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>Find out author was a fascist/racist/reactionary >Put their book on my cart
Anyone else?

>> No.16131595
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16131595

Any fascist/racist/reactionary authors that can write good fantasy?

>> No.16131603

>>16131595
Tolkien

>> No.16131856

>>16131595
Hitler

>> No.16131872

>>16131595
C.S. Lewis

>> No.16131879

>>16131582
This is my life

>>16131595
DH Lawrence

>> No.16131882

>>16131879
Sad

>> No.16131891

>>16131882
If you're sad you should buy more fascist/racist/reactionary books

>> No.16131895

>>16131603
Tolkien wasn't fascist/racist. It's a myth perpetuated by brainless "journalists."

>> No.16131901

>>16131891
You're sad for clinging to muh fascist lit

>> No.16131903

>>16131895
He was reactionary

>> No.16131905

>>16131901
Why

>> No.16131908

>>16131903
Not really

>> No.16131916
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>Start noticing im more racist than before
>i should read some books to surpress my racism and hatred for other cultures
>read books
>i hate other cultures and im even more racist then before, but now i have even better reason for it
anyone else?

>> No.16131921

>>16131905
Weak men cling to identity politics. You're no better than Marxists

>> No.16131928

>>16131916
Pol

>> No.16131932

>>16131928
never went there, my racism originally stems from going to public schools.

>> No.16131953

>>16131921
Weak men think they're above identity politics but are actually worse than marxists. At least marxists have convictions, albeit lousy ones.

>> No.16131954

>>16131932
So you were heavily bullied like everyone else who's a fascfag?

>> No.16131964

>>16131954
No, he just has eyes and can recognize patterns probably.

>> No.16131968

>>16131953
Sounds like a coping mechanism for faggots. Which it is. Whatever helps you sleep, little man

>> No.16131969

>>16131953
>define weak
>define men

There. I won the argument by default

>> No.16131973

>>16131954
No, annoyed to death by somalians smoking weed and playing monkeymusic in school hours. Im not very authoritarian either, you are just obsessed with le «pol» boogeyman.

>> No.16131974

>>16131921
how are fascism or marxism identity politics? you could make a case for nazism but the aforementioned only focus on "identity" of a nation and class, which are arguably too broad to be identity politics

>> No.16131983

>>16131964
Recognizing patterns is how I reached the conclusion that fascists were (or are) beaten up in school. If you haven't dropped out, it would be obvious to you, too.

>> No.16131993

>>16131968
I can smell the projection from here anon, why are you so insecure?

>>16131969
>you
>me
the end.

>> No.16131999

>>16131969
Weak is being either mentally or physically deficient. Being a man means that you aren't a woman - you possess masculine qualities. Sorry you are dumber than I thought

>> No.16132009

>>16131983
You're pretty shit at reaching conclusions then

>> No.16132012

>>16131974
Ask anyone who makes either a core part of their identity

>>16131973
>getting filtered bo Somalis
Yeah you're weak
>>16131993
How am I projecting? I'm not attached to some retarded ideology like some midwit

>> No.16132013

>>16131983
the fact that you think racism is exclusive to facism suggests you arent that good at it

>> No.16132018

>>16131903
Reactionary against industrialization not really in the typical sense of wanting a monarch who will expel all Jews

>> No.16132019

>>16132009
>no u
Not really, woman

>> No.16132020

I would like an anti right wing person who hates women because he's redpilled about how they're responsible for the oppression structure

>> No.16132021

>>16132012
If your best argument against racism is «filtered» then its no wonder you try to censor people so hard.

>> No.16132024

>>16132013
I never conflated the two. The fact that you thought I implied it means you are grasping at straws. Try again

>> No.16132035

>>16132021
Hey man, I'm not the one who can't stand up against a bunch of monkeys. Sorry you are weak mentally and physically

>> No.16132037

>>16132024
no, il continue hating islam in the comfort of my chair while you waste your time trying to own racists on the internet.

>> No.16132041

>>16132012
well then literally political affiliation is "identity politics", you fucking retard. you're literally just tossing buzzwords out like darts on a dartboard

>> No.16132045

>>16132035
I just dislike people who act like monkeys. It has nothing to do with weakness or strength, just standards of behaviour.

>> No.16132050

>>16132019
That's pretty sexist of you

>>16132012
Because you're projecting your own insecurities onto others. Are you retarded as well?

>> No.16132064

>>16132037
>>16132041
Bluepilled
>>16132050
Not really.

>> No.16132065

>>16132020
>not realzing that one of the best fascist sympathizing authors of the 20th century was a gay Jewish woman.

>> No.16132071

>>16132035
That's you projecting again. Nobody said they couldn't, if no monkeys were around we wouldn't need to.

>> No.16132072

>>16132064
bait

>> No.16132074

>>16132045
Bluepilled

>> No.16132079

>>16132064
>no u
Not really, woman

>> No.16132081

>>16132072
Woman

>> No.16132086

>>16132079
T. Tranny

>> No.16132087

>>16132086
>no u
Not really, tranny

>> No.16132094

shut the fuck up you're derailing the thread

>> No.16132098

>>16132087
Impressive. Tell your Somali bf you totally owned a 4chan user

>> No.16132107

>>16132094
No not the bait thread

>> No.16132112

>>16132098
>no u
Not really, Somali

(ps he said he's very proud of me)

>> No.16132155

>>16132112
Sad

>> No.16132171

>>16132155
If you're sad you should buy more fascist/racist/reactionary books

>> No.16132234

>>16132171
It'll make me sadder, but which ones

>> No.16132251

>>16132234
Mein Kampf

>> No.16132271

>>16132251
Read it

>> No.16132289

>>16131582
retard

>> No.16132303

>>16132271
Then you can't be sad.

>> No.16132323

>>16132303
>Mien Kempf is a self help book now
He's a German, actual Nazi Peterson now?

>> No.16132358

>>16132323
no Peterson is a Canadian, fake nazi Hitler

>> No.16132557

>>16131582
And what is your favorite book? What would you recommend? except mk

>> No.16132861

>>16131595
E. R. Eddison

>> No.16133445

Bump

>> No.16133468

>>16131595
Lewis Carroll

>> No.16133489

>>16132557
Nice try faggot, I'm not letting you google the book to find other retards scathing reviews and pretend its your own opinion. Off with you now.

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>>16131953
>people I dont like that don't play in my big boy sandbox are weak
Great point

>> No.16133518

>>16132107
>bait thread
OP here
lol what a giant pussy, I was just making this as a joke thread because another anon made a thread stating the the opposite (take out a book for being fascist/etc.)
anyway why does this thread even have replies anyway?

>> No.16133561

>>16133518
My pussy is giant for u

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>>16131582
What? No! Absolutely not. Why would you ask me that!?

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>>16131895
>Fantasy world inhabited by multiple races who wage eternal war on one another
>Hatred spanning eons
>not racist

>> No.16134189

>>16131582
Basically used to do this

Then realized most of them suck compared to the a-political writers

>> No.16134204

>>16131595
Would Lovecraft count as horror fantasy?

>> No.16134622

>>16134176
Where to start with Strauss?

>> No.16134639

>>16134622
I've only read the two in pic, but 'Persecution and... ' is probably a good bet. I found it fairly heavy going tbph.

>> No.16134640

>>16134176
where did you get that spengler?

>> No.16134646

>>16134204
I guess, but he's not good though.

>> No.16134647

>>16134640
https://www.bookdepository.com/Decline-West-Oswald-Spengler/9781400097005
The pic on book depository makes it look like a hardcover, it's not.

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>>16131582
>>16131595
>t.

>> No.16134655

>>16134647
Thank you, I guess an abridged will seve it's purpose, since I was seeing volume 1 go for like £30 in some places

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>>16131954
How does getting bullied discredit fascism? If anything it justifies fascism as a social defense.

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>>16134655
Life is pain.

>> No.16134672

>>16131908
>>16132018
Tolkien was a classic reactionary

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>>>16131582 (OP)
>>>16131595
>>t.

>> No.16134735

>>16131595
>Any fascist/racist/reactionary authors that can write good
Based let me recommend you so-
>fantasy
Cringe man-child, kys or stay in /sffg/

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holy fuck why did this thread get so many replies

>> No.16134819

>>16131908
>>16132018
He was a quintessential Tory reactionary, especially when it came to religion.

>> No.16134843

>>16131595
all of them write fantasies.

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>>>16131595
>all of them write fantasies.

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Any fascist/racist/reactionary authors that can write good?

>> No.16134920

>>16131595
Eliot Wilder

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>>16134188
>>16131903
cope

>> No.16134997

>>16134951
>leftoids have racial politics on their minds 24/7
go figure, tranny

>> No.16135000

>>16134867
Céline, nothing can compete

>> No.16135001

>>16134849
He's right though

>> No.16135010

>>16134951
Seethe and dilate

>> No.16135014

>>16131582
I had no interest in Thomas Carlyle but then I saw that his Wikipedia article had a section titled "Antisemitism".

Needless to say, I now own all of his works.

>> No.16135053

>>16135014
Holy based...

>> No.16135069

>>16131582
>>16131595
>>16131879
>>16131916
>>16134176
post jawline

>> No.16135074

>>16135069
Lead by example

>> No.16135099

>>16134997
You can't be a reactionary unless you are a racist though.

>> No.16135230

>>16134951
>all good peoples are white
>all bad peoples are middle eastern or African
What did Tolkien mean by this?

>> No.16135240

>>16135099
You would argue that the Vendée were racists?
The House of Bourbon, the Carlists?
People only become racist when they are exposed to the other races.

>> No.16136362

>>16131903
But he was an antifascist, too

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>>16134188
>doesn't realize that the human race is unified
Dimwit

>> No.16136445

>>16135230
>all bad people are middle eastern or african
Who are you talking about?

>> No.16136482

Any very well written right wing non-fiction books originally written in English?

>> No.16136483

>>16135230
It's an accurate representation of the world

>> No.16136491

>>16131582
Yep.

>> No.16136499

>>16131895
If tolkien wasn't racist how come niggers were elves once?

>> No.16136507

>>16134176

>reading (((kissinger)))

anon...

>> No.16136533

>>16136499
The origins of orcs is unclear to this day. Secondly, they're not humans. Thirdly, in a letter to his son (you can find it in the wiki page dedicated to his stance on race) he says that, by analogy, at best we can say that orcs are on all side, since they would be a part of every single human being.

>> No.16136549

>>16133501
I'd fuck her with my great point

>> No.16136715

>>16136445
Well the main villains of the trilogy are corrupted men and elves, bar the grand evil behind it.
While the good is described as light the evil is described as dark.
The men who oppose Rohan, Gondor, the Freemen etc. (who are all Anglo-Saxons, Byzantines, Germanics etc.) are the Haradrim (Arabs) and Easterlings (Turks).
The elves are those of European mythology, white skinned, fair hair, etc.
The Orcs are the inverse.

It's not hard to see.

>> No.16136870

>>16136715
The Haradrim and the Easterlings aren't evil, they've just been subjugated by Sauron. There is no inherent flaw in their racial constitution. In fact saying so would condemn all the "white" ethnicities too, since they had been subjugated in the same manner in the past. Furthermore, at no point they're desribed as being part of a different race. They're as human as the citizens of Gondor (and this can be argued by referring to the Silmarillon's cosmogony: all humans are borne out of the same ontological, divine principle - and the elves are borne from another principle, and the orcs from another too).
Also your taxonomy doesn't account for the difference between elves and Middle Eartherns. Are they both white? Then why are they two different races? What difference are they analogous for?
Lastly, the reference to the light-darkness dyad is far older than the modern racial white-black dyad. It is more likely that it was an inheritance from Christian and pagan imagery, rather than a reference to racial taxonomy.

>> No.16137181

>>16131595
Lovecraft

>> No.16137885

>>16131916
Based. Reddlit seeting

>> No.16138026

>>16132012
> say you don't like the smell of shit
> "lol, filtered, real men love the smell of a fresh log"
Fag.

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>>16138026
> say you don't like the smell of shit
> "lol, filtered, real men love the smell of a fresh log"
based and brownpilled

>> No.16138060

I am gay and tall

>> No.16138233

>>16131916
yeah pretty much. No wonder leftist want to censor people so hard, because in reality we arent equal.

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>>16135069

>> No.16138347

>>16136507
>muh joo
"American Foreign Policy" was publishjed in 1968 and is an excellent historical document for examining the concerns of the Foreign Policy Elite at that time.

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real chad shit