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Fiction and nonfiction. Recommend one or a few, please.
> inb4 muH wAmEn cAn’t wriTe
Go away. I’m disturbed by the recent trends of this board away from legitimate intellectual discussion and towards /pol/-tier faggotry. Your retarded vitriol has no place here; /lit/ is, or at least should be, a board that stands above the muck of seething, book-burning copers.

>> No.16108677

>>16108669
False flag woman hate thread

>> No.16108693

>>16108669
I don't read books by women writers because i don't respect them.

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>>16108669
>I will always remember my encounter with the writer and cultural icon Susan Sontag, largely because it was on the same day that I met the great Benoit Mandelbrot. I took place in 2001, two months after the terrorist event, in a radio station in New York. Sontag who was being interviewed, was pricked by the idea of a fellow who “studies randomness” and came to engage me. When she discovered that I was a trader, she blurted out that she was “against the market system” and turned her back to me as I was in mid-sentence, just to humiliate me (note here that courtesy is an application of the Silver rule), while her female assistant gave me the look, as if I had been convicted of child killing. I sort of justified her behavior in order to forget the incident, imagining that she lived in some rural commune, grew her own vegetables, wrote on pencil and paper, engaged in barter transactions, that type of stuff.

>No, she did not grow her own vegetables, it turned out. Two years later, I accidentally found her obituary (I waited a decade and a half before writing about the incident to avoid speaking ill of the departed). People in publishing were complaining about her rapacity; she had to squeeze her publisher, Farrar Strauss and Giroud of what would be several million dollars today for a book advance. She shared, with a girlfriend, a mansion in New York City, one that was later sold for $28 million dollars. Sontag probably felt that insulting people with money inducted her into some unimpeachable sainthood, exempting her from having skin in the game.

>It is immoral to be in opposition of the market system and not live (like the Unabomber) in a hut isolated from it

>> No.16108717

>>16108696
Go away Nassim

>> No.16108724

>>16108696
>jew is a cunt
My worldview would have saved him the shock.

>> No.16108756

Anne Dillard has some good books.
Sontag is a kike fag hag.

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>>16108669
>women
>being able to write
Kek, nice joke anon.

>> No.16108764

>>16108696
i dont understand. what's his problem? or maybe what's her problem? what's wrong with them? what's the issue?

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>>16108724
>>16108717
>>16108696
>>16108693
>>16108677
Posts hidden. Shut up

>>16108669
>>16108669
I’ll start
> Fleur Jaeggy - Last Vanities
Haunting, dark, spare, nimble stories from this Italian-Swiss master of the short form.
> Octavia Butler - Bloodchild and Other Stories
Some of her best. The titular tale, which depicts humanity being farmed as “axolotl tanks” by an insectoid species, is surprisingly elegant and intimate.
> Susan Sontag - The Volcano Lovers
This is a really good novel (yes she wrote fiction too) and I highly recommend it to fans of Sebald and Walser. The multiple streams of historical and literary references are quite compelling.

>> No.16108769

>>16108764
You have poor reading comprehension.

>> No.16108770

>>16108764
Arab vs Jew: Electric Boogaloo

>> No.16108772

>>16108756
i want some names of any fag woman that isn't a hag nor a kike for curiosity's sake now.

>> No.16108781

>>16108772
I mean all fag women eventually become hags unless they die young. Lots of them weren't kikes though

>> No.16108788

>>16108669
>women writers I like
Austen
Eliot
Cather
Pearl S. Buck
Flannery O'Connor
Katherine Anne Porter
Edith Wharton
Elizabeth Taylor (not the actress retards)
Marguerite Yourcenar
Patricia Highsmith
>women writers that literary normies seem to like who i think are shit
Virginia Woolf
Joan Didion
Doris Lessing
Margaret Atwood
Joyce Carol Oates
Isabel Allende (an affront to latin/south american literature, so shitty)
Jhumpa Lahiri
almost any contemporary female author for that matter

>> No.16108805

>>16108768
>mass reply
>kike writers
low bait

>> No.16108813

>>16108788
I strongly agree with your characterization of allende, and lahiris been embarrassing since interpreter of maladies, but calling pseud if you truly think the rest have nothing worthwhile.
Especially Woolf - come on!

>> No.16108822

>>16108788
How in the holy fucking shit do you think Virginia Woolf is shit?

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>>16108768
>S-shut up!

>> No.16108827

Midwit post >>16108768

Here's my (Lindy) answer to OP's question:

- Sappho
- Hildegard von Bingen
- Beatriz de Dia
- Murasaki Shikibu
- Gaspara Stampa
- Ines de la Cruz
- Madame de Sévigné
- St. Teresa

If you want to read in English:

- Elizabeth Browning
- Christina Rossetti
- Emily Dickinson

>> No.16108834

>>16108669
To the the Lighthouse and Orlando are very good. The Heart is a Lonely Hunter also, not great but pretty good

>> No.16108849
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Anne Carson anyone? Enjoyed Autobiography of Red but haven’t gotten into too much of her other stuff

>> No.16108855

>>16108788
Could you name a few particular books! Interested to hear

>> No.16108857

Assia Djebar
Clarice Lispector is pretty remarkable imo
idk there are probably others.

>> No.16108864

>>16108849
I've read her tango book and it was funny, but it also seemed pretentious and overly sentimental.

>> No.16108865

>>16108669
Shakespeare

>> No.16108871

>>16108857
OP meant human females, so no sandniggers

>> No.16108873

>>16108857
Recommend some titles by both, please? Been meaning to check out Djebar. Have read Agua viva and several short stories by Lispector, need to read more of her work

>> No.16108878

>>16108857
Clarice Lispector is the most overrated of all Brazilian authors.

If you are so into women, read Cecília Meireles and Hild Hilst instead - the first one is miles better, while the second is funnier and more original (and better too).

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light a penny candle. mave binchy

>> No.16108953

>>16108669
I easily own 1000 books and the amount of women authors I could count on a few hands. I have picked up books that looked interesting and carried them around with me only to put them back when I noticed they were written by women.

>> No.16108959

>>16108953
sounds like a few of your books belong in the trash anon.

>> No.16108967

>>16108768

You deserve everything and more for self-derailing your own thread with Sontag. Still, she did have certain agreeable aesthetic opinions. She wrote an intro for a Cioran book, and she liked the art film Begotten. You will be made to endure another four years of Trump, by the way.

>> No.16108984

>>16108953
>
very cool! awesome! way to go!

>> No.16108991

i really like eudora welty. the others i can think of have been mentioned already.

>> No.16109007

Flannery O'Conner is the only woman author worth reading.

>> No.16109171

>>16108822
She's not as bad as the others, like a 7/10. I just think she gets dicksucked a little too much and it's undeserved. I've read her 5 major books and a few short stories, and don't feel I'll probably ever have the desire to reread any, unless perhaps I read along with friends or a book club. I admit my opinion is probably swayed a bit by the fact that I think she was kind of a bitch, had a big ego, and grew up with a silver spoon whilst simultaneously harboring so much resentment her whole life. I can name a few better female writers with similar topics/style of novels if you like.
>>16108855
>Austen
All of them are good, but for me I most admire Persuasion and Mansfield Park
>George Eliot
Only read Daniel Deronda and Middlemarch but they were both great, I plan to read more of her in the future
>Willa Cather
Plains trilogy and Death Comes for the Archbishop, after that I've been disappointed although there are some surprises, I liked The Professor's House
>Pearl S. Buck
The Good Earth trilogy, I mainly like the first two
>Flannery O'Connor
everything fiction and nonfiction
>Katherine Anne Porter
Flowering Judas and Pale Horse, Pale Rider are a good start, favorite is Ship of Fools, and she has good essays
>Edith Wharton
Age of Innocence, I've read 3 others and didn't particularly care for them, I guess House of Mirth has some good writing in it
>Elizabeth Taylor (not the actress retards)
One of my favorite female short story writers of the realist type, The Blush and Other Stories, and her novel A Wreath of Roses, are favorites
>Marguerite Yourcenar
Memoirs of Hadrian is the top of course, That Mighty Sculptor Time is a book of essays I return to and read bits out of often, would like to read more of her soon
>Patricia Highsmith
the Ripley stuff except the last book, couldn't get through it, and Strangers on a Train, she's a genre writer but a good stylist, a female Chandler if you will

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>>16108669
Marguerite Duras

>> No.16109406

>>16108953
>George Eliot, huh?
>Book looks kinda gay, but it says here it's a classic.
>*reads*
>This IS gay.
>*looks up author*
>HARLOT!

>> No.16109426

Talented Mr Ripley

>> No.16109430

should be more specific, there's too many to list

recent favorites include zurn, seghers, kavan, and ocampo

>> No.16109455

>>16109430
good taste

titles & more recommendations pls

>> No.16109755

>>16109306
man i want to punch people who pose with cigarettes

>> No.16109777

>>16108669
Hurts me that nobody has said it but Ursula K Le Guin. She is hit or miss but has generally well-recieved titles within her Hainish series.

>> No.16109794

>>16108669
Any non-fiction by Annie Dillard

Pilgrim at Tinker Creek
For the Time Being

>> No.16109796

>>16108669
Why are you so eager to read female authors specifically? You get off on it don't you.

>> No.16109812

>>16108696
Sontag was most certainly a cunt, but his generalization at the end there is retarded.

>> No.16109913

>>16109777
More sci fi/fantasy

CJ Cherryh (Cyteen, Downbelow Station)
Diana Wynne Jones (fun YA lit)
E Nesbit (Five Children and It)
CS Friedman (Black Sun Rising)

>> No.16110063

>>16108669
Women can't write.
>>16108724
This + Taleb is super stupid.

>> No.16110076

>>16108768
>s-shut up!
t. Susan Sontag browsing from hell.

>> No.16110094

>>16108693
i only have sex with them

>> No.16110115

Savitri Devi

>> No.16110170

>>16108669
I non ironically enjoy Agatha Christie’s books. They may not be high lit but being able to write fun, accessible and wholesome entertainment is an admirable skill.

>> No.16110174

>>16108669
I enjoy the poetry of Emily Dickinson, Elizabeth Bishop and Marianne Moore. In terms of prose, I enjoy Katherine Mansfield, Virginia Woolf and Flannery O’Connor.

>> No.16110211

>sylvia plath
>sylvia plath
>sylvia plath
>sylvia plath
>sylvia plath
>sylvia plath

>> No.16110214

>>16108669
the manipulated man

>> No.16110220

>>16108849
came here to say anne carson is based. her lectures were interesting, i recommend lecture on Corners.

>> No.16110476

>>16108953
What a retard.

>> No.16110485

>>16108669
If you like transgressive fiction read Gabrielle Wittkopp, specificly her short novel "the necrophiliac"

>> No.16110514

>>16108696
BASED TALEB
hypocrite susan

>> No.16110552

A few ones I've read recently and liked:

* 84, Charing Cross Road by Helene Hanff
* The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath
* Life Form byAmélie Nothomb
* Wetlands by Charlotte Roche

>> No.16111035

The secret history by Donna tard

>> No.16111092

Sylvia Plath

That's it

>> No.16111114

>>16108669
kys simp

>> No.16111121

>It is only the man whose intellect is clouded by his sexual impulses that could give the name of the fair sex to that under-sized, narrow-shouldered, broad-hipped, and short-legged race; for the whole beauty of the sex is bound up with this impulse. Instead of calling them beautiful, there would be more warrant for describing women as the un-aesthetic sex. Neither for music, nor for poetry, nor for fine art, have they really and truly any sense or susceptibility; it is a mere mockery if they make a pretence of it in order to assist their endeavor to please. Hence, as a result of this, they are incapable of taking a purely objective interest in anything; and the reason of it seems to me to be as follows. A man tries to acquire direct mastery over things, either by understanding them, or by forcing them to do his will. But a woman is always and everywhere reduced to obtaining this mastery indirectly, namely, through a man; and whatever direct mastery she may have is entirely confined to him. And so it lies in woman's nature to look upon everything only as a means for conquering man; and if she takes an interest in anything else, it is simulated--a mere roundabout way of gaining her ends by coquetry, and feigning what she does not feel. Hence, even Rousseau declared: Women have, in general, no love for any art; they have no proper knowledge of any; and they have no genius

>> No.16111136

>>16111121
A reminder that Arthur looked like a literal bitter goblin

>> No.16111242

Ayn Rand was a good novelist, especially her pre-Atlas Shrugged books.

Her two books on writing (The Art of Fiction and The Art of Nonfiction) are good too.

Her polemical books are fun reads because her rhetoric is engaging, though the ideas are retarded.

>> No.16111858

I don't have anything against female writers but I don't own a single book written by a woman except my embryology textbook.

>> No.16111868

>>16111136
>Haha u ugglee

Yep roastie confirmed

>> No.16111873

>>16110211
>tfw the greatest pain of being a woman is not being able to get fucked by ALL the chads of the chad fig tree.

>> No.16111889

If you're into sci-fi or anarchism, you'll be doing yourself a favor by reading anything by Ursula K LeGuin. My favorite is the Dispossessed followed by The Left Hand of Darkness.

>> No.16111909

>I don't engage with women intellectually. Here's the thing. I don't engage with women at all as a married man. I discuss things with my wife relevant to a married couple but I would say attempting to engage with a female mind other than my wife teeters on adultery. Its not so much that the nature of the sexes are ironclad but its more about myself. The male brain is just as much a sex organ as the penis. Both get shit done. Why would I want to give any other woman the right to my secrets? My father taught me this and his father taught him. Mans mind can contain blueprints of an entire city but barely has room for one woman. No I dont engage with women intellectually. I have nothing against them attempting whatever study but I would not hear of it now or in the future.

>> No.16111919

>>16111909
this sounds like a DFW character

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>> No.16112236

>>16109777
>>>/v/
>>>/tg/
>>>/co/

>> No.16112666

>>16108669
Susan Sontag has the worldview of an ugly teenage girl

>> No.16113202
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Mary Eberstadt

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This book is very good. She's also pretty cute

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>>16108669

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can't believe no one has mentioned her yet

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>> No.16113298

>>16112160
is this a historical novel?

>> No.16113300

>>16108696
holy KEK

>> No.16113328

>>16113298
just checked and yes it is

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>>16108669
Leonora Carrington wrote bredy gud short stories in addition to being an excellent surrealist painter

>> No.16115352

>>16108669
the holy bible

>> No.16115371

>>16115037
Looks like Helena Bonham Carter

>> No.16116438

>>16108768
>yes she wrote fiction too
I didn't know she wrote non-fiction.

>> No.16116943

monique wittiig - l'opoponax

>> No.16117057

The Need for Roots: prelude towards a declaration of duties towards mankind

>> No.16117073

>>16108669
Very happy this cunt is dead. She doesn't have a soul so I can't say I'm also happy she's being tormented in hell.

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>>16108669
>Atwoods maddaddam trilogy is the best science fiction from the current century and /lit/ is still in the dark

yeah she's a fucking liberal coward but her writing is top notch

>> No.16117082

>>16108669
>away from legitimate intellectual discussion and towards /pol/-tier faggotry.
And you post the sack of shit that called an entire race of people a 'cancer'. Do you have no self-awareness at all?

>> No.16117086

>>16117082
Name your top five

>> No.16117100

>>16117086
top 5 what? It is ridiculous to say you want to avoid /pol/posting and then post someone like fucking Sontag

>> No.16117121

>>16117082
>And you post the sack of shit that called an entire race of people a 'cancer'.
>kike considers non jews less than human subjects

no way

>> No.16117130

>>16111909
He's right. Communicating with other people of the opposite sex beyond absolute necessity if you're in a relationship is basically adultery.

>> No.16117138

The (?) Joy Luck Club

Their Eyes were Watching God

The (?) Kitchen God's Wife

The Color Purple

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>>16117100
I’m not OP.
Just wondering what authors are your favourites

>> No.16117146

>>16117138
I had to read The Joy Luck Club for school. All the chapters about childhood and life in China were great but the chapters about them being adult women dealing with their shitty marriages mostly sucked.

>> No.16117148

>>16117138
I liked Kitchen God’s Wife a lot. More focused.
Hundred Secret Senses is my favourite though.

>> No.16117155

>>16117141
OP here, I already posted many of my favorites in this thread, and others have posted good ones too.

>> No.16117157

>>16117148

Is Kitchen God's Wife the one with the abusive asshole husband, set in WW2 China?

I felt really bad for the Kitchen God's Wife.

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>>16108788
>Yourcenar
Funny story, I started reading 'Memoirs of Hadrian' thinking it was actually the memoirs of Hadrian. It was so well written I quickly became suspicious and upon discovering that I was an idiot had such a crisis of confidence in myself that I put the book down and have not gone back to it. I look forward to my ego healing so I can actually read it. I recall it being excellent.

>> No.16117184

>>16117155
Was asking >>16117082
The seriously thin skinned sourpuss

>>16117157
Yeah that’s the one. A few recycled plot devices from JLC, but the ending was more satisfying.
Hundred Secret Senses was the first not really about the author or her mom, but stuff she had been reading (like Caleb Carr’s Devil Soldier)

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>>16109306
Please use the cute picture in future.

>> No.16117201

>>16108788
>Flannery O'Connor

I will make a shrine for her if I ever move out of my dump of an apartment.

>> No.16117210

>>16117183
That nearly happened to me with The Travels of Anacharsis the Younger. Hadn’t read it, but mistook him for a genuine historical figure

>> No.16117238

>>16111242
Ayn Rand a fun read? Engaging rhetoric? What alternate universe do you live in?

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>>16117184
>>16117157
~best Tan coming through~

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>>16108669
Kristeva and Irigaray are my favorite female philosophers/thinkers and I do not care what any incels on here have to say about that. They're both brilliant and have many works filled with fascinating ideas.

>> No.16117776

>>16117438
>Irigaray
Is that the "Einstein's equation is sexed" lady?

>> No.16118352

I get that this is an image board, but could you retards please at least change the filenames to the author's names. How can you except us to know who the fuck that is?

>> No.16118355

>>16118352
you can reverse image search. they even made it easy for retards, if you click the little arrow next to the post number it gives you an option to reverse image search

>> No.16118396

>>16118352
Sontag is pretty well known to be fair