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Shakespeare here, AMA

>> No.16119132

>>16119123
Ohh fuuuuq niggah, is it true you actually used to be a hunter? And what do you think you're best play is????

>> No.16119134

>>16119123
Hi. Francis Bacon !

>> No.16119143

>>16119134
lame

>> No.16119154

>>16119123
why are you bald and white?

>> No.16119183

>>16119132
I did a great many odd jobs during (what Wikipedia labels as) my lost years. From a print-makers apprentice to a cleric. My encounter with Sir Thomas Lucy was greatly exaggerated however. After I was caught poaching, I was asked to explain my actions. After I gave my apology, Mr. Lucy, clearly moved offered me a position in the clergy. The sermons I heard in churches would later inform my abilities in oratory and rhetoric.
>>16119134
Amusing but I am no match for Francis. His mind has always communed with the stars.
>>16119154
Yes, why do you ask?

>> No.16119199

>>16119123
In Romeo and Juliet, end of act III, when Prince Escalus says "But I'll amerce you with so strong a fine", can you confirm that the word "fine" only refers to Romeo being banished? Many scholarly editions are not clear enough about that, and tend to suggest that they may be a later financial "fine".
Also, why is one of the prostitutes (mentioned by the servants who carry away the wishes after the feast at the Capulet's) called "SUSAN Grindstone"? I get the "Grindstone" name, but what about Susan? It kinda bugs me because it's also the name of the Nurse's late child (the one that died long ago).

>> No.16119205

>>16119199
>there
>dishes

>> No.16119216

>>16119183
>I did a great many odd jobs during (what Wikipedia labels as) my lost years. From a print-makers apprentice to a cleric. My encounter with Sir Thomas Lucy was greatly exaggerated however. After I was caught poaching, I was asked to explain my actions. After I gave my apology, Mr. Lucy, clearly moved offered me a position in the clergy. The sermons I heard in churches would later inform my abilities in oratory and rhetoric.
But didn't you make fun of him in a rhyme?

>> No.16119243

>>16119132
Also to answer your question, its either Hamlet or The Winter's Tale. Hamlet for obvious reasons but Winter's Tale is my autobiography. The sweetest of all gifts would come to me at the end of my years where I would retire content and resolved. Much of the play was inspired by different episodes in my life, the unfortunate luck of my parents and the tragic death of my son. Fearing that God had forsaken me I was unable to perform my duties as His servant properly. The comfort accorded to me in my later years dispelled that notion. I hope you can forgive me for the bad formatting, I'm still not used to this technology and standardized spelling.
>>16119199
It was supposed to be all encompassing, but because the Prince was in a fit of fury so clarification is not that important. The appeal to emotion loses its flavor when made concise
>>16119216
All in good fun Anonymous

>> No.16119248

why didn't you own any books? why didn't you ever travel to italy despite being obsessed with it? why didn't you teach your children to read or write? why are you taking credit for Edward de Vere's work?

>> No.16119252
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16119252

>>16119123
Is it true you are Francis Bacon, achieved immortality, took on the name of St. Germain, and became an Ascended Master of Theosophy? And do you really look like pic related now?

>> No.16119272

>>16119123
Have you read “death of a salesmen”

Second question, when talking to plebeians (the other posters) and mid-wits(me) do you feel like you have to tone down your intellect?

>> No.16119278

>>16119243
>All in good fun Anonymous
Indeed. But I have to ask, do you agree with the statement by a later grey-haired historian that you act as King of all English speaking nations, which we can forever rally under even when without a king or show of a parliament?

>> No.16119293

Which work of literature that came out after your 'death' did you enjoy the most?

>> No.16119351

>>16119248
>why didn't you own any books?
I did own books but I donated all but my Ovid and Bible to the nearby grammar schools
>why didn't you ever travel to italy despite being obsessed with it?
Italy makes for a fashionable locale for playwrights because it houses all sorts of characters and because the common public is not accustomed to the reality of those stereotypes, they can neither confirm nor deny their existence. There's another reason too but I trust you know all about it, if not go back to why a play like Edward II caused me so much problems.
>why didn't you teach your children to read or write?
My wife realizing that even after my great learning only amounted to petty scribble maker realized that was no point. Hamnet was schooled but Judith and Susanna were girls and their allegiance was to their home. There were little opportunities for even educated women to seek work so it was more important to have them work on their land and marry into a good family.
>why are you taking credit for Edward de Vere's work?
Uh huh
>>16119252
Entertaining theory but hogwash, good to see I'm venerated never thought it was a possibility.
>>16119272
No, it seems interesting.
I've never looked down upon another human being. Remember anon I was to go to Oxford but my father's ruin crushed my chances. You're only a mid-wit when you think of yourself as someones better. My conversations with Marlowe and Jonson proved that learning is no substitute for wit and cunning and that natural wisdom cannot be found in learning.
>>16119278
You must provide me with a source sir
>>16119293
Sir Thomas Urquhart's Translation of Rabelais and Benito Cereno by Herman Melville

>> No.16119397

William, you still owe me a shilling. Think not that I've forgotten that!

>> No.16119439

>>16119351
>Benito Cereno by Herman Melville
shaxpy would never

>> No.16119442

>>16119123
Is it true that you're a black woman?

>> No.16119450

>>16119442
that was his mistress

>> No.16119460

>>16119397
I don't owe you anything sir
>>16119439
Reminded me of the stories Florio used to tell from Matteo Bandello
>>16119442
Why does everyone keep asking me that?

>> No.16119494

>>16119123
How did you marry Anne Hathaway?

>> No.16119532

>>16119351
>You must provide me with a source sir
No, no it is too long, and from a rather greatly loved old Scottish historian too, would you care to comment still?

>> No.16119551

>>16119123
Was Cristopher Marlowe a Protestant or a Catholic? Are you secretly Catholic?

>> No.16119617

fuck you

>> No.16119703

>>16119494
She forced me impregnate her. Good woman
>>16119532
I think I know who you're talking about. The sentiment I found touching but you must understand that both him and his disciple would occasionally go into these flights of fancy that would fail to address the numerous flaws with the object in question.
Tyndale, Florio, Spenser, Golding, North and Lyly have far superior qualities but the work that they have produced may have fallen out of favor with general public. My good fortune was that I worked for a fluctuating market and was able to produce a healthy amount of plays because of it, but we mustn't not forget luck. My good friend Marlowe died just before he was touched by brilliance. We will never know what magic he was capable of because of his early departure. Jonson wrote by feeling not by heart which meant he would often celebrate his inadequacies so his characters would be subservient to his verse. Kyd had been tortured and died shortly after his wounds and Spencer wrote in allegory with language obscure and in keeping with the intellect. All these men possessed a quality far better to me but some left us early and other worked where their talents were celebrated. This is perhaps the only difference. I can't be a king when my subjects are far superior in both intellect and knowledge and the ones that came after me, Browne and Taylor I feel aren't celebrated enough.
>>16119551
I doubt he practiced religion. As for me, I believe in the Lord and Jesus Christ.

>> No.16119761

>>16119703
But surely, in response to your second reply there, that Shakespeare in contrast to a Dante or a Homer, shows enough his crowning brilliance? Where it could be argued you would have been eclipsed by great others of his age, we no doubt know that you are the greatest of your age for whatever reasons, and stand on par with the other great poets of the world. Because of this it is unlikely the other great poets of your age would have reached your heights.

And to be clear, I am referring to the historian Carlyle.

>> No.16119861

So what's your relation to Pope Adrian IV?

>> No.16119975
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16119975

>>16119861
Based and Morrispilled

>> No.16119998
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16119998

Move aside, the real Will-I-Am Shake-speare (17th Earl of Oxford Edward de Vere) has arrived

>> No.16120319

>>16119998
fucking knew it

>> No.16120320

>>16119761
I knew anon but understand this, I wrote poetry in an age where it was both profitable and sought after. The ones that came after me did not have this privilege and those who did (Goethe) did not write in a language as popular as English. How many brilliant men have we glossed over simply because we do not speak their language?
We know Rumi, We know Al-Mutanabbī , We know Imru’ al-Qais but they are not taught in our schools and they have not received the attention they deserve. My place in the canon has been deserved but if Arabic or Chinese was the lingua franca of the world perhaps I would not have been as revered as I am now. As it is, I have much to offer and I did write in the most popular of languages but my status as example of genius should be considered more thoroughly.

>> No.16120335

>>16119123
how many bussies did you bust fat nuts into?

>> No.16120387

1)Would you say that the character of John Falstaff is a avatar of at least some of your sensibilities? I find his wit to be of similar merit often ascribed to you, there’s also the name which is I think one of the many examples of your wordplay. Shake-spear. Fall-staff

2)would you describe yourself as having nihilistic or platonistic/gnostic sensibilities? I noticed while reading Henry the IV part 2 and hamlet that there is a stated quotes of “turning the solid into air and dissipating from existence”.

3) how did you actually die and why did you give your wife the second best bed?

4) what are your thoughts on your biggest fanboy Harold bloom

5) please try retrieving cardenio from your memory

>> No.16120395

>>16120320
It has been considered very thoroughly, you are one of the greatest.

>> No.16120402

>>16120387
Lol u do know he isn’t actually Shakespeare, hes just a guy pretending lmao

>> No.16120413

>>16119123
Who is the Dark Lady of the sonnets?

>> No.16120447

>>16120402
Plot twist, ghost are real and Shakespeares just happens to browse /lit/

>> No.16120460

>>16120402
How awful to be you.

>> No.16120463

>>16119123
Why is Othello such a threadbare play?

>> No.16120475

>>16120460
Hehe, also Santa doesn’t exist, hehe

>> No.16120483
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16120483

>>16120475
hehe hehe hehe

>> No.16120495

>>16120483
Hahahaha

>> No.16120557

>>16120402
>he doesn’t know ghosts are real
Have sex.

>>16120447
I wonder what threads he posts on

>> No.16120627

>>16120557
Probably just stays in writing general threads to laugh his ass off

>> No.16120633

>>16120557
I post on this one.

>> No.16120734

>>16120395
God knows I tried humility. Thank you for this anon.
>>16120387
>1)Would you say that the character of John Falstaff is a avatar of at least some of your sensibilities? I find his wit to be of similar merit often ascribed to you, there’s also the name which is I think one of the many examples of your wordplay. Shake-spear. Fall-staff
Yes. I wrote Falstaff for the audiences but his humor came from within. Our work lives and dies by its merits and if it be too dour and rough then the audiences create preconceived notions that might put a damper on finances. X is a writer of comedies but tragedies are more fashionable these days so Y seems like a nicer alternative. The goal is to write a considerable amount so that audiences will be kept entertained for as long as possible. I challenged the best of what I found in my community and gave it to Falstaff. The wit and boisterous was supplied by Malrowe and Jonson. His attacks and the faults of his character I attribute to
Robert Greene. There might be other great man but their names escape me. I hope my answer was satisfying.
>2)would you describe yourself as having nihilistic or platonistic/gnostic sensibilities? I noticed while reading Henry the IV part 2 and hamlet that there is a stated quotes of “turning the solid into air and dissipating from existence”.
No, when I wrote those plays I was not in the proper state of mind. Sometimes I was swept away by the reality of my circumstances which(perhaps implicitly) informed the tone of my plays. Hamlet I wrote as elegy for my son. Having gone through the sorrows of losing a child and of knowing that as a son I could not amount to much, the situation and its succeeding sadness forced itself upon me when I wrote those lines. When one is deeply entrenched into the psychology of a character, one forgoes his own notions and beliefs
>3) how did you actually die and why did you give your wife the second best bed?
I'm still with you anon, I never left. The second best bed was a token of my love. Knowing our children she would be reimbursed for her troubles so a will was only a formality. Our secret passions and desires, those things that only we share with our loved ones, that's what the second best bed represents. A bed is used only for two things (the third is only when a special occasion arises)
>4) what are your thoughts on your biggest fanboy Harold bloom
I am glad he likes me but as I've said before, rumors of my brilliance have been greatly exaggerated. My time was a special one, never will we see something like that again.

>> No.16120743

>>16120387
>5) please try retrieving cardenio from your memory
I wish I could but I only supplied the lines, the plotting was Fletcher's domain. We wrote in a sort of frenzy and the play itself was nothing worth remembering. There were few memorable scenes, one involved the embalming of a horse which Cardenio believed was Rocinate. I remember Fletcher saying that he chose this character because he represented all that was "morally abhorrent" in Don Quixote. Whether he was criticizing or celebrating I will never know but he did borrow more plot lines from it so I take that comment as a positive.

>> No.16120792

How do I read the verse in Book I of Paradise Lost by John Milton?

>> No.16120880

>>16120792
Slowly