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>Filters the Austrian school
>Filters Fascists & Nazis
>Filters Succdems
Damn

>> No.16026675

>>16026656
Marx and Nietzsche are the best pleb filters

>> No.16026689

>>16026656
>Communism never worked
Damn

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>>16026656
>Filters the Marxist

>> No.16026755

>filters the entire anglosphere


>>16026733
Marx filtered the marxists

>> No.16026756

>>16026656
>filtered by human nature
OHNONONO We got too cocky Marxbros...

>> No.16026764

>>16026689
Global capital constantly playing whack-a-mole with left-wing uprisings. Instigating coups in Latin America, sending in pinkertons in the US.
>See, it’ll never work. So you’d just better quit trying silly proles

>> No.16026815

>>16026756
"Human nature" is the product of alienation. Once again OP is right and you got filtered.

>>16026764
The "left-wing" is capitalist in essence. Marx wrote a critique OF political economy, he did not conjure a critical political economy. But it's time to move on from Marx. Marx -> Debord/Ellul -> Camatte -> Kaczynski is the actual continuation of radical thought.

>> No.16026826

>>16026764
>Gets dabbed on
>Were the superior system we swear!!!!

Are commies just a battered whore who keeps crawling back at this point?

>> No.16026862

>>16026826
Yes.

>> No.16026887

He primarily filtered communists.

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>Filtered by history

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>>16026656

>> No.16026927

>>16026764
The soviets never supported anti-capitalist action? Surely holding ground is part of a system working, no?

>> No.16026931

>>16026764
>we kept losing to our enemies
great argument

>> No.16026937

>>16026764
>communism only works in perfect clinical conditions that have never and will never exist
Damn… Guess we should give it one more shot, comrade.

>> No.16026944

>>16026920
That's pretty much what has happened, and ruined this board.

They completely succeeded. There's not even talk of literature anymore, only radical politics (either left or right).

>> No.16026948

>>16026944
Wrong. This is an Advaita Vedanta board. Politics is maya.

>> No.16026958

>>16026764
This is hilarious considering that for Marx socialism emerges after prolonged revolutionary struggle, if the US weren't defending itself against commies it wouldn't really be a struggle

>> No.16026973

>>16026958
What does this even mean?

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>>16026656
>filters fascists
Mussolini and the fascist intelligentsia were strongly influenced by marxism

>> No.16026988

>>16026764
clean your room

>> No.16026999

>>16026983
This is probably the best "pill". I mean, the closest to the 'truth' there is.

The opposite of Communism is something more along the lines of Anarchism or something, that doesn't require a state.

I really see a difference between Fascism and Communism, however that doesn't mean they aren't in the same range. Political ideologies aren't some binary scale, they aren't some kind of 'left-right' dichotomy bullshit like people seem to think they are.

>> No.16027277

trust me, dear larping leftist frends, i live in an ex-soviet country, and you do not want anything to do with socialism/communism, it ruined my country for a long time, it still hasnt recovered yet. if youre not ready to stand in bread and milk lines with tickets instead of actual money, then do not vote in leftists.

>> No.16027519

>>16027277
They do not care. They just make excuses about how that wasn’t real communism and if they try it just once more it will work this time.

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>>16026656
>filters Marx so hard he basically mind breaks him

>> No.16028001

>>16026764
>communism works because it's like a Saturday morning cartoon villain, always coming back and always being defeated
Makes you wonder

>> No.16028568

>>16026920
Jesus i wish this were the case, I´d prefer them any day to someone who takes Peterson seriously or fascist trying to find a new word that describes them which isnt fasism

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>>16026656
>>16026764
>>16026815
>>16026826
>>16026999
>More successful revolutions than any other radical ideology
>It's failed every time
Marxists are unironically more likely to firmly establish workers rights, enviromental protections, and end the exploitive capitalist mode of production by becoming beefsteak fascists and eco-fascists and trying to trojan horse some of Marx's (and the many socialist thinkers who followed) more realistic ideas through third position thought. And with us you'll never have to worry about trannies and other idpol aligned groups distracting from economic justice.

>> No.16028817

>>16028697
But Marx does not want to "firmly establish workers rights, enviromental protections" or any reformist bullshit. Marxists do, bolshevists do, communists do, syndicalists do, but not Marx. That a bunch of morons distorted Marx's radicality to prop up their own political economies is a sign of their own limitations. Marx produced a CRITIQUE OF political economy, he did not produce a CRITICAL political economy. That's what Lenin and Mao did. Marx wants the abolition of state and money.
Yes, later in his life he expanded upon the need for a socialist state to transition towards communism, but it is a failure on his part, a departure from his original radicality. A mistake many intellectuals are prone to do, simply because they spend too much time thinking and writing. Ironically Marx could not vaccinate himself from doing so, even though he so brilliantly perceived philosophy as the subject producing his own alienation.

>> No.16028938

>>16026944
Ehh, the politicization of /lit/ was really between 2014 and 2016. People discovered that most people here have read at least one book in their life (more than can be said for any other board), and so the quality of discussion was much higher. /pol/ refugees invaded like in 2015/6 I think, and immediately the quality of posts dropped dramatically. /lit/ has always held a kind of contrarian politics, with a vaguely aristocratic, but simultaneously socialistic bend. The most pathetic people on the internet are people in online communist communities (“communism is when I’m trans!”)- to think they would be able to effectively “colonize” a board is total nonsense. They expose their faggoty ways through every word they type. They’d be bullied off this site immediately, or maybe directed towards /mlp/.

>> No.16029159

>>16026764
>left wing uprising in third world
>budding country with potential immeditately turns to shit from leftist regime
>thatwasntrealcommunism.png

>> No.16029175

>>16028568
>fascists trying to find a new word that describes them which isnt fascism
>>>r/eddit

>> No.16029305

>>16026764
>global capital
Bit antisemitic, isn't it?

>> No.16029338

>>16028817
Marx didn't live to become aware of the degree to which humanity would become able to - and would in practice - destroy the natural world.

>> No.16029366

>>16028568
...then just go to reddit lol. I'm not even being a dick, it's just the obvious answer to your problem

>> No.16029468

>>16026927
state capitalist

>> No.16030978

>>16028568
Go back, you fucking faggot tourist.

>> No.16031004

>>16026756
Gattungswesen. The relations of production define human nature. You are the proof of that.

>> No.16031120

are there any promonent leftists that arent libs actually advocate for action and go out there and do something about it or do they just sit around all day writing critiques and complaining about capitalism to their listeners?

>> No.16031145

>>16028938
This is why we need /mlpol/

>> No.16031190

>>16026756
how do retards continuously spout off this point as if one of the greatest philosophers ever and all of the greats that followed in his tradition completely forgot about human nature, one of the most prominent topics in the history of philosophy

>> No.16031203

>>16031120
antonio negri and mario tronti were both active in the italian radical scene. Also badiou wrote "philosophy for militants"

>> No.16031204

>>16031190
It's just received opinion, they havent engaged with any of his thought directly, e.g. read marx

>> No.16031267

>>16028817
>Marx produced a CRITIQUE OF political economy, he did not produce a CRITICAL political economy
no this is wrong. read mandel on this topic. Marx wanted to return political economy to the status of science after it was captured and perverted by bourgeois interests

>> No.16031277

>>16031203
i dont know shit about gommunism but ill give that book by badiou a read

>> No.16031483

>>16031145
>>16031190
>>16031204
>>16031267
>>16031277
Dilate.

>> No.16031968

>>16026656
Both the Fascists and Succdems actually were responding to Marx in many ways, with varying degrees of success. The only people filtered by Marx are liberal conservatives, libertarians, and tons of leftist retards who don't read.

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>>16027920
>filters anarchism it ceased to exist

>> No.16031984

>>16031483
reduced so easily to a sputtering wreck.

>> No.16031999

>>16026656
>got ideologically cucked by Stirner

>> No.16033170

>>16026973
He means that this struggle anon is complaining about is necessary for communism to even come about, since it will require prolonged armed struggle. He's saying that America's defense against communism only makes the communist revolution more possible

>> No.16033360

>>16026656
>filters fascists
>implying fascists were not marxists who weren't filtered by reality

>> No.16033386

>>16028938
That's utter bullshit, you can go on the archive and look at pre 2014 political threads and you'll see that /lit/ was full of smug bigoted liberals who likewise didn't read anything they were criticizing, it was not "politicized" because it was an echo chamber with implicit politics

>> No.16033393

>>16031999
the trips of truth have spoken

>> No.16035088

>>16033386
>bigoted
Please go back.

>> No.16035093

>>16026656

>Filters himself

>> No.16035107

>>16035088
I used the term on purpose, brainlet-kun

>> No.16035124

>>16026920
>>16026944
Fuck off, newfags.

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>filters Marx

>> No.16035132

>>16027277
You lived in a state-capitalist country, asshat.

>> No.16035138

>>16029175
>>16029366
>>16030978
Imagine being this much of a clueless newfag.

>> No.16035207

>>16035138
>You are a cluesless newfag.
>t. newfag

>> No.16035245

>>16035124
>no u
Go back, tranny.

>> No.16035253

>>16035207
>>16035245
Newfags.

>> No.16035312

>>16035253
>Newfags
>t. newfag

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>>16026920
never seen anything more cringe

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>>16028938
>vaguely aristocratic, but simultaneously socialistic bend
Sounds like someone I know.

>> No.16035326

>>16026764
Isn't communism supposed to eventually naturally arise in highly developed capitalist nations?

>> No.16035341

>>16026920
You forget the fact that there were always leftists on /lit/, also anons from /lit/ created /leftypol/

>> No.16035343

>>16035341
/leftypol/ makes no sense. /pol/ isn't a right-wing board, it's a general politics board. If you want to discuss lefty talking points you can do it right there on /pol/. The only reason /leftypol/ was created because lefties were so assblasted after losing getting dabbed on in every discussion.

>> No.16035357

>>16029338
>destroy the natural word
gay liberal thought. the problem isnt destroying the natural world, it is changing the environment to be less suitable to human inhabitation. get out with your faggot hippy sentiments.

>> No.16035429

>>16035343
/lefypol/ never lost, /pol/ is a shit board filled with idpol bullshit and retards spouting whatever they can. It was founded on being le ironic egy retards which got filled by /b/tards. Moot hated /pol/ or /n/ that's why he took it down twice.
The problem with /pol/ is that it is pretty much filled with postmodernity (ironically enough). Debates on /pol/ are filled with fallicies and people unable to concede and start trowing ad homs and calling eachother based and redpilled. They reject metanaratives. They overdose on conspiracies. They fall for propaganda. They're infiltrated by stormfront and feds.
/leftypol/ on the other hand is focused on left wing politics, reading is highly encouraged and race baiting, low quality threads, etc got removed, anchored or publicly banned. If you check out /leftypol/ you see that it doesn't have so many single one sentenced posts like /pol/ has, it's more focused on theory and analysis rather than crying muh white identity, muh western values.
Lefties do make threads on /pol/ from time to time, but constantly trying to argue is exhausting. Especially if it's low iq shit tier ad homs and people not even knowing what communism/socialism/marxism is.

>> No.16035434

>>16035429
Didn't read. Dilate.

>> No.16035442

>>16035429
>leftypol has to ban people to keep its vintage modernist narratives going

not gonna make it

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>>16035434
>Didn't read. Dilate.

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>>16035442
>implying /leftypol/ hasn't had to withstand multiple raids
>implying /leftypol/ doesn't have an easy way to evade bans like on 4chan
People from /pol/ who tried good faith debate didn't get banned. /leftypol/ has succefully cured anons from their /pol/ brain. That's why /pol/ wants to avoid its existence. You can go to /leftypol/ right now, and compare its content to /pol/. /pol/ is a dopamine filled board focused on (you)'s, happenings, bait, shitflinging, gets, etc.
Tl;dr to ask why /leftypol/ when /pol/ exists is basically like saying why /lit/ or any other board exists because we already have /b/

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>>16035429
>Leftypol complaining about board quality on /pol/
>Raid /pol/ 24/7 with bait threads, troll threads, low quality posts, and BBC BLACKED SPAM for years and talk about doing so on bunkerchan
Bunkerchan is a place for retards to spew buzzwords at each other every day. I swear every time I open up that place there is a new buzzword of the week you shit for brains are spewing. Can't even handle a single opposing argument, mods instantly lock threads or ban people for making effort posts simply because its not lefty shit. Everything is "glow" or "fed", literally the replacement jew boogeyman of /pol/. Most threads and debates there are people skirting any "IDpol", wouldn't want to hurt the fee fees of any blacks right? Extremely pathetic. Just implying China is not actually "communist" gets you banned from bunkerchan, even those it's obviously not to everyone else besides you autists. Leftypol is just as bad as pol, if not worse simply because it has unironic furfag mods and Nazi moderation.
>>16035531
>good faith
Just one of the many buzzword non arguments from leftypol retards, everything is in "bad faith" if its not worshiping King Karl.

>> No.16036249

>>16036179
cope, try formulating a good coherent effort thread and post it on /leftypol/
>Raid /pol/ 24/7 with bait threads, troll threads, low quality posts, and BBC BLACKED SPAM for years and talk about doing so on bunkerchan
>implying those all come from /leftypol/ members
shitposters are everywhere, there have been effort lefty threads on /pol/ but most of /pol/ doesn't try to engage with it in good faith
>good faith is a buzzword
buzzword is a buzzword, you know what I mean. It's not just spamming meme's, infographics, and ad homs

>> No.16036304

>>16036249
>cope
ebin buzzword
>implying those all come from /leftypol/ members
Strawman. I said Leftypol cannot complain about board quality when they themselves intentionally lower it by raiding with low tier content.
>engage with pol in good faith
>post "1 post by this ID" bait threads and blacked spam and admit to doing so on bunkerchan
WOW so le bad faith!
>buzzword is a buzzword
Woah.... leftypol intellect at work... le good faith bad faith spook glow fed idpol nazi XDDDDD

>> No.16036357

>>16027277
>tickets
>not actual money
money and tickets is same anon uwu

>> No.16036369

>>16027519
>>16035132
Pottery.

>> No.16036388

>>16036249
>there have been effort lefty threads on /pol/ but most of /pol/ doesn't try to engage with it in good faith
What a lie, I have seen many of those threads and every time the leftypol op gets btfo and leaves. Explain to me why you subscribe to an ideology that only works under perfect circumstances, and then call yourself a "well-read intellectual".
>>16035429
>is focused on left wing politics, reading is highly encouraged
So it's probably an echochamber, what books are recommended? Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto? Do you ever discuss any opposing politics?
>>16035132
He had to live in a shitty capitalist country guised as a socialist country because socialism doesn't work.

>> No.16036397

>>16036304
>>16036388
Here let me show you a thread I just freshly made: >>>/pol/270934030
See the first 2 replies? /pol/ wants to be in it's echochamber, it's collective narcissism at work.

>> No.16036410

>>16027920
t. greatest achievement is killing a priest and being a vanguard for commies to actually do something.

>> No.16036422

>>16036397
>Gotta group up if you want to deal with big threats that jeopardize everyone. Individualism is the biggest D&C of all time, being makes you easier to farm.
Your response: >cope
Kek. Great response. Witty. Sharp. Really well thought out.

>> No.16036431

>>16036397
>made paragraph long post that basically boils down to "pls stop being racist guys"
>"make us toxic" <-literal gaslighting
>surprised that no one wastes their time giving effort posts
Amazing.

>> No.16036446

>>16036431
Leftypol thinks taking single sentence posts and then expanding them with pointless non-argument fluff makes the posts more legitimate.

>> No.16036456

>>16036388
Thats a lie. Its more like the leftypol gets tired of responding to shifty arguments so it leaves. Anytime you make any good arguments against racism it gets boiled down to "its natural to be racist bro" which justifies immoral actions against someone.

>> No.16036459

>>16036422
>>16036431
>>16036446
Are you deliberately misrepresenting his argument?

>> No.16036463

>>16036459
>>16036422
I am not, check the thread.

>> No.16036465

>>16036422
>>16036431
I love to say cope but guys I got studies
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2013-13266-001?doi=1
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/per.2067
Don't act like /pol/ tards aren't mostly insecure white boys that lack self worth and lack sex thus being part of edgy right wing groups gives them some sense of accomplishment. Saying muh individualism is literally cope, as they roleplay as chads that are super based and redpilled but many are NEETs living with their parents.

>> No.16036475

>>16026733
Based Georgeposter

>> No.16036477

>>16036465
>studies
>psychology """science""" from literally who
K... keep me posted
>Don't act like /pol/ tards aren't [insert very long adhom]
K... keep me posted

>> No.16036499

>>16036465
>Don't act like /pol/ tards aren't mostly insecure white boys that lack self worth and lack sex thus being part of edgy right wing groups gives them some sense of accomplishment. Saying muh individualism is literally cope, as they roleplay as chads that are super based and redpilled but many are NEETs living with their parents
What makes you think that? Cherry picked pictures that you saw on leftypol? Post your physique instead of posting weak ad hominems.
I am the dutchfag in your thread, reply neger.

>> No.16036502

>>16036459
Look at his posts here as soon as I called him out for how obvious it was just saying "pls stop being racist". Either you are a leftypol nigger yourself, or you don't understand the way they spin things.

>> No.16036552

>>16036477
>>16036499
Okay explain to me how /pol/ ideology is based?
Because fuck niggers, fuck kikes, fuck every non white ?
While you got (fascist enabling) libertarians, ancaps, conservatards, etc on the board you can't deny that the main thing that gets pushed on /pol/ is fascism, neonazi shit, and generally ethno nationalism.
When a nigger dies, they make a thread about it and you have people saying based, racewar now. For some this might be just 4chan culture but it's essentially just enabling people to form radical opinions and feel safe on that board. Look at that german faggot that tried to attack a synagogue and ended up shooting a fat women and some muslims while listening to anime music in his car. This is what /pol/ creates.
Even if people make threads saying it was cringe afterwards, mostly because he was unsuccessful

>> No.16036590

>>16036552
>Moralfag makes appeal to emotion
Spooked retard.
>how /pol/ ideology is based?
Racism is based.

>> No.16036601

>>16036552
I am not for mass shootings, they don't help our cause and are only good as entertainment.
That german faggot was no better than a nigger for me.
And /pol/ isn't one person retard.
Now reply to me in your thread.

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>>16036590

>> No.16036613

>>16036502
His arguments are better than yours

>> No.16036626

>>16036590
>racism is based
Why? You never had any friends with a different ethnicity as you, or?
>>16036601
>entertainment
sure, this doesn't sound like a degenerate moral system to me

>> No.16036628

>>16035429
Leftypol has become an idpol cesspool like the "left wing" subreddit. They even have a couple resident trannies.

>> No.16036633

>>16036613
>"pls stop being racist guys"
"""arguments"""

>> No.16036644

>>16036626
>Why?
Because objectively looking at history, Europeans are the champions of civilization and invention. Why would I want lesser people around me?

>> No.16036646

>>16036626
Are the Allies degenerates because they celebrated winning the war, and thus celebrated having killed Axis soldiers?

>> No.16036667

>>16036633
he at least gave sources

>> No.16036683

>>16036646
In second WW, goys fought goys and Jews benefited. Allies-Axis is a falsy dichotomy. No more brother wars.

>> No.16036686

He's on leftypol right now. Look at this retard kek.

>I'm single handily destroying /pol/tards, I found a good article and am using it to destroy their ideology:
>https://cognitiontoday.com/2020/07/collective-narcissism-nationalism-toxic-groups/
>>>>/pol/270934030

>Based or cringe?
What do you think /lit/, based or cringe?

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>>16036644
I'm gonna reply with this meme book
>>16036646
>killing innocents is the same as killing people who kill innocents
wew

>> No.16036707

>>16036667
I don't think psuedoscience designed to sell pharma meds are real sources. Especially not from literally whos, with studies that probably haven't been replicated once let alone multiple times. Psychology is a meme science

>> No.16036723

>>16036686
This guy is the biggest faggot I have ever seen, I'm actually having second-hand embarrassement because of an anonymous retard making an ass out of himself on a anonymous anime website. I guess this is the power of /leftypol/

>> No.16036733

>>16036688
>the most btfo book of all time
K...keep me posted.

>> No.16036734

>>16036688
Non-natives with completely different cultures and ethnicites that leech of me are invaders to me and thus not innocent.

>> No.16036742

>>16036723
Top kek, but was it
>based or cringe?

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>>16036686
>>16036723
>>16036742
yep that's me, I'm gonna be honest I didn't sleep last night and I'm not the most confident in my debating skills.
So having a few lefty anons to back me up would be great.
I think it's pretty cringe now I've been exposed, but fuck it.
I'm literally arguing against anons that think it's entertainment to see innocent minorities getting shot and think hitler did nothing wrong.
You haven't given me a single good point why I might be wrong, it's literally degraded group think from all that shitposting

>> No.16036755

>>16036749
Read the Culture of Critique, preferably the whole trilogy. And stop being such a faggot.

>> No.16036756

People who don't spend 4-6 hours a day reading should have never be allowed to present their political hot takes on the internet. Nuke /pol/.

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>solves marx

>> No.16036766

>>16036756
Nuke /pol/ and /leftypol/.

>> No.16036771

>>16036749
>>16036734
Are you a woman b t w? Are you only capable of thinking emotionally?

>> No.16036775

>>16036749
>I think it's pretty cringe now I've been exposed
So I guess the anser to your question of "based or cringe?" was cringe kek.
>to see innocent minorities getting shot
Another appeal to emotion from a moralfag. Low effort.

>>16036771
Based.

>> No.16036781

>>16036756
This is only true if you try to "solve" politics by making up a system from grounds up.
If you develop your politics organically, by taking small steps and continuously reassessing your ideas by examining their interaction with reality (pragmatic definition of truth) then there is no need to spend half of your life reading books.
The Greeks and Romans had a political system which was far superior to ours, even though that was long before Marx was even born.

>> No.16036782

>>16036771
>Ben-Shapiro-pill of a high-IQ reason/low-IQ feelings dichotomy
>2020
lol

>> No.16036788

>>16036782
My question still stands, answer it.

>> No.16036794

>>16036781
>their interaction with reality
>(pragmatic definition of truth)
So you just proudly admit you do not read any books? You sound supremely retarded, exactly the type of person who thinks he is justified in expressing his hot takes because he spends a lot of time on text-heavy hyperspace. Picking up ""ideas"" through internet-osmosis is not how you become well-versed in anything, especially not in theory, least of all in political theory considering the volatility of this subject.
Read a book retard.

>>16036788
Not the same person

>> No.16036803

>>16036756
nuke the internet desu.

disbanding the explicit aristocracy and giving universal education was a mistake. At least then you had to prove you were an erudite if you were a pleb to have a opinion worth considering.

>> No.16036805

>>16036794
>So you just proudly admit you do not read any books?
Not that guy but this blatant strawman is really pathetic. He clearly did not say "I LITERALLY READ NO BOOKS"

>> No.16036811

>>16036805
Oh thanks Ben Shapiro, I must have committed a fallacy or something of that sort. It is literally not true that he has said "I don't read any books", my post has been made obsolete and you are right.

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>>16036811
I accept your concession

>> No.16036842

>>16036794
>Picking up ""ideas"" through internet-osmosis is not how you become well-versed in anything
I suggest you to practice reading comprehension. Neither Greeks nor Romans had access to internet, however they managed to develop a successful political system by organically discussing it, making small modifications, observing effects, drawing conclusions, while retaining respect for the nature of man.
Two thousand years later the cancer of modernism came about, and with it retards who thought that they could write up a system from grounds up, as if they were writing a computer program or a mathematical proof, and disregarding the natural and common needs of human beings, such as wanting to be around people similar to you.
>>16036811
Shapiro is a kike, and if you think that any of /pol/acks likes him, not only you are creating a strawman but your cognition is in such a sorry state that you can't even make the strawman remotely similar to the enemy you are fighting.

>> No.16036956

>>16036842
Yes they also didn't have access to a 2000 year after-effect of western tradition, globalization, the internet, two world wars, the industrial revolution, nuclear arms etc. They also didn't just wander around and ""figured shit out"" by their common sense, they had a long ass tradition of fucking written scripture, every person of any relevance in the republic read Plato, Aristotle and Romans orators like Cicero. You are a complete moron making up your head-canon about the world without reading any books and considering this to be a point of pride.

>The cancer of modernism which reuslted in people actually thinking
This is not only wrong but also supremely retarded, did you even read Plato's Politea? He isn't just making shit up ""pragmatically"", he adheres to strict axioms and systematic conjurations. Stop trying to think, you are a fucking embarrassment.

Your entire shitpost is basically:
>I know more about the world because based aryan romans and greeks had it all figured out, modernist/post-modernist Jews ruined our great political truths by uhhmmm thinking and writing books
Even fucking Carl Schmitt dedicates himself to a systematic analysis of political theory.

Which is of course a manifestation of what I described earlier:
>You sound supremely retarded, exactly the type of person who thinks he is justified in expressing his hot takes because he spends a lot of time on text-heavy hyperspace.

>Shapiro is a kike, and if you think that any of /pol/acks likes him, not only you are creating a strawman but your cognition is in such a sorry state that you can't even make the strawman remotely similar to the enemy you are fighting.
This presupposes I was framing the guy under "my enemy: the /pol/ack", which I wasn't, I was mocking his cringy attempt at debunking a speech-act by taking it absurdly literal.

Here's a pro-tip: You sound like you are 17 years old, read at least one book which would challenge your world-view before you dedicate portions of your time shitposting your "political" """""ideas""""" in your preferred echo-chambers. Your brain is literally rotting as we speak.

>> No.16036992

>>16036811
> I must have committed a fallacy or something of that sort
Didn't you complain about people on /pol/ only being able to argue with fallacies?

>> No.16036996

>>16036992
No I didn't, that was my second post in this thread moron.

>> No.16036998

>>16036956
>speech-act
>blatant strawman
The level of mental gymnastics lmao

>> No.16037022

>>16036998
>dude you are a 50-IQ retard
>uuuhmmmmm actually you're accusing me of an impossibility; the impossibility of having an IQ of 50 and being capable of operating a computer, next time try to be more honest in your insults, I know honesty is not one of leftism's favorite ideas
This is what you sound like

>> No.16037030

>>16036996
Thought you were someone else, nevermind.

>> No.16037047

>>16036956
>they had a long ass tradition of fucking written scripture, every person of any relevance in the republic read Plato, Aristotle and Romans orators like Cicero.
By the time Plato and Aristotle came about, the political system was already in place and running great for many years.
>did you even read Plato
Plato ideas were not original in the slighest, unlike Marx's. All of Plato's works are literally just common sense written down, and before it was written, it was thorougly discussed and tested in practice, in contrast to Marx's made up ideology which is pure theory, and every time that theory was attemped to be practiced, it failed spectacularly.
>romans and greeks had it all figured out
Never said that. I said however, that Romans and Greek had a superior method of ariving towards political axioms by actually living in a real world instead of maladaptively daydreaming in one's mom's basement like Marx.
>modernist/post-modernist Jews ruined our great political truths
Sorry to annihilate your whole worldview, but modernism and postmodernism are not the same thing. In fact, the "post" prefix suggests that postmodernism is an opposite idea or at the very least a critique of modernism. Since I have insulted a modernism and modernists earlier, you have no reason to believe that I dislike postmodernism or postmodernists, and indeed I don't.

I suggest that you read a book, crucially by someone who wasn't a delusional NEET like Marx.

>> No.16037050

>>16037022
>seething this much
You could just admit it was a strawman instead of having a spastic coping fit over it.

>> No.16037078

>>16037047
>By the time Plato and Aristotle came about, the political system was already in place and running great for many years.
It collapsed multiple times, Plato and Aristotle both took a big fat fucking dump on Athens and its polis. Read a goddamn book you stupid goddamn nigger.
>All of Plato's works are literally just common sense written down, and before it was written, it was thorougly discussed and tested in practice, in contrast to Marx's made up ideology which is pure theory, and every time that theory was attemped to be practiced, it failed spectacularly.
What? All of Plato's political writing is exactly anti-thetical to political reality in Ancient Greece, that was the whole point of the Politeia. The entire history of reception took Politeia to be a piece of novel theory, nothing that coud actually be turned into practical reality.
You are such a disgusting little pseudo-intellectual faggot, stop fucking lying and pretending you know what you're talking about.

I'm done talking to you, you are just talking out of your ass because you believe this behavior to be sanctioned as you have never actually spoken to people outside of 4chan. Jesus Christ man, read a fucking book or join a literary club of some sorts. You are such a fucking imbecile it's embarrassing.

>>16037050
It's impossible for me to have a spacitc coping fit for I am not a spastic, next time try applying logic instead of wishful thinking moran.

>> No.16037087

>>16037078
>You are such a disgusting little pseudo-intellectual faggot
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
>I'm done talking to you
Don't go, you can dilate using one hand, and type using the other one. I am jerking off with my left hand as I am typing this.

>> No.16037092

>>16037078
>still coping
>still spastic
kek

>> No.16037093

Anons literally cannot discuss economics without it devolving into shit flinging. They are 100% incapable of it.

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>>16037093
>economics

>> No.16037100

>>16037087
Let me tell you, if you manage to write a coherente essay or book on how "Plato's politics were thoroughly tested before he wrote it down" you will go down as one of the greatest Platonists of this century, this would be a paradigm-shifting take on Plato's Politeia. But I know, and anyone else who actually reads your shitposts will also immediately understand, that you never ever actually read Plato or anything really, you are the perfect example of the mind-rotten internet consoomer who thinks browsing 4chan can substitute hard work. Forever retarded, there's no escape for you.

>>16037092
It's impossible to be "still" spastic, this is not a temporal event.

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>>16027920

>> No.16037114

>>16035444
Continue.

>> No.16037121

>>16037100
>still seething
>still spastic
kek

>> No.16037440

>>16035429
Agreed fully, watch /pol/ users sperg out in the replies calling you cringe or whatever is the new epic slang they use now.

>> No.16037478

>>16036644
t. 23 year old jobless virgin
Take the historical materialism pill anon.

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16037502

materialism was proactively refuted by Guenon

>> No.16037523

>>16037478
>take the spookpill anon
No thanks, I'm not a spooked retard who believes in magical meme """science"""

>> No.16037554

>>16037523
>Says "spooked"
>Believes in race
Based retard

>> No.16037579

>>16037554
>t. believes in animal subspecies but too spooked to believe in human subspecies

>> No.16037592

>>16037579
That's not what race is you fucking mongoloid

>> No.16037628

>>16037592
>so beyond spooked he cannot even see how there is less physical discrepancies between most subspecies of most animals than human "races."
Your right, race is a spook, its clear we aren't even the the same species.

>> No.16038359

>>16037093
>hungry gommie man
>economics

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>>16036397
I've been arguing for more than 5 hours, why am I doing this to myself?

>> No.16038932

>>16037440
>the new epic slang
Chud?

>> No.16038958

>>16038867
Because deep inside you want someone to btfo of you so bad that you either drop politics or join some new ideology. You don't even believe in the shit you post, you only believe in it because you want to appear intellectual elite and separate from society at large, while simultaneously being accepted by normalfag society. Truly a waste of life.

>> No.16039009

>>16038867
I did this to you neger, that's what you get for being a commie.
Let's argue for 5 hours more.

>> No.16039065

>>16038867
the virgin "why am I doing this to myself?"
vs.
the Chad "Let's argue for 5 hours more"

>> No.16039104

>>16037102
You clearly didn't read neither the book you posted nor Stirner's Critics

>> No.16039135

>>16039065
>/pol/: full of life, hope, and willing to argue to the worlds end
>/leftypol/: gives up and wants to kill himself (even more than usual) after a mere 5 hours
kek

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.16039188

>>16039168
Kek, post that thread.

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OBSESSED

>> No.16040072

>>16039707
M I N D B R O K E N

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>>16039707
Holy shit, Marx's ass must of been aching for the rest of his life

>> No.16041277

>>16035429
Dilate.

>> No.16041290

>>16035341
Did the chapo subreddit tell you that, tourist? Go back.