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Doesn't the conclusion to Better Never To Have Been, and the anti-natalist position in general, necessitate not only the voluntary extinction of each human being individually (i.e. each person deciding not to procreate), but also the destruction of everything potentially conducive to bringing about future consciousness?

Since human beings evolved from lower sentient life forms lacking consciousness, and since eradicating conscious human beings still leaves a planet and universe capable of generating future life forms which evolve to possess consciousness, then surely the anti-natalist policy must adopt some kind of scorched earth tactic whereby even an environment capable of allowing non-conscious beings to evolve into conscious beings must also be eradicated considering that by not doing so we are still in some sense allowing conscious beings to be born with our permission (and without theirs)? Or does voluntary extinction by conscious beings suffice to meet the anti-natalist ideal, provided that enough anti-natalist propaganda is left behind us to encourage potential future conscious life forms from opting to do the same, like an abandoned city which, centuries after its citizens have fled, is discovered by a new group of conscious beings who find the place littered with propaganda leaflets, covered in anti-natalist graffiti, and so on?

>> No.16084185

>>16084165
Some of you niggas are stuck in a fucking loop like my first java script

>> No.16084192

>>16084165
nice essay bro

>> No.16084208
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>>16084165
>denies choice of life or death
>assumes a utilitarian-like ethical view and has no response to egoism
>ignores any chance of a future utopia or blissful afterlife that outweighs past suffering
>subjectively claims that life is inherently more bad than good, though this cannot be proved
>is hardly a problem, since anti-natalists do not value non-existence enough to kill themselves and prevent 40+ more years of suffering
yeah, I’m thinking it’s cringe

>> No.16084454

>>16084165
If you are white, I encourage you to continue your current train of thought.
If you are not white, snap out of it and realize anti-natalism is poison for the mind. Have sex, find love, and have 3+ kids.

>> No.16085233

Anti-natalism isn’t a serious philosophy, it’s more of a mental exercise that tests your rationality.

>> No.16085258

>>16084454
This but opposite of what you said

>> No.16085351

>>16085233
This

It's basically the train test

>> No.16085459

>>16085258
I really don't know. I have a lot of respect for the ancient whites (the writers of Ancient Greece and Rome), and the contributions of white people to physics, a body of work I consider to be the white race's crowning achievement.
But then I sat down to study the white people of today. I found them disgusting. The amount of self-hate I see among whites today, coupled with their blatant denial of their impending existential crisis, is revolting. I remember seeing a photo of a group of whites, on their knees, washing the feet of blacks while being filmed (in some BLM protest). Can these people really be the descendants of Pericles and Augustus?
And it's more than some people at a protest. Look at the rampant depression and drug use in American and European whites. Look at the rise of the strange nihilistic hedonism that has taken root in that culture. Look at the decline in white birthrates and white spirituality. What happened to these people?

>> No.16085618

look into efilism

>> No.16085629

>>16085459
capitalism

>> No.16085671

>>16085629
But you don't see this in Hispanic/Latinos, or in Asians. Why are whites so badly affected by capitalism?

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>>16084454
>If you are white, I encourage you to continue your current train of thought. If you are not white, snap out of it and realize anti-natalism is poison for the mind. Have sex, find love, and have 3+ kids.

>> No.16085809

>>16085671
late stage decadence. hispanics and asians are now where whites were 100 years ago. in time they too will be the same, probably faster given the rapid acceleration we've been experiencing