardback] Picture, I’m not a faggot and didn’t kill a thread post it) bought it you see :(... I had it even when I asked you all those sffg threads back... this is bad because I don’t (and I completely believe you, remember how I said how based I know you are for your vault of knowledge on these subjects) want to buy a whole new collection. Soooo as I was saying, and tho I’ve seen you mention it off-handedly, I need to know for sure... is thee :The Complete Chronicles Of Conan: Centenary Edition (Hardback) that gayley edited so where I can’t read it? Believe me I know all that’s you’ve said, I’m just asking if it’s cool to read. That’s it. Is it cool if I just fucking read it. You’re the deciding factor, if you tell me straight up, “nah this shits gay I’m litterally telling you not to read it and buy the del ray” I’ll fucking do it bro. But if you’re like whatever bro it’s chill.... brooo. Lmk

[Anonymous No.16163666]

>>16161599
This

[Anonymous No.16163729]

>>16161767
Reverend Insanity

[Anonymous No.16163796]

>>16163592
So it will be explained later?

[Anonymous No.16163809]

>>16163652
>Is it cool if I just fucking read it.
Yes it's cool. It's not completely edited to shit or anything like that (though Conanchads did have to put up with edited-to-shit stories for decades); you just won't be getting the full Conan experience as REH originally intended (or the awesome art littered throughout the books). The Del Rey books are just the absolute top tier Conan collection; that doesn't mean other collections are complete dog shit. So you have my blessing to read it and not feel bad.

[Anonymous No.16163875]

>>16163809
Also: If any anons are ever interested in checking out Kane by Karl Edward Wagner do NOT buy those books that came out a few years ago with the terrible art. Not only are they edited, but they're WOKE edited. Absolute bullshit. Stay the fuck away from pic related and every other Kane release from Gateway Essentials (and possibly any other S&S release from them that's slightly edgy.)

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.16163887]

>>16157388
Harrow the Ninth, The Locked Tomb, #2 - Tamsyn Muir (2020)
This is a work of metafanfiction, which is to say that a significant portion of the novel is fanfiction of itself. This was a problem for me because I have minimal interest in fanfiction. The majority of the novel is told through a second person perspective. It has at least as many memes and pop culture references as the first book. Unfortunately, I felt a lot of them detracted from the experience for me. I dislike it when a book does the same thing to the reader as the characters are going through so that the reader supposedly relates to the characters more. My expectations were too high going into this. I was very confused what to think about it all the way through the end and then even for a while afterwards. I briefly considered rating this as two stars, mostly out of disappointment of how my speculations while reading were a wasted endeavor. The ending wasn't much of a pay-off for me, so I didn't have that as a consolation either. Novelty for the sake of novelty isn't something I usually am able to appreciate. My personal opinion is that Muir was only somewhat less self-destructive* than Harrow with the structuring of this novel. The dialogue seems to be major draw for many, but it wasn't for me. I'll certainly be reading the third, but my expectations have now been appropriately chastened. After finishing this, I found myself reconsidering much in general and not only about this series. That being said, I knew from the start of the first book that I was well outside the target demographic, but it seems I forgot that between books.
Rating: 3/5

*As according to consensus reality this isn't the case based on how much others have enjoyed it and thought it was a wonderful idea.

[Anonymous No.16163947]

>>16163887
>metafanfiction
What the hell is that? Do you need to read other fanfiction or is the fanfiction in-universe so to speak?

[Anonymous No.16163957]

>>16163947
He explained it in the next few words retard

[Anonymous No.16163974]

>>16163887
>female writer
>female protag (who's also a dyke)
>modern
>second person narration
Sounds like a cornucopia of cringe to me.

[Anonymous No.16163975]

>>16163957
memes and narrator perspective, and his opinion on the book does not explain what metafanfiction is.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.16164014]

>>16163975
Metafanfiction is something that may or may not exist, but that's what I'm calling it, similar to how I called The Traitor Baru Cormorant, a "secondary world historical fiction". Explaining entirely would be a major plot spoiler. Though, what do you have trouble with understanding when I say the original is also fanfiction of itself? It's self-referential within the apparent established structure of fanfiction culture.

[Anonymous No.16164049]

>>16164014
>It's self-referential within the apparent established structure of fanfiction culture.
I'm not saying you're wrong, namefag, but maybe provide some examples of what you mean? I'm curious about your "metafanfiction" theory and how it applies to hot garbage like the book you read.

[Anonymous No.16164078]

>>16163875
>>16163809
Holy shit, I love you bro, thank you for responding

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.16164087]

>>16164049
Sure, for anyone else, these are major spoilers.
Muir has stated that one of the worst things about being an author is that she is unable to read fanfiction of her works for legal reasons. There are several chapters where she writes random absurd scenarios, many using apparent fanfiction tropes. Basically she is writing them as if she were someone else writing fanfiction of her characters and includes that as part of the story.

[Anonymous No.16164091]

>>16164014
>It's self-referential
That explains it. That along the second person narrative sounds like Calvino's If on a Winter's Night a Traveler.

[Anonymous No.16164105]

>>16163809
I’ve seen you around anon, I dig how knowledgeable you are on these subjects >>16163875

[Anonymous No.16164116]

>>16164087
Oh man yea that sounds awful.

[Anonymous No.16164175]

>>16164087
>she is unable to read fanfiction of her works for legal reasons
Who would know?

[Anonymous No.16164218]

is it wrong of me to get so mad at genre fic writers killing characters i like that i quit reading the book? i'm here for escapism, i just want to see my bros beat the big evil and live happily ever after

[Anonymous No.16164228]

>>16164218
It's not wrong, but I don't think it's that difficult to tell whether it's going to be that sort of book or not. Pure escapism books tend to advertise that they are and so do the opposite sort.

[Anonymous No.16164234]

>>16164228
When you start killing main characters four books into the series, it's a little harder to tell. There's only one book left, so I feel compelled to finish it out, but it still hurts

[Anonymous No.16164249]

>>16164234
You don't owe author anything so there's nothing wrong with stopping.

[Anonymous No.16164271]

>>16164175
Is that even a thing? How could a writer be LEGALLY forbidden from reading fanfiction of their own work?

[Anonymous No.16164280]

>>16164271
It isn't forbidden, it's because of legal problems they could get into for doing so. Various authors have been sued for saying that the author stole their ideas.

[Anonymous No.16164285]

>>16164271
Might just be cautionary on the part of the publisher. I know that MTG card designers aren't allowed to look at fan-designs for cards to avoid getting sued for intellectual property theft.

[Anonymous No.16164287]

https://fanlore.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley_Fanfiction_Controversy

[Anonymous No.16164288]

>>16164271
I think it's to prevent them from "accidentally stealing and using fanfiction ideas in their work." It's more than likely forbidden by publisher rather than illegal. But what are they going to do? Search her browsing history? They likely don't have the power to do that. If someone raises a fit that your story somehow resembles some fanfiction all you'd have to do is feign ignorance.

[Anonymous No.16164290]

>>16164280
>Various authors have been sued for saying that the author stole their ideas.

Oooooh, I'm morbidly curious see some examples.

[Anonymous No.16164296]

Abolish Intellectual Property

[Anonymous No.16164308]

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/02/13/the-plagiarists-tale

[Anonymous No.16164336]

/sffg/, I got my first new novel idea in over a year today but I'm not obsessed with it yet. what should I do?

[Anonymous No.16164348]

>>16164336
Kill Your Darlings

[Anonymous No.16164494]

>>16164218
It's fine to be a manchild I guess

[Anonymous No.16164496]

>>16164494
Here's the response I was expecting, thanks bro

[Anonymous No.16164521]

>>16164496
Will you use it to grow as a person?

[Anonymous No.16164527]

>>16164521
I will not, fantasy will remain my refuge for when I want to indulge the whims of my id.

[Anonymous No.16164667]

>>16162509
All I remember was the super disappointing ending. Also those books made me hate the word "coterie".

[Anonymous No.16164948]

>>16163100
As I recall it was some discord group, not /sffg/. I don't participate in discord groups for the same reason I don't visit gay night clubs.

[Anonymous No.16164959]

does anyone have a digital version of Drowntide sydney j van scyoc

[Anonymous No.16165046]

>>16160310
Autism.

[Anonymous No.16165052]

Explain what's wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.16165126]

>>16165052
Nothing in itself. Its authors that are the problem.

[Anonymous No.16165337]

>>16165052
There's a dual problem of too much gatekeeping for real publishing and too little gatekeeping for self publishing, which results in any good self published fiction getting buried under oceans of shit, while traditional publishing houses broadly refuse to actually publish anything worth reading.
As a result you have to sift through thousands of chinkshit and gameshit titles before you can even hope to find an actual novel.

[Anonymous No.16165580]

>>16157425
A Living Soul by P C Jersild
> A comfy slice of life about a brain in a jar that gradually gets to know the other inhabitants of the lab.

[Anonymous No.16165705]

>>16165337
That's why you use audiobooks.
There is an 80% chance that it's good if money was paid for it to be translated to audio.

[Anonymous No.16165712]

>>16165580
did Sanderson steal his short story from this book? But brains in a jar have been a meme for decades.

[Anonymous No.16165715]

>>16165705
That's a good idea. I think I'll try and filter by things that have audiobooks a bit.

[Anonymous No.16165720]

>>16165052
far-left subversion, like everything else these days

[Anonymous No.16165724]

>>16165712
Sorry I've only read one book by the author you mention and that didn't have any brain jars, only coins. A Living Soul was published in 1980 if that matters.

[Anonymous No.16165977]

>>16163450
I read Chapter 1. I enjoyed the premise and I hope you continue to flesh it out. I am sad that there is not a full book to read.

Feed back:
1. I assume there will be some later tie-in with Kennedy's assassination, but I had some trouble believing there already was a moon base in 1963 while the actual moon landing didn't happen until 1969. Of course this is sci-fi, not history. There is a faster than light Kinetic Drive, so the reader has a hint that space development happened more rapidly or started earlier than our timeline. A few more over the course of the story would be nice.

2. I was a little confused if Brody's father was an aeromechanic or a normal mechanic. This may be related to (1).

3. I really enjoyed that this is told from the construction worker side of things. This niche seems to be mostly empty. I get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_Mile_(manga) vibes from it.

4. Will Brody and Maksim hatefuck or sabotage each other. I'm not sure, but either way works.

picture not related.

[Anonymous No.16166041]

>>16165977
>>16163450
>replying to yourself in hopes that others might see the positive reply and give your aspiring author as a try
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.16166182]

>>16165052
it hates wonder and mystery

[Anonymous No.16166182,1]

/sffg, recommend me something long, and with literary depth. Preferably fantasy but science fiction is also welcome.
I already read:
GGK
R. Scott Bakker
Gene Wolfe
Tolkien

[Anonymous No.16166505]

>anna chapters
>mao bitch' chapters
I don't think I can finish it bros. Please tell me it gets better.

[Anonymous No.16166520]

Anyone here read the Essalieyan series? I started The Hidden City and enjoyed the beginning, but I'm on page 470 of 750 and things have stalled and I don't care about any of the new characters. I get that J is likely going to become the main character and start her own den, which sucks because Rath is way cooler, but what sort of stuff am I looking at for the rest of the series? Does the plot pick back up within this book? They just rescued a bunch of geeks from a brothel and then the following 100 pages have basically been J talking about how Duster is a bad person.

[Anonymous No.16166522]

>>16166505
Not really, it gets significantly worse then kind of okay for a bit then shoots itself in the foot again. The first book is the only one in the series that was actually interesting.

[Anonymous No.16166572]

So, what was the most exhilarating genre fiction book you ever read?

[Anonymous No.16166682]

>>16164948
People don't discuss well in the thread.

[Anonymous No.16166761]

>>16166505
>Hollywood blockbuster in book form
Bruh

[Anonymous No.16166792]

Where should I start with Lord Dunsany?

[Anonymous No.16166803]

>>16166792
King of Elfland's Daughter obviously

[Anonymous No.16166940]

>>16164078
>>16164105
Based

[Anonymous No.16166946]

>>16166803
I heard his short stories are better

[Anonymous No.16166977]

>>16166946
This is true for almost every writer. Stephen King's short stories are way better than his novels for example.

[Anonymous No.16167113]

Started Iron Council. Heard this book is extremely blackpilled.

[Anonymous No.16167185]

>>16167113
say no to books written by communists who have silly names

[Anonymous No.16167383]

>>16157965
Remnants K.A. Applegate

[Anonymous No.16167386]

>>16167185
>Vagina Melvin
Bongs... I swear.

[Anonymous No.16167388]

>>16159465
I must be retarded then, since DoD was fucking 5 stars

[Anonymous No.16167402]

Is Conan worth reading? Does it still hold up?

[Anonymous No.16167429]

>>16167402
Yes and yes.

[Anonymous No.16167455]

>>16157388
I was looking at a list for good new scifi to read and Pierce Brown had a bunch of very highly rated books. You guys like him? I watch a youtube video with him and it seems he's a 30 year old guy and all his fans are mid twenties 5-6/10 ladies

[Anonymous No.16167532]

>>16167402
Yes. And not only does it still hold up, but it feels FRESH compared to all the politically correct epic fantasy that's been coming out on a regular basis for years.

[Anonymous No.16167775]

>>16167455
yeah chicks love him because he is a good looking chad

[Anonymous No.16167784]

>>16167455
>and all his fans are mid twenties 5-6/10 ladies
Then you already know the quality of his work.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.16167791]

>>16157388
Best Served Cold, First Law World #4 - Joe Abercrombie (2009)
This was much closer to what I thought First Law would be like rather than how the trilogy went. In terms of media I've experienced, I'd describe it as Assassin's Creed + Ocean's 11 + The Expendables. That may have been a problem for those expecting more of the same. Everyone else in the /sffg/ group who wrote a review about it rated it two stars, though the average rating by the group is much higher. There were a few annoyances that prevented me from rating this 5 stars, mostly in terms of character development. Unlike in The Last Argument of Kings I didn't dislike all the major characters by the end, though that didn't prevent me from quite enjoying that book for other reasons. I enjoyed that there was some character overlap with the previous three books. I don't think there are many series where the author has taken the approach of writing standalone books, or other series for that matter, that feature characters from the main series. I've read a few others that have done similarly. I have considerable experience with shared world franchises, so it's something I'm familiar with and have enjoyed.
Rating: 4/5

[Anonymous No.16167833]

>>16167791
read The Heroes and don't bother with the books he wrote after because he declined as a writer

[Anonymous No.16167945]

>>16166182
This is the big one, it is a genre that heavily relies on tropes but by its definition fantasy should be the least reliant on tropes of anything.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.16167971]

>>16167833
I will be reading them, because I'm not concerned about the "decline" you are probably referring to based on how I've seen A Little Hatred described in the thread. If you mean otherwise, let me know.

[Anonymous No.16167974]

>This is the big one, it is a genre that heavily relies on tropes but by its definition fantasy should be the least reliant on tropes of anything.

[Anonymous No.16168244]

>>16167974
>making this post

[Anonymous No.16168376]

>>16167455
First one reads like Count of Monte Cristo meets Hunger Games. Did not bother with the rest.

[Anonymous No.16168525]

>>16163567
A good ending lowered down on a rope is better than a bad ending.

[Anonymous No.16168589]

Why we hate rothfuss again?

[Anonymous No.16168603]

>>16168589
He writes cuck fantasy for leftoids.

[Anonymous No.16168648]

>>16168589
He wrote a book that was an interesting set-up for something more.
Then he wrote the same book again but this time the protagonist has sex with a sex goddess and becomes a karate master too and invents all kinds of cool shit that nobody else ever thought of because he's so special and smart and he's still in school because Rothfuss couldn't figure out at all what to do with him and then when he finally gets kicked out Rothfuss realizes he has nowhere to take the story so he just said he won't write the third book until Trump is impeached.
The fact is that I don't like it.

[Anonymous No.16168753]

>>16168589
What is the point of the book being told as a story in the present?
You'dd think he could do something with that, like having present Kvothe offer commentary on his past actions with the wisdom of hindsight, he NEVER does that though.
The to stories are so separated, they are basically separate people in different worlds
World went to shit, and now Kvothe is sad, I get it (also Satyrs are real). But was the the entire point? Rothfus had no plan, and not appearently not clever enough to utelize his settup
When an author pulls a fat meme gimmick like that, I would like it to be for a reason. And not just to teach 15 year-olds the concept of "unreliable narrator"

Also what other guys said about second book went in an awful direction

[Anonymous No.16168930]

>>16165977
Thank you very much for the feedback, it's the little push my brain type needs to keep at it. The plan is alternative history but only slightly, so that while a faster than light drive was stumbled upon it will still feature other limitations
Thanks also for the manga rec, Planetes was one of my favorite and an inspiration for wanting to try to write this kind of book
>>16166041
I asked nicely, someone responded. You could have gone your whole life not responding to either of these posts but here we are

[Anonymous No.16168997]

>>16165052
Women and leftism

[Anonymous No.16169001]

>>16166522
>The Expanse
This.
The only one mildly worth of reading was the first book in the series. It got pretty disappointing after that.

[Anonymous No.16169033]

his best work???

[Anonymous No.16169099]

>>16168753
You're not wrong and book 2 is pointless.
But frame narratives are cool, and the unreliable narrator thing makes it more suspenseful.
Until book 3 comes out or the series is finished it makes no sense to judge whether it had a point or not.

[Anonymous No.16169304]

>>16168589
he's the epitome of the fat nerd who played too much D&D and watched too much porn

[Anonymous No.16169314]

>>16166792
Lords of Pegana
Time and the Gods
The Sword of Welleran

[Anonymous No.16169418]

>>16158740
>>16159380
The fourth book is indeed shit, but the fifth one is great.

[Anonymous No.16169445]

>>16168589
The first book and the first half of the second book are ok. I had no idea what I was getting into when I started The Name Of The Wind and I was actually loving it until Kvothe went to the University. Then it turned into a edgier Harry Potter which was really not what I wanted to read at the time (nothing wrong with HP itself). Still, it was somewhat enjoyable anyway. The second half of A Wise Man's Fear though is a complete trainwreck.

[Anonymous No.16169485]

>tfw bro is a fan of kingkiller and its the only series he owns
>never reads anything i recommend
Makes me kind of sad desu. I wish I could discuss some of the books I've enjoyed with him.

[Anonymous No.16169535]

>>16169485
If you assert dominance by raping him then he'll read the books you suggest.

[Anonymous No.16169597]

>>16169535
Thats kind of gay though. And he's not even very fit any more(no homo)

[Anonymous No.16169599]

>>16165720
>>16168997
Cope chuds.

[Anonymous No.16169614]

>>16163809
Bought the del rays for my sister on your rec
I'm counting on you

[Anonymous No.16169641]

>>16169599
>chuds
It's like the 'bad' word that mommy lets you use

[Anonymous No.16169660]

>>16169614
>sister
Go on...

[Anonymous No.16169707]

>>16168589
He had a very big debut, people too young to remember when his first book came out don't know how much he was hyped up. He was the rising star of the fantasy world, everybody had huge hopes for his series. His first book had so much promise. The narrative was a classic rags to riches story with some boarding school stuff, plus tons of ancient mysteries. Kvothe throughout the first book is driven to solve the mystery of why his parents were killed, an unravel ancient legends. The book moves at a fairly brisk pace, following Kvothe from early childhood to early adulthood. So people were very eager to see book 2. It took him several years to write it, but people were patient for the new scion of high fantasy.

And then book 2 was very underwhelming. The pacing ground to a halt. Instead of investigating mysteries and learning magic Kvothe learned kung fu, got rich off his brilliant ideas, traveled the world and had sex with the queen of the fairies, who enjoyed it so much she made him a magic cloak knitted out of moonlight (no really). Absolutely nothing is done to advance what most people considered the main plot of the story (accounting for how Kvothe in the past wound up as Kvothe the inkeeper in the present). None of the major plot points dangled in front of us in book 1 were addressed: he didn't kill any kings, he didn't get expelled from the University, he didn't figure out anything about the Chandrian or any of the ancient legends he'd been so interested in during book 1. It was a whole lot of faffing around really, the kind of stuff you'd expect in a side story anthology like "the travels and adventures of kvothe" not something holding up the entire main plot of the second book of one of the most anticipated series from a highly acclaimed author.

And then after this he just stopped writing. He published some poems, some short stories, but who knows how long he was sitting on those? Might've had them saved from when he was in school for all we know. It's been a decade since he published anything to do with the series that made him famous in the first place. And what really makes people salty is that the whole time he's been not finishing his series, he's been living it up like a celebrity author, attending cons and doing Q&As like he's still some kind of bigshot. He acts like an insufferably smug cunt in public, even though his only real claim to fame is writing one book with a lot of promise and then not delivering on it.

[Anonymous No.16169718]

>>16169707
It wasn’t a “lot of promise” it was generic and filled with tropes

[Anonymous No.16169731]

>>16169718
The only really tropy part was the University, which is bog standard boarding school narrative stuff. There was a lot in the story that was interesting and captivating to readers of high fantasy in his setting. And in the character of Kvothe too. It's not by any means an original idea to do the story-within-a-story framing device but it was executed well here, and adds a bit of depth to an otherwise straight forward narrative that Rothfuss was clearly conscious of using (at least in book 1).

[Anonymous No.16169733]

>>16169718
you're being bitter, The Name of the Wind was a great debut novel

[Anonymous No.16169745]

>>16169718
lol, whatever. it was critically acclaimed

[Anonymous No.16169746]

>>16169733
It was a normal “magic school coming of age “ fantasy story of which you can read hundreds published before hand

[Anonymous No.16169771]

Sure, I can imagine the school setting is cliche.
But, I sure as hell haven't read any books in a boarding school setting before.

[Anonymous No.16169793]

>>16169746
it was very fun and compelling in execution

[Anonymous No.16169805]

>>16169771
What

[Anonymous No.16169854]

>>16169771
The Magicians

Be warned it’s gay and depressing.

[Anonymous No.16169866]

>>16169746
Can't believe you guys read 100 “magic school coming of age “ books

[Anonymous No.16169888]

>>16169866
It’s like the most common fantasy book....
Look at lord of the rings

[Anonymous No.16170093]

>>16169888
Middle-earth Gakuen by Japanese Tolkien?

[Anonymous No.16170174]

>>16163477
>>16163592
Finished book 3, and the coincidences piled up to astronomical levels. After his accidental run in with the ruler of the universe, the MC then ran into the same people he had run into coincidentally at least 3 times previously, again in the middle of the jungle.

[Anonymous No.16170346]

>>16157388
>Fall of Hyperion
>Because it's not Hyperion

[Anonymous No.16170535]

>>16170174
>coincidences
>BOTNS
This nigga still ain't gettin' it

[Anonymous No.16170630]

About to start Cornwell’s Warlord Chronicles. What will I think of it?

[Anonymous No.16170643]

>>16170174
NEVER gonna get it

[Anonymous No.16170647]

Anyone else read Star Wars books?

[Anonymous No.16170676]

>>16170630
Out of what i read of Cornwell, this series is the best one. Whether his best stuff will be good is up to you.

[Anonymous No.16170685]

Read Annihilation (it was ok)
then read Borne/Strange bird (loved it)
Now i picked up this and just started it earlier, looks like I'm gonna like and and where to go from here?

[Anonymous No.16170723]

>>16170535
>>16170643
You sound like teenage girls. Care to explain?

[Anonymous No.16170772]

>>16170723
Anon, the point is that these aren't coincidences. BoTNS is a series that is rich and dense in Catholicism. The point is that if you're this far in and haven't realized the parallels then you're never going to understand the books.

[Anonymous No.16170784]

>>16159845
I kind of liked Lathe of Heaven, honestly I like her Hainish cycle books more though

[Anonymous No.16170822]

>>16170772
This is like saying the Big Bang Theory is good because it is dense in Star Trek references. It still has to be internally sensical.

[Anonymous No.16170833]

>>16170772
Book recommendations for fans of Soul Reaver?

[Anonymous No.16170854]

>>16170676
I’m only reading it because other authors I like recommend it, so should be fine. Feel like Arthurian stuff is a little worn out so hoping it’s not going to be stale because I know the story beats.

[Anonymous No.16170870]

>>16159380
endings are overrated, they're almost always shit

[Anonymous No.16170890]

>>16170822
>This is like saying the Big Bang Theory is good because it is dense in Star Trek references
It's not similar at all. It's a very stupid paper thing comparison. The religious themes are actually built into the story, but you seem kinda dumb, which explains why you'd call them "references".
>It still has to be internally sensical.
It is. Have you stopped to consider people have stakes on Severian? That Agia might be trying to get revenge? That there are some external forces at play? You call them coincidences. As if a dying earth story with one of the most clueless protagonists in the history of SF should make sense to your modern day autism.
Maybe read some Agatha Christie or something.

[Anonymous No.16170891]

>>16170854
It tries to be less of a fairytale in favor of being more realistic, so maybe you'll not find it stale. The main character is a made up one that witness the Arthurian legend along with the others, so at least his story will be new to you.

Also, in this one Merlin is dangerously based

[Anonymous No.16170899]

>>16163796
Yeah

[Anonymous No.16170933]

>>16170822
>It still has to be internally sensical
Well, it does. Finish the series.

[Anonymous No.16170966]

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https://discord.gg/FNcpuuA
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[Anonymous No.16171000]

>>16170899
>>16170933
Thanks anons.

[Anonymous No.16171008]

>>16170822
You're still proving you don't get it. I never said BoTNS was good, although it is. I'm trying to explain that you seemingly have no knowledge of the parallels involved and are criticizing the book because you don't, or refuse, to understand or look them up. As >>16170890 explains, you're not bothering to think about this. Who would have guessed that Severian encounters the woman trying to get revenge on him. Or that a series with a heavy emphasis on God might have some form of divine intervention, as though God might have some kind of plan. You've gotten past book one, but act like this is all coincidence when it should have been obvious by now that it clearly isn't. That's why you're being mocked anon. Wolfe's writing has layers on layers and you're not even picking up on a single one of them. And then you complain that you don't get it.

[Anonymous No.16171018]

What the fuck did I just read?

[Anonymous No.16171044]

>>16170833
Knights of Dark Renown
Elric

[Anonymous No.16171085]

>>16170966
Subscribed on Google Play.

[Anonymous No.16171365]

>>16159208
Can't believe discworld was ahead of this

[Anonymous No.16171641]

>>16157388
What are the best books/short stories for someone that just realized Sword'n Sorcery is the fucking coolest after reading the original Conan shorts?

[Anonymous No.16171771]

>>16171641
You could read stories by other characters REH created: Solomon Kane, Bran Mak Morn, and Kull. Clark Ashton Smith also wrote some S&S stories in his Zothique tales, but they're different from REH's Conan tales; more morbid and dark and less action focused. And there's also all this:

Select stories by Schuyler Hernstrom. He's writing some of the best modern S&S (and Vancian fiction).
Imaro by Charles Saunders.
The Voidal by Adrian Cole.
Rogues of Merth by Robert Zoltan (blatant Fafhrd and Gray Mouser homage, but entertaining).
Fafhrd and Gray Mouser by Fritz Leiber.
Elric by Michael Moorcock.
Gonji by TC Rypel
Berserker trilogy by Robert Holdstock
Far Away & Never by Ramsey Campbell
Bard by Keith Taylor
The Chronicles of Caylen-Tor by Byron Roberts
Bloodsong trilogy by C. Dean Andersson (hesitant recommendation).
The Incompleat Nift by Michael Shea.
Conan: Road of Kings and Legion from the Shadows by Karl Edward Wagner
Conan and the Emerald Lotus by John Hocking

[Anonymous No.16171775]

>>16171771
Oh shit, thanks anon!
This is one hell of a recommendation, absolutely based

[Anonymous No.16171825]

You are all faggots

[Anonymous No.16171838]

>>16171825
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.16171866]

>>16171775
Based

[Anonymous No.16171882]

>>16171641
>>16171775
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Valley_of_the_Worm

Read this as well. Little known S&S story from REH that's fantastic.

[Anonymous No.16171899]

>>16171771
whats the best entry point for someone who has never read S&S but usually reads epic fantasy?

[Anonymous No.16171932]

>>16171899
As far as EASING one's way into S&S if all you've ever read is epic fantasy I would suggest the Drenai series by David Gemmell. They're like S&S stories in an epic fantasy framework; if that makes sense. I would personally recommend The First Chronicles of Druss the Legend. It's the closest of the Drenai novels to S&S because each chapter almost feels like a short story.

[Anonymous No.16172198]

Are there any sci-fi books that capture roadside picnics bleak / nonsensical alien hellscape vibes. The closest I can describe it is the SCP writing blogs online but actually good. I love the whole man trying to survive in a nonsensical hostile hellscape thing roadside picnic had.

[Anonymous No.16172203]

>>16172198
Read more Strgatskis honestly. Beetle in the Anthill is exceptional.

[Anonymous No.16172232]

>"pay denbts!!!"
>Actually I've set up a derivatives trading company that will implode when I announce that I have no intention to pay the debt we owe, and it's so heavily leveraged by your banks that it would cause an economic collapse wiping out your entire power base, so I think we should come to other arrangements.
Why can't every political squabble be solved this way?

[Anonymous No.16172254]

Just finished this.
My favourite K Dick so far (High Castle, Ubik, Do Androids Dream).
Will be reading Scanner Darkly next, would love to hear what you guys think. Will I enjoy it more or less than pic related?

[Anonymous No.16172268]

>>16172254
Scanner Darkly is his best imho, but your mileage will vary with PKD

[Anonymous No.16172271]

>>16172254
I thought Dick handled the Police state very well in this. You see how even the good cops are tempted (or forced) to act like bad cops in order to ensure their own survival within the system. The characters and scenes were a lot more varied and vivid than in the other books of his I listed. Would recommend.

[Anonymous No.16172278]

>>16172268
Awesome I'm very keen. Ubik was probably my second favourite and High Castle was my least so based on that I think I will enjoy A Scanner Darkly.

[Anonymous No.16172883]

So I haven't ordered any new books since this whole corona thing started. Is it safe to do so now? I mean, I get that there's a chance of getting the virus one way or another every time I leave the house for basic necessities, just trying to be cautious. Ordering through BookDepository, got Viriconium, The Stars My Destination and The Night Land on my list.

[Anonymous No.16172892]

>>16172883
Don't they have Google in your country? A virus will only survive in conditions like postage for a very short time, the risk is non-existent.

[Anonymous No.16173107]

>>16172892
>A virus will only survive in conditions like postage for a very short time, the risk is non-existent.
Not the guy you are responding to but in lab testing corona survived up to a week on surfaces.
>>16172883
That being said unless you have a pre-existing medical condition such as immune system weakening conditions chances are you are not gonna even notice that you have the coofs. Thats how it is for most people. Its not really that harmful but highly infectious and many people develop immunities after having it. There was this case in a ski resort town in switzerland where pretty much everyone there got it but no one noticed cause they had no symptoms and no one died from but. They like 80% of the town developed an immunity to it without ever knowing that they had it.

[Anonymous No.16173116]

>>16168603
>>16168589
Basically this

[Anonymous No.16173121]

>>16173107
In perfect conditions. On surfaces like cardboard in hot postage facilities it will be minutes.

[Anonymous No.16173136]

>>16173116
Thanks for reminding me of that.
Dear Patrick seems to have realized the error of his ways though, I doubt there will ever be a book 3. His editor came out and publicly said that she hasn't read a word of book 3 in the 9 years since the release of the last book.

[Anonymous No.16173142]

>>16173121
Unfortunately lab testing showed corona is not as affected by heat or cold and only requires very little moisture to survive. Humid air seems to be enough for it to survive on.

[Anonymous No.16173304]

>>16172883
>people actually live in fear such as this
Holy shit anon.

[Anonymous No.16173345]

>>16173304
But what if they caught the flu? Isn't the risk worth derailing the thread for?

[Anonymous No.16173346]

>>16173304
It's almost like some people have pre-existing conditions that make them particularly vulnerable to Covid, so they take any and all preventive measures to the point of excessive. You were probably one of those "It's just a flu." people.

[Anonymous No.16173350]

>>16172232
Because in real life when it comes to banks, it's more
>wow a lot of your cousins are dying recently, shame if it were to hit closer to home

[Anonymous No.16173353]

>>16173345
Anything to derail the thread, anon. Anything.

[Anonymous No.16173365]

DOWN WITH THE OLD UP WITH THE NEW
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