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[Anonymous No.16101597]

All this knowledge and you still can't figure out what it takes to be happy.

[Anonymous No.16101600]

>>16101597
Self Esteem.

[Anonymous No.16101602]

>>16101597
Keep on, keeping on, I spoze

[Anonymous No.16101613]

>>16101600
This

[Anonymous No.16101617]

>>16101597
today I learnt that my insurance covers psychiatric treatment. I'll finally have someone to talk about Jungean stuff and my 21's coke abuse

[Anonymous No.16101686]

>>16101597
I'm happy. Ask me anything.

[Anonymous No.16101704]

>>16101686
cope

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16101743]

>>16101597
Cloistered lonely men have a historically bad habit of coming up with a lot of rancid ideas.
Brain surgeon Leonard Shlain theorizes that sudden literacy, on a previously illiterate line, tends to bring out misanthropic, misogynistic and violent tendencies in people.
Why else would they shit on the smartest of all the Greek philosophers, Epicurus? Why instead worship life denying deities, follow endless lines of despots and openly advocate rape and slavery as a natural order? Why not the nice and true path?

[Anonymous No.16101779]

Its not something that is purely internal. A healthy society means happier individuals so its not like you can just will society to be better with your knowledge

[Anonymous No.16101781]

This but with books

[Anonymous No.16101782]

>>16101597
I figured it out, I just don’t do it.

[Anonymous No.16101804]

>>16101597
I started with little things..a fresh cup of coffee in the morning..the smell, the taste, trying to appreciate all ot it. The smell of the air in the early morning, how it even tastes different. I think just paying attention to what you like and try to breathe it in without expectation or worry about whether it fits a specific mode of what is happiness. Let yourself enjoy things.

[Anonymous No.16101847]

>>16101779
We cannot choose our external circumstances, but we can always choose how we respond to them.

[Anonymous No.16101863]

>>16101847
>Don't have any food
>Guess I'll just choose not to be hungry

[Anonymous No.16101902]

>>16101863
No you faggot you don't do nothing because there is no food in the fridge you get some any way you can.

[Anonymous No.16101926]

>>16101743
Nobody cares butters

[Anonymous No.16101929]

>>16101847
>but we can always choose
No, you can't.

[Anonymous No.16101970]

>>16101779
humanists are the biggest cancer on earth. I wish all those faux intellectuals would never exist.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16101974]

>>16101926
Yeah, OP came to rattle your dumb cages, not to work anything put.

[Anonymous No.16101983]

>>16101743
>the smartest of all the Greek philosophers, Epicurus

You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.16101998]

>>16101902
Ok, I'm taking yours

[Anonymous No.16102390]

>>16101597
I know what it is, I just don't have enough self control to do it.

[Anonymous No.16102409]

>>16101597
Happiness shouldn't be the goal

[Anonymous No.16102468]

>>16101743
And you are happy?

[Anonymous No.16102581]

>>16101779
BASED hegel poster

[Anonymous No.16104166]

>>16101743
If you're so happy why do you feel the compulsion to constantly come here and shitpost under your tripcode

[Anonymous No.16104221]

>>16101743
>>16102468
>>16104166
Butterfat is literally the embodiment of a femcel

[Anonymous No.16104249]

>>16101597
Happiness should never be the goal, in fact happiness as a goal is the road to ruin.
Meaning, improvement, knowledge, innovation, physical exercise these are things that will bring you long term happiness and make you strive towards more of it, but it's always a side effect.

[Anonymous No.16104253]

>>16101597
something something happy pig unhappy socrates
>>16101743
>Brain surgeon Leonard Shlain theorizes that sudden literacy, on a previously illiterate line, tends to bring out misanthropic, misogynistic and violent tendencies in people.
>Why else would they shit on the smartest of all the Greek philosophers, Epicurus?
how can you be so right and so stupid at the same time?

[Anonymous No.16104303]

>>16101781
How would that stop a fitbrah getting laid?

[Anonymous No.16104353]

>>16101847
That which comes before determines what comes after. This is true for all material things, including our moods and passions. It is true for all Prakrati. We can only choose to ignore Prakrati and focus on Atman.

True gnosis lies outside the predetermined certainty of this chthonic material world, whose body is the great material snake, Jörmungandr/Yaldaboath.

You can hang yourself from the Tree of Knowledge, but you only can ascend when you hang until death.

[Anonymous No.16104440]

>>16101597
>How to raise your Self esteem by Nathaniel Brandon.
You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.16104465]

i can though, it was one of the first things i figured out when i started reading

[Anonymous No.16104599]

>>16101743
>>16104253
It reads like a conspiracy theory:
>What triggered this profound shift was literacy’s reliance on the analytic thought processes linked to the brain’s left hemisphere. Meanwhile, the feminine traits associated with the right hemisphere were systematically devalued. This imbalance revealed itself in many ways, including a cultural decline in goddess worship and the status of women. (p. 2)
>Literacy, especially alphabet literacy, caused a biological effect that led to a fundamental change in the way cultures understood their reality. Some neuropathways in the brain were reinforced while others withered. Goddess worship, feminine values, and women’s power had depended on the ubiquity of the image. God worship, masculine values, and the paradigm of patriarchy rose with the written word. This was—and is—literacy’s hidden cost. (p. 5)
>Athens [...] produced history’s greatest concentration of thinkers, along with the first extended experiment in democracy and a rich tradition in the visual arts. The literacy-loving Athenians were the first to debate the merits of aesthetics, and they espoused many values that we associate with the feminine. (p. 6)
>Given these contrasts, one would assume that women fared better in Athenian society. The opposite was true. Athenian women were excluded from education, government, and public affairs. For all its state-sanctioned hardships and brutality, Sparta was more egalitarian. Girls and boys were educated in nearly the same manner in Sparta, and women competed in athletics. (p. 6)
>Russia, of course, was in the grip of its own malignant delirium. Thanks in part to its own sacred text, Marx’s Communist Manifesto, the now-familiar litany of left-hemispheric assaults against right-sided values had swept that land as well. The communists purged art, color, gaiety, and laughter from society. Clothing became drab, buildings gray, and smiles disappeared as people pored over their new black-and-white text. Dogma replaced rational discussion. Though communism often oppressed women, it was Mother Nature that suffered the most grievous wounds as the anti-feminine assault in the name of “industrialization” despoiled much of Russia’s pristine landscape. (p. 8)
>A show about adorable koala bears elicits essentially the same brain wave pattern as one containing violence or sexuality. In contrast, reading generates beta waves, which appear when a person is concentrating on a task. Task-oriented beta waves activate the masculine/aggressive side
of the brain of both men and women; alpha and theta waves emanate more from the feminine/nurturer side of both men and women. (p. 9)
https://www.media-ecology.org/resources/Documents/Proceedings/v3/v3-03-Shlain.pdf

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16104809]

>>16104166
It’s lazy entertainment, and I should do other things I admit. Atm I come too often because of coronachan

>>16104253
Because I’m right but you hate to admit it.
What about Epicurus? He allowed women to discuss philosophy in the garden. Leontion Was one of many women philosophers whose work has all been destroyed, along with Epicurus’ lost works, and no doubt of spite. The same kind of spite we see on /lit/

>>16104599
I think it’s a reasonable theory.

[Anonymous No.16105702]

>>16101597
alcohol and drugs

[Anonymous No.16105933]

>>16101743
>Why else would they shit on the smartest of all the Greek philosophers, Epicurus?
Shut the fuck up, Epicurean

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16105949]

>>16105933
You do know Epicureanism is negative hedonism, right?

[Anonymous No.16106031]

I take meaning over happiness any day.

[Anonymous No.16106051]

>>16101686
I'm also happy, why dont you ask ME something, asshole.

[Anonymous No.16106179]

>>16101704
Literal biggest hypocopism (hypocritical cope)

[Anonymous No.16107004]

>>16101998
I eatt :)

[Anonymous No.16107333]

>>16101597
the fuck you mean, aristotle's ethics, gym, better routines, learned socialising, and the eventual women that comes with this.

[Anonymous No.16107342]

>>16105933
As much as I hate to say a word in favour of the tripcode, you are wrong:

>When we say, then, that pleasure is the end and aim, we do not mean the pleasures of the prodigal or the pleasures of sensuality, as we are understood to do by some through ignorance, prejudice, or willful misrepresentation. By pleasure we mean the absence of pain in the body and of trouble in the soul. It is not an unbroken succession of drinking-bouts and of merrymaking, not sexual love, not the enjoyment of the fish and other delicacies of a luxurious table, which produce a pleasant life; it is sober reasoning, searching out the grounds of every choice and avoidance, and banishing those beliefs through which the greatest disturbances take possession of the soul

[Anonymous No.16107479]

>>16104809
>Because I’m right but you hate to admit it.
>What about Epicurus? He allowed women to discuss philosophy in the garden. Leontion Was one of many women philosophers whose work has all been destroyed, along with Epicurus’ lost works, and no doubt of spite. The same kind of spite we see on /lit/
it's the exact opposite, you're right about Epicurus and dumb about the other thing

[Anonymous No.16107502]

>>16104599
>What triggered this profound shift was literacy’s reliance on the analytic thought processes linked to the brain’s left hemisphere. Meanwhile, the feminine traits associated with the right hemisphere were systematically devalued. This imbalance revealed itself in many ways, including a cultural decline in goddess worship and the status of women. (p. 2)
I only need to read this far to see how bullshit this is. The often reapeated claim that there's a qualitative difference between the type of information handled by the two hemispheres (and not just a difference of functions performed) is absolute pseudoscientific horseshit unsupported by even the most far-fetching interpretation of experiments done on split brain patients.

[Anonymous No.16108008]

>>16101597
Happiness is genetic. Tough luck

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.16108034]

He who seeks happiness and puts it on a high mountain, distances himself from it to the highest degree.

He who makes happiness inconsequential to his goals and life constantly falls into happiness.

He who is in perfect forgetfulness and is simply sitting, not seeking anything, has completely satisfied himself in all ways that he truly needs and can complete.

However God is ever the Sun, glory, Virtue, happiness, honor, wisdom and so forth are his shadows. You can rest in the shadow and partake of the least amount, or you can seek the sun and be overwhelmed in the light of his overflowing immensity.

God is Good.

[Anonymous No.16108203]

>>16107342
So Epicurianism has nothing special about it, because every philosophy is essentially seeking pleasure, whether here or in the hereafter. They employ different tools, but they all want the same thing.

[Anonymous No.16108212]

>>16101597
go outside
eat vegetables
get a girlfriend
get a job
fuck pussy
there, your "depression is gone"

[今晚打老虎 No.16108301]

>>16101597
have you tried picking up something heavy and then putting it back down

[Anonymous No.16108312]

>>16108212
>>16108301
as if /fit/ is the answer

[今晚打老虎 No.16108330]

>>16108312
its not, at least not in the "this one small trick" kind of way.
its one tool, among many, that you can use. lifting, in of itself, wont make you not depressed. but itll move you in the right direction.

[Z No.16108345]

>>16101743
>openly advocate rape and slavery as a natural order? Why not the nice and true path?
The sheer amount of wrongdoing in this paragraph. Greek philosophy notoriously said that rape and murder is natural. And you cannot have a “nice” and true path those are contradictory terms

[Anonymous No.16108366]

>>16101597
read ecce homo

[Anonymous No.16108382]

>>16104599
>and they espoused many values that we associate with the feminine
embarrassing

[Anonymous No.16108385]

>>16107333
>aristotle's ethics

ROFL DUDE THAT WONT HELP

[今晚打老虎 No.16108387]

>>16108312
look, it sounds cliche, but it is true. also something something Schopenhauer.
we feel good when we are moving towards a goal. we dont even feel that good when we attain it though. the goal can be defined by you. thats why people feel good when theyve finally grinded to level 99 (and then it suddenly becomes, well what the fuck now, being level 99 is boring).
it aint easy to make progress in real life. its rarely linear, there oftentimes isnt positive feedback informing you whether you are on the right track, and more often than not, you can feel like you did all the right things and somehow, someway, things just didnt work out.
the gym is one of the few domains in life where, yes, you put in the time, you put in the work, and boom, you get progress. definite, quantifiable, measurable progress, that is linear (linear at first).

also
>this is why i lift
DONT BAN ME TRANNY JANNIE

[Anonymous No.16108388]

>>16107502
I completely agree.

[Anonymous No.16108406]

>>16108388
I don't. Left brain says you're a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.16108732]

>>16108406
a fitting comment from someone who only thinks with only half a brain

[Anonymous No.16108980]

>>16101743
butterfly thank you for contributing nothing to this thread, you rancid hedonistic shitposter.

[Anonymous No.16109005]

>>16104809
You came here more often before corona tho.

[Anonymous No.16109033]

>>16101617
Your 21?

>>16104221
Butterfly if you're reading this I will fuck you however you like

>>16104249
Improvement and innovation are hollow without some goal in mind

>>16108345
"Greek philosophy" is not monolithic, nor is it good and true for the most part.

[Anonymous No.16109809]

>>16101597
Learn a language where the actual word for the feeling of happiness is more appealing, and you will have a greater understanding of what it means to be happy, even if it is because you start to know less relatively. It would be a very happy thing to have a language capable of expressing the happiness.

[Anonymous No.16109902]

>>16108203
Not really. The stated aim of multiple philosophies, like Stoicism and Aristotelianism, was to live a virtuous life. The aim is to be a human with a fully developed excellence of character rather than live a life determined by pleasure seeking and pain avoidance. If every school agreed with the Epicureans, they wouldn't have disputed like they did.

[Anonymous No.16110834]

>>16102390
THIS.