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POST HERE YOUR QUESTIONS THAT DON'T DESERVE THEIR OWN THREAD:
>Books with X theme?
>What am I in for?
>What was his/her problem?
>Books like X?
>Do I need to read X to understand Y?
>other questions I can't think of right now

This is an experiment, /lit/ is complaining lately.
I think this could help the board quality overall.
Direct all questions that in your opinion don't deserve their own thread to here.
Keep this thread open if you like to help fellow anons out with their questions.
Turning this in a general avoids newfags asking those same questions over and over again.
Also other repetitive posts that don't really need their own thread can be directed here.

Feel free to discuss your thoughts about this becoming a general and maybe improve the template, and save it on our wiki so we could easily copy paste.

>> No.16038265
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should i have read the bible before reading moby dick? i didn't like moby dick and someone said it is because i haven't read the bible.

>> No.16038290

>>16038265
Yes.

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I don't think i've ever felt more vulnerable that when i read this interaction between a unsympathetic girl being nice to a shy man.
I've had many "friendships" like that and i've never thought about them like that until i read this.
What can i read to overcome this feeling? i've been unable to read more or think of anything else since yesterday, when i first read it.

>> No.16038365

Did anyone leave behind a career in STEM for something more /lit/ related? How did it go?

I'm talking people who left programming, yes, but also engineers, math/science grad students, etc.

>> No.16038379

>>16038248
Does IJ get better? I'm 115 pg. in and everything about it feels incredibly lame. The subsidized year thing is nowhere near funny, the encyclopedic drug stuff is boomer as fuck, the supposedly futuristic technology feels incredibly dated and shortsighted, half the sentences have awkward 'naturalistic' garden path structures with no flow, the ten page filmography endnote is a shitty parody that goes on too long, and he keeps referring to characters' "bottom"s in a way that makes me uncomfortable. There are enough little sections that make me want to keep going, and I was predisposed to like it (I liked Good Old Neon and I've seen End of the Tour twice), but does it get better? Does the conspiratorial plot go anywhere interesting?

>> No.16038386

>>16038248
what did i do to deserve to suffer like this

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>>16038386

>> No.16038453

>>16038365
don't do it man
read in your free time or when you are in your 60's

>> No.16038465

Test

>> No.16038512

>>16038265
If you didn’t like it at all I doubt reading the Bible will change it. That being said it’s worth reading the Bible regardless.

>> No.16038525

>>16038248
Okay reddit

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>>16038248
Hi. Will converting a PDF file to MOBI make it more manageable to read on my Kindle? Or should I just dig around for a MOBI file instead

>> No.16038551

>>16038248
I love how this posts makes redditors seethe and try to shitpost more

>> No.16038553

>>16038379
It peaks around page 600-700. I'd suggest reading some supplementary material with it. The plot will start making some sense near the 70% point.

>> No.16038565

>>16038379
not op. haven't read it won't read it. any morsel of comedy will fall flat due to high expectations. and because that work seems to be predicated on outlandishness and overthetopness it would ruin the whole experience --- for me. ill just stick with his ''short stories''

>> No.16038636

Getting into philosophy and literature as a whole is overwhelming as fuck. When does it stop being so intimidating

>> No.16038643

>>16038636
It doesn't
it just gets more specific

>> No.16038648

>>16038636
Never.

>> No.16038655

>>16038512
i want to read the bible, but is there secondary material i can read alongside it that will help me understand what i am reading?

>> No.16038656

What do people actually mean when they say great literature?

>> No.16038670

>>16038656
9/10 people you hear say this IRL will literally mean Harry Potter

>> No.16038683

>>16038365
I left a software engineering degree for a philosophy degree and I just completed my first year.
I don't regret it one bit. The major advantages of switching are:

1. I'm studying something I like, obviously.

2. The teachers are much cooler and have a diverse range of interests including literature, film, history etc. which you can talk with them about

3. Much closer personal relationships with the teachers, I've even had dinner at the house of one of them

4. The other students are also much cooler. I mean seriously, engineering students are usually autistic, never go out, and have extremely narrow interests (aka games and computers). In my class there's plenty of people who are into politics, music and literature and other sorts of things

5. I'll hopefully get to do something I like in the future

The obvious downside is that it's much easier to get a job with a STEM degree as opposed to a philosophy degree.

But if you are the best in your class you have pretty decent chances of eventually finding a career in the field. I'm close to publishing a peer reviewed paper and I've had more than one teacher heavily incentivize me to go into research.

I'll conclude by saying that you really have to be the best if you want to go into the humanities. The world needs mediocre engineers but not mediocre philosophers. However, if you're motivated, read primary sources, and read consistently, you can easily do better than the competition, since most of the smart kids are in STEM anyway.

>> No.16038704

>>16038655
I don’t know about specific books but there’s tons and tons of material you can find just by googling.

>> No.16038708

>>16038525
We didn’t need this thread prior to lockdown and the recent influx of newfags who clearly have have no respect for board culture that coincidentally arrived just after a bunch of subreddits closed. Seething because you know your threads are meaningless and only serve to give you a temporary dopamine high doesn’t change that

>> No.16038714

>>16038683
>5. I'll hopefully get to do something I like in the future
What do you supposed this will be, with a philosophy degree?

>> No.16038724

>>16038708
I had a hunch /r/cumtown was mucking up the board.

>> No.16038727

>>16038714
being a professor and doing research, obviously.

>> No.16038754

>>16038708
>board culture
Is it the moment where one posts basedjack?

>> No.16038763

>>16038656
it soars with creativity and discernible talent

>> No.16038766

>>16038683
>4. The other students are also much cooler. I mean seriously, engineering students are usually autistic, never go out, and have extremely narrow interests (aka games and computers). In my class there's plenty of people who are into politics, music and literature and other sorts of things
Can confirm. CS fucks are the very definition of bugmen. In my final year of CS I wanted to blow my fucking brains out every time I was at the university. Having to be around those narrow-minded, shallow drones was truly horrifying. I did not even attend to graduation, I could not endure this cringe overdose anymore. Took my diploma a couple weeks later.
There were some cool Math professors though, but most of the other teachers in the field-related topic were morons.

>> No.16038771

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIF74lH4KPM

>>16038656
Childhood is harping on the canon for being arbitrary, adulthood is realizing that fat faggot Bloom was right and there really are perennial works of art that speak to the souls of all men across all epochs, beyond just reflecting the epoch that produced them (that is just an integral part of it)

Smug retards who read plateau with modern midwit literature will never know the joy of reading Shakespeare and wondering whether he had literal divine inspiration

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What the heck was his problem?

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>>16038831

>> No.16038868

>>16038248
I really liked stranger by albert camus. Would anyone suggest books with similiar vibe?

>> No.16038882

>>16038708
Kek
If you really cared about “board culture” you would just do what /fit/ does and make it board culture to abuse anyone that doesn’t read the sticky.
Instead you try to corral all the conversation into one thread which is fucking stupid.
Nobody wants to read 6 replies about The Great Gatsby and Ancient Egypt in between their question about JD Salinger and the answer

>> No.16038906

>>16038882
I am sorry but great gatsby is boring as fuck. Why the fuck people even like that shit.

>> No.16038911

>>16038290
>>16038512
Not that anon but i want to ask
Should we read all the bible? Can someone tell us which books

>> No.16038915

>>16038906
Absolute state of this subreddit

>> No.16038924
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>>16038248
What Upanishad do I start with?

>> No.16038943

>>16038911
Yes, of course. The Bible is probably the most influental text of all time, and definitely of the Western Canon. I’d say read it all, but that might just be me being autistic.

>> No.16038948

Do you get better at writing fiction just by writing fiction?

>> No.16038964
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>>16038265
I'm biased because I just read the Old Testament and I'm incredibly excited to read Moby Dick now as a result, but I would recommend it if you can stomach it. Just know that it's a commitment if you want to read the whole thing.

Try breaking it up into chunks. Read the Pentateuch at least, but keep in mind that big chunks of it you're going to skim. Genesis and Exodus are great, but Levicitus-Numbers-Deuteronomy have large sections that are purely records of laws. You want to read things like Moses' speech, but you will be surprised how much you just glance over.

Then look at Joshua-Judges-Samuel-Kings-Chronicles as something you just have to read almost like its own little history book of Israel. That can be a slog but stick with it. Look up Youtube videos on each book that help process them into sections. Use a pic like pic related to guide you.

Then read any major books that everyone seems to like (so you will have more motivation), like Ecclesiastes, Job, Daniel. Then you might as well read all the easier, short prophets.

Do what I do for Proverbs/Psalms and just read one or two books of each a day.

There you go, you've effectively read the entire Old Testament as 3~ smaller more digestible books. The New Testament is easier. I read the King James, but I recommend Robert Alter if you aren't into that.

For side readings, you should know that the history and archaeology of ancient Israel is in flux right now. Israel Finkelstein is an extreme minimalist who says that nothing in the book is really accurate to history, but this view is giving way fast as new discoveries are made and people are less terrorized into minimalism for the sake of minimalism. I did a lot of side reading, unsystematically and bit by bit, and got as much from Youtube lectures as I did from books. Because the consensus is changing so rapidly I can't recommend any one book but I can recommend fishing around and getting a feel for the archaeology. And for the region. Here are some ones I liked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnNqu7RN9Z8&list=PL49208CAE353159FA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8letIrov_Ds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJOju5Dw0V0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4VWcpmOBag

>> No.16038971

>>16038766
I majored in math. It's kind of a half-open secret that people in math (and some in physics) jibe more with the humanities. Obviously you get some sperginess but it's not really the base kind you get with the would-be Googlers and the Musk-gargling engineers.

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Repost from last thread that archived.

Do any anons know of a good resource to better understand long sentences with multiple clauses? I often have trouble when reading something like pic-related, or Shakespeare, or Melville, or Faulkner, where I don't exactly know how each part of the sentence relates to each other part. For example, in pic related I understand each section that is separated by colons in themselves but I don't know exactly how they relate to one another. In my mind, the section that starts "for happening, ..." makes sense in itself but should be followed by a statement of what actions the narrator carries out based on the fact that he is a "fiddler and a painter". But the sentence appears to end and another sentence starts "Be it known to you,..." which makes no sense to me. Am I being too autistic with this? Like I said, I do understand the overall sense of what is being said but I don't understand the structure.

Normally I imagine the commas or colons in large sentences as nested parentheses which helps to break down the structure in many instances but doesn't always work.

>> No.16038981

>>16038771
But what makes the canon great?

>> No.16039007

>>16038906
Based black anon

>> No.16039010

>>16038964
Forgot to mention in this post, the biggest slog of the OT for me was the longer/major prophets. I know some people love Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Jeremiah as the best and most literary parts of the Bible, but I just about lost my mind when I had 50 solid books of "we suck, but fuck Egypt too" to read. I would recommend breaking that into chunks (5 a day?) maybe, unless you want to just grit your teeth and barrel through them all.

However, some of the most beautiful passages were in them too.

>> No.16039014

Is it normal that Ulysses is taking me so much?
I read like a chapter a day, I started reading it on the 1st of August
I read the chapter (in my language) while i search on my own some references, people, and translation when I don’t know the language
Then I think about it
Then I read the english text alongside with the notes (on the website ulyssesproject and on the boom Ulysses annotated) and also with the text in my language
I am writing down a lot of notes with the page number of my translated edition so I’ll go faster next time i’ll go through it. Is this autistic?
But fuck, today’s chapter was a pain lol
Am I getting filtered?

>> No.16039029

>>16039014
Sounds like you're captivated by it if you're willing to do all that, isn't that a good thing?

>> No.16039031

>>16038943
Did you read all of it?
I heard that there are a lot of boring as shit parts, especially in the Old Testament

>> No.16039033

>>16038868
Kafka's The Trial

>> No.16039036

>>16038981
time

>> No.16039042

>>16038964
THANK YOU ANON <3

>> No.16039047

>>16038868
Sabato's The Tunnel

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>>16039042
woman? please ma’am post your breasts and vagina if that is indeed the case. the bible can wait

>> No.16039067

>>16039033
>>16039047
Thanks anons. Would you suggest Albert`s other works? I normally dont read much but i didnt had internet for month so had to leave my comfort zone. It is turns out i like novels.

>> No.16039072

>>16039029
A lot I would say!
But it will take much time to finish it
And I think that I won’t even get some parts

>> No.16039080

>>16039031
I’m actually still reading it, but yep I’m reading it all. And yes, some is boring as hell, but the occasional nuggets of brilliance keep me from wanting to skip anything. I just take it slow.

>> No.16039093

>>16039066
>woman?
Eh.. sometimes I wish I was lol
Life is tough

>> No.16039100

>>16038948
Bump

>> No.16039105

>>16039080
Nicee
Okay I’ll bring it up when I can!

>> No.16039118

>>16039100
Im not a writer but imo you have to read fiction first

>> No.16039123

>>16039072
For what it's worth, the people I have known in my life who really put the same time/respect into reading Ulysses as you, seemed to be deeply affected by it, like it was something they would return to and think about for the rest of their lives as a result. Two of the smartest people I've ever met too.

Go with your gut, but I'd be hard pressed to say you can go wrong with Ulysses. It seems like one of those books for the ages.

>> No.16039149

>>16039118
I’ve read a lot of classic literature and more. Although, the feeling I have towards my writing, and what’s echoed by other people is, that the ideas have potential, but the execution isn’t there.

>> No.16039176

>>16038948
>>16039149
"Nobody tells this to people who are beginners, I wish someone told me. All of us who do creative work, we get into it because we have good taste. But there is this gap. For the first couple years you make stuff, it’s just not that good. It’s trying to be good, it has potential, but it’s not. But your taste, the thing that got you into the game, is still killer. And your taste is why your work disappoints you. A lot of people never get past this phase, they quit. Most people I know who do interesting, creative work went through years of this. We know our work doesn’t have this special thing that we want it to have. We all go through this. And if you are just starting out or you are still in this phase, you gotta know its normal and the most important thing you can do is do a lot of work. Put yourself on a deadline so that every week you will finish one story. It is only by going through a volume of work that you will close that gap, and your work will be as good as your ambitions. It’s gonna take awhile. It’s normal to take awhile. You’ve just gotta fight your way through."

>> No.16039183

>>16039093
same brother

>> No.16039208

>>16039176
Who said this?

>> No.16039220

>>16039176
This was incredible to read. It’s the exact feeling I share and the experience I anticipated. Thank you for sharing the exact advice I needed anon

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someone posted this before.
what is it called?

>> No.16039268

>>16039176
>>16039220
Actually, I have another question: how often should you share this work during this period of practice? Is there any kind of criticism you shouldn’t welcome?

>> No.16039305

>>16039248
Su Hui's Star Gauge

>> No.16039342

>>16039123
Thank you anon!
Every milestone of literature affects, some just a little, other a lot, who reads it.
I think that the writers who influenced me more are Dostoevskij and Proust
Tell me more two people you know. Beside thinking about it as an achievement, how did that book change them?

>> No.16039375

>>16038379
don't bother finishing it. some of the best parts may be later in the book, but if you already find wallace's goofiness irritating, it'll be insufferable for another 900 pages

>> No.16039390

>>16039305
Thank you very much!

>> No.16039600

What fictional books would you recommend to a compulsive liar? i'm desensitized from non-fiction and only feel animosity towards it,

>> No.16039672

>>16038248
Lads, with the whole corona meme that we've got going on right now, are you still allowed to read on an airplane?

>> No.16039746

>>16039672
Yes, i did on 4 flights
Why u shouldn’t be lol

>> No.16039892

>>16038683
how hard is it really? Does it ever get super frustrating? Like on a "I feel like quitting" level?

>> No.16039927

>>16038683
don't give them hope

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Moby Chimp?

>> No.16040124

What are some books that are fun/thrilling reads but also well written? Stuff like East of Eden, Tolstoy's Prisoner of the Caucasus, Gogol's Ukrainian Tales, The Count of Monte Cristo. Basically genre fiction written by literary authors.

>> No.16040173

pls recommend me anti trans literature I hate trannies and I want to abolish their existence

>> No.16040198

>>16040173
just follow them on twitter and you'll get to see them abolish their own existence

>> No.16040231

>>16039746
Alright that's good, I was just a bit worried and that cause obviously you've got to have a mask on and that so I was wondering maybe they just don't let you take anything out right now. Especially the book that I'm reading right now, the copy is almost a hundred years old, there might be some dormant strain of smallpox or summat on there.

>> No.16040234

>>16040173
Harry Potter series.

>> No.16040461

The vision in my right eye has been rapidly deteriorating over the past two weeks. I can't focus it. I think I have a tumor. Hopefully it's terminal.

>> No.16040472

What’s the best place to start with Henry James?

>> No.16040492

>>16040124
Les miserables

>> No.16040517

>>16040492
Already read it.

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>>16040517

>> No.16040585

>>16040517
The Feast of the Goat

>> No.16040596

>>16040124
the spy who came in from the cold

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This book has been my white whale, frens. Ive scoured the internet and every library in my area. I can't find a copy of it anywhere except for Amazon for $120, and I'm not breaking open the bank to line some faggot publisher's pockets because the author has been dead for almost 70 years. I dont really have a question, just blogposting

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>>16038248
Where does one start with Wittgenstein

>> No.16040693

>>16040461
have you tried staring into the void?

>>16040173
mrs dalloway

>>16040124
good question. try the name of the rose.

>>16039600
catcher in the rye

>>16038365
i switched from philosophy to computer science so i wouldn't starve to death but ironically i'll just kill myself anyway, so it's moot

>>16038656
it means that it's studied in universities

>>16040664
read philosophical investigations, if you start with tractatus it won't mean anything

>>16040630
check libgen friend

>> No.16040696

>>16040472
Washington Square
>>16040630
Worldcat.org will tell you what libraries throughout the world have it. I just checked and some major university libraries in my area do.

>> No.16040701

>>16040664
With his late writings, not tractatus

>> No.16040735

what should I read before Spengler?

>> No.16040801

I have a Kindle Paperwhite. Is the Oasis (or the Oasis-equivalent Kobo) a significantly better reading experience? I've been reading some large paperbacks lately and I feel like the extra screen real estate would make reading easier.

>> No.16040815

>>16040801
price isn't justifiable imo

>> No.16040824

>>16038248
"I wiped the blade against my jeans and walked into the bar. It was mid-afternoon, very hot and still. The bar was deserted. I ordered a whiskey. The barman looked at the blood and asked:

‘God?’

‘Yeah.’

‘S’pose it’s time someone finished that hypocritical little punk, always bragging about his old man’s power…’

He smiled crookedly, insinuatingly, a slight nausea shuddered through me. I replied weakly:

‘It was kind of sick, he didn’t fight back or anything, just kept trying to touch me and shit, like one of those dogs that try to fuck your leg. Something in me snapped, the whingeing had ground me down too low. I really hated that sanctimonious little creep.’

‘So you snuffed him?’

‘Yeah, I’ve killed him, knifed the life out of him, once I started I got frenzied, it was an ecstasy, I never knew I could hate so much.’

I felt very calm, slightly light-headed. The whisky tasted good, vaporizing in my throat. We were silent for a few moments. The barman looked at me levelly, the edge of his eyes twitching slightly with anxiety:

There’ll be trouble though, don’tcha think?’

‘I don’t give a shit, the threats are all used up, I just don’t give a shit.’

‘You know what they say about his old man? Ruthless bastard they say. Cruel…’

‘I just hope I’ve hurt him, if he even exists.’

‘Woulden wanna cross him merself,’ he muttered.

I wanted to say ‘yeah, well that’s where we differ’, but the energy for it wasn’t there. The fan rotated languidly, casting spidery shadows across the room. We sat in silence a little longer. The barman broke first:

‘So God’s dead?’

‘If that’s who he was. That fucking kid lied all the time. I just hope it’s true this time.’

The barman worked at one of his teeth with his tongue, uneasily:

‘It’s kindova big crime though, isn’t it? You know how it is, when one of the cops goes down and everything’s dropped ’til they find the guy who did it. I mean, you’re not just breaking a law, your breaking LAW.’

I scraped my finger along my jeans, and suspended it over the bar, so that a thick clot of blood fell down into my whisky, and dissolved. I smiled:

‘Maybe it’s a big crime,’ I mused vaguely ‘but maybe it’s nothing at all…’ ‘…and we have killed him’ writes Nietzsche, but—destituted of community—I crave a little time with him on my own.

In perfect communion I lick the dagger foamed with God’s blood."

Is this peak literature????

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What mindset do I need to take to endure a >600 pages book?

>> No.16040836

>>16040693
Libgen is always my first stop

>>16040696
Do unis lend to anyone? I'm in the US if that matters. Thanks though, will peep

>> No.16040874

>>16038379
Consider The Lobster is peak DFW; IJ is pure hamster wheel.

>> No.16040897

>>16038656
they mostly mean technically deft prose, which is of course comprised of strong vernacular and skillful grammar.

desu as long as the prose is great, the story itself is immaterial.

>> No.16040982

>>16040828
If you read for your ego you will have a hard time enjoying it. I have read 15 books in the past 30 days and I know the page counts for none of them.
>endure
Shit is supposed to be fun homie. Unless you're reading challenging nonfiction, then it's tough but worthwhile.

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What language and book is this?

>> No.16041018

Question:
Is listening to audiobooks (instead of reading the book yourself) the plebeian approach to consuming literature?

Can I say I’ve read a book if I’ve digested the audiobook?

Why or why not?

>> No.16041023

>>16038265
>i didn't like moby dick
How

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Ok, here i go.
>Definition: nothing is any bladeless knife with missing handle.
>Definition: a symbol is something, instead of nothing. It is only understood by it's using.
>Definition: A sign is also a symbol.
>Let:
>A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y and Z, the main upper case characters of the latin script.
>Let:
>a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y and z, the main lower case characters of the latin script.
>Together, lower and upper case lead to the next definition:
>Definition: the system of both upper and lower case latins scripts is called the Latin alphabet.
>Note: Is unavoidable the circularity when declaring the latin alphablet? The sigs L, D, e, t, f, i, n, t, o found in "Let" and "Definition" were used in beforehand.
>Note: Can any declaration of the natural numbers using signs be circular, because of the notion of sign already presupponing that of number?
>Definition: concatanation of latin scripts is any juxtaposition of signs in the latin alphabet system.
>Note: Isn't the last definition circular as it consists of words?
>Definition: a word is any concatanation of latin scripts.
>Note: definition of single words leads to the dictionary paradox.
How can one be any formal at all? How can one have systemic understanding of anything? I don't know answers to the notes.

>> No.16041028

I have a friend who is an aspiring novelist but every time he writes a story he always has to insert his best james joyce impression and monologues for 10 pages and then quits, how do I help him stop being such an autistic faggot?

>> No.16041033

>>16041018
You won't understand or retain it as well as you could if you read it. For entertainment it's fine, for /lit/ dick measuring contests it's not

>> No.16041035

>>16041028
Don't underestimate the power of violence.

>> No.16041041

>>16041018
Its fine anon. I switch off between the audiobook version and my Kindle so that I can "read" while doing chores around the house.

However, I usually only do this with fiction. You won't be able to sufficiently engage with nonfiction.

>> No.16041044

>>16041035
I'm about to just start ignoring him, it's been five years of trying to get him to actually sit down and write something, but all he does is talk about being a writer, when he's never finished a short story in his entire life.

>> No.16041059

>>16041018
audiobook or not, you haven't digested something unless you write an essay about it, or at least take close reading notes every chapter.

that being said, it depends if you're reading for fun or not, and if you'll need to back up that you read something to other people/how much you personally can absorb from the audio.

>>16041025
try foundations of logic or set theory instead

>>16041044
enami-kun?

>>16041041
wrong, it's more important to pay close attention to the words in literary fiction so you can understand the diction, sentence structure, metre if applicable, and lit devices.

>> No.16041072

>>16041033
>>16041041
>>16041059
Appreciated.

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>>16041059
>try foundations of logic or set theory instead
>pic related

>> No.16041122

Where can I download wang huning’s America against America? Or any of his works for that matter? They aren’t on libgen, pdf library, or z library. It’s like he’s banned in the us.

>> No.16041153

I was wondering if Phenomenology of Spirit is a good place to start for philosophy, besides a bit of Nietzsche I read a few years ago

>> No.16041185

>>16041153
I would heavily discourage this. I tried it myself, worked hours and hours. Then I read the prolegomena to any future metaphysics and realized my interpretation of the book had been total nonsense. Just start with the Greeks: it’s a meme for a reason.

>> No.16041299

>>16040693
Why Mrs. Dalloway?

>> No.16041407

>>16038924
>>16041153
start with the greeks
>>16040173
>>16040664
mein kampf
>>16040461
hopefully
>>16041018
audiobooks are only good while driving
>>16041028
just tell him it's trash
>>16038386
you're a nigger, Harry
>>16038465
kys
>>16038532
how about you stop being a poorfag instead?
>>16038636
when you realize that everybody is a pseud
except for Nietzsche of course
>>16038656
good shit that stays good regardless of the era

>> No.16041423

>>16039268
Bump

>> No.16041557
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16041557

I have read a lot of fiction, wanted to get into reading some philosophy literature. Any recommendations on where to start?

>> No.16041650

HOLY FUCK HOW DO I JUST WRITE WHAT THE FUCK HOW DO I JUST WRITE HOLY FUCK HOW DO I JUST WRITE

>> No.16041695

Is there any particular reason Pynchon uses "sez" in Bleeding Edge? It doesn't seem like a NY thing.

>> No.16041795

>>16041695
It's fun. He uses it in gravity's rainbow too. https://www.google.com/s/infinitezombies.com/2012/03/24/the-narrator-sez/amp/

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16042402

What are Virgil's Georgics like? I want to start reading him, but since I've not read any Homer yet there's not much point reading the Aenid right now so yeh.

>> No.16042441

>>16041557
what are you interested in? thats where you start. if you have a category first then maybe ppl can help

>> No.16042515

What should I read before attempting Heidegger? Besides Husserl.

>> No.16042831

>>16041407
>start with the greeks
Thanks for the advice but I'm not gay sorry

>> No.16042843

>>16040664
Don't listen to those other fags. Read the Tractatus first. It's a great, short book. Then go onto the Philosophical Investigations (or first the Blue and Brown Books if you want to be more thorough) to see how he feels he messed up with the Tractatus and what he offers as a correction. You could probably just read the Investigations and get a lot out of it, but if you want to actually study Wittgenstein, you'll want to see this trajectory. His self-perceived folly is an explicit point at several points in the Investigations, and you will be worse off for not knowing what he's on about.

>> No.16042982

>>16038379
Just finish the book.
If you’re a competent reader it will only set you back a day or two, so it’s a worthy sacrifice to make to have read the meme novel even if you hate it.

>> No.16043013

What prerequisites should I finish before reading infinite jest?

>> No.16043502

bump

>> No.16043942

what are some /lit/ websites, besides Goodreads?

>> No.16043954
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>>16041407
>how about you stop being a poorfag instead?
You’re a nigger. I waited 16 hours for someone to reply, and this is what I get?

>> No.16044096

>>16043013
just read it

>> No.16044177

>>16038248
What are books that praise humaneness and compassion in dark and cruel world?

>> No.16045058

>>16044177
Les Miserables for fiction
Being and Nothingness for non-fiction

>> No.16045096
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16045096

Is writing fanfics actually viable to practice writing?
Like sometimes I don’t want to write about the human condition every time and I want to grease the wheels with a good old dark comedy post apocalyptic story man

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16045142

>And the Earth Did Not Devour Him (Tomas Rivera)
>Fray Junipero Serra (Mark Brunelle)
>The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe (Lewis)
>Danse Macabre (Stephen King)
>Cry to Heaven, The Queen of the Damned, Beauty's Punishment (Anne Rice)
>And Now Miguel (Joseph Krumgold)
>The Bluest Eye, Sula (Toni Morrison)
>The House on Mango Street (Sandra Cisneros)
>Gulf Dreams (Emma Perez)
>His Story (Rock Hudson)
>Boys Like Us (Various)
>Breaking the Surface (Greg Louganis)

Which of these are worth reading?

>> No.16045149

>>16045096
Depends. If you're using it as way to improve and trying new styles/techniques yes. And even if you're just fucking around with what you already know some writing is better than no writing at all

>> No.16045181

Maybe I’ve been living under a rock but lately I’ve noticed that there’s been a lot of dumb cunts in twitter who think they’re the new emily dickenson or sylvia plath.

Anyone notice this as well or has this been going on for quite a while?

>> No.16045238

>>16045181
Delete twitter and problem solved

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16045316

Any decent books on the history of Japanese baseball?

>> No.16045586

People tell me I write like Joyce even though I’ve never read Joyce (the closest I’ve read to him is Bely). My writing skills suck so it’s basically Mc does something > excessive, abstract/poetic/schizophrenic monologues and descriptions > cut off by an actual event or trails off into another scene. How can I stop this? Inb4 read more, I’ve read a lot but my ideas are still channeled through a modernist lens even though I haven’t read much modernism

>> No.16045803

what's that word for when you try to teach someone to think for themselves about something?

>> No.16045953
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>>16038248
Did they really release winston and thot julie out or was that just illusion winston had?

>> No.16046633

>>16045953
Bump

>> No.16046643

>>16045953
Oh shit also my recollection is that winston was released but still under complete ministry conteol

>> No.16046696

>>16043013
Goosebumps 1-37.

>> No.16046840

>>16038248
I can't remember this book I read once. It was read while on a "naughty banned book" kick. I do not think it was Turner Diaries. What I remember:
>middle age protagonist lived alone
>was a machinist and engineer
>had a shooting range in his basement
>had something against the govt
>carried out assassinations for a while, solo
>bombed an orchestra and killed politicians and celebrities
I remember one scene where the MC bungled a job trying to kill a celebrity in their limousine, or something.

>> No.16046849

How can I use my writing to become more influential?

>> No.16047370

>>16038655
It isn't as hard of a read as it may seem at first

>> No.16047826

Is there a name for the type of narration in which the narrator is a person in the world of the story and occasionally makes references to himself but mostly just talks about what other people said and did, as in The Brothers Karamazov?

>> No.16047843

>>16045586
Read more, obviously

>> No.16048229

What is water?

>> No.16048254

>>16048229
part of nature

>> No.16048338

What/who is a christian?

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>>16048229
The nature of existence.

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>>16038248
what's the best translation? is the wordsworth classics copy ok?

>> No.16048621

>>16040998
greek

>> No.16048640

>>16041025
>a word is any concatanation of latin scripts
wrong

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16048808

Books like pic related?

>> No.16049001

Who the fuck is the Personafag shitposting threads?

>> No.16049029

>>16049001
some tranny and his whiteknights. so much for individualism

>> No.16049316

>>16046840
BUMP I'm going crazy

>> No.16050150

>>16045953
>thot julie out
What exactly do you mean by this?

>> No.16050233

>>16038344
Fuck. That hit hard.

>> No.16050254

Why does it hurt when I pee?

>> No.16050270

>>16050254
A spider crawled into your dick while you were sleeping

>> No.16050284

>>16038974
Nothing? Not even a 't. midwit esl'?

>> No.16050307

>>16038974
probably unhelpful answer but learning latin helped me with this because it teaches you to follow the logic of the grammar instead of just trying to feel your way through

of course your knowledge of grammar connections combines with your natural feeling and they help eachother out too

helps with reading other langauges too, especially german with all its clause craziness

>> No.16050477

>>16050307
Thanks for the response. I only know English but have been thinking of learning Latin to understand English word roots and to eventually read Roman texts, maybe I'll take it up. Any particular book you used to learn?

>> No.16050481

Like I know you're all going to think I'm shitposting but I'm a huge fucking cuck with a fetish with sloppy seconds ie cum as lube, what erotic books feature such situations? pls respond

>> No.16050495

>>16050481
Netorare visual novels

>> No.16050505

>>16050495
doesn't netorare imply none-consent? anyway mention a few pls
i've fapped several times to hal's bitch in summer already but i need MORE

>> No.16050638

>>16050505
The fetish is pretty simple, just use your imagination.

>> No.16050674

>>16050481
you can also check out literotica, there's all sorts of stuff there and it's searchable by keywords.

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16050716

I'm feeling kind of stupid, any books for an IQ boost ?

>> No.16050908

>>16050716
Talk Talk Talk is an interesting book about linguistics. It's pretty dry but you'll feel smart after reading it.

>> No.16051001

If i apply to be a janitor in /lit/ will i have to clean the shit of other boards?

>> No.16052421

>>16051001
No but you will have to hang around with janitors and mods on discord which sounds like a reddity nightmare

>> No.16052430

>>16050505
There's blackmail versions but also consent versions. NTR where the girl doesn't end up liking it really fast are rare, since the point is that women are willing unloyal whores for the cock of any guy more dominant than you

>> No.16052444

>>16052430
How is anyone into this fetish not just bisexual

But then why not just be bisexual

>> No.16053025

>>16047843
What styles/writers do you rec? I mostly have exposure to russian lit

>> No.16053128

I have no strength to share my work due to my severe anxiety
How should I know that my projects sucks dick?

>> No.16053186

>>16053128
You gotta share your work man. Maybe somewhere online, where you can be anonymous.

>> No.16053521

How autistic would it be to print and bind ebooks?

>> No.16054931

>>16053521
it depends if it's 300 pages of genre fiction or philosophy or a few pages of poetry

>> No.16055075

>>16053521
Based and miserpilled, not weird at all

>> No.16055906

>>16038248
Does anyone know if there's an english translation of La Cité à Travers Les âges? Google is no help

>> No.16056076

Why does my empty head have no fucking ideas to write about?

>> No.16056859

do women enjoy nursing their children? like, sexually?

>> No.16056872

>>16056859
Freud probably thinks so

>> No.16056942

>>16056872
my question wasnt literature related at all and i would appreciate it if you could respect that

>> No.16056957

Am i a faggot if i give up halfway through a big book

>> No.16056960

>>16056942
based

>> No.16056973

>>16056942
I was gonna reply "how the fuck is this /lit/ related?" but decided to try to be nice

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Can anyone recommend me literature that is somewhat related to Neue Sachlichkeit/Expressionism, even Bauhaus? I’m very interested in these waves from a visual arts point of view, and I was wondering if there was any more literature (I’m already familiar with Dutch literature in this style) that is congruent with these movements.

>> No.16057155

>>16056859
>do women enjoy nursing their children? like, sexually?
Ask your mother

>>16053521
If it's cheaper than buying it, then do it.

>>16056076
Maybe you need to go out and do more things in the real world, or read more. On a personal level, writing is creating a synthesis of topics you have knowledge about. If you're having trouble being creative, try going out for a walk or keeping a small notebook to write down interesting thoughts you have as they come to you. It's difficult to be creative when you're just sitting in place. If you're really having trouble, try drinking a little bit before you start writing. Accept that not every day you write will be as easy or productive as other days. On days that you are productive and creative, work longer on those days.

>> No.16057243

>>16056872
Freud is a degenerate who tried to justify his degeneracy by redesigning the entire field of psychology, who got retroactively refuted by Jung completely

>> No.16057473

who's that liittle muscley british man on youtube that likes to take his shirt off and do spaz observations on philosophy and lit?

>> No.16058142

where does an anon get started with poetry?

>> No.16058164

>>16056942
>>16056859
The cringe retard vs
>>16056872
>>16056973
The chad helpest

>> No.16058256

>>16038248
DVW = raped cunt?
A: yues

>> No.16058366

Where can I find a digital copy of the RSV with Apocrypha? I can find it without it in PDF format on b-ok, but I can't find it with. Can't even find the Oxford Annotated Bible that used it in a digital format.

>> No.16058412

>>16058366
Can't you just use a website? biblegateway and the other one have it.

>> No.16058465 [DELETED] 

I would like to read up on astronomy, what are essential works pertaining to it?

>> No.16058482

I would like to read up on astronomy, what are some essential works pertaining to it?

>> No.16058518

>>16058482
kuhn has a great book on it funnily enough

>> No.16058705

>>16058412
I'd prefer to have it on my ereader, if possible, though it's looking like it may not be.

>> No.16058956

>>16038365
I've heard of some people that have and all of those I've heard of usually work in something related to digital humanities. I've also heard it's soulless though, and that the pay was not worth it in comparison to how much a STEM job payed.

>> No.16059024

What are some books about escapism?

>> No.16059062

>>16058142
>get some sort of collection / anthology of poems
>read around
>find stuff you like
>read more of those poets
>look up who are similar poets
>read those poets
>read the people who influenced those you like, and those who were influenced by your favorites
>occasionally try to branch out and read stuff outside your known area of interest to challenge yourself or see if you can find new things to appreciate

>> No.16059201

Whats a good feels book?

>> No.16059260

>>16046840
Bump

>> No.16059301

How necessary is a case for an ereader? I have a Kobo Clara HD (not shilling, I don't know if different models are sturdier or weaker) and i got a case (the kind that opens and closes like a book) for it, but it broke when I took the ereader out of it once.

>> No.16059338

>>16059301
I drop my ereader without a case all the time because i'm a retard and it has held up fine. A clara looks like it would be fragile though.

>> No.16059356

>>16059338
Fugg, guess I'm looking on Amazon
What kind do you have?

>> No.16059414

>>16059356
An old kobo, it's really nice. The E-ink is somewhat primitive but it doesn't give me a headache or keep me up at night. It's somehow far easier to concentrate than reading on a screen and the battery lasts for a week.

>> No.16059439

I want to read Wittgenstein's thoughts on language but I also understand he's likely far above my level of comprehension
What are some easier philosophical works on language to dip my feet in?

>> No.16059842

>>16038964
What is the relationship between Moby Dick and the Bible?

>> No.16059876

>>16053521
Think about how much time that would take and then consider what else you could be doing with that time.

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>>16059301
>>16059338
Even if you were lucky when dropping it, the screen of ereaders is the most fragile part. Any impact with a protruding corner or a sharp thing might break it.
My first Kindle broke one day after carrying it my backpack on a fully packed subway. Either someone hit my backpack with his/her elbow or a can of deodorant pressed against the screen. It had a leather case but it still broke.

>> No.16060463

Has reading bad poetry at a young age affected your views on poetry as whole?

>> No.16060688

>>16060463
You should read Coleridge's Biografia Literaria, he has a complex relationship with shit juvenilia poetry... including his own

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Books that give you a similar experience to watching LOST?
Character driven, mysteries, twists, philosophically opposed protagonists, somewhat grounded magical themes, just a good 'ol fashioned page turner.
I want something to obsess over.

>> No.16060944

Is it still worth reading any other DFW after I dropped IJ? Im still interested in reading the Pale King and his short stories

>> No.16060961

>>16060944
consider the lobster and oblivion are good. i can't remember if oblivion contains big red son but that too.

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16062029

where to start with thomas mann?

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16062087

>>16038248
Anime book?

>> No.16062243

Best e-reader under $200?

>> No.16062328

>>16062087
Perish immediately

>> No.16062336

>>16062029
I’ve heard “Death in Venice” is a good start

>> No.16062341

>>16062087
New meme?

>> No.16063611

>>16045953
They physically released them to trap their souls and minds

>> No.16063712

Whats the best edition of Paradise Lost?

>> No.16063766

>>16038265
no. you could get something like the norton's edition if you can tolerate footnotes, it should clear up most of the biblical references. you aren't going to pick up on anything but the broad strokes if you aren't quite familiar with the bible, too many phrasing and references evocative of specific passages you're unlikely to recall unless you've been in a christian context for a long time

if you dont want to read the nortons edition it wouldnt hurt to be familiar with ahab's story (1 kings 16-22), book of genesis, book of jonah and the book of job. for literature and art in general you're doing yourself a great disservice by not being familiar with most of the big biblical stories. at least read the gospels.

>> No.16063781

>>16062029
Death in Venice is a good start.

>> No.16063828

>>16039014
no, the extensive secondary materials and reputation exist for a reason. dont let larpers on here delude you into thinking that its anywhere even remotely common to breeze through ulysses on your first read

>> No.16063863

>>16038766
CS has all the autism and sperginess of engineering with the prestige-chasing and elitism of finance. So many dweebs who'd step over their own mother to even get an interview at Facebook and would sooner die than work anywhere than SF or Seattle at >100k/y starting.

No fun, no social life, just insufferable ladder climbing and ambition. Techbros are the worst.

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>>16062341
Only if your amorous heart desires it anon

>> No.16063956

>>16063712
Norton Critical

>> No.16063979

>>16063956
Norton Critical has two editions. Which is better?

>> No.16064005

>>16038911
Read all the Bible. Yes, all of it. As the other anon mentioned it’s the most influential book in our culture of not the world, and you would do well to familiarize yourself with it.

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16064051

Is there a tablet out there that filters blue light and allows you to read like an e-reader? I have a kindle but its completely useless when trying to read a PDF. Any suggestions?

>> No.16064263

>>16063979
The Teskey. there's second ed of Teskey that isn't out quite yet but it just adds sjw-concerned content

>> No.16064447

>>16038453
People should start reading at 20-25 years old when their brain is still developing, not at 60 when their brain is deteriorating. Besides, reading certain subjects such as philosophy and finance at 60 would be a waste of time when there's not much room left for personal and financial growth.

>> No.16064466

>>16038656
They mean literature written before 1950

>> No.16064591

I'm about to buy a Kobo Clara. Have I dun goof'd or is it good?

>> No.16064776

>>16064263
Thanks

>> No.16064875

>>16040124
The Aubrey-Maturin books are like this, if you're interested in sea stories or the Napoleonic era.

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16065140

What am I in for?

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16065391

What are some genuinly courageous things a human can set out to do in todays world?
Ofc you can do courageous things when accidents happen, but how do you set out to do sth brave?
Can you thing of something interesting that's not joining the army?

>> No.16065458

>>16064051
Why not just install a blue light filter and some comfy e-reading program.
I personally use eReader Prestigio which is nice.. if anyone knows better app, I'd like to know about it.
>>16065140
>'science' book
>bestseller
I honestly haven't read it, but it sounds like classic popsci that doesn't teach you anything really.. chaos theory is really interesting though as a field of mathematics / physics.
>>16059201
The Good Soldier Svejk
Gargantua & Pantagruel

>> No.16065469

Who are the two guys in the video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6mTEx3AsRY

>> No.16065539

Is Critique of Pure Reason as difficult as people make it out to be?

>> No.16065568

>>16065539
No, but it can get pretty specific with it's arguments so it can be frustrating for many.

>> No.16065576

>>16065469
Matt Dillahunty and Sye Ten Bruggencate

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>>16040998
Don't have to be a jesuit to see that's old corncob mccarthy's blood meridian. and that's a stock image of a sad cowboy.

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books about women's pathological need for attention?

>> No.16066103

>>16065458
>The Good Soldier Svejk
>Gargantua & Pantagruel
ty fren will look into them

>> No.16066194

>>16065458
>The Good Soldier Svejk
Is it too anti-clerical? Im a catholic and I feel uncomfortable reading things that are too anti-church.

>> No.16066365

>>16066194
Well. Svejk doesn't really care about anything and the book has a drunk priest.. I wouldn't say it's anti-clerical, but you make your opinion. This motive is just there for the absurdity I'd say.
Hasek I think was a communist, so he might have been a bit anti-church, idk.

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Is there any chance of getting poetry published if I have no literary connections or a past in writing?

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Choose my next book: American Pastoral by Philip Roth, or The Master of Petersburg by J.M. Coetzee?

>> No.16066719

>>16066459
cut zay uh

>> No.16066745

>>16065539
It's pretty damn dense. I found it much trickier to read and wrap my head around than either of the other two critiques or Groundwork. But also worth noting that, like Hume's Treatise, the public's difficulty with interpreting the text prompted Kant to write a concise clarification of the key points (with some differences in content), and that text is his Prolegommena. So I recommend having that handy as well.

>> No.16066754

>>16063712
The Longman Annotated edition hands down

>> No.16067234

>>16066459
Master of petersburg is more interesting

>> No.16067978

>>16066387
yes, if you have money

>> No.16068023

Is there any rewrite of the bible that gets rid of the dumb shit like genealogies, and gives a more sophisticated story structure (as opposed to 'he was drunk so he didn't know his daughters fucked him')

>> No.16068762

>>16038265
I switched out of a computer science program into English and it was honestly one of the best decisions I've ever made. I don't expect to get a good job or anything but I'm much happier now.

Whatever you end up doing Anon, make sure you think it through.

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Is this worth getting? Does it have accurate (ie not modernised) text? Also is it worth reading Chaucer

>> No.16069673

>>16040630
Is The Temple of Man different from The Temple in Man? I'm seeing the latter but not the former.

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>>16038344
>What can i read to overcome this feeling?
Not enough to read, you must apply it as well.

>> No.16069700

>>16068762
Meant to result to >>16038365

>> No.16069875

>>16066071
Elena Ferrante’s Neapolitan novels might fit the bill, though there are a lot of other themes going on as well.

>> No.16069882

Where can I find the books of Thomas Rohkrämer for free?

>> No.16069901

>>16038532
yes, use calibre.

>> No.16069937

>>16038344
Beautiful passage. This is what literature should do to you, I'm glad you were able to see yourself in here.
Don't think of this feeling as something to overcome. Stay with it and think about it as deeply as you can. And don't try to be something you are not. It's okay to be vulnerable, and it's okay to be shy.

>> No.16069989

>>16038248
hello fellow nerds,
I have a question regarding Italian and Latin.
Would you recommend learning both languages at the same time or separately?

>> No.16070078

>>16040735
The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon

But it is long, so if you can't be bothered then just something in that category.

And read Faust

>> No.16070134

>>16065391
Bump

>> No.16071210 [DELETED] 

What's a book that would greatly benefit from being read in physical form? I have an opportunity to choose one book (that isn't in Armenia) my friend will gift me from Canada. I'm thinking of Infinite Jest. Any other variants?

>> No.16071330

What book would greatly benefit from being read in physical form?
>Inb4 all of them

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Question, are the mods /pol/tards?

>> No.16071416

Why should i read Octavio Paz - Labyrinth of Solitude ? I don't csre about Mexico at all.

>> No.16071481

>>16071330
All of them. Though if you don't have a library or can't afford physical, just buy the long or difficult books you're looking at.

>> No.16071755

>>16071380
>t. /pol/tard

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I've recently been accused of not challenging my beliefs with regard to the benefits of globalism and free trade. So I'm seeking books written that take a contrary stance to those things, either from an economic or any other perspective.
Particularly what I've found so far is Globalism and it's Discontents, but it's been more "how we're mismanaging globalism" than "why globalism might not be good in and of itself."
Any recommendations?

>> No.16072592

>>16065539
I never read it but it sounds to me that a lot of people who attempt to read it do so without any preparation. Perhaps they are lacking context so it's recommended to read previous philosophers, preferably all the way back to the Greeks chronologically.

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Anyone know any actually good sources on how to start a business as a no one without money?
Books, YT channels, websites?
I wanna have a try at avoiding the wage slave life, but it would be nice to know some tips or things to keep in mind.
Obviously /biz/ would be a more obvious place to ask, but it's mostly about cryptocurrencies, I trust /lit/ more and know sometimes people here post saying they polled off a business that enables them not to work now.

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>>16072018
I had to read this for a sociology of globalization class once. It was like a decade ago, I don't remember shit about it, except that the professor was a cute leftist but it turned out her fiance was banker and they had just bought a mcmansion in the burbs in the summer of '07, wonder how that worked out

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>>16038386
start with the greeks

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16073223

Is this a joke? Am I supposed to laugh?

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I'm about to start working on an English degree. How fucked am I?

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what's the difference between these when it comes to writing fiction?
what are their uses? when should i be using either?
>past tense v. present tense
>first person v. third person (or even second person)
>block paragraphs v. indent paragraphs

>>16041650
>>16056076
make a prompt for yourself
write a scene based on such prompt
repeat multiple times

>>16045953
they did

>>16047826
>occasionally makes references to himself
you like in dead souls, as well?
don't know, but i read somewhere calling it the "interfering omniscient narrator"

>> No.16074745

>>16072891
To start a business with no money you're going to need some kind of skill and persistence. And if you're a no-one, you'll have to market yourself. I think the best marketing book I ever read was Jab, Jab, Right Hook by Gary V. The guy himself is cringe, and the social media platforms the book talks about are now fucking ancient news, but the perspective he takes as to how to use them is actually spot-on imo. It's a very good intro to the concept of bringing value, bringing good content. Which is pretty much going to be your marketing strategy if you're broke

>> No.16074765

>>16072891
https://www.ycombinator.com/library

>> No.16074841

>>16038248
I just want to know a free domain where I can write shameless, unrepentant, indignant smut and have it accessible to critique from other viewers. Pastebin is being a bitch right now, and I would like a backup plan, is all, please. Anyways, thank you.

>> No.16074898

anons any mystery chart or recommendation?

>> No.16074948

>>16073228
not much
but you will be in less than 5 years

>> No.16074955

>>16074765
hello my fellow hacker jews reader, heil hitler

>> No.16075278

Can anyone recommend some writing on understanding forms of writing?

Specifically I really want to understand the difference between and evolution of prose and poetry. I want good reads on when prose and poetry became distinct art forms, what makes good prose vs what makes good poetry, when did free verse really take off, is verse the mark of poetry, when if ever can the two become one, etc etc.

Thank you in advance.

>> No.16076049

>>16074745
>>16074765
Thanks!

>> No.16076268

Where do i start with Charles Bukowski?

>> No.16076585

>>16074841
Literotica

>> No.16076595 [DELETED] 

I need a book that costs 8 dollars to qualify for free shipping on amazon, recommend me something

>> No.16076658

>>16075278
Walter Ong Orality and Literacy

Northrop Frye but you will have to dig around

>> No.16076917

>>16076585
Thank you.

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How do I increase the border size on my Kobo libra h20 ? Is it just like this because of how the epub is formatted?

>> No.16077037

>>16076658
Thank you anon

>> No.16077076

>>16076947
with that skin you have bigger problems

>> No.16077123

>>16038248
whats with the influx of mouth breathing shit eating r*dditors

>> No.16077149

>>16077123
The polfaggot plague. 2016 elections, corona, niggers, etc etc

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New >>16077160

>> No.16077194

How fast you guys read? If I read your average book an hour a day it would probably take me two weeks to finish it. Paperback like 200-300 pages. I think im retarded.

>> No.16077887

>>16077194
learn how to read faster anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwEquW_Yij0&t=479s

>> No.16078073

>>16077076
I'm not sure what you mean by this?