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Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2020 23:51:02 No.16042002 [Reply] [Original]

Just finished pic related, why is it bad to be a nazi again? This seemed pretty based and I think Hitler was probably right to follow it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2020 23:52:37 No.16042009 >>16042002 What?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2020 23:54:47 No.16042024 >>16042002 Yes. National socialism is good. Normies have been brainwashed into two camps: hating nazis, and hating socialists. This is so people don't realize national socialism is good.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2020 23:57:51 No.16042038 >>16042009 Is there any anti-fascist ltierature that refutes the Communist Manifesto?

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 00:03:03 No.16042055
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Another classic argument for national socialism. This knowledge has been hidden from the world by the contortion of the word "republic" to something barely removed from a democracy. Read this book for the truth

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 00:03:56 No.16042059 >>16042038 World history

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 00:17:33 No.16042144 >>16042002 Both communism and nazism are products of globalists, Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and Hitler were sponsored by the wealthiest bankers of Europe and the US, apparently some of those sponsors are the same for both sides.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 00:41:53 No.16042285 >>16042009 t. brainlet

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 00:58:32 No.16042365 >>16042024 What is good about national socialism?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:03:46 No.16042398 >>16042365 Reorienting the state towards the interest of the nation rather than the corporation, and expressing that orientation through an effective praxis that doesn't simply nationalize private assets and run them into the ground.

>>	crevat :333 Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:06:38 No.16042407 >>16042002 hitler was a beady eyed jew

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:06:43 No.16042409 >>16042398 as long as you guys promise to not kill any jews we can be friends : )

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:09:25 No.16042426
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>>16042144
Not entirely for Hitler, he's the one who gathered the top German capitalists and told them if he dosent win the communist will and they'll kill you all. So then those German capitalists who backed Hitler called up their wallstreet buddies who also sent them money to fund Hitler per request of the German capitalists. People like to use that argument to make Hitler seem like a puppet when he literally played the top German industrialists into fear porn lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:11:40 No.16042438 >>16042409 Jews?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:29:32 No.16042509 >>16042038 what does this even mean?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:34:25 No.16042527 >>16042509 Real national socialism achieves the goals set forth in the communist manifesto.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:37:26 No.16042549 >>16042527 this but unironically

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:37:52 No.16042550

>>16042527
so a dictatorship of the proletariat and the building of a stateless, classless society? the exercising of the principle of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" in conjunction with an abundance of goods? national socialism doesn't have fucking anything to do with communism, except in name

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 01:41:46 No.16042570 >>16042409 Who?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 02:06:13 No.16042681 >>16042024 "National Socialism" is a misnomer. "National Capitalism" is more apt.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 02:08:09 No.16042695 >>16042681 The existence of bourgeoisie and capital does not alone capitalism make. Fascism, like feudalism, was an entirely different mode of production.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 02:08:59 No.16042696 >>16042695 The property structure stays basically the same

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 02:28:29 No.16042788 >>16042055 The Guardiams in this book are not capitalist and have no private property. This book is Pol Pot NazBol level.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 02:30:33 No.16042792

>>16042695
>The existence of bourgeoisie and capital does not alone capitalism make.
While this ^ is maybe strictly true, please explain how fascism was a different mode of production. State control/"state-oriented" capitalist production is still capitalist production.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 02:35:41 No.16042812 >>16042792 The state is inherently Capitalist and will have a capitalistic mode of production regardless of ideology.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 02:38:22 No.16042821 >>16042812 False. Look at the Eastern Bloc and North Korea and Khmer Rouge. Also any monarchist state ever. Hell, even modern Iran.

>>	jesus Tue, Aug 4, 2020 03:07:11 No.16042952 >>16042002 you are idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 03:11:13 No.16042966 >>16042821 Their is no such thing a state socialism, and Im pretty sure feudalism is basically proto capitalism

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 03:18:45 No.16042999

>>16042426
Those German capitalists who backed Hitler called were literary raised by globalists that's primarily a financial and industrial backstage with the well-known names of Morgans, Warburgs, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc. It was through the efforts of these financial capital gates that two plans were created. One of them was called the Dawes Plan (1924), the other was called the Young Plan (1930), which provided for the rise of industrial potential of Germany and led to the power of revanchist forces in order to create a punch fist in Germany against the USSR. Giant financial resources were being pumped in there. For example, according to Dawes plan, more than 4 billion dollars of that time were invested in the German economy. Similar amounts were pumped into the German economy and according to the plan of Young. In 1931, the famous Bank for International Settlements in Basel was established, through which the purchase of shares of all major industrial companies in Germany began. It was during this period, for example, that the entire oil refining industry, production of synthetic gasoline, etc. began to be owned by the American company Standard Oil, owned by J. Rockefeller. And 100% of shares of the famous car concern "Volkswagen" were controlled by the American company "Ford". Before the beginning of the Second World War, 280 largest German firms were in one way or another completely under the control of the Anglo-American industrial capital.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 03:23:42 No.16043021

>>16042812
This doesn't mean anything. If I were to guess what you were trying to say, I would respond that states can be 'state capitalist', i.e. use labour for production for profit, but the society which the state is associated with does not always have to have a capitalist mode of production. Just look at the USSR, etc. etc. Please read a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 03:25:14 No.16043027 >>16042144 national socialism and stalinism were explicitly anti-globalist

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 03:29:34 No.16043042 >>16042999 >Before the beginning of the Second World War, 280 largest German firms were in one way or another completely under the control of the Anglo-American industrial capital. source for this? because it sounds insane if true

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 03:30:55 No.16043047

>>16042550
Except that it literally does. Land use is overseen for the benefit of the nation instead of the capitalist. Taxes are as progressive as we will them. One-dimensional "property rights" are discarded, hoarding and inheritance are curbed in the national interest. How exactly do you plan on achieving a classless society without implementing these measures?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2020 03:56:00 No.16043141 This thread was moved to >>>/pol/271046661

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