/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16125309]

What books capture the feeling of old Europe? Lord of the Rings does that, but I wonder if there are other books with a similar melancholic beauty feel to them.

[Anonymous No.16125326]

Thread theme:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pcAZ-AO3Fz4

[Anonymous No.16125364]

>>16125309
It infuriates me to see the people of Europe squander their continent and history. I studied your continent and its peoples, from the Minoans to today. It is a special place, due to climate, geography, luck and the people that have lived there for millennia.

What happened to you guys? Why have most of you turned against yourselves, and why do you march so proudly towards self-destruction? Is it guilt over colonization? If so, let it go-- any other race would have done the same.

I don't know. I have a lot of love for Europe. It would be a shame if the European cultures were to disappear-- no, worse, if they were to erase themselves-- in the name of liberalism and other such values. Please, stand up for yourselves. Whoever controls Europe controls the world. Don't hand over your homelands so easily. Your continent will play a climatic role in the human story before it's all said and done.

[Anonymous No.16125384]

>>16125364
Pretty sure it was immigration

[Anonymous No.16125386]

>>16125384
birth rate too low

[Anonymous No.16125390]

Name Of The Rose

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16125393]

>>16125309
>melancholic
You mean bucolic?
William Morris, Walter Pater

[Anonymous No.16125407]

>>16125386
yes, we must grow infinitely forever

[Anonymous No.16125448]

>>16125364
don't you have a statue to worship

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16125453]

I read a quote from some Roman traveler somewhere. He said that they traveled from one end of europe to the other and never saw direct sunlight for all the giant trees thick canopy.
It may have been a bit of an exaggeration, but probably not by much. Wish I could remember what the name of the guy was

Białowieża Forest, Poland.

[Anonymous No.16125481]

>>16125448
kys spiritual semite

[Anonymous No.16125484]

The Corner that Held Them

[Anonymous No.16125490]

>>16125309
>Lord of the Rings does that

[Anonymous No.16125492]

>>16125481

[Anonymous No.16125496]

>>16125492
>>16125448
Don't you have an Imaginary God who does not exist in this World but it totatly does in another to worship?

[Anonymous No.16125503]

>>16125364
They all tied themselves to the Euro and austerity ideology. Plus the cash cow of imperialism and military might isn't under their control anymore

[Anonymous No.16125524]

>>Lord of the Rings does that

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16125546]

>>16125384
That was pretty. Thank you

[Anonymous No.16125548]

>>16125364
>What happened to you guys?
It's ogre.

[Anonymous No.16125565]

>>16125309
define old Europe

[Anonymous No.16125583]

>>16125565
Yeah, what are we talkin` about here? 1950?

[Anonymous No.16125662]

>>16125393
Please die

[Anonymous No.16125668]

Skyrim

[Anonymous No.16125670]

>>16125393
Shut up

[Anonymous No.16125676]

>medieval Europe was JUST LIKE middle earth!!!! I was born in LE WRONG GENERATION

[Anonymous No.16125694]

>>16125676
Thats what you are saying.

[Anonymous No.16125950]

>>16125309
>the feeling of old Europe
Don Q
Old Europe was not your sentimental wankfantasy, it was shit, disease, starvation, and war, all the time, everywhere.
>squander
Fuck off. We have never had it better. The world is a shitshow of fascists and morons, while we're arguing over who is going to clean our toilets
And there never was a Europe. It was horde after horde of barbarian invasions settling because the land is fertile and the people docile, because Europe is the center of the world

[Anonymous No.16125956]

>>16125950
>it was shit, disease, starvation, and war, all the time, everywhere.
This is even more wrong than the romanticized view.

[Anonymous No.16125959]

>>16125956
Open a history book sometime LARPfag

[Anonymous No.16125961]

>>16125393

[Anonymous No.16125964]

>>16125496
>totatly

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16125984]

>>16125959
History books tend to chronicle the wars, pestilences and famines. There were some good times.
One should not idealize the past so much of course, but like anon above just said, don’t go full reverse either.
The forests were better then!

[Anonymous No.16125990]

>>16125309
Narcissus and Goldmund

[Anonymous No.16126065]

>>16125407
or we could maintain an equilibrium in population rather than grow forever or shrink massively

[Anonymous No.16126076]

>>16125309
I remember this book I had around in my house about bed tales illustrated by Arthur Rackam. I remember it mostly for an adaptation of the tale of king Midas, but I remember it had stories about gnomes and shit. Is that what you mean?

[Anonymous No.16126159]

>>16125390
this, I was so sad when based Umberto passed away desu

[Anonymous No.16126171]

>>16125309
>old Europe
>mistakes Anglo LARPing for anything current on the continent

Tolkein's letters make it clear he was too uncivilized to fathom what a bidet was for and accidentally drank out of one before the Somme battles.

[Anonymous No.16126172]

>>16125309
Gargantua and Pantagruel

[Anonymous No.16126182]

The High History of The Holy Grail.
The Romances of Chretien de Troys.

[Anonymous No.16126191]

>>16125390
Ecco was a modernist and a liberal who's philosophy was antithetical to old Europe.
>>16126172
Rabelais was one of the writers who contributed to the rise of decedant modernity.

[Anonymous No.16126202]

>>16125309
moomin

[Anonymous No.16126206]

>>16125984
Yeah I wish we could go back too before all the tranny's and immigrants fucked Europe up.

[Anonymous No.16126228]

>>16125950

You're a retard mate.

[Anonymous No.16126231]

>>16125364
Europeans are already dead inside, even if they removed every last kebab and poo they’d still be empty husks

[Anonymous No.16126257]

>>16125309
>>16125364
>oh my gosh I love culture and history so much yeah you could say I'm a free thinking individual whom loves history

[Anonymous No.16126261]

>>16126257
Yeah I hate historyfag LARPers too.

[Anonymous No.16126264]

>>16125364
>history
>I studied
>peoples
>Minoans
>self-destruction
>guilt
>colonization
>let it go
>race
>love for Europe
>cultures
>disappear
>erase
>liberalism
>values
>please stand up for yourselves
>controls
>homelands
>human story

[Anonymous No.16126268]

>>16125309
>>16125364
Modernism is a hell of drug.

[Anonymous No.16126271]

>>16126206
Hitler was a tranny immigrant?

[Anonymous No.16126283]

>>16125496
Why are atheist retorts always so bitter and inelegant? Like a child having a fit.

[Anonymous No.16126290]

>>16126283
Because christcucks are mental toddlers. Lmao do you think you deserve a well written response to why your fantasy isn't real? Lmao just lmao

[Anonymous No.16126694]

>>16125309
Read European mythologies.

[Anonymous No.16126705]

>>16125364
This Fucking Shit Again (vol. 325)

[Anonymous No.16126715]

>>16125364
European here. It's over, there are already enough brown non-whites in western europe to destroy the race and phenotype once we inevitably mix. One of the most important cities of my country had 50% of this years newborns be non-white of african or arabocongoid descent. The only salvation would come through mass deportation or genocide, and the probability of it happening is low since the jewish hand will keep us from rising up using law enforcement and brainwash.

Enjoy while it lasts, take whatever you can get, try to save it's knowledge in digital format, grow a decent .png folder from every european art piece before the shitskins burn it and tear it all apart, etc. Move on. Learn from this and warn your people so that they may learn what happens when you allow endless foreigners that hate you to settle on their land.

>t. Stoic Spaniard

[Anonymous No.16126735]

>>16125364
im trying anon. Nobody wants to listen.

[Anonymous No.16126738]

>>16125309
Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott

[Anonymous No.16126752]

>>16125364
You guys did it thanks to WWII. You know who should have won that. Keeping it /lit/ related has anyone bere read "The man in the high castle"?

[Anonymous No.16126789]

>>16126715

[Anonymous No.16126822]

>>16126715
Stoicism is just cuckoldry then. If you were a real man, you'd do something instead of complain and cry.

[Anonymous No.16126854]

>>16126206

Most of the people I know don't want migrants in our country lol. before someone call me racist no I don't hate them. I want my country to stay like it was. We don't need little africa, little turkey and shit like that. So stay in your country please!

[Anonymous No.16126862]

If you want to weep for what Europe once was, Read a Time of Gifts by Patrick Leigh Fermor. So much of the richness of European culture was lost in WW2.
We have no true aristocracy anymore, just petty bourgeoise and financiers.

[Anonymous No.16126874]

>>16126822
>le stoic cuck meme, do i fit in yet réddit?
>just do something!!! xD
This thing is out of my reach and I can't do anything to change it. My people has been brainwashed into becoming extinct as fast as possible.

How would I go about reverting the values and ideas of millions of people that people were brainwashed with as young as the age of 3?
Ideas which their fundamental cognitive orientation is based upon? Do you know how hard or near impossible this is in the field of psychology? Do you know the mental breakdown this would cause on an individual?

Afterwards, how do I go about murdering millions of immigrants, or how would I put them on boats, send them back to their countries, and make them swear to not come back ever again, myself? A single guy?

And if I don't do this all myself, and solve this herculean task with which no individual or collective was faced ever before in the history of mankind, then that means stoicism is cuckoldry and I am a cuck. Not a real man.

Dear 13 year old kid, once you grow up you will realize that real life isn't like your marvel comics, and that a single man cannot drain the entire ocean. And realizing this and accepting it, is stoicism.

[Anonymous No.16126891]

>>16126752
I did, great book

[Anonymous No.16126935]

>>16126874
>tl;dr: just give up, bro
You're such a worthless faggot.

[Anonymous No.16126997]

>>16126874
I hope you find some modicum of what you are looking for brother.

[Anonymous No.16127189]

>>16126935
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE UP, YOU CAN'T BE HAPPY UNTIL YOUR RACIAL GROUP SECURES ITS DOMINANCE FOR THE FUTURE QUICK TO THE FRONT LINES OF THE IDEOLOGICAL WAR
Why not?

[Anonymous No.16127214]

>>16126874
Lol you sound depressed, like most people who call themselves stoics. Take some time off the internet, read Mein Kampf, and soon you'll feel whole again and know how to be a man.

[Anonymous No.16127475]

>>16126935
>>16127214
Do you wanna know why I'm right? Because you haven't provided a solution for anything yet. You just say "DO SOMETHING" like a faggot jew who just critiques everything but offers no solutions.

[Anonymous No.16127509]

Narcissus and Goldmund pcomfy desu

[Anonymous No.16127517]

>>16127475
You're not going to listen anyway because you're depressed. You can't do anything anyway because you're depressed. Fix that first. It's really not hard to think of what to do (the doing will be hard though, won't deny that).

Develop yourself. Set an example. Organise. Spread propaganda. Use the system against itself.
But first, fix your depression, and your stoicism cope isn't going to help.

[Anonymous No.16127602]

>>16125384
(((immigration)))

[Anonymous No.16127616]

>>16127517
>Develop yourself.
Yes, but that won't solve it.
>Set an example.
And end up dead or in jail.
>Organise.
I have no social skills whatsoever and even if I did no one would listen to a "rayyyyycisss"
>Spread propaganda.
Yeah, that works, I'll make the 90000th thread about the jewish question and the demographics problem, then I'll get sent to /pol/ and in /pol/ I'll get niggerdick spammed until the thread is archived.
>Use the system against itself.
My actions make no difference, what is a drop of water compared to an ocean.
>But first, fix your depression
I fixed it once I accepted our inevitable fate.
>your stoicism cope isn't going to help.
Believing you can change the world or some cringe teenager shit helps no one. Stoicism is about accepting reality and not thinking you're some sort of live laugh love superman that can overturn a millennia old conspiracy to assimilate the white race into a brown hybrid.

Coping is needing to think that something will be done about it because thinking that it's inevitable is too scary for the redditor who disregards stoicism.

[Anonymous No.16127648]

>>16127616
>You're not going to listen anyway because you're depressed. You can't do anything anyway because you're depressed. Fix that first.

Your posts reek of depression anon. Stop sulking and act like a man.

[Anonymous No.16127658]

>>16125309
The World of Yesterday
The Man Without Qualities
Haven't gotten a chance to read them yet, but I've heard very good things.

[Anonymous No.16127663]

>>16125364
Prosperity was the death of our people

[Anonymous No.16127711]

Can somebody please give me a clear explanation of what constitutes white vs nonwhite?
It's been brought up in this thread but I don't understand exactly how the concept of whiteness applies to Europe

[Anonymous No.16127718]

>>16126065
or we could shrink from this unprecedented level of bloat, leaving more wealth per person

[Anonymous No.16127730]

>>16125326
holy fucking shit the comments on that video are some of the cringeworthiest shit I have come across in a long time. I actually feel sad right now. Reading those comments has fucking killed my mood wtf

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16127771]

>>16126206
Europe was made of invasions and migrations.
And you’ve never heard of The Satyricon?

>>16126854
Things change, but this migrant crisis is getting to be pretty forced. They’re trying to break the welfare system
>>16127602
The liberals. Jews and non Jews

>>16127663
Capitalism was

[Anonymous No.16127806]

>>16127718
> I'm willing to have my progeny die if it means a bit more "GDP" for moi
Holy cow, maybe you horrible people deserve to die out.

[Anonymous No.16127831]

>>16127711
If you have embedded memories, dreams, and visions of Hyperborea you are white.
If you don’t you aren’t.

[Anonymous No.16127858]

>>16125384
How do you explain eastern Europe then

[Anonymous No.16127872]

[Anonymous No.16127907]

>>16127831
Based and true

[Anonymous No.16128073]

>>16127616
My friend, you're right, the situation is very very bleak... but not totally hopeless!
Hitler almost changed this course, though he failed.
History is made by the actions of Men who harness public sentiment. It is a FACT that if you could make every single country in Europe to totally cut immigration today all of them would (okay... I'm not sure about Sweden lol), even more if just MEN could vote on it, and MEN MAKE HISTORY.
Don't do anything reckless, just become the best Man you can be for 20-30 years in the future, the shit WILL hit the fan sometime and... we have to be ready for it.
t. Nietzschean White Argentine

[Anonymous No.16128150]

>>16128073
True, the fact that I've become blackpilled doesn't mean I'm not getting ready for what's to come. I own several weapons (no firearms because cuck country though) and I practice with them as a workout. I look forward to death in battle when shit hits the fan. Neighborhoods are becoming more and more favelized. I hope I can save enough money for a proper longsword before it happens. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.16128173]

>>16127806
>I'm willing to import a billion niggers if it means the GDP goes up
This is your position
>Let's just not worry about the GDP going up and let the population settle back down to where it should be
This is mine

[Anonymous No.16128175]

>>16128150
Thanks man. But what about hunting? No podes conseguir armas de fuego asi?

[Anonymous No.16128209]

>>16126874
>all this pseud babble to justify giving up

[Anonymous No.16128243]

>>16128175
Asi puedes tener pero es un calenton de cabeza, tienes que llevarlas a revisar a la guardia civil, nunca puedes tenerlas fuera del armero homologado (que te obligan a comprar, y son caros), y si se diese el caso de que la usas aunque sea en defensa propia o justificado, vas a la carcel. De hecho practicamente no existe la defensa propia, si alguien entra a tu casa a robar o a lo que sea, y le haces algo, le tienes que indemnizar con miles de euros y vas a la carcel, y si resulta que en la pelea lo matas aun sin querer, a la carcel tambien. Te arruinan la vida. Y tambien estas en una lista en la que en cuanto tengas cualquier problema con alguien por ejemplo una pelea aunque sea a puños o una discursion y venga la policia o haya una denuncia, te retiran las armas aunque no tenga nada que ver. Es un infierno burocratico, vale mas la pena tenerla ilegal sin que nadie lo sepa y usarla cuando sea necesario realmente. De hecho es que incluso si te pillan diciendo "negros de mierda" en una red social o parecido, te quitan las armas tambien, te lo quitan hasta por respirar. Y socialmente esta estigmatizado tener armas, como si fueses un psicopata o algo extraño. Asi que de momento entreno con armas de filo y aprendo HEMA.

[Anonymous No.16128282]

>>16128243
Bien, la situación en Argentina es igual (y se que es así en varios países europeos)... Yo en un par de años es probable que me vaya para ahi, ya que mi novia es europea.
Mis antepasados son gallegos, vos de cual región sos? Si no queres responder por el "doxing" lo entiendo igual jaja

[Anonymous No.16128295]

>>16125453
He never came to a fucking lake?

[Anonymous No.16128314]

>>16128282
Valencia

[Anonymous No.16128317]

>>16127730
you sound like a huge faggot. its cool medieval music, either listen to it or don't. no reason to whine like a woman about the youtube comments. who cares?

[Anonymous No.16128337]

>>16128314
Un saludo y que puedas conquistar lo que te propongas!

[Anonymous No.16128359]

>>16128337
Igualmente, larga vida a la raza blanca, nunca derrotada por la espada.

[Anonymous No.16128364]

>>16126715
>Spaniard
>white
yeah i'm thinking cringe

[Anonymous No.16128386]

>>16127730
i scrolled the comments for three pages looking for something cringeworthy, it's just the standard "omg this musician is so amazing i love this shit" that you see on every audio upload, not sure what triggered u to death

[Anonymous No.16128387]

>>16128364
Don't you have a circumcised cock to gobble on?

[Anonymous No.16128394]

>>16127663
Tolerance was the death of Europeans, of the Germanics in particular. Africans and Asians have never been as tolerant as Germanic peoples.

[Anonymous No.16128409]

>>16128387
don't you have some moors to be conquered by?

[Anonymous No.16128433]

>>16128409
t. BBC fetishist

[Anonymous No.16129264]

>>16125384
Immigration is a symptom of the sickness, not the cause.

[Anonymous No.16129947]

The Nibelungenlied is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.16130095]

>>16125309
try out Mary Stewart's "Crystal Caves" series. It's the Arthur stuff through the eyes of Merlin (it's been decades since i read it though, so i don't remember much) but it's all set in old europe

[Anonymous No.16130121]

>>16128394
Remember that time when Germanics had three world empires converge on a Central European power revoking concepts of tolerance in the state of...

[Anonymous No.16130257]

>>16125309
One the marble cliffs

[Anonymous No.16130263]

Song of Roland (english translation, whatever)
Malory's Morte D'Arthur

[Anonymous No.16130267]

>>16129947
& this desu

[Anonymous No.16130370]

>>16125583
Nothing worthwhile occurred in western Europe after the World Wars.

[Anonymous No.16130380]

>>16128433
t. irrelevant shithole dweller

[Anonymous No.16130708]

>>16125364
It's Capitalism you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.16130727]

>>16125453
Truth. The fall was way before the massive immigration waves. Western europa is an industrialized land, with not much true nature left.

[Anonymous No.16130746]

>>16130708
You mean jews and women. Women command the consumer markets more than men. Take away the ability for women to spend money, remove the jews: Bingo. Here's your Europe, on a platter.

[Anonymous No.16130750]

>>16125364
>due to geography and luck
Try again.

[Anonymous No.16130804]

>>16125309
How old? The World of Yesterday by Stefan Zweig gives you a sense of Belle Epoque europe, the height of Viennese intellectualism at the turn of the 20th century.

>>16130370
pic related

[Anonymous No.16131092]

>>16125309
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

[Anonymous No.16131114]

>>16130708
no it isn't

[Anonymous No.16132169]

BUMP
>>16130708
Kys midwit.

[Anonymous No.16132943]

>>16129947
Isn't Wagner one of Tolkien's stated influences

[Anonymous No.16133202]

>>16130708
>>16127771
What if you agree that it is capitalism but see communists as morally indistinguishable from liberals? Can capitalism be defeated by based people like religious zealots, militarists, or Kings?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16133249]

>>16133202
No kings. The others incidentally can be a part of it.

[Anonymous No.16133310]

>>16133249
Okay, what if my side wins? Are you gonna side with the ex-bourgeoisie in overthrowing the based and redpilled rebirth of my ancien regime? Or do you want to join??

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16133355]

>>16133310
The only way we win is by revolution. Another coup is a another loss, and we have no more time. Your “rebirth” will be a stillbirth.
Embrace tradition. Overthrow the power elites and establish a non market economy and direct democracy for your local community.

[Anonymous No.16133428]

>>16133355
>muh revolution
Pretty cringe for someone who's not a 15 year old

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16133451]

>>16133428
This is even more cringe, wastrel

[Anonymous No.16133458]

>>16133355
Believe me, I would love to live in a commune in an enchanted forest like Tom Bombadillo >>16125309. Problem is such an arrangement isn't uhhh...militarily viable in our globalized world full of nations if you're picking up what I'm laying down. That's why people like me think the only way to beat the power elite is by replacing it with a new power elite (this time more based). Unless you have a way to enforce global compliance with commune-ism or Shire-ism in a world that is changed beyond recognition from the material conditions that made those arrangements the norm. Not really being sarcastic here, there could be a way I just don't see it

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16133545]

>>16133458
Replacing it the way they replace themselves has never worked, and will never work. It has to be more substantial.
We have to offer the majority everything, and get them all on the right side. So called rightwingers and leftwinger. The military and the newly poor middle class, with advanced communications We must catch on like wildfire. Your way, Lenin’s way, Kim il Sung’s way, won’t do shit, and the majority of the US won’t lift a fi her for it. (Maybe tankies are suitable for India, I donno, but it wont happen in the US)

And we can’t have old growth forests overnight. Though that is the best way to save the environment, we must plant those seeds before it is too late.

https://www.jamesherod.info/Getting_Free.pdf

[Anonymous No.16133568]

>>16125309
>books with a similar melancholic beauty feel to them.
mating101.com/the-book

[Anonymous No.16133578]

>>16133568
https://mating101.com/21-types-of-women-to-date-marry-or-avoid/

[Anonymous No.16133734]

>>16126231
Sadly this. Especially young people are nothing but mindless drones who bow to the lowest form of American culture and can't think an independent thought if their life depended on it.

[Anonymous No.16134197]

>>16127730
It's hard to see what you're referring to, but if you're talking about the RP stuff it's probably not what it seems. People use this music for playing DnD so what seems to be RP is just people making playful references to the DnD experience.

[Anonymous No.16134200]

>>16133545
well women are the problem and if you're honest you'll admit that, it's the redpill.

[Anonymous No.16134233]

>>16126191
>Rabelais was one of the writers who contributed to the rise of decedant modernity.
How come?

[Anonymous No.16134247]

>>16125364
Fought ourselves to a standstill, then got warsick.

[Anonymous No.16134251]

>>16134200
You been eating blue pills

[Anonymous No.16134341]

>>16127658
Nothing to do with old europe, only the beginnng of degeneracy and industrialization and war. At their point it already all was shit.

[Anonymous No.16134562]

>>16125364
>What happened to you guys? Why have most of you turned against yourselves, and why do you march so proudly towards self-destruction? Is it guilt over colonization? If so, let it go-- any other race would have done the same.
There's too many men, too many people. And not much love to go around.

[Anonymous No.16134603]

>>16125364
It's urbanism, anonymity and atomization turns men into orcs. The pre-enlightenment private man (the greek idiot) epithomized by the hobbits is already a degenerate step in that direction. The interwar mass movements of fascism and communism were attempts to overcome urbanism within the framework of urbanism by rekindling the heroic age through a refoundational myth (palingenesis). But that failed. Fascism got aborted and communism grew sick and died an old man's death.

We're living in the void created by capitalism, which has long since transcended its heroic phase. My personal hope is that climate change will somehow crash globalization and limit to manageable centres.

[Anonymous No.16134718]

>>16132943
The Nibelungenlied wasn't written by Wagner. You're thinking of the Ring-tetralogy, which is an adaptation of the myth, based in part on the Middle-High German epic and primarily on the Icelandic Völsunga Saga

[Anonymous No.16134733]

>>16134200
please shut up about your cringe ass pills and stop blaming half of humanity cause you never got laid

[Anonymous No.16134747]

>>16133355
Revolution isn't ontologically real, Butthead. It'll only ever occur at the behest of Power, in which case it isn't revolution at all.

[Anonymous No.16135104]

>>16126191
>Rabelais was one of the writers who contributed to the rise of decedant modernity.

cite your sources

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>>16125386
didnt bother japan.

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>>16125309
Simplicius Simplicissimus

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>>16134562
Settle down, Phil.

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>>16126862
>Time of Gifts
I came here to post this. It’s not a lament for the Europe that we’ve lost, it’s a celebration that it ever happened. Best book I’ve read in years.

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>>16125386
Because of plastic.

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>>16125364
Germs losing ww2 obviously.

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>>16135289
I'm not even kidding.

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>>16125309
Most great European books of the 19th and early 20th century. I found it in several books that belonged to the realist and romanticist type.
Personal recommendations:
The Leopard
War & Peace, Anna Karenina

>>16130804
>The World of Yesterday by Stefan Zweig
Yes, however the man without qualities wouldn't have what Op is looking for.

>>16133568
Funny article, however it does not feel like old Europe, you burger. What makes your book different from other PUA books in the year 2020?

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Just read anything written before 1500.

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>>16125309
Not much beyond similar hackneyed fantasy. LOTR has this feeling because it already exists on that cusp of obliteration of european locale; I would recommend Mann's The Magic Mountain

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>>16126862
Fuck the aristocracy. They didn’t make Europe any better for sponging off the masses.

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>>16130708
yes? how?

[Anonymous No.16136943]

Sebald's The Emigrants gave me that feel of old Europe knowing it will disappear soon but it's been so long since I've read it.

[Anonymous No.16137358]

I just came back from 2 months of traveling through Europe and I barely saw any immigrant or even dark skin. No joke. On the east part of Europe they are just non existing. I only saw them in France and German city's. Countries like Croatia and Hungary are just so racist that literally no immigrant wants to go there.

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>>16137358
Somewhere in Poland.
After this trip I'm even more hyped about Europe and my roots. it is really not as bad as people imagine it.

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>>16125496
>Imaginary God
>totatly
Cringe

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>>16125364
>It infuriates me to see the people of Europe squander their continent and history.
>What happened to you guys? Why have most of you turned against yourselves, and why do you march so proudly towards self-destruction? Is it guilt over colonization?
What do you mean?

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>>16127771
>they brought in millions of third world Islamists as a capitalist conspiracy against the welfare system

Why are leftoids like this

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>It infuriates me to see the people of Europe squander their continent and history. I studied your continent and its peoples, from the Minoans to today. It is a special place, due to climate, geography, luck and the people that have lived there for millennia.

>What happened to you guys? Why have most of you turned against yourselves, and why do you march so proudly towards self-destruction? Is it guilt over colonization? If so, let it go-- any other race would have done the same.

>I don't know. I have a lot of love for Europe. It would be a shame if the European cultures were to disappear-- no, worse, if they were to erase themselves-- in the name of liberalism and other such values. Please, stand up for yourselves. Whoever controls Europe controls the world. Don't hand over your homelands so easily. Your continent will play a climatic role in the human story before it's all said and done.

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>>16125492
>haha we wrecked europe you mad pagan?
I mean yeah

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>>16130746

>>16131114

>>16132169
Brainlets. The bourgeois are importing migrants for two reasons
1) cheap labor
2) "progressive" appeasement and a common enemy for the working class that isn't the rich

It's all a distraction for them to ascend to global aristocracy.

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>>16137975
People are crazy these days!

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>>16125364
Holy shit please kill yourself

[Anonymous No.16138628]

>>16125364
the larp is... too cringe...

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>>16137975
Let's suppose that we accept your priors about how it's all economics.
What ethnicity are these "bourgeoisie" then midwit?

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>>16133734
Interestingly, I've yet to see evidence that this was not largely the case for all of human history. Only that it is remarkably more visible now. In fact, everything I've encountered seems to esteem the hoi polloi similarly as trend-hopping slaves.

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>>16130746
Capitalism requires cheap labour. Capitalism pushes for liberalism. Without Capitalism there is none of this.

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>>16137628
There’s been many hands involved in doing this, and they all seem to be doing it for the money and power. Follow the money, anon.

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>>16126264
not an argument

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>>16130750
The genetic lottery is a game of luck.
>>16125364

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>>16125959
>wars
Small skirmishes fought mostly by nobles
>pestilence
Now we have insane rates of diabetes and heart disease, obesity etc
>famine
Fair point, but going back to my last point, the malnourishment of modern times is probably as devastating as the undernourishment of the past. I’m a healthy weight myself, but I’m gonna guess that pushing 250 lbs probably sucks as bad as an empty stomach
Obviously I would hate living in the Middle Ages but it would be pretty dope to check it out. Like the idea of bears roaming the English countryside, absolute silence and stargazing in a clear sky at night, wilderness looming in every direction. There’s no denying the period had its charms.

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BUMP

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>>16136464
KYS

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>>16125984
>There were some good times.
Life was nasty, brutish, and short, even at the best of times.
>>16141061
It was not small skirmishes. It was hordes moving back and forth across the land, driven by cropfailure, and starvation. Britain is on the very edge of the map, and their chronicles are nothing but wave after wave of invasion devastation, followed by infighting, religious turmoil, dread, and disease.
If you were lucky enough to live in backwater shitsville, your life was toil and disease

You fucking internetbabies need to grow up with your shit baawaa modern life is rubbish, you are free for the first time in all of human history and all you fucking do is cry a river.
Don't want to be an obese diabetic, get off your fat ass.
Want to pretend to be a girl? For the first time people won't burn you for being a freak.
Want to cry about how bad everything is and pretend to be the last vestige of a lost civilization? LARP on /lit
Fuck off

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>>16134197
which is cringe. i played D&D in my youth and god damn i wish i didn't waste my time being an absolute faggot surrounded by absolute faggots.

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>>16143434
for centuries peasants in medieval England worked way less than we do now and there was very little war, definitely no total war like was seen in the modern period. I am not romanticizing them, these are simply facts.

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>>16143434
>Life was nasty, brutish, and short, even at the best of times.
Hobbes was talking about 'savages' here, not about medieval or modern peasants, under the feudal system and/or monarchy.

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>>16138628
the self hate is... too cringe...

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>>16143467
>>16143519
>le ebin cringe XD
Back to plebbit.

>>16143434
Every problem you stated in Britain was directly caused by the ideology you're selling (Liberalism), and even that's a laughable oversimplification. Go read a book.

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>>16125364
faggot, what you call european history is really just the history of about 4 different families who became so inbred they couldn't breath anymore, the fact that they paid homos to paint them in a way that made them look tough isn't a reason to think they were cool

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>>16143320
Armor licker

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>>16125364
we are victims of our own success I guess. Millions of muzzies moved in because we were so prosperous for hundreds of years and now we are infested. The average euro-cuck is too much of a fag to get them to leave. Europe is fucked.

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>>16137358
>Countries like Croatia and Hungary are just so racist that literally no immigrant wants to go there.
where do I sign up? I live in france and its infested with mudslimes.

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>>16125364
What happened to us was two devastating world wars and then being left to be picked out by USA and USSR.
In fact that's what happened. Half belonged one while the other half belonged to another, both nations with inferior cultures but it's not like we had a choice. The best we could do to still compete with them was forming EU though.
Now we have shitty globalist politicians in charge of the EU, especially Germans who want to do the completely opposite of the Nazis as if they have a guilty consciousness.
Interestingly enough, the nations who still have a sense of pride in their culture tend to be the poorest such as Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece. We don't take kindly to foreigners trying to change our way of life. It's mostly the souless northern Europeans who don't have much of s culture to begin which tend to promote globalism and cultural diversity.

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>>16125364
>my ancestors
good bait mutt

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>>16126715
>European here
>>t. Stoic Spaniard
pick one and one only

[Anonymous No.16144658]

>>16128150
wow... I would like to dress as him but India we cannot find clothing like this

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>>16144658
Anglo prep is cringe. Get some taste and at least LARP as an Italian or a French.

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>>16133451
Too late already, capitalism is a unstoppable machine. We are it's epiphenomena.

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>>16125364
Jesus fucking, sad to see the state of you fucking people. All of you, whether american or european, sit here from you home at your computer, crying over how "fucked" and "doomed" Europe is. What the fuck are you on about? Life in this continent, or anywhere else in the world, has never been as good as it is right now for the modern european middle class. Holy shit, you are all so fucking sheltered. Go outside for a while maybe, and realize what people actually care about, what people do for fun instead of staying home al day larping and dreaming of some "good old days".

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>>16145372
They don't want their countries to turn into Lebanon or Brasil. It's called foresight

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>>16145395
Can you point towards any aspect of European society that is steadily regresing towards that of Lebanon or Brasil? Can you provide academical sources? Or are you scared by the dark-skinned migrants that you have seen on the latest video by your favourite youtube propagandist ?

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>>16145421
I would have thought that was obvious, Lebanon blew up in the 70s because of the decades of Muslim immigration preceding them, notably refugees from Palestine. Brasil represents the demographics that the USA is trending towards. Brasil is actually functional at least, the failure mode of latin american countries is worse.

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>>16125309
you haven't read it, now go back to pol

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>>16125961
that was once a man