The Pre-Socratics and Sophists

[Anonymous No.16035265]

Is there anything better than this collection and if not is there anything I should buy along with it? Does it leave out certain fragments or is it complete?

[Anonymous No.16035272]

>>16035265
There are two books published by Penguin, one about the early philosophers and other about the sophist, that I've heard are good, but I haven't read them yet.

[Anonymous No.16035287]

>>16035265
Yes, it's called "The Texts of Early Greek Philosophy: The Complete Fragments and Selected Testimonies of the Major Presocratics":

https://www.amazon.com/Texts-Early-Greek-Philosophy-Presocratics/dp/0521608422

Expensive, though.

[Anonymous No.16035288]

>>16035265
If you can read French, get the Pleiade edition. It's very good. I've skimmed through the Penguin edition about the early philosophers and I wouldn't recommend it: the traduction are very partial, not very good and not explained or very little. For instance, Heraclitus is almost presented as a stoic.

[Anonymous No.16035552]

>>16035287
Thanks for the suggestion, it is quite expensive, but what’s the major difference between the two? Is the Oxford edition not a complete collection and/or are the secondary texts not as good?

[Anonymous No.16035996]

>>16035288
The French always seem to have a level head with translations, mostly just easy prose. I always use the French translations of Homer as reference when looking for a detail or line.

[Anonymous No.16036015]

>>16035265
"The Texts of Early Greek Philosophy: The Complete Fragments and Selected Testimonies of the Major Presocratics" is better.