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Anonymous Sun Aug 9 22:35:13 2020 No.16093365 [Reply] [Original]

Is Stoicism just watered down Buddhism for the west?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 9 22:35:54 2020 No.16093369 no, it's the buddhism OF the west

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 9 22:41:09 2020 No.16093411 It's buddhism without the additional fairytales to convince the hoi polloi to play along

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 9 22:43:08 2020 No.16093430 No, buddhism has the pretension of ancient wisdom, stoicism doesn't make this claim.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 9 22:58:55 2020 No.16093553 File: 323 KB, 1018x1664, The-Gnostic-Cosmos.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16093365 >is gnosticism just watered down buddhism for the west yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 9 23:02:52 2020 No.16093590 >>16093365 No.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 9 23:17:24 2020 No.16093691 Where do I start with the stoics?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 9 23:28:42 2020 No.16093787 >>16093411 Buddhism without the power of allegory or storytelling, the two most powerful and useful tools literally known to man? sounds cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 00:11:43 2020 No.16094064 >>16093369 Do you think they are that exchangeable? >>16093787 Based

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 02:24:08 2020 No.16094786 >>16093365 I think I've heard the BBC radio show, In Our Time, describe Stoicism as "Cynicism for the shy." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p003k9fs It's around at the 9-10 minute mark.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:00:11 2020 No.16095263 >>16093691 Aurelius, Epictetus, Seneca

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:06:54 2020 No.16095281 >>16093365 >just watered down Buddhism Stoicism requires the belief in a God who hands out destinies and controls everything. Basically that we live in the best of all possible words cause God did it. So, no.

Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:23:19 2020 No.16095356

>>16095281
>Stoicism requires the belief in a God who hands out destinies and controls everything.
This is not true, the classical stoics referenced the gods a lot because that was the way back then, nothing about stoicism requires oneself to be a believer of any religion. Be content about the world as it is and strive to better yourself, do not waste your time ok what could have been but aim to make the world as good as can be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:23:42 2020 No.16095360 "Buddhism" had nothing to do with the Buddha and was a much later invention that happened across centuries The idea that the Pyrrhonists, Epicureans and stoics "stole" from Buddhism is nonsensical since Buddhism didn't actually exist yet

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:25:09 2020 No.16095369 >>16093787 I see you dont know much about Greek culture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:29:54 2020 No.16095390 >>16095356 >nothing about stoicism requires oneself to be a believer of any religion. Maybe today, it's just some self help stuff. Back in the day stoicism itself was a form of religion. It is monism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:31:58 2020 No.16095397 cringe, they're very different stop looking at superficial similarities, read more

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:33:02 2020 No.16095400 >>16095390 I don't think the contents of Mediations is even compatible with monism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:35:46 2020 No.16095411 >>16093365 It's gymnosophism without the gym part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:36:12 2020 No.16095416 >>16093365 Stoicism is the perfect wage-slave philosophy.

>>	I Mon Aug 10 05:37:52 2020 No.16095419 >>16093691 damn you are stupid pederast. start with yourself, moron.

>>	I Mon Aug 10 05:39:07 2020 No.16095422 File: 83 KB, 507x720, KFFnS3I.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16093365 it ia another flavour of larpism. someone tells you what to do and what is right. faggot like you cannot figure it out by yourself. very stupid faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 05:41:01 2020 No.16095431 https://discord.gg/NZ8wKq

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 06:00:05 2020 No.16095488 >>16095400 Meditations isn't a lesson on stoicism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 07:49:51 2020 No.16095870 >>16095488 It is the personal notes and reminders for a stoic so he could remain stoic, and yet you claim it's not a lesson on stoicism? Its the most famous and most read stoic work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 08:12:28 2020 No.16095978 >>16093365 read MahaPrajnaParamita-Sastra by Nagarjuna

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 08:15:55 2020 No.16095994 >>16093365 not even westerners overlook the amount of chores

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 08:16:16 2020 No.16095998 >>16095390 Citation please Stoics weren't even a cohesive group

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 08:17:40 2020 No.16096007 >>16093365 No. Stoics don't believe in reincarnation or life after death. When you die your body disintegrates and thats all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 08:23:51 2020 No.16096046 >>16093365 Without all the gay mystical shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 10 08:27:33 2020 No.16096066 >>16093365 Yes

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