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Will m&d overtake GR as Pynchon’s magnus opus in the future?

>> No.16144005

>>16143994
Probably not, the cultural significance of GR is too great, it changed the lit world.

>> No.16144011

>>16143994
how would anyone here know? everyone's lying about having read pynchon

>> No.16144017

>>16144005
>it changed the lit world
How?

>> No.16144031

>>16144005
I hate to break it to you, but outside of *some* American colleges and this weird little site, no one gives a shit about anything Pynchon wrote.

>> No.16144039
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>>16144017
It just changed it. The world.

>> No.16144040

>>16144017
I would agree with that anon even though I think m&d is better.GR is one of the first examples ppl give of postmodern literature.plus it is known for being very difficult which ensures its place in literary discussion as it will always be analyzed

>> No.16144051

>>16144040
Tcol49 is unironically more popular and the first and most predictable example of a postmodern text.

>> No.16144056

>>16144039
could you expand upon this?

>> No.16144077

>>16144017
It was a rather influential novel for those to come.
>>16144031
Ok
>>16144040
M&D is better.

>> No.16144088

>>16144077
>rather influential novel for those to come
Ok but you just restated what you said before. How was it influential?
>>16144040
Yeah ok but how did it influence anything? Do you have any examples?

>> No.16144095

>>16144005
>it changed the lit world
It absolutely didn't. The only thing it did was influence a bunch of american midwits like DFW.

>> No.16144106

>>16144011
P Y N C H E D

>> No.16144179

>>16144088
Go on Wikipedia and look up its cultural influence.

>> No.16144271

>>16144088
Do you not read? His sort of disconnected hallucinatory narrations/prose time lapses that transitions between scenes while adding context has been used and reworked by countless since, DFW, DeLillo (supposedly heavily, have yet to read him), Powers, T.C. Boyle, all I can think of at this hour. Beyond that there are allusions to GR all over lit to come. It even goes into genre lit and had a huge influence on cyberpunk and SF in general. Someone else will have to help fill in, been up drinking all night.

There is a nice little allusion to GR in 2666, I think in part 3, anyone know it? It is driving me nuts trying to remember it. I will be amazed if someone pulls this out of their ass.

>> No.16144331

>>16144056
>VisiblyAnnoyed.jpg
IT JUST DID

>> No.16144349

>>16144088
Its the origin of the cyberpunk genre.

>> No.16144363

That cover looks like it‘s about some genderqueers rambling about their pronouns, son & xon.

>> No.16144377

>>16144271
>dfw
>delillo
>powers
>boyle
great so he influenced the biggest hacks in recent memory?

>> No.16144388

>>16144377
What makes delillo a hack?i bet you haven’t read any of the authors you listed

>> No.16144401

>>16143994
In the eyes of critics? Who knows. But it's the better work.

>> No.16144619

>>16143994
When did he dieded ?

>> No.16144768

>>16144401
I also think once the reader adjusts to its archaic style, m&d is Pynchon’s most straightforward work and a good entry point for him.m&d also maintains the paranoid feel that his works are known for, while being sentimental and optimistic.

>> No.16145783

>>16143994
Yeah, it's the most kino novel ever.

>> No.16146738

no, never, fuck off, Gravity's Rainbow is the local star of which all following fiction orbits . . . or gravitates

>> No.16146752

>>16144377
cool retard

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>>16144056
No.