/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16089438]

What are some "high-brow" children's books you'd recommend to kids under 12 who are going to be home-schooled soon? I'm trying to compile everything worthwhile but that isn't too overwhelming.

[Anonymous No.16089510]

>>16089438
Redwall series
Narnia
The Hobbit
Watership Down
The Once and Future King

I'm not very good at determining reading levels of books but I think these are what youre looking for. I ordered them more or less from simple to complex

[Anonymous No.16089520]

For literature, or textbooks as well?
I was homeschooled for a year when I was 11, and though I don't remember the exact book I used, my parents had me study formal logic. Most, myself included, won't be able to go far in the subject at that age, but it's best to begin to learn to think that way while your mind is still malleable - same as learning a language.

[Anonymous No.16089527]

>>16089438
Hire some local grad students to tutor your kids through some kind of prep school literature curriculum. You dont have the time or energy or intellectual specialization to teach all subjects to your kids unless they're retarded. A literature tutor, a science and math tutor, and an art or foreign language tutor. Comes out to like $200 a week, dirt cheap high quality personalized education.

[Anonymous No.16089590]

>>16089438
i literally do not understand anything being said in that image, they may as well be speaking a different language. Can someone translate it

[Anonymous No.16089666]

>>16089590
teachers are whining that parents and other family members will be listening in on their virtual classrooms while they are busy indoctrinating their children

[Anonymous No.16089669]

>>16089590
The Nigger is asking
>How can we tell children that pedophilia is okay without their parents overhearing it?

Stephanie is saying that she teaches a subject where such things aren't discussed anyways, and is going to simply do her job and remain apolitical. She thinks that this action of willingly ducking out will protect her, but it is in fact a written omission that she is not loyal enough to the system. She is admitting to not holding the Right Opinions, and as such will be removed. She accurately perceives that proselytizing Liberalism to children is dangerous to her, as if she is overheard promoting these topics to children by their parents she will lose her job when the parents cause a fuss with the school's administration. She also, accurately, understands that you cannot ever have a means of accessing children unless you physically remove them from their parents' care (this is the purpose of Public School, to remove the children from access to their parents).

Kate, meanwhile, actively perceives what the nigger and Stephanie are saying, but misunderstands Stephanie's position. Kate accurately assesses that teachers are trying to teach her children harmful behavior (because they are), and that the ultimate arbiters of all factors of a child's life are, and indeed must be, the parents. What Kate does not percieve is that the system is, from the ground up, about teaching these harmful behaviors to children and that the reading and writing (implicit tools for the acquisition and maintenance of social and economic status) are the carrot on the stick. Kate does not understand that in return for letting her children be converted to Liberalism, they will be taught to read and write, and instead thinks that the evangelizing of Liberalism is some distortion to a system intended to teach her children to read and write.

[Anonymous No.16089684]

>>16089590
>won’t this heightened level of transparency have an impact on diversity and inclusivity initiatives? Parents don’t make a fuss when the school board signs off on their behalf for these things and attaches vague, politically correct buzzwords to them. But if a parent or sibling actually overhears us preaching white guilt or encouraging kids to explore their gender rather than their sex, won’t there be some push back?

>yes, luckily i’m a science teacher and it rarely comes up. I wouldn’t risk my livelihood pissing off a bunch of concerned parents (who must be crazy to want us to educate their kids but not correct their morals).

>Up yours, there’s absolutely no reason a teacher should be instructing my kids in anything I don’t know about. Your job is not to indoctrinate my children with flavor-of-the-month dogma but rather to teach them to read and do math. I can instruct my children in the difference between wrong and right just fine.

[Anonymous No.16089746]

>>16089666
It’s funny because on first reading I naturally though he meant “safe space” for children. But he doesn’t, he means a safe space for himself. He’s been taught that he has an inalienable right to a safe space even if it’s in a room with the children of the people that pay him.

[Anonymous No.16089747]

i'm gonna be homeschooling a preschooler and 2nd grader here pretty soon. pretty nervous about it, but at least the kids seem excited.

[Anonymous No.16090178]

>>16089438
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
Through the Looking Glass

[Anonymous No.16090190]

>>16089510
>Redwall series
Particularly for younger kids. Just make sure they don't turn into furries; probably get them on some other books before they hit puberty and start thinking about all the "sexy rats" they want to fuck.

[Anonymous No.16090594]

>>16089438

Well done.

>>16089669
There are books out there for homeschooling... Guide to a classical education or someothing. Honestly I'd just focus on reading and writing, then around age 5 you could probably start teaching a second language, math, etc. Don't fall into the trap that home schooling needs to mimic public schooling. The latter is designed to create monocultured Wageslaves.

[Anonymous No.16090728]

>>16089438
the well trained mind:a guide to classical education at home.

ive seen that book recommend here before. Also, if you want good books for very young children buy older stuff. the newer stuff has all the same shitty flat art that does not inspire their imaginations

[Anonymous No.16090735]

>>16089438
The Moomin books are pretty great, anon. They deal with serious themes and aren't overly childish.

[Anonymous No.16090741]

You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.16090745]

the giver

[Anonymous No.16090790]

>>16089684
>Up yours, there’s absolutely no reason a teacher should be instructing my kids in anything I don’t know about.
Never understood that argument. Why send them to a school, then, if you, as a parent, know exactly what your child ought to learn? Are you, by virtue of being a parent, qualified to teach your child anything other than being a parent? Why would you assume that you are not indoctrinating your child in something else? Wouldn't it be better to teach them critical thinking and autonomy?

Shit teachers, shit parents, shit children.

[Anonymous No.16090801]

>>16090741
so many german books.

any books on teaching german as a 2nd lang to kids?

[Anonymous No.16090808]

The Phantom Tollbooth

[Anonymous No.16090977]

>>16089438
I had a dream that I had a little brother who was born with the body of a 4 year old or something and a developed intellect, and I immediately instructed him to lift and read Augustine

[Anonymous No.16091320]

>>16090790
Because despite what some humblebrag anons say, homeschool has so far not sounded very practical for most people. Homeownership and the costs of raising children are quite a lot for a single income family, and it’s also kind of a raw deal since opting out or public education does not exclude you from paying school taxes (and additional cost that adds to the problems of paying for private education and/or homeschooling).
Also if you arrange your whole life around educating your children there’s going to be tradeoffs that reduce both yours and their quality of life overall. It’s not just a sacrifice in Netflix time.
Not to mention that most homeowners have already arranged their lives around their children's education by buying homes in expensive school districts which change the nature of the offered curriculum after the fact.
People can sling mud about luxury autos and McMansions and irresponsible Americans all they want but it doesn’t subtract from the fact that “you can just opt out” isn’t actually a solution to what’s wrong with public education.
Mind you, the people advocating for a trans-positive racially-conscious elementary education are the same people who have been snarking at brainwashing via the Pledge of Allegiance for years and screeching about the alleged White Nationalist indoctrination in education at all levels.
They’ve skated right past the question of whether subjects of questionable academic value are necessary at all and are just changing the flavor of indoctrination to suit their pet causes.
All of this against the backdrop of an educational system that reaches new lows in test scores all the time.

So basically, many people don’t feel that values and morals shouldn’t be dictated by their local school district, who should just confine themselves to academic subjects.

[Anonymous No.16091389]

>>16090790
>i never understood why a parent wouldn’t want to pay good money to spend an hour every night making sure their son knows that he’s not a bad person and is, in fact, a boy

[Anonymous No.16091472]

>>16089669
His name is Matthew.

[Anonymous No.16091503]

>>16090741
>>16089438
Add Italo Calvino's The Baron in the Trees

[Anonymous No.16091511]

>>16090790
>Why would you assume that you are not indoctrinating your child in something else?
You can't NOT indoctrinate your children. That's how childhood works. Children are INCREDIBLY malleable at that age precisely because they are supposed to be indoctrinated.

>critical thinking and autonomy
are total fucking memes. You lack both for 95-99% of things in your life, both in a meaningful sense and in an actual intellectual sense. You have no choice but to pay taxes, and when was the last time you thought about the precise chemical compounds in your shampoo?

All this is, is a parent disagreeing with the indoctrination their kid would receive at a public school, and instead wanting it to be the indoctrination they'd receive at home, and being too chickenshit to say that openly. This line usually comes from Evangelical Christians who are aligned 99.99% with the #WOKE crowd's ideology and morals, they just want people on TV to mention Jesus more.

[Anonymous No.16091521]

>>16091472
He's a footsoldier of a regime that wants me dead and my children made into weird eunuchs, I don't give a fuck what his name is.

>>16090594
Did you mix-up your quotes there?

[Anonymous No.16091579]

>>16090790
man, she's a dark day when people think that a total stranger is better equipped to educate a child instead of the child's own parents

[Anonymous No.16091704]

Pancatantra and Aesop's fables

[Anonymous No.16091812]

>>16091521
Yes I did sorry

[Anonymous No.16092787]

Aesops fables
The gift of the magi
Whitefang
War of the worlds

[Anonymous No.16093566]

>>16089438
Stephanie wants your children for indoctrination.

[Anonymous No.16094796]

Depending on how much younger than 12 they are: The Wind In The Willows. Or maybe some Ray Bradbury (Martian Chronicles, Dandelion Wine).

[Anonymous No.16094821]

>>16089746
>even if it’s in a room with the children of the people that pay him.

Unemployed single mothers usually don't pay much in the way of taxes.

[Anonymous No.16094882]

>>16089669
Schizo

[Anonymous No.16096349]

>>16089438
They are rare. Look at Michae Ende, especially the neverending story (the movies include about 30% of the books and have a different spin) and Momo. They should be read as a child, a teenager and as an adult. Each time is going to be different and one is going to understand more about the story and getting what the author is trying to tell the reader. It's still worth reading them as an adult. Ende realised some great truths/faults in his society and was capable of writing it down in a suitable way for children which is a great talent.
Most children books and movies lack that aspect: being interesting to adults. I think that is one of the reasons why most adults can enjoy (the better) Studio Ghibli movies whilst being bored by let's finding Nemo.
I would put Narnia to high-brow as well, not Redwall and the Hobbit only in the greater context of his middle-earth saga.
Nonetheless all are great children books.

[Anonymous No.16096369]

>>16089438
I read H.G. Wells when I was 12, loved the Time Machine and Island of Dr. M

[Anonymous No.16097536]

Hamilton's Mythology
the Little Prince. they can read it in translation and then use the original to learn French.

[Anonymous No.16097551]

>>16089438
Pullman's "His Dark Materials" is pretty good tbqh. inb4 anons suggest college level reading because they wish they were prodigies.

[Anonymous No.16097557]

>>16090790
>>16091511
Exactly. Proper education and emotional development are fundamental. Pythagoras and Plato understood this. C.S. Lewis talks about it in the Abolition of Man.

[Anonymous No.16097564]

>>16091579
People already think this. They've thought this ever since women's suffrage. You stick your kids in school and daycare while both parents go off to work, and this happens every day for the entire upbringing of your child, then wonder why you have no relationship with your child.

[Anonymous No.16097588]

>>16089438
The Latin translation of the Iliad

[Anonymous No.16097589]

>>16090790
>Why send them to a school, then, if you, as a parent, know exactly what your child ought to learn?
wagies need daycare for their kids

[Anonymous No.16097634]

>>16089438
Gelsomino in the country of liars - my favourite book from my childhood

[Anonymous No.16097713]

As someone who was homeschooled for elementary school the books that stood out to me were:
Hobbit & LOTR
Narnia
The Secret Garden
Wind in the Willows
Anything by Jack London
Caddie Woodlawn
Canterbury tales
Aesop's Fables
I read an assload of classics, and a lot of historical picture books as well. My mom looked up private school reading lists and used that as a guide. None of that "captain underpants" or "diary of whimpy kid" bullshit.
I recommend looking up a private school you know about or have heard of, and see if they have a literature list on the site, they normally do.
pic related

[Anonymous No.16097718]

>>16090741
>Aesop's Fables is a good primer for logic processes
JFL @ believing this.

[Anonymous No.16097740]

>>16097713
Okay nobody cares about your elitism regarding literal children's books lol
Too bad your mom didn’t do a better job
>hurr durr i didn’t read that lowbrow shit, just The Boxcar Kids and Beverly Cleary

[Anonymous No.16097760]

>>16097740
Elitism indicates recognition of quality, and "elitism regarding children's books" is how one furnishes the mind of a child with the proper tools for critical thought. I'm sorry your mom didn't love you enough to do that

[Anonymous No.16097766]

>>16097713
>filtered by Captain Underpants
It's a brutal critique of a public school system that robs gifted children of their creativity and independence. A home schooled autist like you wouldn't get that.

[Anonymous No.16097781]

>>16097713
>Canterbury Tales
You lying faggot no wonder your parents were forced to pull you out of school in order to save your life

[Anonymous No.16097786]

>>16097713
Based. Do you have a full list I can look up somewhere, or any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.16097788]

>>16089510
>The Hobbit
Totally agree on this. Read The Hobbit when I was about ten or eleven. Very good book, I entirely devoured it.

[Anonymous No.16097797]

>>16097786
>does anyone know where I can get a list of popular children’s classics?
Is google down?

[Anonymous No.16097831]

>>16097797
I thought it was pretty clear that I was asking for the full list he cited, or to know which private school's list he was using so I could find it myself.

Or are you just mad because your parents didn't love you enough and dumped you off at public school?

[Anonymous No.16097857]

>>16097831
I will candidly admit that I did not read Ben Hur in elementary school, yes

[Anonymous No.16097894]

>>16097831
https://imgur.com/a/dYMmR2M
Here's the full list so that I don't blow up the thread.

[Anonymous No.16097902]

>>16097857
Neither did I, and I am saddened by that. I do not wish my children to have the same as I did.

>>16097894
Thank you kindly.

[Anonymous No.16097929]

>>16097902
You are very welcome, and good luck. As unfortunate as the corona situation is, I'm glad that people are getting into homeschooling.

[Anonymous No.16097955]

Teachers are always these horrific underachievers who struggled their way through Calc 1 if their God forsaken school even made them take it for their "degree".

I hate teachers even more than I hate bureaucrats

[Anonymous No.16097971]

>>16097955
Education programs pretty consistently have the lowest SAT scores and highest graduating GPAs.
Who knows, maybe they get really smart in those 4 years.

Attached is a book I would make part of any elementary education, for no particular reason

[Anonymous No.16098012]

>>16097971
Consider the fact that the high graduating GPAs come entirely from incredibly braindead coursework.

[Anonymous No.16098373]

>>16090808
Phantom Tollboth
The Hobbit

[Anonymous No.16098418]

>>16097894
is there a .csv for this?

[Anonymous No.16098474]

>>16097713
>bragging about being literate as a child
Do Americans really? I guess it’s not the education system since you were homeschooled. It’s just Americans

[Anonymous No.16098507]

>>16089527
based idea, create your own noble education.

[Anonymous No.16098544]

>>16097557
yes, but >proper education
is not public school. Honestly it's a problem. if you opt out you fuck up your kid's social life, and private schools today also are a shit show, and in a way always were, just a different brand.

[Anonymous No.16098570]

>>16098544
>not public school.
I loathed the slow kids who brought down the speed of the curriculum by needing explanations again and again.

[Anonymous No.16098620]

>>16089510
>recommending redwall
based furry indoctrination

[Anonymous No.16098649]

>>16089527
fuck i wish i had that

[Anonymous No.16100078]

>>16089438
Seems like nobody did mentioned Jules Verne so far so I have to do this now. Seams Ideal for a child f around 10 years. also have so recommend the Hobbit. As for non-fiction propably only some stuff about animals vulcanos, dinosaurs, planes , cars all that sort of stuff.

[Anonymous No.16100239]

>>16089438
For homeschooled kids I recommend euthanasia
t. homeschooled kid

[Anonymous No.16100278]

> 20k leagues, verne

[Anonymous No.16100465]

>>16100239
What kind of homeschooling? The kind that's ultra-religious, the kind where your parents let you do whatever and don't give a shit, or the classical kind?

[Anonymous No.16100692]

>Find books that fit the criteria my lil brother would love
>He refuses to read and goes back to the computer
I just wanted to read with you, bro...

[Anonymous No.16100703]

>>16089438
Why does that last post have likes and it also just proves how anyone that uses twitter is mentally ill like you OP faggot who should kill himself

[Anonymous No.16100862]

check out https://mereorthodoxy.com/cats-sixty-foot-whales-reflections-childrens-books/ it has a list at the bottom but the article is good. https://materamabilis.org/ma/prep/pre-k/ may also be useful

[Anonymous No.16100870]

>>16100703
You sound like you probably say dumb shit like “teachers are heroes!”

[Anonymous No.16100883]

>>16090190
Lmao

[Anonymous No.16100935]

>>16089438
His Dark Materials
Watership Down
The Hobbit/LoTR
The Giver series
>>16100692
giving a child a smartphone, ipad/tablet, or video games is literally child abuse. No one under 23 should have access to them.

[Anonymous No.16101033]

>>16100935
Ok virgin