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How does he fit into the Christian mythos?
is he simply a believer or is his on the level of a prophet or even a reincarnation of The Father himself?

>> No.16097694

>>16097658
He's the English King David.

>> No.16097822

>>16097658
>How does he fit into the Christian mythos
Local folklore integrated into the insane cult. Same as the "christian" holidays

>> No.16097919

>>16097658
King Arthur embodies the transition from the pagan to the Christian, and the integration of the former by the latter

>> No.16098019

>>16097658
He started as a perhaps semi-historical Briton hero who defeated a Saxon army. The developed mythos, exemplified by Mallory, has him as a chivalric kingly ideal. Most of the legends don't involve him doing typical knightly activities, he is a military commander and a king who holds court. But despite being almost ideal, he still falls into sin, namely siring Mordred through incest, and he is still a doomed mortal. Arthur is a romantic hero, not a prophet.

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16098272

Quest for the Grail, friends.

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16098500

>>16098272
is this a beautiful maiden or a handsome lad?

>> No.16099018

What books are canon for King Arthur?

>>16097694
Try Henry VIII

>> No.16099096

>>16098019
Sorry for my lack of familiarity, but isn't his incest with Mordred through trickery? Not that it wouldn't be sin, but that it'd paint the fall of Arthur differently: that he fell to the wiles of evil, rather than sinning deliberately.

And to talk of Guinevere and Lancelot, they're also pure characters (Lancelot the greatest knight before his son) who fall to sin, though they sire Galahad, who goes on to complete the quest for the Holy Grail. Galahad leads a "perfect" and almost robotic life (from the single time I read his story), and ascends to Heaven or whatever realm the Holy Grail is in without dying -- much like the way some of the OT prophets reached Heaven, and as Jesus does post-resurrection.

If I remember right, the other knight who accompanies Galahad is pure enough to witness the Grail (or maybe just the radiance of it?), but too simple to ascend with it, and so is stationed as its guard. I hope I'm not butchering this all too much from my single reading of these stories.

>>16098272
>>16098500
>The Damsel of the Sanct Grael
My bet is the former modelled after the latter.

>> No.16099423

>>16097694
Fpbp
They are fundamentally the same archetype.

>> No.16099521

>>16097658
It depends on who wrote the story. For the anglo, Arthur is a political figure whereas the french made him more like an earthly ideal (like Gauvain in the perfect earthly knigth and the Sun of knighood but cannot see the heavenly Grail). The britons see him as Chthulu (not dead and waking up one day) and described Merlin as a failed Antichrist (though historically he's a souvenir of a Druid named Myrdwwin). In all versions, Arthur is converting people to the True Religion, despite his relatives being inspired by older characters, his wife and Sister being fairies, Calogrenant being an ogre and Gauvain some Sun god in lost stories. We can only guess what the originals told and how much was added.

>> No.16100200

>>16099521
Do you have any material on the earlier, pre-Christian incarnations of the Arthurian cast?