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Anonymous Fri Aug 14 20:42:59 2020 No.16131837 [Reply] [Original]

Rank them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 20:43:45 2020 No.16131846 >>16131837 Brothers Karamazov > Crime and Punishment > Demons > The Idiot

Homer Fri Aug 14 20:47:50 2020 No.16131876
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>>16131837
Bro are you a fucking idiot? Why are you wasting your time reading these fiction books when an AI GPT-3 is looking to be able to write and create infinite amounts of stories by itself and without the need of a human? Pick up a real and usefum book like SuperIntelligence by Nick Bostrom before you mias out the real AI revolution. It's not a threat; it's counselling.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 20:53:08 2020 No.16131910 >>16131837 you forgot the "/Shelf Thread/", retard

>>	l'chaim Fri Aug 14 21:08:20 2020 No.16132015 >>16131837 Are the Wordsworth Editions some good quality translations?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 21:19:56 2020 No.16132100 >>16131837 by thiccness

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 21:25:57 2020 No.16132151 >>16132015 check the translator's name and research him you dumb cunt

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 21:29:49 2020 No.16132187 File: 87 KB, 1024x683, F4219375-2834-4977-9141-DE1332922946.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >paperback

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 21:31:20 2020 No.16132194 >>16132015 It’s Garnett. The only public domain translation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 21:32:16 2020 No.16132202 >>16131837 Move Idiot to the bottom and put Notes on the top and you're good

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 22:03:08 2020 No.16132448 >>16132187 nice toy gaytard

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 22:14:28 2020 No.16132519 File: 610 KB, 1536x2048, 63BBEFDB-9197-4F7A-9C92-73B655D85E46.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16132448 Not a toy. Quit projecting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 22:22:43 2020 No.16132576 Crime and Punishment >TBK = Demons >>>>>>>> The Idiot

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 22:22:47 2020 No.16132577 >>16132519 ah so you have killed people with it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 22:27:39 2020 No.16132618 >>16132577 Of course not, I just like to take photos of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 22:29:11 2020 No.16132630 >>16132618 so then it is a toy

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 22:41:53 2020 No.16132719 >>16131837 Women's Suprematicm > Late Stage Kasmir Malevich > Juvenaila > Early Suprematicm > Late Suprematicm. Oh you meant Dosto. C&P > *. I mean he works a fucking Deus Ex in and it reads credible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 22:41:54 2020 No.16132720 >>16131846 >>16132576 Is The Idiot really that bad?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 23:09:22 2020 No.16132918 >>16131837 they are already ranked from best to worst in that picture

Anonymous Fri Aug 14 23:13:05 2020 No.16132935

>>16132720
It would probably be better on a 2nd reading but yeah it takes FOREVER to get going even for a Dosto book and when it does its still pretty meh. Might have liked it better if I hadn't read C&P directly b4 it which is enthralling from cover to cover.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 23:23:03 2020 No.16132987 >>16132935 There really is no reason for it to be a 600+ page book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 23:28:15 2020 No.16133022 >>16132720 it's not bad, but it's the worst Dosto I've read.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 23:32:49 2020 No.16133048 >>16132987 Serialisation. Look it up. Novel used to come out in newspapers weekly. So like Jap shit in boy jump and crap they endlessly spin it out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 01:13:02 2020 No.16133573 >>16132720 I just finished The Idiot and I really liked it. If it's a bad Dosto novel then I'm fucking amped to read his other works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 01:18:57 2020 No.16133602 >>16131837 >Haven't read it > Haven't read it > Haven't read it > Haven't read it

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 01:19:29 2020 No.16133609 Brothers Karamazov>Demons>Crime and Punishment>The Idiot

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 02:09:05 2020 No.16133761 File: 128 KB, 1440x1643, 1590784486846.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Devils / Demons more essential than the Idiot? I've read C&P and BK, and I think i'm gonna try to find a non p&v translation of Devils next.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 02:39:38 2020 No.16133860 >>16132630 congratulations on your slight recovery from blunt trauma and severe brain damage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 04:06:38 2020 No.16134182 >>16131876 What would reading about it change? If it's inevitable (which I believe too) then what does reading about it change. Also longer than 5 years more like 20,

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 08:28:24 2020 No.16135063 Brothers K: 10/10 Crime and Punishment: 9.5/10 Demons: 9/10 Idiot: 7/10

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 08:54:08 2020 No.16135185 >>16132187 I wonder what kind of mental illness this is

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 08:54:46 2020 No.16135187 >>16131837 You know he wrote more books than those four you know

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 10:47:41 2020 No.16135840 >>16131837 Did you break into my room?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 10:50:03 2020 No.16135851 >>16133761 thats just too much ass for me

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 10:51:10 2020 No.16135857 Crime and Punishment > Demons > The Idiot > TBK Demons would be first if the first half wasn't boring

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 10:52:10 2020 No.16135862 >>16132187 >dostofag is a big fuckin dweeb well color me surprised

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 10:52:57 2020 No.16135867 >>16132720 No, it's my favorite novel of his.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 10:55:24 2020 No.16135873 >>16132720 It’s a good book but the other three are incredible reads, and I put Crime and Punishment first because I think anyone who reads it will enjoy it, which makes it his greatest work

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 10:59:01 2020 No.16135892 >>16135187 Such as?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 14:45:22 2020 No.16137341 >>16135851 t, Seamus O'Neill

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 14:49:16 2020 No.16137369 >>16135873 I read the first like 150 pages and got a bit impatient for him to do much of anything. Might be due to me being a zoomer though, so I will keep reading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 15:24:11 2020 No.16137597 >>16137369 I encourage you to keep reading anon. Crime and Punishment is what got me back into reading after Nearly a decade of not reading a book

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 15:27:10 2020 No.16137622 >>16137597 Unironically this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 15:57:56 2020 No.16137823 >>16135892 the village of stepanchikovo

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 16:02:24 2020 No.16137855 >>16135892 Notes from Underground The Double The Eternal Husband

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 16:05:41 2020 No.16137877 >>16131837 is there a proper order to read them?

Anonymous Sat Aug 15 16:06:06 2020 No.16137880

>>16137823
>Summoned to the country estate of his wealthy uncle Colonel Yegor Rostanev, the young student Sergey Aleksandrovich finds himself thrown into a startling bedlam. For as he soon sees, his meek and kind-hearted uncle is wholly dominated by a pretentious and despotic pseudo-intellectual named Opiskin, a charlatan who has ingratiated himself with Yegor’s mother and now holds the entire household under his thumb. Watching the absurd theatrics of this domestic tyrant over forty-eight explosive hours, Sergey grows increasingly furious - until at last, he feels compelled to act. A compelling comic exploration of petty tyranny, The Village of Stepanchikovo reveals a delight in life’s wild absurdities that rivals even Gogol’s. It also offers a fascinating insight into the genesis of the characters and situations of many of Dostoyevsky’s great later novels, including The Idiot, Devils and The Brothers Karamazov.
This sounds brilliant. Why have I never heard of it before?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 16:07:29 2020 No.16137894 >>16132519 funny that from ancient greece to the present day, brass is the aesthetic of war

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 16:08:47 2020 No.16137909 >>16137877 Nope, but I would recommend starting with either Notes from Underground or Crime and Punishment. Those are his easiest to get into and will be a good test to see whether or not you like his style.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 16:09:31 2020 No.16137914 >>16131846 This ranking is correct.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 16:10:20 2020 No.16137921 >>16131837 That art is atrocious. Stop buying shit from postmodernist jews.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 16:17:10 2020 No.16137968 i will not denounce.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 17:53:03 2020 No.16138753 >>16132187 >OMFG GUNS!!! FUCKIN' BADASS!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 18:17:22 2020 No.16138925 File: 110 KB, 849x565, Americhad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16138753 Yes.

Anonymous Sat Aug 15 18:23:41 2020 No.16138961

>>16133761
>Is Devils / Demons
There is absolutely no point read this book if u an american, because all the archetypes of the characters in this work are deeply russian. And even if a foreigner is well acquainted with the history and context of what is happening, he will still not be able to fully understand and feel this book. For example, the chapter "Of Ours" is written subtly, in Gogol style. But this subtlety, this purely Russian flair, will be caught only by a Russian person.
Because, for my opinion, for americans the best choice is "Notes from undergroud" and "Idiot".

Anonymous Sat Aug 15 18:34:26 2020 No.16139038

>>16137909
>Notes from Underground
First part of these book can to scare away the reader, because these part containts more strange, semi-philosofical, semi-publicistic writing style. Therefore, if you want to read this book, you better start with the second part of the book. Although this is not the main problem - main problem it's obscure stream of consciousness, in a bad sense of this word constuction.
For my opinion, better to start read "greatest five books" Dostoevsky's with Crime and Punishment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 18:57:14 2020 No.16139211 >>16139038 this is not a well constructed english language post

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 18:59:56 2020 No.16139228 >>16139211 My english is not very good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 19:01:04 2020 No.16139234 >>16139228 evidently

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 19:01:16 2020 No.16139237 >>16138961 The themes of Demons are universal and are widely relevant today.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 19:10:54 2020 No.16139306 >>16139237 Do you know, that Karmazinov is a prototype of Turgenev?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 19:14:37 2020 No.16139327 >>16139306 I do now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 20:29:02 2020 No.16139867 Is there really zero reason in reading Demons if I'm a Burger?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 20:30:35 2020 No.16139873 >>16139867 Read Fathers and Sons first

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 20:45:41 2020 No.16139967 >>16139873 Is Demons a satirical take on Fathers and Sons?

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