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>be fictionfag
>realize that fiction can be a veichle for important lessons and ideas as much as nonfiction
>try out nonfiction because "start with the greeks!"
>ok.wav
>read Plato's Republic
>literally stalin before stalin was even a vision in one of his ancerstor's dream
>proposes for a fundamentally doomed idea of a republic
>mfw it was just a meme
>mfw i was better get started with Nietzsche as any other edgy kiddo
>mfw i got more from reading fucking science fiction than this

>> No.16111790

>i got more from reading fucking science fiction than this
Such as?

>> No.16111808

If you get more out of science fiction than philosophy thats really just you being retarded

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>>16111767

>> No.16111831

what a colossal faggot
>reads Plato as practical advice on how to establish your own state

explain why finding out that his theories on the dynamics of politics are timeless is bad:
>literally stalin before stalin was even a vision in one of his ancerstor's dream

>> No.16111833

>>16111767
>Implying stalin did anything wrong

>> No.16111843

>>16111767
>veichle
Haze yourself.

>> No.16111859

>>16111790
The Intergalatic Republic from Trek Wars is infinitely more complex and subtle, since its in space

>> No.16111872

>>16111767
>>literally stalin before stalin was even a vision in one of his ancerstor's dream
When will people realise Communism is a purely materialistic appreciation of the Republic, thereby a completely shallow and surface tier, pragmatic and soulless and negating, reading of Plato.

Why do people still not understand Plato properly? What I mean is why is this not made an ease by someone, I will make it my duty to at least give spiritually conductive and morally guiding introductions and at least partial explanations of his dialogues for the students. It is no good thing that our youth come a cropper today when so many are reading Plato!

>> No.16111908

Nice bait, I kek'd. 7/10

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>>16111767
>claims he started with the Greeks
>what he actually did was read the most famous of Plato’s works in isolation without proper context even though it should be one of the last you read

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Op here

>> No.16112162

>>16111767
stick to capeshit please

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>starts with the greeks
>no homer, hesiod, presocratics, tragedies, comedies
>IDONTGETIT

>> No.16112298

>>16111992
>>16112271
Having a basic understanding of Greek mythology and the Iliad is enough to read Republic, pseuds. OP is just a low IQ teenager.

>> No.16112372

>>16111767
Stalin was right.

>> No.16112402

>>16111767
I have found some extremely interesting discussion of what it means to be human in the FOREIGNER series by CJ Cherryh.