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What do I read to get into modern philosophy?

I'm not really interested in philosophers pre 1960

>> No.16113649

>>16113613
go back

>> No.16113656
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>>16113613
You start with the Greeks

>> No.16113670

>>16113649
No.jpg
>>16113656
I've already read the major greeks, the major romans, the major scholastics, kant, descartes, hume, spinoza, and a lot of other great philosophers but I'm much more interested in modern philosophy and how it works in the 21st century.

>> No.16113689
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>>16113613
See pic related for philosophy of language/mind.

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>>16113689
And pic related for philosophy of science/math.

>> No.16113705

>>16113694
>>16113689
Thanks, this should keep me occupied for a time

>> No.16113735

>>16113613
why

>> No.16113744

>>16113613
Just read Nietzsche and then repeat what he says about everyone before him. Easiest shortcut there is

>> No.16114754

>>16113670
>how it works in the 21st century
It doesn't.

>> No.16114766

>>16113689
>>16113694
very analytic biased, 60% of this is pseud tier

>> No.16114842

>>16114766
>>>/x/

>> No.16114860

>>16114766
you haven't read a single book on either of those lists, come off it

>> No.16114863

>>16113649
This.
Might as well read old instruction manuals for crap you don't own.

>> No.16114873

>>16113613
>modern philosophy
It’s shit, don’t read it. No philosopher has truly contended with nihilism yet and it won’t happen for another 30 years

>> No.16114890

>>16114860
i have, not the 60% that are outdated pseud shit though

paging carnapfag

>> No.16114891

>>16114873
>all philosophy is ethics

oh no no no no ahahahahahahahhahaha

>> No.16114902

>>16114873
"Nihilism" is not a thing in philosophy, you edgy teenager.

>> No.16114909

>>16113613
Just join a local university's socialist club and take a shit-tonne of acid.

>> No.16114912

Anything past the 30s is useless

>> No.16114918
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OP, have you tried Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig? Or maybe The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck by Mark Manson? Both introductory, I'll admit, but excellent examples of modern philosophical writings. They really made a difference in my attitudes towards life!

>> No.16114924

>>16114918
Nice bait

>> No.16115045

>>16114891

You can't refute because it's true

BOOM how my asshole taste? That's an ethical question bitch

>> No.16115071

>>16113613
but modern philosophy started in XV-XVI century with thinkers like Nicholas of Cusa, Erasmus of Rotterdam, Pico della Mirandola etc... You're looking for contemporary philosophy

>> No.16115107

>>16113656
WHATS THE BEST GREEK BOOK GUIDE EVERY??? I AM CURRENTLY READING MEDITATIONS BY MARCUS AND IM GONNA READ THE DISCOURSES AFTER THX

>> No.16115119

>>16113613
Well there are no philosophers after 1960 so I guess you’re shit out of luck

>> No.16115150

Start with Girard and Resume with Sloterdijk

>> No.16115168

>>16113613
Since you posted Quine I'm assuming you're not looking for continental philosophy. Read these at least:
>Naming and Necessity by Saul Kripke
>On the Plurality of Worlds by David Lewis
Some other recommendations on the other side of things, still analytic:
>Reason, Truth, and History by Hilary Putnam
>Philosophy and the Mirror of Nature by Richard Rorty
You know, technically Quine's Word and Object came out in 1960, so you could read that if you wish. I'd say these five are indisputably the most important analytic books post-1960. Now if you want a book that's more on the historical underground side of things because of how new it is, I'd recommend Theodore Sider's Writing the Book of the World, assuming you like metaphysics and metametaphysics. I feel that book will be seen as one of the most important analytic metaphysics works but it's less than ten years old. Metametaphysics (a compilation of new essays edited by David Chalmers and some other people) is a good introduction to that topic and the form it's taken recently, so if you want to know what analytic metaphysics is up to since the days of David Lewis I'd check that out as well.

>> No.16115251

>>16114766
>analytic biased
It says at the top that it's a chart for analytic phil. What did you expect?

>> No.16115411
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I heard Molymeme is the most famous modern philosopher

>> No.16115419

>>16113613
There's some pre 60s philosophy you absolutely must know to understand anything post 60s

Frege, Russell, Wittgenstein, Carnap are absolute prerequisites. Would be good also to know Austin, Strawson, Ryle.

>> No.16115441

>>16115419
Seconded. The essentials:
Frege:
>Sense and Reference
>The Though
>Concept and Object
Russell:
>On Denoting
>On the Nature of Acquaintance
>The Philosophy of Logical Atomism
Wittgenstein:
>Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
>Philosophical Investigations
Carnap:
>The Logical Structure of the World
>Empiricism, Semantics, and Ontology
Austin:
>Sense and Sensibilia
Ryle:
>The Concept of Mind
Strawson:
>On Referring
I hear Strawson's Individuals is good as well but I haven't read any of it.

>> No.16115487

Why don't you just read a shitload of fiction? I find that I read something, it makes me think, and I'll just go on a naturally occurring quest for knowledge

>maybe the real modern philosophy is the friends we made along the way

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>>16114766
>/lit/ guide to (analytic) philosophy
>woah, this is very analytic biased!

>> No.16115521

>>16113744
lmfao

>> No.16117069

bump

>> No.16117840

>>16115441
Anon you're responding to here. I definitely second this list, it's compact but covers the essentials. I would only add: Frege's "Foundations of Arithmetic" is absolutely fundamental, and is also an absolute joyful work of philosophy. I would also add Strawson's Individuals, it's fantastic and cram-packed with interesting arguments and ideas; it pairs extremely nicely with a lot of Quine's writings on reference.

>> No.16118600

bump

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>>16113613
>modern
>post-1960
For fuck's sake, read a little