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Is politics in all honesty just an argument over aesthetics?

>> No.16032860
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>>16032742
No, it's an argument over material interests

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>>16032860
People do not fight and die for their nation over material interest, at least not a nation whose armed forces haven’t been reduced to mercenaries. This is done because of emotions and abstract concepts.

People’s politics as well are in large part not a result of material interests, not that it plays no part, but people are not drawn to the economics professors to lead them, they are drawn to strong men that they believe through their feelings would best be able to lead the community, What they want them to lead the community too as well is only partially associated with material interest, and in the majority has to do with their own idealization of what they would like society to look like.

>> No.16032958

>>16032742
No you retarded faggot, but those Aesthetics symbolise things, and as well bearing some primitive symbolic effect on the mind to be useful in that regard, obviously the Swastika.

And OBVIOUSLY you do not understand politics because you have to ask whether people actually care about political things or whether it's just an irrational sensual preference for one colour or another. Midwit tier, now grow up and read the Republic.

>> No.16032985

>>16032948
>People do not fight and die for their nation over material interest
Yes they do, see the American Civil War for a classic example. A war fought over the domination of one of two different economic models. Perhaps individuals do not, but broader coalitions and nations certainly do.

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>>16032985
>the American Civil War was fought over material interest
Yikes!

>> No.16033049

>>16032993
This is essentially true, and anyone who knows about the history will repeat this. In essence, the conflict was over the issue of the North's industry being protected by tariffs and the South's agricultural economy being hampered by restricted access to global markets. Look up the Tariff of Abominations and read some of the speeches made by some of the top Southern leaders shortly after succession. Only individuals fought for anything above and beyond that.

>> No.16033057

no. Aesthetics goes over most people's heads. They have some innate sense of it, but don't comprehend "aesthetics" as such.

>> No.16033152

>>16032860
>it's an argument over material interests
Imagine believing this

>> No.16033169

>>16032993
do you honestly think it was fought for 'morality' or something? imagine being this naive

>> No.16033191

>>16033152
Not all politics is purely material, but a huge amount is and the parts that are never get in the way of material interests.

>> No.16033205

>>16032742
No, it’s all founded on the struggle for existence between individuals and between groups.

>> No.16033379

>>16033169
It was simply a power struggle over whether the north could dominate the south or the south could leave the union.