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>Dopamine receptors drained because discord, twitter, porn and youtube
>struggling to keep attention to a single page of a book
>lazy as fuck and addicted to social media (((consumerism)))

this has unironically been my life for the past 2 fucking years, help me my anons

>> No.16078815

Read stuff that excites you instead of lame lit charts.

>> No.16078830

>>16078806
Read a book that deals with just this, that should grab your attention at least

>> No.16078831

>>16078806
>Dopamine receptors drained because discord, twitter, porn and youtube
Be honest you have to also add /lit/ there and video games if you play them

>> No.16078848

cold turkey it all. if you continue to use high stimula media, then anything below that level will seem bland and boring. Focus on life - listen to your surroundings, observe your surroundings, focus on the taste of your food instead of stuffing yourself while watching some video from your recom feed, become sensitive to your skin's sensations like water during a shower or how your bed feels when you go to sleep. Then try reading.
Additional steps - use an Internet cafe if you can, get a phone that can't use the Internet, restrict the usage of music while doing stuff. Generally speaking - focus on 1 stimulus at a time.

>> No.16078867

>>16078848
>focus on one thing at a time
>he isn't streaming two netflix shows at once while watching a youtube video and learning a language with an app on his smartphone
How do you even accomplish anything with your day

>> No.16078870

>>16078830
What would you recommend

>> No.16078871

>>16078848
Another way I like to put it is this - imagine it's 1956. Only use the media that was around then. Don't overdo them, of course - don't become your typical blue-collar couch potato who's addicted to some sitcom to drown out the fact that he's an existential failure.

>> No.16078877

>>16078867
I take things slow. I'm not a business type of guy that's high on coke all the time and accomplishes more in a day than a factory worker does in a month. Also, having a written-out plan for the day and for the week works.

>> No.16078903

Practice meditation. Start reading last thing before sleep, no electronic media after you start reading. Reward reading by occasionally having a drink while you do it.

>> No.16078912

>>16078871
Why 1956? So oddly specific lol

>> No.16078917

Dopamine fast.
Go somewhere without your phone.

>> No.16078932

>>16078912
I've somewhat romanticized that period in my brain to be the pinnacle of the American Dream. I know it's not historically or morally accurate, but that's just how it feels to me. This could be applied to any date from 1925 to 1990.

>> No.16078941

I personally never had this kind of problem. Am I weird? I can easily surf the web, watch some insightful video on youtube, play an occasional game and even watch porn sometimes and still can devote a significant amount of time to reading and things of that nature

>> No.16078942

>>16078806
Nothing matters
Read one short section from The Book of Disquiet every day.

>> No.16078945

>>16078932
Well if you are a heterosexual white man, sure. I bet you wank over Rhodesia as well

>> No.16078955

>>16078945
Dilate.

>> No.16078959

>>16078955
I'll dilate your nostril with my cock

>> No.16078978

>>16078806
I tried quitting smoking for 3 years and failed like 100000 times and what ended up working was realizing how much cigarettes were stealing my life away without my permission, I got so fucking pissed that I was able to quit them cold turkey

Think about how much of your life is being stolen without your permission anon, you have free will even though we convince ourselves we dont most of the time

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>>16078945
>tfw ywn be a 1950s cryptofaggot topping everyone in your leather bar and then going to your home and dominating your wife while being on 1 blue-collar salary

>> No.16078992

>>16078988
I bet people who post these stuff arent even white

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>>16078992
cope harder, low t mutt.

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>>16078806
>using discord and twitter
>pepe with that filename
I can't believe I have to share a board with you niggers

>> No.16079062

>>16078831
Why does /lit/ give such a dopamine boost. I don't get it, but I waste so much time here.

>> No.16079073

>>16078870
Digital Minimalism

>> No.16079089

>>16079062
It's a community. Just like any other group of people. The (You)s, the "Share your x" posts, the arguments, the insults - all of it. It's the 21st century's remedy for social disability. It's a perfect society, in a way - completely anonymous, an thus allowing for full expression. Full of trends and running jokes, allowing the individual to drown himself in the mob. It's the same shit that your dad does when he goes to grill with his friend on a Saturday evening, except less healthy.

But, even if perfect, it's still a facade. Just like vidya are a facade, a perfect reflection of real life. And when you turn off the PC you realize that, despite being a part of a perfect community, you are completely alone.

>> No.16079101

>>16079002
That's the most feminine male hand I've ever se en. Check your estro bro.

>> No.16079107

>>16079101
Post hand

>> No.16079423

>>16078806
Gay

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>>16079107

>> No.16079453

>>16078806
Well I am not not board with op since I do /sig/ but this seems like a nice thread to ask.

I seem to have a moral problem in seeing the value in other people since I started reading. For you see, there is a thought in the back of my head that reading from important, well established, and elite kind of people is much more valuable than socializing with commoners. Even if you do not know the elite person, having his thoughts inside of you gives you a huge edge so to speak.

And your time is better spent on reading than on socializing. The only exception to this rule seems socializing with quality people who also read. But other than that, it just seems moot, there is no reason to talk to people. Even though these people have women among them.

>> No.16079456

Terrible thread

>> No.16079460

>>16079089
How delightfully nihilistic and doom-pilled. BBL, gonna get shitfaced in a bar and talk about how life is meaningless, pointless, but luckily it'll end some day to complete, but identifiable, strangers. Hopefully I'll die from the 'rona.

>> No.16079481

>>16078806
The sekrit that few'll tell you is that most social media shit can be transfigured into a literary game. I think about the way people write posts and tweet, then go and write some silly sonnets of whatever's on my mind, only to find that I'm now in the mood to read a book

>> No.16079510

>>16078806
Just stop doing those things

>> No.16079515

>>16079436
nice hand bro

>> No.16079530

>>16078959
Lmaoooo

>> No.16079532

>>16079515
Thanks.

>> No.16079533

When you read, leave your phone in your room and go read somewhere else (another room, outside, etc). That's what I started doing and it's helped my focus in general when I do things.

>> No.16079552

>>16079533
This, and if you're going to be around your devices turn the wifi off at least. You could try to meet a certain quota of reading a day with breaks at set intervals.

>> No.16079556

>Dopamine receptors drained because discord, twitter, porn and youtube
Delete most of those apps. Then start reading books. At the beginning you'll read very little and it will be kinda hard, but gradually it's naturally going to start getting easier and funner. The important point is not giving up on it. Also start working out if you haven't already.

That's the basic guide for not being a loser degenerate. It's easier than you think.

>> No.16079559

>>16079002
>>16079101
Imagine his soft, feminine hands jerking you off

>> No.16079573

>>16079559
Post hands, nigga.

>> No.16079614

>Dopamine receptors drained because discord, twitter, porn and youtube
Delete most of those apps. Using them way less is the most chad thing to do but going cold turkey at least for a while is probably what's better for you. Then start reading books. At the beginning you'll read very little and it will be kinda hard, but gradually it's naturally going to start getting easier and funner. The important point is not giving up on it. Try reading stuff that truely interests you. Also start working out if you haven't already.

That's the basic guide for not being a loser. It's easier than you think.

>> No.16080025

/lit/ - hands

>> No.16080163

>>16078848
>using stimula as a plural of stimulus
based pseud

>> No.16080703

>>16078942
I'm reading that book for over five years now. I've read many other books in the meantime, but every other month I come back to Pessoa for a paragraph or two.

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guys i am literally op except its 4chan that has fried my dopamine receptors. i am 18 and been here 4 years and i actually cant do anything without getting tired and wanting to go back on here. its not only a surrogate for socialization i dont get (i ghost all my friends, even irl), i can space out on here and not expend any mental energy. when i do pretty much anything else i get exhausted, uni homework or routine housework or vidya just feels like a chore.

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I was in the same boat, anon. Start reading epubs on your phone. That's what helped my screen-addicted brain become hooked on reading. And you can pirate any book you want to read.
Read what genuinely interests you, not the boring shit proscribed by /lit/.
Remember 'motivation' is worse than useless; positive change only happens through forming of habits, and that takes time and pressure. If you read one book this year, that's a 100% improvement on last year. Give yourself credit for success, don't beat yourself up over failures.
I'm still a screen-addicted porn addict but I've read 50 books so far this year.

>> No.16082435

>>16082137
>(i ghost all my friends, even irl

This is going to bite you in the ass so fucking hard in your 20's. Enjoy crippling Depression and loneliness faggot

>> No.16082489

>>16078806
SCREENS OFF

>> No.16082547

>>16082435
why are you so mad? are you not able to make friends? i am already lonely and depressed, my friends didnt really make it any better. it sucked being around normalgroids you didnt have much in common with that love blm and give you trash opinions that arent based on the western canon. i can always make more friends, its easy and im going to college, but whats the point? i dont like hearing their shitty opinions or shitty stories about their normalgroid life, i just want a gf. most people never talk to their hs/college friends anyway once they get jobs and move to the suburbs

>> No.16082552

>>16082547
You're delusional

>> No.16082568

>>16082552
how am i delusional? ive hung with the normalfags and its not all its made up to be. you wont find a friend like achilles and patroclus in the year of our lord 2020. people move too much and are exposed to so much people and things relationshits become volatile. they only put on a facade of interest to look good

>> No.16082583

>>16082568
>friends
> achilles and patroclus

>> No.16082586

>>16078806
you’re probably just freaking out. it sounds to me that you are doing exactly what you want to do

>> No.16082601

>>16082568
I too was an edgy 18 year old once. In a few years you'll remember this conversation and cringe at yourself

>> No.16082611

>>16082583
you arent one of the people who think theyre lovers, are you?
>>16082601
bro i just dont like hanging out with people. all i want is a gf.

>> No.16082615

>>16082568
this has to be some very elaborate bait. I refuse to accept the fact that someone is this gay

>> No.16082620

>>16082547
Thing is, the gfs hide among the normalgroids

>> No.16082622

>>16082611
>all i want is a gf.

95% of girls are even more normie than normie dudes, you need to be extremely lucky my guy

>> No.16082623

>>16078870
Napoleon Hill

>> No.16082639

>>16082611
>you arent one of the people who think theyre lovers, are you?
I hate it but I think there's a good chance that that was the intent

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>>16082615
fuck you faggot
>>16082620
>>16082622
do i need friends to get a gf tho? i might make some in college just for references and networking, but i really prefer being by myself, or at least not with normalslime

>> No.16082663

>>16082137
Ask parents for help, have them block 4chinz through the router or some shit. Better that than to end up like me, 29 year old NEET basically just waiting to die

>> No.16082666

>>16082650
It will be hard to get gf without friends / socializing because gfs use smokescreens of normals to ward off rapists who cant vibe. Im not saying you're a rapist but it's just how women think.

>> No.16082676

>>16082650
You're fucking retarded holy shit ahahahah

>> No.16082678

>>16078806
Happened to me too, but i just got bored from it. Reading and porn are the only things that can a entertain me, although i forbide myself from watching porn.

>>16078831
Also this, don't fool yourself.

>help me anons
Start reading short stories, you can finish one in one sitting so it's still relativelly fast rewarding.

>> No.16082685

>>16082666
shit man i hate it when they do that. i already can barely talk to women but when they bring in friends and i have to play catch up with them its impossible
>>16082676
why lol

>> No.16082753

>>16079453
>The only exception to this rule seems socializing with quality people who also read. But other than that, it just seems moot, there is no reason to talk to people. Even though these people have women among them.

I used to be like that. Lived a fulfilling life for over 30 years, then one day it wasn't enough...

Then I realized how fucking hard is to make friends with "normal" people when you are approaching your 40s.

I hope that doesn't happen to you.

>> No.16082795

>>16082547
>i just want a gf
Spoilers: with that attitude you won't.

>> No.16082801

>>16082795
aight what attitude do i need to have? i know i need to act like i dont care

>> No.16082808

>>16082568
>you wont find a friend like achilles and patroclus in the year of our lord 2020

Ok. You are and edgelord. Enjoy your (You)s.

>> No.16082817

>>16082808
how does it make me an edgelord to want a good friend instead of some stupid faggot that dont give a shit?

>> No.16082820

>>16082663
There's still hope. Believe me.

>> No.16082830

Didn't have this issue until this bloody quarantine, now I'm definitely addicted to all this bullshit.
It's hard, anons.

>> No.16082863

>>16082817
You write like an edgy teen who believes that he knows everything. You don't, little shit. Live life a little. Hopefully you will grow as a person.
If you don't. In the future I see you a as 30 years old incel hating women on the internet...

>> No.16082877

>>16082830
Same for me. This quarantine ruined me. I can't stand being with this board filled with incels and vocels that are so frustrated with life...

This place it's making me bitter.

>> No.16082887

>>16082863
wow why are you so mad? have you been ghosted? i see your seething as a testament to what i have said

>> No.16082904

>>16082887
I hope you're young, you have time to grow up. Good luck.

>> No.16082925

>>16082685
Do you ghost them on purpose? I do the same shit but it's like im incapable of getting close to people.

>> No.16082939

>>16082666
depends how you meet them. if you go to a club, concert or bar and dance with somebody or approach them then you bypass all that so-called social screening. there are different types of girls too anyways, they aren’t all scared to meet somebody new

>> No.16082946

>>16082925
depends. i ghost online friends because online friendships are a meme. i ghost irl friends because i dont really like getting close to people because it doesnt give me space. partly because you are always disposable and never really close, partly because things you dont like about them are exaggerated, and partly because i dont like being just a member of a larger group or whatever

>> No.16082960

>>16079573
I lost them in the war

>> No.16082973

I also have this problem, OP, but I find the right topic helps me to write and stay focused. For me, I love writing comedy works. Parodies mostly.

>> No.16082978

>>16078955
why do gay men resent based trannies so much? angry they get all the straight male attention that flaming bottom faggots cant get? heh

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>>16082650
>i really prefer being by myself, or at least not with normalslime
So you want a tomboy gf.

>> No.16082996

>>16082980
>tomboy gf
I might.

>> No.16083012

>>16078848
>focus on the taste of your food instead of stuffing yourself while watching some video from your recom feed
>restrict the usage of music while doing stuff
Please delete, these hit way too close

>> No.16083013

>>16079453
The primary reason for socializing isn't to gain any sort of knowledge. This is key. Socializing fufills a man's needs of expression, emotional connection, etc.

To think all a friend has to offer is their keen intellect is to be mistaken. I would say that many don't only value a person for this reason but for the fact that they have formed a bond with them, a qualitatively indefinite connection with another being.

>> No.16083033

>>16078806
Just 2?

>> No.16083039

>>16083013
This.

Good Lord I was thinking this place was filled to the brim with social retards.

>> No.16083046

>>16078941
Can you please kill yourself you massive faggot?

>> No.16083066

I know its hard but first you need to quit 4chan forever if you ever want to turn your life around. Leave and dont come back.

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Try this

>> No.16083083

>>16082547
Seek true friends that you would love to talk to. Yeah, well no shit, but how??
I don't know, but what I think is that being as completely authentic as you possibly can (without being completely societally unacceptable). If you aren't being authentic, it is highly unlikely that you will attract the friends you want, because the friends you want aren't seeing YOU, and the friends you may attract may like "you" just for the way you present yourself, while not resonating with you on a deep level.

If you go to college, just put yourself out there; go to clubs that interest you. Even if none do, pick one and speak to people, you might find people you resonate with.

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>>16083013
>mfw my mom is always criticizing the friends me and my sister make because we aren’t “learning anything from them.”

Idk why she continues to spout this nonsense as if we are still 7-year-olds who seek her approval for guidance, especially when it’s abundantly clear that she has plenty of friends who aren’t of any intellectual use to her (or anyone else for that matter). I guess mom’s just gonna meme.

>> No.16083110

>>16083101
there's definitely such a thing as bad influence friends, and parents are wise to be watchdogs for that imo. most of my more retarded habits came from friends.

>> No.16083121

>Dopamine receptors drained because discord, twitter, porn and youtube

As someone who abused MDMA heavily in his early 20s and is now living fine, you need to shut up with these dumbass excuses. Your brain isn’t the problem, your piss poor personality is. That’s all your fault.

>> No.16083179

>>16082946
Can relate to that, when I was in school I hated all my friendships, would always think about all the differences and flaws each friend had. but yeah never been a group guy either. Also saw that with coworkers and friends id purposefully avoid being authentic to prevent the friendship being more than an acquaintance :/

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>>16078806
Try modafinil

>> No.16083226

>>16083101
>as if we are still 7-year-olds who seek her approval for guidance
We're on 4chan, isn't this what we do already?

>> No.16083237

>>16083121
This.

t. guy who abused 3 years worth of adderall prescriptions

>> No.16083323

>>16083237
>>16083121
How do you guys get along now a days? Used to do a shit ton or morphine and dxm, just made me hate life now

>> No.16083348

>>16078806
somewhere (((someone))) is vigorously rubbing their hands
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3NVe8m_kB8

>> No.16084199

>>16082650
Fuck, wish I had people who cared about where I was.

>> No.16084221

>>16078806
I literally don't know what the point is in reading. I listen to audio books while I perform another activity, hitting two birds with a stone. You don't have to read, reading a book is a waste of time if you are forcing yourself to do it.

>> No.16085704

>>16082623
which book by him

>> No.16086316

>>16083046
did I touch a nerve there?

>> No.16086366

same here my man. bump

>> No.16086396

Why the fuck are people here so scared of Discord, motherfucker it's a chatroom. Are zoomers who come to 4chan so young that Discord was the first chat they've heard of?
If you're going to cut out social media, start off with this site, it's 100 times worse than anything else. But you can't do that because you're here forever.

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meditate/mindfulness
have a routine
stop watching porn
eat healthy
work out

>> No.16086626

>>16086433
Meditation is useless bullshit. Try something like muscle relaxation which inturn will make you Chad by reducing anxiety.

>> No.16086642

>>16078806
Step away from social media. reddit, twitter, instagram, and yes even 4chan. theres too much bullshit on these apps that you cant possibly consume and if even if you did there isnt any merit in most of it. spend more time outdoors away from computer screens into the company of others, and immerse yourself in a hobby or passion.
dont read shit you dont have any interest in just to say youve read it. stop jerking off so much, stop watching so much porn. you know the answers you just dont want to overcome it because you live an easy life.

>> No.16087120

>>16083216
What do these rankings measure?

>> No.16087323

>>16086626

Most retarded thing I’ve read this week. It’s Sunday so u barely made the cut congrats nigger

>> No.16088331

>>16086626
this

>> No.16088388

>>16083033
based

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>>16086626
That's fine. More for me.

>> No.16088438

>>16078806
>Dopamine receptors drained because discord, twitter, porn and youtube
Youre wrong. Your dopamine receptors aren't drained because of social media, porn, and youtube, they are drained because you choose to use social media, porn, and youtube.
If you really dont have the willpower to stop using these on your own, download the cold turkey blocker. You can then set time limits or straight up block any website across all your browsers. Its free, tho I recommend Pro version. If that doesnt fix your low attention span idk what will

>> No.16088483

>>16082547
>unironically using terms like "normies"
>demanding that people have opinions based on "the western canon," which is a fully absurd way to evaluate people's opinions

This is why you have trouble making friends. Because you have a reductive, arrogant view of the individuality of others, overlooking their true character in the process. And you demand that their thoughts conform to your own biases. which you seem to have picked up from internet elitists who sperg about the western canon like it's the only source of valid thoughts.

>> No.16088508

>>16088483
>who sperg about the western canon like it's the only source of valid thoughts.
yeah, because its better than what normalfaggots do which is get it from hoestagram/twitter posts. you have no idea how annoying it is to have to listen to shitty revelations they come across that is either faulty logic or has been refuted or better articulated by some boomer 2000 years ago. i didnt delete social media just so i can get it from other people.

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>>16082568
Hahaha achilles as a bro sounds based

>> No.16088794

>>16088438
That's not entirely true though since these things are literally made to be addictive. Also, i use cold turkey but sometimes i just disable the extension on the browser and the program does basically nothing.

>> No.16088860

>>16088483
>which you seem to have picked up from internet elitists who sperg about the western canon like it's the only source of valid thoughts.
It mostly is through, if its not Western, its usually too mystical, which I personally see as an inferior feminine mode of thinking.

>> No.16088883

>>16078945
>not being a 1950s straight male who hits up the tea room when night falls
ngmi

>> No.16088936

>discord
I've only ever used discord to talk to my friends back home
Everything I hear about public servers or whatever seems fucking retarded.

>> No.16089391

>>16088438
Use this instead.
https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts

It's extremely simple, free, and editable by the user: just a list of URLs that redirect to nowhere. You can go for a list that bans all social media and porn or just a list that bans all ads and trackers and everything in between.