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I am in the middle of Revolt Against the Modern World and I’m finding that I really like Evola’s thought and especially the analysis of history that he undertakes in the second half.

In his analysis of civilizations, he makes a distinction between “solar” and “virile” civilizations and “earthly” and “lunar “ civilizations. The solar societies are those that focus on overcoming, on heroism, are represented by the Apollo archetype, etc... The earthly civilizations are based on gynaeocratic ruling classes, looseness of sexual morals, emphasis on cooperation, and a spiritual conception of returning to the earth. I’ve heard them elsewhere described as societies of the mother.

Are there other authors who bring up this distinction or who discuss societies with this framework, spiritually and metaphysically instead of just purely politically? I think a lot of the footnotes in Evola’s book are from authors who aren’t translated into English. Preferably authors who aren’t overly misogynistic, though I think this subject matter probably attracts a certain type, so I’ll read them even if they are.

>> No.16132633
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>>16132622
Wiccan Hyperfecundists of rural Pennsylvania

>> No.16133043

>>16132633
It is interesting that Wicca could be the Pelagsian, telluric form of paganism. They are truly gross people.

>> No.16133049

>>16132622
>kill their children
It does not! Stop putting seeds in there when they’re not wanted. THAT will end abortion.

Everything else is “based” as you say.

>> No.16133137

>>16132622
>destroy capitalism
Lolno feminists aid the most rampant hypercapitalism in the history of the world.

>> No.16133156

>>16133137
Pat Robertson isn’t too sharp. He was obviously mixing up liberal feminism with actual socialist feminism.
Don’t make the same mistake, anon.

>>16132622
I prefer Nietzsche’s take. The Apollonian isn’t all that heroic, it’s just domineering and rules based.
Unnatural tendencies from the broken chromosome class

>> No.16133179

>>16133156
>I prefer Nietzsche’s take.
>the broken chromosome class
Holy kek, you are irredeemably retarded

>> No.16133184

This is like astrology for men

>> No.16133274

>>16133184
No that’s political compass tests

No one has any recommendations for historical analyses like this?

>> No.16133277
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>>16133179
Evola would see the Dionysian as feminine and earthly, would he not?
What *are* you having trouble with?

>> No.16133278

>>16133156
>He was obviously mixing up liberal feminism with actual socialist feminism.
Two heads of the same beast.

>> No.16133285

>>16133278
I see you and Pat are cut from the same dishrag

>> No.16133300

>>16133277
Not him but yes Evola did consider Dionysian rituals as telluric. He mentioned Rome banned the Bacchanalia as they maintained their virile solar society

That said the “broken chromosome class” bait ruins anything intelligent you’re saying.

>> No.16133301

>>16133285
No, just someone willing to recognize that what's bad about two separate but related groups of people are the things they share.

>> No.16133333

>>16132622
>bro can you help me out is this an aerostratian civilization or a poseidonic one? Does it have earth energy or sun energy?
Evola is tumblr witch shit for autistic LARPers

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>>16132622
Gilded Gash Thirty Three is one of Baltimore's "underground" bigamist clubs who perform, register and celebrate extra-legal matrimonies. Thirds in throuples, Dominants to donkeys, inclusion of all elements loved and lovable are hurried discretely inside whichever adjoining hotel rooms we've reserved for our officious filth.

>> No.16133392

>>16133390
no one cares

>> No.16133421

>>16133300
>telluric
Reminds me of computronium
>Rome banned the Bacchanalia as they maintained their virile solar society
Notice how the US banning alcohol had a reverse effect. Rome was just prudish and didn’t foster the arts as much as empire building
>bait
That what males literally are though.

>>16133301
No. Churchly based or monarchist based, lumping them in as the same “coin” marks you as cut from the same rag

>> No.16133450

>>16133421
Shut up faggot

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>>16132622
the toughest parts of any matriarchy remains who among the leading women will empty the tampon spittoons when no slaves are present?

>> No.16133464

>>16133333
Nice digits, but if you're too retarded to understand basic metaphysical concepts please leave this thread.

>> No.16133521

>>16133156
>socialist feminism
Yeah you're dumb, nobody is a "socialist feminist", most people identifying as such will cheer for global corporate hegemony to shit on whites and/or males. Your shit is fake.

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>>16133521
> nobody is a "socialist feminist"
I am
>dumb
You are

>> No.16133590

>>16132622
>pic
I'm fine with those last 3. There are no real lesbians, anyway.

>> No.16134872

>>16133156
>liberal feminism with actual socialist feminism
What is the difference?
Genuinly asking.

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>>16132622
>no one's cited the interracial breeding grounds

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>>16133464
>gets told by pointing out that the writer is mentally retarded freak
>"y-you need to leave this thread if you have nothing constructive to say..."
Evola radicalized pseudo-conservative garbage for mouth-breathers who want to feel special and rebel against society and its development with preferences towards imaginary romanticized past.

>>16134872
Those two are still gross reductions of what they imply and kinda vague american buzzword bullshit. My take:
liberal = liberation of women, more focus upturning society, but could also mean liberal in the free markets kinda sense
socialist = equality for women, same benefits and same working rights/possibilities as men.
Take your pick.

>> No.16134941

I think you need to make a distinction between a sort of objective examination on reality and describing a system that requires a counterpart to how you want society to be.

That is to say, you want society to be VIRILE and TRAD and MANLY and SOLAR, so you need a STERILE and MODERNIST and FEMININE and LUNAR society to counter it. But just because that system requires an opposite to exist doesn't actually mean it exists. As far as I'm aware there are no such societies, even "Old Europe" ala Marija Giambutas (I probably fucked that, I don't speak depression) was stratified, hierarchical, violent, etc.

The only actual "matriarchy" that I can think of are the Mosuo, and they're special.

>> No.16135044

>>16132622
Why are kids still wasting their time with retarded frameworks like this Evola shit, didn't this type of cringe "ethno-metphysics" die in the 19th century? It always goes something like this:
"Oh you see, these are the Oonga Boonga people, they are different from the Chunga Wunga people because they have bigger souls (magic spirits in them), while the Oonga Bunga have weakened souls from Pussy Darkness."

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>>16135044
Reality too hard. Magical stories easier to digest.

I recommend OP reading Robert Greene's stuff. His thing is to look a bit past the illusions of modern conviction towards morality and liberalism. He's a bit of a pseud, but not an esoteric retard who pretends that humanity divides vaguely into objective and universal good and evil.

>> No.16135293

>>16133562
What are the essetial socialist feminist texts?

>> No.16135304

>>16133049
My oats must be sown otherwise they will die.

>> No.16135312

>>16133390
Jesus Christ do you have a life? A job? You are shitposting in every single thread on this board.

>> No.16135450

>>16135304
Sow ur oats in my boipucci pwease UwU