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16042723 No.16042723 [Reply] [Original]

So far, I've read
>For whom the bell tolls
>The Sun also rises
>The Old man and the Sea
>A farewell to arms
I'm becoming more and more a fan of his. HIs life also seems interesting, but I haven't read any serious, biographical work on it.

What's your opinion on his life and work? Also, Hemingway general.

>> No.16042729
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16042729

I am unironically following this chart. Alothough I alternate authors between these.

>> No.16042785

>>16042723
Hemingway is very comfy, OP. Sometimes I feel like I'm not really in the mood for his super direct, simple Iceberg theory style, but he has a way of capturing melancholy that really keeps me going back to him.

In terms of his biography, I love his friendship/rivalry with Fitzgerald and to see how these men that nurtured such great respect for one another had such different approaches to their craft and the way that they perceived it.

>> No.16043091

>>16042785
>simple Iceberg theory style
What was that about?

>> No.16043126

>>16043091
Hemingway's style was very simple. He focused only on the superficial (like the tip of the iceberg being visible) while omitting things that are given or that can be left to interpretation. He is truly a minimalistic writer in this regard.

>> No.16043144

>>16042729
There should be some mention of his short stories in that chart. More of the same Hemmmingway, except shorter.

>> No.16043480

>>16042723

If you want to admire EH more, read the best short stories (they're the ones everyone says are the best).

If you want to dislike him, read Death In The Afternoon.

If you read DITA and *still* don't dislike him, paint your bathroom wall with a shotgun.

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>>16042723
i love hemingway so much ;-;

>> No.16044047

>>16042723
The only published author who survived two plane crashes in one day.

Also: read "Big Two-Hearted River"

>> No.16044846

>>16043126
Gotcha. Thanks

>> No.16044855

>>16043480
>If you want to dislike him, read Death In The Afternoon.
I really liked this. It's a subject I have absolutely no interest in bullfighting, but he managed to make it intriguing and broaden my views on it.

>> No.16044953

>>16042723
>biographical work on it
Are there any good ones?

>> No.16045173

>>16044953
I know that recently they have published a book about him actually being a sort of a spy, didn't read it yet, but I guess he was recruited by the Soviets during his time in Spanish Civil war, the book seems pretty expensive, I guess it was meant to be a bestseller

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16045185

seriously underrated hemingway title right here. hate that it gets less recognition than islands in the stream which has a similar setting but feels like a steven seagal movie.

>> No.16045192

I liked For Whom the Bell Tolls. I really liked the Old Man and the Sea. I hated the Sun Also Rises. But I most enjoyed his short stories.

>> No.16045226

>>16043091
So this >>16043126 is the practical gist of it but the older I get the more I realize how eccentric it actually is: if you read A Movable Feast you realize he really thought that whatever the author knew would be transmitted and concealed on the page, the sentence being the literal tip of the iceberg, the actual mass being buried beneath the surface. Which is a pretty crazy epistemic take on craft and intentionality. But not at all surprising when you look at who he was hanging out with— hell, Gertrude Stein had some radical ideas about language. Really, I appreciate him more and more for what he had to say about craft, the author having to warm up and metaphors to athleticism and stuff like that.

>> No.16045644

>>16045185
Quick rundown?

>> No.16045841

>>16045644
for whom the bell tolls shows us how we need to see our selves as a community and that communist revolutionaries are the most divided and impossible to work with. our main character in that book wasn't someone with much stake in their own well being so it was easy for him to give everything up for a cause and become the perfect selfless hero the revolutionaries failed to live up to. in to have and have not we instead have a hero with a full family to look after and every reason to put his needs before others. this makes for the much more compelling story as the viewpoint the author disagrees with is first built up to seem as rational as it could be before taken apart and shown to be unsustainable.

>> No.16045925

>>16045841
Cool. And what is it about?

>> No.16045937

>>16045925
oh, a badass smuggler from the florida keys.

>> No.16046145

>>16045937
Sounds about right