It's over

[Anonymous No.16061894]

Just finished reading this.
It's over.

[Anonymous No.16061901]

>>16061894
Well done anon
what are you going to read next?

[Anonymous No.16061904]

>>16061894
what's the arguement?

[Anonymous No.16061923]

>>16061904
It's too long for me to type out here.
Read the FT review. https://www.ft.com/content/9ca8cfa8-7351-11ea-ad98-044200cb277f
>>16061901
Probably something on Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.16061938]

>>16061901
>what are you going to read next?
we do choose our fate
our fate chooses us
https://youtu.be/YvRrSd0NdEI?t=129

[Anonymous No.16061946]

>>16061923
>Read the FT review.
paywall but thx tho

[Anonymous No.16061956]

>>16061894
I bet you also buy into the AI meme, lmao.

[Anonymous No.16062099]

western elites made money from china's rise and they will make money from china's fall. both were decided decades before they happened and it was never meant to go any other way. how stupid or delusional does one have to be to think the real world is some movie or video game where it would ever be possible that china could become the top dog just like that? take your head out from your ass and open your eyes chang

i could bet my house, all my fortune, about this. i'm pretty sure you and other wumaos don't have the same conviction because deep inside they know the truth

>>16061956
this

[Anonymous No.16062147]

>>16061894
China was the world’s second largest economy 100 years ago. It is still the world’s second largest economy. Nothing has changed and nothing will change.

[Anonymous No.16062150]

>>16061946

Kishore Mahbubani has long filled a convenient slot on the international conference circuit (when there was such a thing) as the straight-talking Asian fond of speaking unwelcome truths to westerners.

True to form, Has China Won? is certain to antagonise and even outrage American readers. But that is a good thing. For above all, it will force them to confront the unsettling probability that China will this century usurp the US as the world’s hegemon.

In Mahbubani’s telling, written before coronavirus struck, the US ruling classes think their rivalry with China is a rerun of the cold war with the Soviet Union — and they know how that movie ended. It is surely only a matter of time and political gravity before the liberty-loving, free-market superpower sees off the latest uppity communist dictatorship.

Mahbubani picks up on that cold war analogy. But this time, he argues, the roles are reversed: the US is the inflexible, ideological, systemically challenged superpower, while China is the adaptable, pragmatic and strategically smart rival. “America is behaving like the Soviet Union, and China is behaving like America,” he writes.

Like an overzealous proctologist, Mahbubani probes America’s most sensitive parts. In spite of the increasingly bellicose noises coming out of Washington, the US has failed to develop any coherent strategy to deal with a resurgent China, he argues. That is in glaring contrast with the patient strategy of containment articulated by the US diplomat George Kennan in 1946 at the start of the cold war. Mahbubani gives short shrift to America’s marginalised modern-day diplomats: there are, as the former defence secretary Robert Gates observed, more members of military marching bands than US foreign service personnel.

The former Singaporean diplomat adds that US politics has been captured by a short-sighted plutocracy that would not survive long if the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, criminalising bribery of officials abroad, applied at home.

Lacking any strategic brain, the US has become over-reliant on military muscle and entangled in perpetual wars in the Middle East. The US may account for half of global defence spending, but how much use is its military hardware in a software age? US aircraft carriers, which can cost up to $13bn to build, can be easily sunk by one of China’s DF-26 missiles, costing a few hundred thousand dollars.

Most tellingly, the US’s social and economic model has stopped delivering for most of its people. “America is the only developed society where the average income of the bottom 50 per cent of the population has gone down over the past 30 years. In the same period, the Chinese people have experienced the greatest improvement in their standard of living ever seen in Chinese history,” he writes.

[Anonymous No.16062157]

>>16062150

It is in the nature of a polemic to maximise all evidence supporting an argument and minimise everything that contradicts it. So it is with Mahbubani: unsparing on the US’s failings, he glosses over China’s manifest flaws. The Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, in which tens of millions died, merit one sentence. The current unrest in Hong Kong is dismissed as a struggle between the homeless and real estate tycoons.

Mahbubani is as effusive in his praise of China’s leaders as he is damning of their US counterparts. President Xi Jinping’s removal of term limits was necessary to counter factionalism and corruption. His rule delivers three public goods to the world: restraining Chinese nationalism; responding to climate change; and ensuring that China is a status quo power, not a revolutionary one. “There is a very strong potential that Xi Jinping could provide to China the beneficent kind of rule provided by a philosopher king,” he gushes.

In the end, Mahbubani ducks the question his book’s title poses. Despite his criticisms of the US, he recognises its many strengths: an individualistic culture; the best universities in the world; a magnetic attraction for the world’s best and brightest (including 351,000 Chinese students); and its strong institutions — although Donald Trump is working on that.

He concludes that a “geopolitical contest between America and China is both inevitable and avoidable”. Read this book to be provoked, if not convinced.

[Anonymous No.16062168]

>>16061894
They haven't, and likely will never, win the culture war.

[Anonymous No.16062227]

>>16061894
Good, China actually cares about people.

[Anonymous No.16062231]

I detest chinks

[Anonymous No.16062284]

>>16062099
>western elites made money from china's rise and they will make money from china's fall
Bullshit. The West, especially Europe, sold their valuable know-how to China in exchange for market-shares because the elite is greedy and thinks that chinks are stupid. Guess what happens? China uses the know-how to make products better than ours and put the West out of their market again. They will take over the world sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.16062295]

>>16061894
Chinks make money and focused on money only, i grew up around them, their lives are simply minmaxed for grinding money while sacrificing many other aspects.

>>16062099
Also this

[Anonymous No.16062383]

>>16062150
>Like an overzealous proctologist, Mahbubani probes America’s most sensitive parts.

[Anonymous No.16062431]

>>16062284
>Bullshit. The West, especially Europe, sold their valuable know-how to China in exchange for market-shares because the elite is greedy and thinks that chinks are stupid. Guess what happens? China uses the know-how to make products better than ours and put the West out of their market again.

We have been failed and sold-out by western business elites, looking for a short term gain over a long term lose. And their only solution seems to be to flood western countries with niggers which will only make things worse.

[Anonymous No.16062457]

>>16062168
Wearing ripped Jeans and listening to shitty rap music isn't important compared to huge scientific and technological development. Furthermore, you underestimate the size of China - the content they consume is almost from entirely self produced sources. Chinese citizens aren't listening to Kanye West and drinking Starbucks. They do their own thing. China is in its own world and has their entirely self sustaining culture. 20% of the world is Chinese lol

[Anonymous No.16062473]

>>16062457
The other 80% would never stand for chink supremacy

[Anonymous No.16062526]

>>16062473
The other 80% of the world doesn't have that much power against the chinks.

[Anonymous No.16062543]

>>16062284
And when they produce better products you can just forbid them from selling them globally, simple. Either they have to stop retarding the development of their domestic market (save less dollars and spend more) at the expense of their exports which they refuse to do or accept being a bitch to the West in the international system.

>>16062457
They have no cultural exports, America dominates global culture and will continue to do so.

[Anonymous No.16062562]

>>16062526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz4A-WJXLMQ

[Anonymous No.16062564]

>>16062543
>America dominates global culture
And that is the worst part.

[Anonymous No.16062566]

>>16062099
the only card the US has left to play is war. the US economy is FUBAR so unless we go to war soon, china will BTFO the US

[Anonymous No.16062579]

>USA is superior because we have more negro music

[Anonymous No.16062587]

>>16061894
>he needs to read a book on the subject to realize this
fucking pseuds man

[Anonymous No.16062591]

>>16062579
Those who control the spice control the galaxy.

[Anonymous No.16062621]

>>16062099
He says increasingly nervous. You better start learning Mandarin, cletus.

[Anonymous No.16062634]

>>16062168
China is the dominant cultural force in half the world, dude. You have no idea because as a westerner you have zero expoture. But the Asian is dominantes by China and its cultural products. American entertainment already caters heavily to the Chinese market. You just wait til China has a per capita above $20,000 and shit will change.

[Anonymous No.16062665]

>>16062634
>China is the dominant cultural force in half the world, dude
No it isn't. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
>b-b-but muh one belt one road...
You need to actually be able to build roads to have the whole "One Road" part, dude.

>>16062566
The US Economy is entirely fake, so no, war is not the only card the US has left. NOBODY wants to be run by the Chinese, which IS the end result of doing business with China, ESPECIALLY after Covid. This meme about the BASED CCP letting Fashy Goys do their own thing is just that: a meme. The reason Italy got hit so hard by Covid is because Israel and the CCP replaced an entire fucking Italian town and replaced them with chinks to use as slave labor to work in clothing factories.

If you're thinking the BLM riots will result in catastrophic collapse, you're dead wrong (I very much wish you were right, however). We've had like four of these before. Look into "The Great Awakening". Pick one, we've had three or four thus far.

[Anonymous No.16062669]

>>16062634
>skaven supremacy in Altdorf
By Sigmar, no!

[Anonymous No.16062673]

>>16061894
Not literature.

[Anonymous No.16062674]

>>16062634
>Asian is dominantes by China and its cultural products
Japanese anime is more influential than anything coming out of China

>American entertainment already caters heavily to the Chinese market. You just wait til China has a per capita above $20,000 and shit will change.
Letting foreign media become in anyway influential might not be as manageable as you think... spoiler: the US government has an infinite amount of dollars to outbid for any propaganda

[Anonymous No.16062683]

>>16061894
It isn't. Read long term PwC forecasts, not opinion pieces. America is #1 for the next 30 years minimum, either China or a growing Indonesia are 2.

[Anonymous No.16062700]

>>16062683
>Indonesia
>mattering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia#Religion
>Islam (86.70%)
No.

[Anonymous No.16062703]

>>16062669
ratmen dont exist you rabblerouser. the empire is safe as its always been.

[Anonymous No.16062706]

>>16062665
>NOBODY wants to be run by the Chinese, which IS the end result of doing business with China, ESPECIALLY after Covid. This meme about the BASED CCP letting Fashy Goys do their own thing is just that: a meme.
China isn't doing anything different from what America does. There's just one factor - China is beating the Americans at their own game. Americans demand political and economic reforms and strong arm countries into doing so. China is doing the same thing (see Sri Lanka, Pakistan, increasingly Africa) and can do it cheaper, faster and overall better than America. There's no morals in any of the situations. China is too big and too rich. Soon, their rise will put Americans in the shadow. Whether that's a good thing for you is another question and can be answered by where you live. My guess is that Europe is going to benefit as they can play off both sides. Pakistan is going to be fucked as it gets reduced to nothing more than client state.

[Anonymous No.16062719]

>>16062700
It's the 8th largest GDP on the planet as we speak and most of its citizens live in trees or huts. As it continues to industrialised it'll become a major world player. So will India when they sort civic infrastructure out.

[Anonymous No.16062726]

>>16062665
>NOBODY wants to be run by the Chinese, which IS the end result of doing business with China, ESPECIALLY after Covid.

It doesn't matter what people "want" because you have to do business with China. It is too big and important to do otherwise. If that ends with Chinese hegemony, so be it.

[Anonymous No.16062727]

>>16062719
Cont. Chinese economic centres will be underwater shortly afterwards though so swings and roundabouts.

[Anonymous No.16062752]

>>16062526
Famous last words, Chang.

[Anonymous No.16062759]

>>16062473
>"standing" for supremacy

lmao

[Anonymous No.16062802]

>>16062719
That's assuming it can grow continuously at the rates its growing now, and that it can actually take those gains and do anything substantial with them. China, made up of high IQ Han, has to flat out lie to make continuous growth. Indonesians are lower IQ, which is why I pointed out the whole
>Islam
thing, which significantly inhibits their ability to make that growth matter and to continue it.

>>16062726
Correct, which is why China will never surpass the US: You HAVE to do business with the US. Nobody has to do business with China.

[Anonymous No.16062803]

>>16062706
dude, the riots and rebellions aren't going to stop. nobody has been working for nearly a year now and the jobs aren't coming back. the zoomers and millenials had enough of the boomer's shit and aren't going back to work for shit wages and shit benefits. we're already getting stories about tenants literally beheading their landlords because they're trying to extort rent money and evict people even though everyone's out of work. the US economy has no fucking gas left to burn so unless we go to war to distract everybody, even temporarily, we're fucked. china's economy wins in the long run

[Anonymous No.16062808]

>>16062803
was meant for this boomer >>16062665

[Anonymous No.16062812]

>>16062802
There's more to growth than bullshitting and religion. Grow up.

[Anonymous No.16062822]

>>16062706
>china makes cheap plastic crap ergo it's better than america
Irrelevant. That's actually a HUGE liability in comparison to the US. If the Hoover Dam broke tomorrow, it wouldn't dent the US. Everything is fake, so real damage is meaningless. Just pick up the cardboard box and play the shellgame elsewhere. When (not if, when) the Three Gorges Dam breaks, it will be catastrophic to China. Why? Because China's wealth and power is dependent upon physical capital and continuous gains in productivity.

You can't grow forever, unless your growth is funny money.

[Anonymous No.16062824]

>>16061894
Of course not.

They're a soulless tyrannical shitfest.
They just lobotomized their largest functioning international economic center, and their economy has been dangling on the edge of collapse for years at the whim of cheetoh chief.
Their human interpersonal culture is spiteful and ignorant and shallow.

They are merely pretending to be human.

[Anonymous No.16062836]

All of these amerifats in denial lol.

[Anonymous No.16062842]

>>16062812
Correct, which is why Indonesia won't mean anything in the long run. They're unable to actually do anything with that growth.

>>16062803
Yes they will. There are no rebellions. The riots are a state sanctioned religious parade. Read a book, this is not the first time this has happened, and it will not be the last. I've already mentioned this: look up what a "Great Awakening" is. This is just that, but with shittier grammar. Lefty rags are openly calling it the Fifth Great Awokening.

>the US economy has no fucking gas
It doesn't need it. It's all fake. That's the entire fucking point. That's the ENTIRE fucking point. Read a book.

[Anonymous No.16062858]

>>16062836
believing hat china will take over the world because the tv said so is literally the most american thing you could possibly do. the only way you could be more american with this post of yours is if you started talking about how china can better provide black dick than the us

[Anonymous No.16062863]

shenji yang human hive soon

[Anonymous No.16062887]

>>16062842
are you stupid? the economy is the only thing keeping everyone from chimping out. if the US has no economy left to burn, we're going to implode

[Anonymous No.16062916]

>>16061894
I want China to be number one, when they are they can finally focus on being more socialist and helping other socialist nations.
China has a long term plan to bring communism to the world, first step now is to be stronger than america, if they aren't they will fail.


https://youtu.be/iZd_5-RNnDM

[Anonymous No.16062930]

>>16062887
The chimping out is happening because the government wants it to. "BLM" is a literal front for the Biden election campaign. I'm going to keep mentioning this until you actually look at history: This isn't new. This has happened before. It will happen again. This is a religious parade endorsed by the state. This has happened before. It's called a "Great Awakening". These happen every 50 years or so.

The economy is fake. That's why cities that have BLM protests see economic productivity and growth go up, and coronavirus cases go down. Why? Because it's all fake. It's totally divorced from reality. That is the point. So, if the people in charge say "big line go up", the line goes up. Why? Because it's fake.

>we're
There is no we. That is the point.

[Anonymous No.16062946]

China will be just another Europe.
It's currently the only country that is heading towards a potentially unsolvable demographic problem (low birth rates + prevalently male population) because of the idiotic machinegunning of kids they used in conjunction with the violation of human rights to have a low labor cost.

What is going to happen when china will have a pop of about 700 million that cannot work and need social security aswell as surveillance and the cant make more kids?

China would be the superopower leftists think it is if the commies didnt take power. A dictatorship can never be a superpower.

[Anonymous No.16062952]

>>16061904
Not OP but I would assume it's about how China has its shit together while America is a decaying, post-imperial failed state.

[Anonymous No.16062968]

>>16062952
Both those things are comically false.

The US was never imperialist and china has its shit togheter only with the lies they tell in a compulsory manner.

[Anonymous No.16062971]

>>16062946
>A dictatorship can never be a superpower.
for long

[Anonymous No.16062986]

>>16062150
>China will this century usurp the US as the world’s hegemon.
I'm American and this doesn't upset me at all. It relieves me. Ruling the world is draining and diverts attention away from domestic policies. America should go back to being isolationist and let the world burn and/or enjoy their subservience to China's totalitarian technocracy. See how they like it.

[Anonymous No.16062998]

>>16062887
China's dependence on continuous real economic growth is actually a HUGE detriment to it, as other anons have been saying. The US economy is almost entirely rooted in its financial and tech sectors, both of which are essentially bullshit conjured out of thin air. This means that China has to keep building roads, keep employing people, keep wages rising, keep making more crap, keep making more stuff, keep exporting more goods.

The problem is that we live on a finite planet with finite people and finite stuff. There are limits to continuous real economic growth. The fact that China has to lie and fudge the numbers at every level to keep up with its targets is a testament to this. You cannot keep growing forever, unless "Growth" is totally meaningless and divorced from reality.

Which the US's growth is, as the "Growth" that comes from Instagram and twitter is totally meaningless. The stock market is all fake. This is an enormous strength to the US, as it means that there's very little you can actually attack in any meaningful way. Some dude up thread brought up the Three Gorges Dam: when it goes, it'll fuck China's electrical grid, kill millions, and wipe away ungodly amounts of capital (literally, it will destroy factories, farms, etc). There is no dam that can wipe away Facebook. There is no dam that can wipe away Wallstreet. There is no dam that can wipe away Lloyd's of London.

[Anonymous No.16063003]

>>16062822
I'm not Chinese but a neutral observer. If you think that China just makes cheap plastic crap, you severely underestimate China to your own advantage. They are the leaders of 5G, has overtaken the US in the number of papers in scientific output, is ahead in supercomputing and is rapidly expanding its military in unseen ways. It's scary how fast they have grown. A giant of a nation, with 1.4 billion people, learning and growing at break neck speed. Of course, people will dismiss them as low life savages. That is, until China overtakes them.
>Because China's wealth and power is dependent upon physical capital and continuous gains in productivity.
Well yeah, that's how economies grow. China is doing that better than America.

[Anonymous No.16063023]

>>16062968
>US was never imperialist
This is patently false, the US is an Empire with a very large free-trade zone that it extracts wealth form.

>>16062946
China is the only country in the world that CAN fix a demographic problem. They're the only country that even acknowledges that demographics are a thing. If they succeed, I'll change my tune, because they'll have succeeded in the two bottlenecks to human society (demographics and energy; they'll have to get nuclear fusion to get the second one) and the rest of humanity will be irrelevant.

But then, just because you acknowledge a problem doesn't mean that your solutions are viable, or even possible.

[Anonymous No.16063026]

>>16063003
>They are the leaders of 5G

OH SHIT THEY CAN DOWNLOAD PORN MARGINALLY FASTER

[Anonymous No.16063036]

>>16062971
It can never be as a matter of fact.

Idiot leftists do not realize one of the main strenghts of the US historically speaking was its democracy that allowed individuals to enrich everyone. Im talking about businessmen, musicians, sport figures, you name it.

China will never have a Muhammad Ali, an Eminem, a Steve Jobs, an Elvis Presley, so on, because it would seek to controll all aspects of their life.

This is the Cultural power that the chinks with their archaic language will never have (reminding that english was enstiblished by the us as global lingua franca with their ciltural power).

Not to mention the us can currently take on all of the world's armies on their own and win easily.

Meanwhile the Chinese Imperialists sacrifice everything for economic growth and try to corrupt as much land as they can to have it on their side, but its irrelevant, as economy alone is just a minor factor of what made the usa a superpower.

[Anonymous No.16063038]

>>16061894
Well I’m asian and honestly an asian supremacist. I want the Chinese to win. Don’t care if people on 4chan don’t like Asians like me. Truth is asians will benefit in the long run the more dominant China is. Regardless of the trivial history you non-Asians bring up that happened between Asians.

[Anonymous No.16063041]

>>16063003
>has overtaken the US in the number of papers in scientific output
99.99% of them are junk. I'm not making that number up, most papers from China are totally worthless unless they come from non-Chinese in very specific fields (namely genetics).

> is ahead in supercomputing and is rapidly expanding its military in unseen ways
Both are irrelevant, China's military is a joke and supercomputing is presently a meme.

>Well yeah, that's how economies grow.
No it isn't. At all.

[Anonymous No.16063060]

>>16062634
>China is the dominant cultural force in half the world
This has always been the case, and never before in history have they managed to break out of their strictly regional influence. Even since Roman times. China has no concept of global reach, a strategy and custom which has been perfected and tested through western hegemony and imperialism. It takes all their resources and energy just to keep a country of 1.5 billion running. It's caught within its own gravity.

[Anonymous No.16063067]

>>16063023
>the US is an Empire with a very large free-trade zone that it extracts wealth form.
Prove it. If the us wanted to be an empire there would not be a single governement other than the us' from the UK to egypt.

>China is the only country in the world that CAN fix a demographic problem.

The problem china is going against is no Rwanda. It's much more serious. I recommend to read something about it yourself as you seem pretty reasonable.

[Anonymous No.16063072]

>>16063038
I honestly can’t believe you’re trying to
Still this shit right now lol the Chinese don’t even care about their own people let alone different asian. Races

[Anonymous No.16063079]

>>16062998
>China's dependence on continuous real economic growth is actually a HUGE detriment to it, as other anons have been saying. The US economy is almost entirely rooted in its financial and tech sectors, both of which are essentially bullshit conjured out of thin air. This means that China has to keep building roads, keep employing people, keep wages rising, keep making more crap, keep making more stuff, keep exporting more goods.

bro are you fucked in the head? how can you type this out and not realize china's economy will at least survive the next decade while the US is a flaming hot piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.16063111]

>>16063036
You can have personal liberty without democracy, I'd argue you can have MORE personal liberty without democracy. And most of the US's advancements had nothing to do with the structure of it's government. It was because it was one of the only nations still able to enjoy domestic border expansion AFTER the industrial revolution.

[Anonymous No.16063143]

>>16063038
It's funny that you think this because the two other most powerful Asian countries, Japan and South Korea, hate China.

[Anonymous No.16063147]

>>16063111
You are completely ignoring my point. Literally name anyone who did something very relevant to the world ever since the US existed, and he is probably from the us.

Your claim about having more personal liberty in a non democratical state is jibber jabber, It does not happen in europe because their democracies are false and their current culture is a washed down version of the us one.

[Anonymous No.16063196]

I think there's something to be said about foreigners lack of enthusiasm for China. In the Cold War you had states on both sides whose elites were genuinely supportive and enthusiastic of their superpower. Western-aligned states genuinely thought the US and NATO were right and Eastern-aligned states genuinely thought the USSR was right. I dont think you get that with China, the only reasons anyone deals with then is because they have to. If there was an alternative there would be no ideologicsl hangups for them to switch away from China. In the long run I think this will come back to bite them.

[Anonymous No.16063208]

>>16062998
You have to be retarded. The US economy can exist in la la land because people TRUST it. But everyone knows that if creditors stop trusting it, there is no safety net for America. If there is an actual revolution or civil war in this country, the economy is over. China has a REAL economy that can sustain its people and keep a baseline. They have single handedly saved global capitalism TWICE already by sheer demand. There are more China-dependent resources economies accross the world than US dependent ones. The American economy is based solely on its purchasing power of commodities, but its younger generations are buying less than the previous ones, meanwhile the burgeoning Chinese middle class is spending more than the generations before them ever could because of the closed economy. China isn’t the cultural influencer it could be (with a 1.4+ population, increasingly educated and middle class) because of its socialists policies that heavily filter trade (like all the western social media bans).

Considering the sheer number of wealthy Chinese in your univeristies and cultural hubs, do you really think that if they had access to the western spheres of influence (like social media) that they wouldn’t become a far more dominant presence? Get real. The only think keeping China frombeinf that presence is its own nation-first policies. Who knows? Maube this is all for nought, and the CCP is actually communist and will privatized everything again in the future.

[Anonymous No.16063210]

>>16063041
>99.99% of them are junk. I'm not making that number up, most papers from China are totally worthless unless they come from non-Chinese in very specific fields (namely genetics).
No they're not. I work in the science field. I wrote my dissertation and 90% of my references were from Chinese papers.
>China's military is a joke
To some extent, yes. To think that it will always be is silly.
>supercomputing is presently a meme.
Seriously?
>No it isn't. At all.
Yes it is. GDP = Sum of Consumption, Government spending, Investment and Export led growth. China is currently preferring export led growth. America is preferring Consumption led growth. There's no reason to think one is better than the other.

[Anonymous No.16063211]

>>16062998
>This means that China has to keep building roads, keep employing people, keep wages rising, keep making more crap, keep making more stuff, keep exporting more goods.
So in other words, continue having a real economy rather than one based on imaginary figments like America's is?
Also, China's tech sector is experiencing explosive growth just as much if nor more than America's so it's economy is undergoing "virtual growth" too. Alibaba, Baidu, etc, are some of the biggest companies and all they are is essentially knock off Amazons and Googles catering to Chinese needs. The Chinese leadership saw the potential of a "fake" tech economy and that's why they mandated that no western tech giants could operate in China other than to rent Chinese factory space and built their own "walled garden" software infrastructure (including their own national OS).

China's biggest problem economically is that it is relying on a form of autarky that has its roots in Maoist ideals of self-reliance. They artificially boost GDP by having absolutely no industrial standards for manufacturing and construction which is why all their products fall apart and their many of their buildings collapse.

[Anonymous No.16063215]

>>16063196
Because China is self-contained and satisfied being a strong independent woman. USSR and US are clout chasing parasites.

[Anonymous No.16063222]

There's so many people itt that have no clue of the world of China. I'm not surprised, since China is closed off to outside of Asia. To think that they just make cheap toys is laughable. Seriously. Dismiss anyone who says that.

[Anonymous No.16063228]

>>16063147
>Literally name anyone who did something very relevant to the world ever since the US existed, and he is probably from the us.
Since this is the /lit/ board, almost all relevant philosophers of the 20th century were either German, French or British. Also, all the big discoveries in 20th century physics were mainly done by Germans. The American Space race was mainly undertaken by ex-Nazi scientists and also literally everything the USSR did in science and technology

[Anonymous No.16063240]

>>16062168
In Asia they do. I ain’t even Chinese.

[Anonymous No.16063244]

>>16061894
When will politicos stop underestimating the power of the Aryan and Semitic races ?

[Anonymous No.16063245]

>>16063067
>Prove it. If the us wanted to be an empire there would not be a single governement other than the us' from the UK to egypt.
Mate, just read Noam Chomsky's work. The US is an empire that acts through the WTO, IMF and through the dollar as the world's reserve currency.

[Anonymous No.16063246]

>>16061894
What's it about?

[Anonymous No.16063247]

>>16063208
>REAL economy
That's why they regularly lie about their GDP.

[Anonymous No.16063254]

>>16062150
>>16062157
OK this sounds like the books written during the cold War about how the soviet union was going to win

[Anonymous No.16063258]

>>16063208
>do you really think that if they had access to the western spheres of influence (like social media) that they wouldn’t become a far more dominant presence
All of those Chinamen living in the West do have access to Western social media. They have no social influence because Chinese culture has nothing to offer Westerners.

[Anonymous No.16063259]

>>16062842
If you'd like to submit alternative forecasts and modelling to PwC I'm sure your ' they're Muslims bro' model will be taken into consideration.

[Anonymous No.16063278]

>>16063215
Well yeah thays my point. Strong independent women grow old and end up alone and full of regret. Clout chasers win popularity contests and as soon as someone new who chases clout shows up on the scene China is going to end up a bitter old thot

[Anonymous No.16063280]

>>16063258
You’re right. There aren’t enough black trannies in China to get westerners going.

[Anonymous No.16063297]

>>16063245
>just read Noam Chomsky

[Anonymous No.16063298]

>>16063247
They lie because they can. Why would they tell others what they’re up to? Overreport? Give a false sense of strength. Underreport? Give a false sense of security. All countries that can lie about this facts. There’s zero strategic advantage to reporting accurate stats about your nation to the world.

[Anonymous No.16063328]

>>16063003
As someone who works in patents there isn't a single one that has come from China that is worth even a penny.

[Anonymous No.16063330]

>>16061894
nothing wrong with that, american primacy is the liberal globohomo
can't wait to see all the end of history tards when liberalism fades away from countries influenced by China

[Anonymous No.16063332]

>>16063280
I mean yeah you can joke all you want but Chinese culture has nothing to offer anyone of any major ideological inclination in the West. Theyll never replace the US in that regard. Even outside the West people have no real affinity for Chinese culture, their relationships are all born strictly out of economic necessity. As soon as an economic partner with a more appealing culture comes along theyre going to be fucked. Realistically I see this leading to multipolarism as other developing countries across the world begin to take leadership roles in their regions.

[Anonymous No.16063338]

>>16062986
While I share the sentiment, one concern is that declining empires have historically turned the tools of imperial control inward.

[Anonymous No.16063348]

>>16063196
It goes back to the idea that China has this sort of cultural autism and only knows how to deal with itself. Only fairly recently has Xi Jinping stated "China needs to learn more about the world and the world needs to learn more about China."
America's geopolitical structure derives from the British, who had the only truly global empire that could be effectively administrated, who essentially handed over all their trade secrets after WWII when they realized the game was up. Obviously the US isn't interested in a territorial empire in the traditional sense but relies on economic, military and soft power to influence diplomacy. The USSR was built on an internationalist socialist agenda which it took very seriously, actively trying to gain client states and expand its borders in typical Russian imperialist fashion while fomenting communist uprising in vulnerable countries.
China in contrast can't see beyond its own borders. And if they do, they view it strictly in terms of business transactions. Its investments in Africa, for instance, are motivated by a desire to capitalize on Africa's natural resources by currying favor through loans and infrastructure investment. But they aren't interested in forming a power bloc out of the states they finance.

[Anonymous No.16063351]

>>16062295
>Chinks make money and focused on money only, i grew up around them, their lives are simply minmaxed for grinding money while sacrificing many other aspects.
they aren't the ones selling away their industry, their strategical assets, their real estates and their own destiny to foreign interests

[Anonymous No.16063354]

>>16063245
>Noam Chomsky
You only read Noam Chomsky because you put yourself in an eco chamber where you can endlessly tell yourself you are right. He is a commie supporting piece of shit and all that he says he says because he hates america, even tough it's the country's struture that allows a parasyte like him to exist to begin with.

Remember when he tried to excuse pol pot, when he supported monti's governement despite its disastrous economical deicisons, when he supported israel? These prove how shallow his thinking is.

The bretton woods system was agreed on by countries, and not forced on them. It benefitted all of its partecipants. That's not imperialism.

[Anonymous No.16063378]

>>16063211
You rum out of roads to build and manufacturing can be (and is) relocated. Its happening now. All of my clients have moved to Polish manufacturers. China has not sufficiently budged the middle income gap to survive the purge because they've been too preoccupied with whijnie the fucking poo.

[Anonymous No.16063398]

>>16063258
Chinky girls are hot. Chinky food is nice. Chinky culture is fucked beyond repair. They've had their souls utterly destroyed from every different angle over the last few thousand years.

[Anonymous No.16063402]

>>16063332
This. I remember being in middle school here in italy, and we would often listen to talks from exchange students or external teachers from china, clearly sent by the government to expand their influence.

In a school of 12 year olds no one looked at the chinese as anything more than dog eating subhumans. China has not a single chanche in the culture game no matter how much they lie to themselves.

[Anonymous No.16063409]

>>16063348
China trying to become more culturally connected to the world is on the same level as an autist from /r9k/ trying to "be himself" at a party or something and it'll have the same exact results. Nobody wants to learn about Chinese culture and I really don't think the Chinese are going to collectively turn towards wanting to learn everyone else's, especially considering the current leadership are the moderate ones as far as Chinese nationalism goes.

[Anonymous No.16063408]

>>16063298
Fuck investor confidence by lying all the time and even your own citizens will begin to put their money abroad. That's what's happened it's not the CCP colonising the globe its rich Chinese people not wanting to out their money where their mouth is because theyre too scared of losing it.

[Anonymous No.16063410]

>>16062998
>China's dependence on continuous real economic growth is actually a HUGE detriment to it, as other anons have been saying. The US economy is almost entirely rooted in its financial and tech sectors, both of which are essentially bullshit conjured out of thin air. This means that China has to keep building roads, keep employing people, keep wages rising, keep making more crap, keep making more stuff, keep exporting more goods.
The US economy is almost entirely rooted in debt, Asia learned that the hard way and China decided to switch to real assets

[Anonymous No.16063414]

>>16063298
Reporting false data is never a sign of a country's wellbeing.

[Anonymous No.16063423]

>>16063398
outside of a literal weeb basket weaving forum mobody thinks chinks are hot and actual Chinese food from China is not anything special

[Anonymous No.16063427]

>>16063351
Only because nobody wants to buy.

[Anonymous No.16063429]

>>16063427
yeah ok

[Anonymous No.16063432]

>>16062473
Imagine thinking supremacy is something you have to agree with, it's a matter of fact not an opinion.

[Anonymous No.16063435]

>>16063423
I'm a britbong, Asians are hit because they're a rarity. Same with the food.

[Anonymous No.16063445]

>>16063429
Seriously. Even chinks don't invest in China unless they're forced to with the threat of permanent 're-education'.

[Anonymous No.16063450]

>>16062473
africa seems to think otherwise, there are many countries that also are resentful towards the US and westerners in general

[Anonymous No.16063462]

>>16063432
The us supremacy was agreed on with the bretton woods system. Countries that rejected the us stayed poor shitholes.

The chinese have virtually no influence outside their borders, everyone sees them as autist dog eating bat slurping subhumans.

Sorry chang, you are not going to be able to impose anything on anyone that is outside of your borders.

[Anonymous No.16063468]

Nobody pretending China will rule the world has ever done business with a Chinese company. They'll be lucky to tie their fucking shoelaces without heavy Central planning.

[Anonymous No.16063476]

>>16063435
You're probably eating Americanized Chinese food. Anyone whos been around a lot of chinks knows that 90% of their women shaped like cardboard and just as flat

[Anonymous No.16063482]

>>16063445
they are still sending money home though and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them work one way or another with chink secret services, clearly there is some kind of national allegiance along with their money obsession which in my mind is a bit better than boomers selling to foreigners, hiring foreigners and voting for foreigners

[Anonymous No.16063485]

>>16063476
Yeah but they're yellow, can't outdrink me and are not fat. Seriously have a trip to Yorkshire some time.

[Anonymous No.16063491]

>>16063211
>China's biggest problem economically is that it is relying on a form of autarky that has its roots in Maoist ideals of self-reliance.
>self reliance
>problem
you have to stop talking because you don't know what half the words you're saying mean.

[Anonymous No.16063499]

>>16063485
They also smell like shit because they don't use deodorant and have the chest of a 12 year old boy lmao

[Anonymous No.16063500]

>>16063482
Who the fuck cares what hedge funds and oligarchs are buying property, spend less time on the intnernet. A lot of chinks end up losing their citizenship by accident and staying out.

[Anonymous No.16063511]

>>16063499
Oh you're an incel. Sorry, I thought I was talking to an adult.

[Anonymous No.16063516]

>>16062916
Holy shit, is there more music like this?

[Anonymous No.16063523]

>>16062150
And yet just a well or two ago a top Chinese military advisor ( a Warhawk at that) advised the Chinese government that they are being over zealous and should not engage the US do directly, and argued the exact opposite of what this author says.
The truth is, China is incapable of innovation, whether it be technological or social, and is unable to quickly adapt to new challenges. The world sees through its expansionist bs in the South China Sea, and its Silk Road initiative in Africa has been a disaster. The US, though suffering domestically, has consistently been able to project power all over the globe, and it will be decades before this is challenged.
China is not one to be taken lightly, but the economic growth will not sustain itself long enough to overshadow the US’s economy, and their military strategy has proven to be quite ineffective in its goals.

[Anonymous No.16063524]

>>16063500
>Who the fuck cares what hedge funds and oligarchs are buying property
it starts becoming a problem when chinks drive the price of real estate to the roof

[Anonymous No.16063526]

>>16063511
>incels aren't adults
>incels are bad because they don't have sex
You want children to have sex? You little nonce.

[Anonymous No.16063548]

>>16063524
That's not how real estate works and I think you know that.

[Anonymous No.16063553]

>>16063450
>africa
oh no, not the spear chuckers!

[Anonymous No.16063565]

>>16063378
China is a big ass country and its rural parts are still underdeveloped. It has much more runway for infrastructure than you might think.

>>16063491
I'm the one making some of the smartest posts in this thread so stfu. China doesn't know how to think internationally.

[Anonymous No.16063576]

>>16063526
Thanks for confirming.

[Anonymous No.16063587]

>>16062930
>This isn't new. This has happened before. It will happen again.
where else has this happened?

[Anonymous No.16063591]

>>16063332
>>16063402
What's this obsession with exporting culture? Nobody gives a fuck about it. It's really not that important. Chinese culture has permeated through somewhat in America (see all the China towns etc.) and American culture has permeated through in China (they loved Kung Fu Panda). Is American culture stronger globally? Of course. Is it that important? Not really. Money talks.

[Anonymous No.16063592]

>>16063565
It's big, but there's only so much you can get by improving rural infrastructure which I thunk is why they've started looking to Africa and the Belts & roads idea or whatever it was called.

[Anonymous No.16063599]

>>16061946
simple workaround is to copypaste the name of the article into your searchbar. should be accessible then.

[Anonymous No.16063606]

>>16061894
Tbh if you're even moderately wealthy and not overly opinionated politically smaller Chinese towns are sick. Seriously considering relocating to Chengdu.

[Anonymous No.16063615]

Surprised nobody has mentioned the wild card here - India. Will overtake China's population soon. It's run like complete shit though. Too many religious fights and is a barely unified nation. Hates China but tentatively looks at America.

[Anonymous No.16063623]

>>16063036
>China will never have a Muhammad Ali
What, like a famous fighter? What about Jackie Chan?

[Anonymous No.16063633]

>>16063038
Based

[Anonymous No.16063636]

>>16063615
It'll take more than 30-40 years for India to overtake China's GDP, the problem is everybody would rather do business with Indian companies than Chinese companies because they're less Jewy. I'd say once civic infrastructure improves and the caste system fades into memory India will be one of the world's great nations both financially and culturally. I say this as a bitter Brit.

[Anonymous No.16063646]

>>16063615
>>16063636
I could see Hindutva unifying India into an actual nationstate.

I could also see Hindutva totally bungling it and turning India into a just-barely-above-pakistan tier shithole.

[Anonymous No.16063664]

>>16063646
I can and can't. I think one of Indian's strengths globally is that they don't let their culture get in the way of money and influence but also don't throw the baby out with the bathwater so it's not just dubai.

[Anonymous No.16063695]

>>16061946
https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/master/README.md

[Anonymous No.16063701]

>>16063646
I couldn’t see India as anything other than what it is now, or an Africa-level wasteland. It’s not that it’s impossible for India to become a superpower, it’s just that I couldn’t see it because at that point I would long be down at the bottom of some ravine

[Anonymous No.16063847]

>>16063511
>duuuurrrrr you don't like yellow girls your an incel!
Really?

[Anonymous No.16063866]

>>16063847
He also confirmed it one post later, my suspicions were correct.

[Anonymous No.16063881]

>>16063866
My bad, I hadn't seen that one.

[Anonymous No.16063885]

>>16063591
Money talks because they have literally nothing else to offer and as soon as an economicslly viable alternative comes along that isn't culturally autistic theyre going to be in trouble.

[Anonymous No.16063896]

>>16063866
>>16063881
Thats my post faggot, you're calling me an incel because I don't find chibks attractive. Fuck off neckbeard

[Anonymous No.16063898]

>>16063885
They deliberately destroyed everything beautiful in their own culture. The only parts of China worth a shit are the rural areas. Its cities are hollow shells.

[Anonymous No.16063912]

>>16063885
The only alternative to China is India and India is so far behind its laughable.

[Anonymous No.16063913]

>>16062227
especially the ones with organs viable for transplant in party members in need

[Anonymous No.16063914]

>>16063896
The language you used made it immediately obvious.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.16063921]

>>16062099
how stupid or delusional does one have to be to think the pedophile plutocrat cabal are some superhuman genius masterminds capable of shaping the whole of history with their grubby little goblin jew paws? how much of a sycophant cuck do you have to be to think this highly of epstein's friends?

[Anonymous No.16063934]

>>16063921
Jesus fucking Christ grow up you head case. Black Rock have over 7 trillion in AUM. What they say goes.

[Anonymous No.16063936]

>>16063914
I'm not an incel you stupid nigger go jerk off to your perfect 2d yellow waifu wheb in reality she's got the same body now that you had 15 years ago and smells like stale piss from a meter away.

[Anonymous No.16063937]

>>16063921

[Anonymous No.16063943]

>>16063936
You have to be 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.16063954]

>>16063921
>Thinking the Chinese won't end up just like the Japanese
We already saw this movie in the 80s.

[Anonymous No.16063962]

>>16063912
No, the alternative is regionalization of power power politics. States like Brazil, Indonesia, Turkey, Ghana, etc will fill the void the US is leaving once they really begin to develop and they'll be seen as their neighbors as a welcomed alternative to tone-deaf China. This will be exacerbated by the fact that China has no history of and isnt currently pursuing global hard power projection.

[Anonymous No.16063972]

>>16063943
Project harder Chang

[Anonymous No.16063984]

>>16061894
China can't even out GDP the EU and half of them are basically white Africans.

[Anonymous No.16063994]

https://www.readingthechinadream.com/jiang-shigong-empire-and-world-order.html
>Since the twentieth century, the inevitable fate of humanity has been to enter into the world empire. No matter whether we see it as a source of “everlasting peace” or if we maintain our Communist expectations, and no matter how much we criticize and or deplore technological, economic and political hegemony, we cannot escape the arrival of the age of world empire. If we say that the origins of world empire can be traced to competition between regional civilizational empires, then today’s world empire 1.0 is the model of world empire shaped by Western Christian civilization.

>This model faces three great unsolvable problems: the ever-increasing inequality created by the liberal economy; state failure, political decline, and ineffective governance caused by political liberalism; and decadence and nihilism created by cultural liberalism. In the face of these difficulties, even the United States has pulled back in terms of worldwide military strategy, which means that world empire 1.0 is currently facing a great crisis, and that revolts, resistance, and revolution from within the empire are unravelling the system.

>The rise of world empire completely changed traditional political and ideological distinctions between left and right, traditionally based in domestic politics, as can be clearly seen in the competitive elections in the United States and Europe. The right wing, which traditionally defended free markets, has now shifted toward populism, while the left wing has changed its tune and now defends the vested interests of globalization. This ideological reversal is an excellent reflection of the crisis faced by world empire today, in that there are no political programs that can address the three great problems world empire is facing.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.16063998]

>>16062998
>China's dependence on continuous real economic growth is actually a HUGE detriment to it, as other anons have been saying. The US economy is almost entirely rooted in its financial and tech sectors, both of which are essentially bullshit conjured out of thin air. This means that China has to keep building roads, keep employing people, keep wages rising, keep making more crap, keep making more stuff, keep exporting more goods.

the bulk of china's unicorn startups are hocus pocus asset management and financial services conjuring value ex nihilo, just like the US. or rather, just like the US a few years ago when we dominated the startup scene before mass mergers and acquisitions further centralized the center, not 2020 US where silicon valley's legacy has been shamefully reduced to a handful of glorified landlords and welfare queen subsidy sponges who don't even pretend to create value anymore.

[Anonymous No.16064001]

>>16063994
>We might conclude that we are living in an age of chaos, conflict, and massive change in which world empire 1.0 is in decline and trending toward collapse, while we are as yet unable to imagine world empire 2.0. Yet we must recognize that change in the form of empire is a long historical process. The several thousand years of the history of mankind have witnessed only three great changes in imperial form, and each of these changes has been accompanied by great conflicts and chaos. At the same time, we cannot deny that these ages of historical transition have also created the opportunity for each civilization to construct world empire 2.0. The civilization that is able to provide genuine solutions to the three great problems facing world empire 1.0 will also provide the blueprint for world empire 2.0. As a great world power that must look beyond its own borders, China must reflect on her own future, for her important mission is not only to revive her traditional culture. China must also patiently absorb the skills and achievements of humanity as a whole, and especially those employed by Western civilization to construct world empire. Only on this basis can we see the reconstruction of Chinese civilization and the reconstruction of the world order as a mutually re-enforcing whole.

[Anonymous No.16064013]

>>16062946
>A dictatorship can never be a superpower.
lol

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE No.16064040]

>>16063934
and? managed assets are a parlor trick, you see a big number and think they must own the world ten times over. in reality any and every financial institution can and inevitably will go the way of the swiss bank, having their backs broken over the knee of any genuine power that deems force necessary.

[Anonymous No.16064058]

>>16064040
Meanwhile in the real world they manage the assets of every major lobbyist, billionaire and influential politician in the world. Including the Chinese. Your teenage power fantasies will not change that.

[Anonymous No.16064109]

>>16063067
>Prove it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism

[Anonymous No.16064158]

China won because they operated under the assumption that the LTV is true.

[Anonymous No.16064251]

>Chink economy is fake as fuck! It relies TOO MUCH on doing real shit like building roads and houses and lifting millions of people out of third world poverty!!
>The US economy based on kike wallstreet portfolios made up of 0s and 1s no one will ever spend or see will win!!!

[Anonymous No.16064256]

>>16064158
They're fucked long term because it isn't.

[Anonymous No.16064271]

>>16064251
the kike shitshow isnt the one with a dam bulging out set to drown millions and wipe out half of its economy

that doesnt mean that the kike shitshow is better, just that you are a dumbfuck for wanting to get genocided by chinks instead of being genocided by jews. why not choose neither?

[Anonymous No.16064292]

>America integrates China's economy into the world to take advantage of cheap labour and lack of human rights
>China booms upwards at a ferocious pace
>America shitting themselves that China will overtake them and freak out over TikTok and Huawei
>its too late
fuckin lol

[Anonymous No.16064298]

>>16062457
In India no one listens to Kanye

[Anonymous No.16064318]

Lots of westoid cope itt

[Anonymous No.16064338]

>>16064292
we couldn't even touch tiktok

[Anonymous No.16064356]

>>16062634
Do not mistaken cultural products out of Taiwan/HK with mainland chinks.

[Anonymous No.16064359]

>>16061894
who the fuck reads these kind of in the current political/cultural books. I feel they become outdated within a year or so and there is no value after that.

[Anonymous No.16064369]

I noticed progressives didn't complain when USGOV shit its pants over the Chinese ownership of Grindr and orchestrated its purchase.

[Anonymous No.16064374]

>>16063228
killing the German spirit was the biggest error. If either the Kaiserreich or Hitler won we wouldnt have those problems, the West would still be in a golden age under white guidance, no fear of chinks taking over.

[Anonymous No.16064379]

>>16064369
No-one cares incel.

[Anonymous No.16064393]

>>16062168
They're not even partaking in it.

[Anonymous No.16064441]

>>16064338
This shows misunderstanding. The parent company, Bytedance is forced to divest its operations. So no, the US cucked China on TikTok. BUT, China overall cucked the US since a dancing app for zoomers made them paranoid

[Anonymous No.16064450]

>>16061923
>paywall

[Anonymous No.16064476]

>>16064393
and that's why you'll lose, rice boy

[Anonymous No.16064491]

>>16062803
>tenants literally beheading their landlords
fuckin based

[Anonymous No.16064533]

>>16062803
>tenants literally beheading their landlords

[Anonymous No.16064538]

>>16064450
I posted the full text. Scroll Down.

[Anonymous No.16064548]

>>16063247
yes, their economy is real. they have factories and make real tangible goods. meanwhile western economies are all based on financial speculation and produce nothing
what is you think more sustainable?

[Anonymous No.16064574]

>>16062683
>a growing Indonesia are 2.
lol i wish, the thing is the muslim majority is slowly turning to radical islam as to counter globohomo agitprop, although the consumerism has been rising rapidly for the past few years (pre-covid). The thing is the CCP is that they had put their money to our newer infrastructure projects on the secondary islands (alongside Russia), replacing the dominant investors being the US, Japan, Aussie, the public reaction to this wasn't so good since the chinks have been sending in their workers instead of using the local labour not to mention the mainland chinks are outchinking the local chinese indonesians.

>>16062802
Not only IQ tho, Indonesians aren't materialistically driven as the chinks since we kinda believe in spirituality and religion (or being stupid, as the midwits love to parrot).

[Anonymous No.16064585]

>>16064548
the fake shell game economy, as it can keep going forever. it's certainly not the economy based on infinite growth on a finite planet that doesn't believe in building dams meant to last.

[Anonymous No.16064607]

>>16063038
Another Asian here, listen chang, chung, jeong, mong, idc which land u from meet me in the South China Sea after class, let's settle this once and for all.

[Anonymous No.16064612]

>>16064585
it can keep going forever as long as there is someone that actually produces things for them, i.e., china. you can't live on fake money that only exists in a computer and can buy nothing. and the computer is made by the chinese

[Anonymous No.16064632]

>>16062227
That's why they make fun summer camps for Uyighurs.

[Anonymous No.16064635]

>>16062803
You mericans, send ur millenials and zoomers to South China Sea too.

[Anonymous No.16064642]

>>16064632
why am I supposed to suddenly care about the rights of terrorists?

[Anonymous No.16064658]

>>16064642
Don't care, cool edgy anon. Just don't pretend Chinese people have any hint of humanity and empathy.

[Anonymous No.16064687]

>>16064642
Because you said China cares about people

[Anonymous No.16064688]

China's rise to dominance can be characterized by a shift from an export-oriented economy to a domestic-led one, in which state-owned enterprises (SOEs) are the principal players. This is not necessarily a bad thing. The rise of China in this role is an example of state-controlled economic development in a capitalist economy, with the state providing much of the infrastructure needed to sustain this development, including the ability to buy off rivals. Thus the rise of China is an affirmation of the superiority of the capitalist model, including its ability to provide the basis for development in an impoverished environment.

[Anonymous No.16064712]

>>16064687
idk man some footages floating on the internet are showing that they're doing just fine.

[Anonymous No.16064738]

>>16064658
anon let me explain this. your country existed for 200 years or so. it has been a world power since ww2, and it has been the world's hegemon for 10-20 years. 2008 spelled it's final decline.

china existed in one form or another for thousands of years and it has always been the center of the world. it's produced everything worthwhile and every other country wanted it's products. this was true for centuries and the european age of discovery happened because they wanted chinese products.

now there was a slight hiccup in chinese hegemony due to european and american technological and political developments that china failed to adopt.

they now closed that gap in technology and adopted the latest european political developments, i.e., communism. meanwhile the west is enslaved to outdated capitalist ideology that is destroying their economies and their politicians don't have any plans besides surviving to the next elections.
the people who did have long-term plans, i.e., the civil service were defunded and gutted for idiotic political reasons to make some excel sheets look good.
china has no such problems. and I for one welcome a return to sanity and embrace our HAN overlords

[Anonymous No.16064751]

>"who cares if they put people in camps theyre all terrorists"
>but you just said they care about people
>uhhh actually those camps look great online!
So this is the power of Chinese shilling

[Anonymous No.16064766]

DoNotLearnMandarinIREPEAT.png

Someone pls post it.

[Anonymous No.16064811]

>>16064751
you don't have moral authority to talk about locking people in camps

[Anonymous No.16064815]

>>16062986
Most of the developing world is already subserving to America, as it has happened throughout history it just goes from being controlled by one country to another. Don't think people will miss American imperialism, which does not mean they will prefer whatever comes next.

[Anonymous No.16064884]

>>16064815
America didn't have to actively control anything though, countries WANT to buy American products, they WANT to watch American TV, they WANT to live in America. You can't say the same about China

[Anonymous No.16064885]

>>16064811
>interrogation and deporting of illegal aliens crossing an International Border is same as systematic oppression of religious minorities and lawful citizens.
This is your brain on CCP.

[Anonymous No.16064887]

>>16064738
Hegemony was not possible until the world globalized in the 19th century. Prior to that China was certainly the major power in its region but the two times it tried to expand out of its region it 1. Was btfo by the Arabs and 2. Failed completely to have a lasting colonial network. Europeans were more interested in reaching India and the West Indies than China.

[Anonymous No.16064896]

>>16062986
>America should go back to being isolationist and let the world burn and/or enjoy their subservience to China's totalitarian technocracy. See how they like it.
Lol imagine thinking this is possible "lol fuck dat, we ain't gonna do shit no more, we gonna dindu nuffin" and expecting those countries that got wrecked by US foreign policy, CIA interventions, etc. wouldn't do something about that.

[Anonymous No.16064899]

>>16064811
Unlike you, I'm not the one that tried to sell my tinpot termite dictatorship by saying they "care about people"

[Anonymous No.16064903]

>>16064884
I want to live in China, I just don't want any Chinese people to be there.

[Anonymous No.16065003]

>>16064884
>America didn't have to actively control anything though
What do you mean with this? Because America has had to actively control and interfere other countries under their power. It's not as simple as you make it out to be, if american products were to be threteaned in a country the US did very much take an active role to impede it.

[Anonymous No.16065010]

>>16065003
If everyone wanted to buy US shit Trump wouldn't be turning the world into an enemy with protectionism.

[Anonymous No.16065034]

>>16065010
Eh, everyone does want American shit but its too expensive for most people.

[Anonymous No.16065040]

>>16064658
>exponentially higher social mobility for its poorest
>doesn't have 9/11 amounts of people dying every day of corona
however little you think china cares about its people, it clearly cares more than the US

[Anonymous No.16065058]

>>16065034
China is the cause of this since they are the ones driving up the dollar and causing the RMB to be devalued. It's not really America's fault, unless you want the USD to be at a fixed rate. But if that were to happen, the global economy would be giga fucked

[Anonymous No.16065082]

>>16065010
I only mentioned US products because you did too, but that's not the only way of achieving economical control. Anyways, Trump might be turning european countries into an enemy, but those are not the countries subservient to the US. Latin American countries like Mexico or El Salvador, Honduras etc. still have to bend over to the decisions made by Trump, whether they like it or not.

[Anonymous No.16065120]

>fucking commies are winning capitalism
what the fuck??

[Anonymous No.16065131]

>>16061894
I'm sorry, but did the United States already lose? Oh, that’s right. The century isn’t even over yet. In fact, it’s only 20 years in. Does not having the lead at an arbitrary point in time count as a loss? Is that what you’re saying? Because if you’re saying that I can assure you that you’re wrong. Why would you make this topic when the world is still moving on? The United States is still operatingright now and they have been the best country in the West for how many years now? They’re competing with one of the worst countries in the world who just happen to have a lead because they’re feeding off the energy of an economy built off slave labor manufacturing. But you know what? They still fucking suck. The United States is one of the best fucking countries in the world, they went 2.3% last year and would of won the highest GDP if the economy didn’t choke. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you’re going to be embarrassed when the United States wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, the Chinese just started a horrible pandemic and are suffering from once-in-a-century flooding, just like the Egyptians did. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I’m fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you’re the only guy making all these anti-American topics because you’re a faggot hater who doesn’t like the country because they’re good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking countries on the board, like I give a fuck. It’s so easy to spot out your threads now, you’re a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don’t you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That’s just you, you’re always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

[Anonymous No.16065144]

>>16065058
RMB hasn't been that devalued since 2012, doesnt matter what drumpf is twatting about. Was a historical mechanism yes, now the chinese drive up their export through other means.

[Anonymous No.16065145]

>>16062383
and who says quality journalism's dead

[Anonymous No.16065171]

Manufacturing is already moving out of China. It's over. Letting gain of function research leak out of a supposedly secure lab is just going to speed up the process of everyone getting the hell out of that shit hole.

[Anonymous No.16065412]

>>16065171
cope. they do their own manufacturing now.
they build miles upon miles of high-speed rail, they now have their own high-tech companies like huawei, they are ahead by miles in fields like machine learning and 5g.

[Anonymous No.16065449]

>>16064896
Yeah faggot? Are they gonna cross the ocean and invade the continent with their piecemeal armies?

[Anonymous No.16065457]

>>16062863

[Anonymous No.16065460]

>>16065131
copy pasta?

[Anonymous No.16065477]

>>16061901

Obviously nothing, he said it's over. This is the final book one reads, clearly.

[Anonymous No.16065488]

>>16062227

Yes, that's why they leave people dying in the streets and chop the legs off dogs while they're alive. Because they care.

[Anonymous No.16065520]

>>16065460
you must lurk for at least three years before posting here

[Anonymous No.16065521]

>>16065488
yeah but abusing dogs and cats is based

oh my puppers
gb32 reddig

[Anonymous No.16065530]

>>16065520
fuck you I will post here when I want. glory to xi jinping

[Anonymous No.16065541]

>>16063247
There is not a single economy out there that does not

[Anonymous No.16065558]

>>16065120
They gave up on communism, just like the vietnamese did, because it doesn't work. The compromise of communist governments not wanting to starve to death lead them to fascist state capitalism, and you can't deny the Han-Supremacist worldview of the CCP.

But it really goes to show you who's in charge when Hollywood can make movies attacking the US, but they can't even show Chinese people reaching for falling diamonds in a Marvel movie.

[Anonymous No.16065578]

>>16065449
No ocean needed, you got them coming already from the south. Prepare to get transmogrified wyteboi.

[Anonymous No.16065595]

>>16065412
Cope. Someday the communist dynasty is going to collapse, and when it does the CIA will be there to make sure the place ends up like Yugoslavia.

[Anonymous No.16065618]

>>16065120
It's more subtle than that. China's "socialism with Chinese characteristics" is state capitalism. It merges state controlled centralized planning and
"free market" enterprise in a way that makes the typical orthodox economist look like a clown. There's virtually nothing communist about it save for the symbolism and aesthetic of Maoism™ , which if nothing else could be interpreted as brand continuity. The CCP thinks nothing of communist revolution and if anything is terrified of the prospect. Instead they cultivate a stable of multibillionaire technocrats who constitute the business elite who answer to Beijing. In this respect they are much like Putin's oligarchy in Russia.
Chinese state capitalism has the advantage of free market innovation, where the smartest are allowed to pursue practical scientific and technical ideas relatively freely, but all value is captured and mediated by the state. The state does not seek to granularly micromanage every aspect of the economy but private enterprise is obligated to follow the government agenda.

[Anonymous No.16065636]

>>16065595
>meanwhile the blacks and corona-chan are in the process of completely burning usa

[Anonymous No.16065664]

>>16065618
>terrified of the prospect
Well on second thought, I wouldn't say "terrified." They would view rhetoric about a communist revolution as seditious. On an ideological and strategic level, they know they're the only holdover of a bygone socialistic allegiance and that there is no practical value to pushing revolutionary rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.16065670]

>>16065618
>state capitalism
whatever you call it. the crucial point is that the government agenda is not to loot the country for scrap metal and copper wire like in the capitalist west, but to actually improve the lives of the people. that's THE objective of socialism,

[Anonymous No.16065699]

>>16065664
it's the same thing as french liberals who would massacre the rioting workers in the june revolt.
the rebellion against a tyrannical monarchy is justified, while the rebellion agains a democratic republic is not.
in china it is: the rebellion against nationalists was justified but not agains a "people's state"

[Anonymous No.16065735]

>>16062803
Yes they will, Zoomers are still working at fast food joints while unemployment is paying out more than they can make working.

[Anonymous No.16065742]

>>16065664
isn't socialism allowed to develop and change to suit the need of a particular time?
must we just dogmatically follow the ussr into the grave?

[Anonymous No.16065757]

>>16065521
Your trying too hard newfag

[Anonymous No.16065768]

>>16065735
Consumer debt is actually DECLINING right now! People can't go out to wasteful shit like clubbing and dining in the city, and they're getting so much neetbux from unemployment, that people are actually paying off their debts. Anybody who thinks the US is going to collapse over this is an idiot who needs to turn off CNN or CTH or where-ever they get this fantasy fakenews.

[Anonymous No.16065769]

>>16065636
>bidens reelection campaign will burn down America
Retard

[Anonymous No.16065787]

>>16065768
40-50% of renting tenants cant pay rent and would be evicted if the federal government wasn't protecting them right now. Is that sustainable?

[Anonymous No.16065796]

>>16065787
That doesn't make sense. Unemployment isn't even at 50%.

[Anonymous No.16065803]

>>16063210
What was your dissertation on?

[Anonymous No.16065812]

>>16065578
>you got them coming already from the south
Latinos will save this country from itself, mark my words.

[Anonymous No.16065814]

>>16065670
I guess it's splitting hairs at that point. Being worked to the point that you want to kill yourself assembling Apple Iphones in a Foxconn factory isn't my definition of improving the lives of people. That said, China's economic reforms have brought more Chinese out of poverty faster than probably any government program in history.

>>16065742
There's a point where the term "socialism" just becomes meaningless. If socialism is the public ownership of the means of production, which is like saying water is H20, then China isn't socialist. 80% of businesses are privately owned including the huge tech companies that rake in billions. Granted the CEOs and founders of these companies are kept under the CCP's thumb and removed at any moment, but legally speaking they own their companies.

The only undeniable socialistic attribute of modern China is that private ownership of land is outlawed. You can only buy rights to use land with up to 70 year leases. But who actually owns the land then? Not the people but the CCP.

[Anonymous No.16065821]

>>16063143
I think he's talking in the general sesne. Individual modern chinese and japanese have no ill feeling to each other, 2 more generations and it'll be the way it is with europe, germans, french, poles getting along.

[Anonymous No.16065827]

>>16065812
Democrats think if the second Hispanics become 50% they can finally transform the US into Venezuela, but I think they're going to be in for a rude surprise what's going to happen. More likely abortion will be banned. Ha.

[Anonymous No.16065829]

>>16065814
>brought more Chinese out of poverty
more people in general, more accurately

[Anonymous No.16065836]

>>16065803
Heh, I'm not gonna doxx myself but all I'm gonna say is think small, super small. Even smaller.
Or look at pic :)

[Anonymous No.16065839]

>>16065796
If a family is living paycheck to paycheck and 1 person loses their job the entire family may be be unable to pay rent. If someone owns a small business and rents but now is unable to open fully due to regulations, they may be unable to pay rent while still being employed. Life is more dynamic than you're making it out to be.

[Anonymous No.16065842]

>>16065814
>but who actually owns the land then? Not the people but the CCP.

Classic case of "oriental despotism"!

[Anonymous No.16065845]

>>16062634
No it doesnt. American culture is so ubiquitous in the entire world that it has become impossible to conceive of a world without it.

[Anonymous No.16065853]

>>16065839
If a family is living paycheck to paycheck and one partner loses their job, then they hit the jackpot cuz the neetbux flowing out of the federal government probably doubled their income.

[Anonymous No.16065854]

>>16065845
Wut? I must have forgotten that the world before the founding of America had no culture.

[Anonymous No.16065857]

>People thinking that economic success equals some form of "rise"
>People completely oblivious to the extreme rot within China
It's the same as in the West, yet somehow people turn a blind eye to it in China.

[Anonymous No.16065868]

>>16062842
>It's all fake. That's the entire fucking point.
I'm interested in what you mean by this.

[Anonymous No.16065873]

>>16065857
Just look at how trash all the AI papers coming out of China are. So overrated.

[Anonymous No.16065874]

>>16062634
Aside from Cantonese cinema when it was still British the only cultural thing out of modern China that I have enjoyed is Pangzai.

[Anonymous No.16065885]

>>16065814
>who actually owns the land then? Not the people but the CCP.
CCP IS the people

[Anonymous No.16065892]

>>16065842
china is a democracy anon

[Anonymous No.16065900]

>>16065868
us economy doesn't produce anything. money is made by moving it around, "investing"

[Anonymous No.16065904]

>>16064738
>China existed

The current China has nothing to do with the China of a hundred years ago, let alone a thousand and has been wracked, divided up, conquered, destroyed, remade constantly during that period. The myth of one long continuous Han culture and society for 4000 years is just that. A myth.

[Anonymous No.16065905]

>>16065120
Modern day china is just fascism. Commies keep supporting them because theyre braindead and have no idea what their ideology really is.

[Anonymous No.16065911]

>>16065885
China consists exclusively of chain smoking 70 year old male bureaucrats?

[Anonymous No.16065926]

>>16065911
It also consists 30 year old princelings who run people over with European luxury cars and face no consequences

[Anonymous No.16065927]

>>16065911
yes

[Anonymous No.16065934]

>>16065926
>>16065911
comrade xi is dealing with the corruption problem

[Anonymous No.16065938]

>>16065836
It's about your penis?

[Anonymous No.16065940]

>>16062968
>The US was never imperialist
country that has military bases all around the globe is not imperialist

[Anonymous No.16065943]

>>16065905
No, it's not fascism. It's national socialism.

1. It believes in a single Chinese people and believes they're the master race/rightful rulers
2. It believes that the Chinese people, the CCP and the Chinese state are all one entity.
3. All business must adhere to party policy and above a certain level have party members on their board and be owned by the party.
4. No dissent can be allowed and people who do are non-harmonious and against the Chinese people.

[Anonymous No.16065946]

>>16065938
yes

[Anonymous No.16065947]

>>16065940
not when they exist at the country's request

[Anonymous No.16065949]

>>16065938
how will he ever recover

[Anonymous No.16065951]

>inflation is fake news, we can keep printing money indefinitely

[Anonymous No.16065955]

>>16065943
What is the difference between fascism and national socialism? The distinctions between them are very blurry.
>>16065947
Oi m8, you dont want goons coming up and hanging round ya store, right? Just pay us and we'll make sure that doesn't happen, *wink*

[Anonymous No.16065960]

>>16065955
Fascism focuses on a strong network of syndacalist thought and emphasises nationality over race with all people loyal to the state which exists to serve the people. National Socialism sees the race of a nation as the main body and the party an expression of that race's ideas and beliefs and the means through which it controls the state.

[Anonymous No.16065963]

I for one welcome our new overlords

[Anonymous No.16065968]

>>16065951
>reducing the amount of money people owe on their debts while increasing the amount of taxes rich people have to pay when liquidating their stocks

Inflation was been below the 2% target for like a decade, if anything we need more inflation, and this "crisis" gives us the perfect excuse to do it

[Anonymous No.16065969]

>>16065947
This is the lie American's tell themselves to cope with being an imperialist shithole?

[Anonymous No.16065976]

>>16065969
When Trump moved some troops out of Germany recently the Germans whined like a bitch.

[Anonymous No.16065981]

>>16065947
you know, romans were always invited by the people they then conquered. caesar was not pursuing an imperial war of conquest, he was invited by his aedui allies to protect them from the german menace.
same thing with americans, they are only protecting their allies desu

[Anonymous No.16065983]

>>16065963
That's a 4/10 face by asian standard tho.

[Anonymous No.16065985]

>>16065963
who is she, how can I marry her and are there pics of her feet on the internet

[Anonymous No.16065990]

>>16065873
all AI papers are trash: ADD MORE LAYERS!

[Anonymous No.16065992]

>>16065985
Female drone #4545968-C, Batch nr. 4445-C

[Anonymous No.16065994]

>>16065992
c-can I buy one?

[Anonymous No.16066000]

>>16065994
No
Also why would you when the European model is superior

[Anonymous No.16066002]

>>16065990
>Tweak some parameters to overfit the data, and no you can't see the code, but here is some math spam!

[Anonymous No.16066005]

>>16065558
>Han-Supremacist
Imagine thinking this when there's literally the most explicit affirmative action for ethnic minorities in China, who also didn't fall under the one-child policy that lasted decades past.

[Anonymous No.16066008]

>>16066002
t. mathlet

[Anonymous No.16066013]

>>16066005
>Affirmative action means you get to go to the exclusive concentration camp that even Han chinks dont have access to!
How noble of them

[Anonymous No.16066017]

>>16066008
only a mathlet would be impressed by mathy papers, you just played yaself

[Anonymous No.16066025]

Consider the case of Jack Ma, the humane face of Chinese capitalism. Though he denies accepting government startup funds, he is the golden boy of the new economy. Complete with an inspiring origin story ("no one would hire me, even at a fast food restaurant"), humanitarian aspirations (Ma is one of the biggest supporters of environmental conservation in the world and retired early to dedicate himself to philanthropy), and an accessible, cute, frank public persona, if China could produce more representatives like Ma it would have an ideological secret weapon. He transcends Chinese insularity and creates a favorable public image of the new China.

[Anonymous No.16066036]

>>16063196
To be honest nobody wants to be on mutts side too. Its just that euro politicians are perma cucked and lack tthe balls to tell them to fuck off

[Anonymous No.16066041]

>>16066017
fucking pajeets I swear.
stick to programming website buttons and leave the science to those who actually understand it

[Anonymous No.16066042]

There are no Uyghur deathcamps.
They're schools and vocation centres that are aimed at the undedicated who're prone to radicalisation.

The Xinjiang "problem" is a US ploy to destabilise BRI by stirring shit in the province China ships wares through by land.
Don't fall for it.

[Anonymous No.16066051]

>>16066025
is this the modern lei feng

[Anonymous No.16066055]

>>16065976
No, they know that they were occupied since the end of the 2nd world war and they found out that they have been betrayed by the US. Only the german government has a small problem with them leaving that is that they need to account their budget for this case now

[Anonymous No.16066060]

>>16066025
Ma only had a Western style CEO cult of personality built around himself because he was coached by western VCs who had ownership stake in the Ali IPO and knew it needed more mythology,

[Anonymous No.16066073]

>>16066025
>Manlet who names his company after some sandnigger
cuck

[Anonymous No.16066081]

>>16061894
What's your favorite Chinese lit? Better get used to their cultural supremacy.

[Anonymous No.16066102]

>>16066081
I liked 3 kingdoms series is the book any good?
also are the records of the grand historian worth rading?

[Anonymous No.16066138]

>>16066081
>implying China has any culture left
Not even being smug, the Cultural Revolution completely annihilate it.
Looking back on it, Mao really sabotaged and maimed China far more than any foreign power ever could've done.

[Anonymous No.16066164]

>>16066042
Yeah, the West’s pearl clutching over the Uighurs is so laughably hypocritical that I am surprised journalists can deliver these stories with a straight face. The West’s epiphany that Muslims deserve human rights is highly suspect, given that the US has been rampaging through the Muslim world for a generation.

[Anonymous No.16066170]

>>16066138
reciting the little red book all day is a culture of sorts...

[Anonymous No.16066188]

>>16066170
He tried to copy Islam. He said "Mohammed, with a sword in one hand and a book in the other, conquered half the world" or something like that

[Anonymous No.16066225]

>>16066188
based mao

[Anonymous No.16066371]

>>16066013
You clearly only get your news about China from headlines lol.

[Anonymous No.16066410]

>>16066371
>There are no concentration camps, just believe me
sure

[Anonymous No.16066415]

>>16066410
saddam had wmds just trust me bro

[Anonymous No.16066426]

it's hilarious how yankees lap up state propaganda and then have the audacity to claim that the chinese are the mindless bugmen

[Anonymous No.16066505]

>>16066415
>but what about
real vatnik posting hours

[Anonymous No.16066536]

>>16066138
Culture is ordinary, not just works of art. Get ready for a brutal, artless wasteland defined by absolute acquiescence to state authority backed by Orwellian surveillance technology that has infiltrated every facet of life. That's the culture of the Chinese century.

[Anonymous No.16066542]

>>16064109
Ah yes, the tested and true Marxist ad-hoc expansion of definitions to satisfy conclusions.

[Anonymous No.16066580]

>>16066505
americans have a long history of lying to start wars.
spanish american war started with a lie about a sunken ship, and so did vietnam. with irak it was wmds. with china it's uighurs.

I don't want you fuckers destroying another country just because you have to distract yourself of the niggers that are burning your own.

also if you use that word again I will find you and and rape you and your entire family to death

[Anonymous No.16066592]

>>16066542
the us doesn't need to directly annex other countries. much better to control them through (((banks))).

[Anonymous No.16066630]

>>16061894
>It's over.
It's not.

[Anonymous No.16066662]

>>16066630
whats this and how is it relevant

[Anonymous No.16066702]

>>16061894
>China and America are world powers without serious rivals. They eye each other warily across the Pacific; they communicate poorly; there seems little natural empathy. A massive geopolitical contest has begun.

America prizes freedom; China values freedom from chaos.
America values strategic decisiveness; China values patience.
America is becoming society of lasting inequality; China a meritocracy.
America has abandoned multilateralism; China welcomes it.

That's the write-up for the book. Pretty obvious that Kishore is a retard. Peer conflicts aren't decided by communication, empathy, values, or cultural differences. Cold War 2 will be decided in the same way Cold War 1 was: nuclear standoff, economic efficiency, proxy wars, resource conflicts and alliance construction.

[Anonymous No.16066707]

>>16066410
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37454697

[Anonymous No.16066744]

>>16066702
>cold war 2
you american niggers overestimate yourself

[Anonymous No.16066770]

>>16066744
Not american, try again and this time put an actual argument in your post if you can.

[Anonymous No.16066814]

>>16066702
>China a meritocracy
>A country where Xi got rid of term limits and directly appoints the people he wants to be in power
>A country that openly arrests any troublemakers or people they deem are undesirable
>A country that steals IP and research from other nations and insists that they came up with these ideas and are being unfairly persecuted
ok chink

[Anonymous No.16066828]

>>16066814
That's Kishore's perspective, not mine.

[Anonymous No.16066835]

>>16066662
Zeihan is a geopolitical strategist.

[Anonymous No.16066850]

>>16066835
Hyped for the millionth collapse of China since the 90s.

[Anonymous No.16066862]

>>16066850
Not sure about the others, but the statements about diplomatic situation and birthrates are both correct. Im actually shocked that they managed to antagonize so many nations in 2020.

[Anonymous No.16066892]

>>16066850
Those predictions are mostly based around economics, this is more based around demographics and international politics.

[Anonymous No.16066897]

>>16066862
>I'm actually shocked that they managed to antagonize so many nations in 2020.
There's a reason why all other Asian nations despise them, the funny thing is that they thought they could just make new friends in the West without changing their horrible culture and attitude.

[Anonymous No.16067098]

>>16061894
Who even reads shitty books like this? From the title and shitty cover art alone I can tell the author is a retarded pseud just writing something in order to get paid.

[Anonymous No.16067108]

>>16066835
what a hack

[Anonymous No.16067787]

>>16062591
My nigga dropping them dune references

[Anonymous No.16067790]

>>16062168
American culture is fracturing and contradicting itself more and more with each passing year. Chinese culture is kept solid at gunpoint.