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[Anonymous No.16020672]

>read about absolute idealism and esoteric metaphysics
>create a concept in my head
>will that concept by desintegrating my individual self
>become the concept

What the actual fuck bros. Did Hegel just give me superpowers?

[Anonymous No.16020825]

>>16020672
Bump

[Anonymous No.16020854]

>>16020672
he did, you could probably establish a microstate now.

[Anonymous No.16020936]

>>16020672
what concept, anon?

[Anonymous No.16020973]

>>16020672
yes
unfortunately, h̶͕͓̉̆̄͜ḕ̴̛̘͖̺͉͍̹̤̙͕̪̩̙̹́̽͐̈́̈́̎̂͌̒̾̂̑ͅ also claimed your soul in the process

[Anonymous No.16020983]

>>16020936
Any concept I want

>>16020973
It literally feels like my individualization is the price to pay to get access to the spirit

[Anonymous No.16021251]

>>16020973
why is hegel always portrayed as a demon?

[Anonymous No.16021285]

>>16020672
It seems he taught you how to imagine that you are thinking. That's pretty based

[Anonymous No.16021300]

>>16020983
Like what? Any examples?

[Anonymous No.16021301]

>>16021251
clarity & order = Celestial
confusion & chaos = Infernal

[Anonymous No.16021332]

>>16021300
I conceive an idea in my head. That idea being it as such, detached from me. In order to integrate it, I must stop being myself so I can be it

For example: I imagine the idea of having infinite motivation to do something, then, I must stop being myself so I can be this idea, embodying it in a material form. (Of course, all ideas have their material limitation)

[Anonymous No.16021377]

It's just not healthy to ready so much german stuff in one take. Take a break and read some vulgar british empiricists. After you're bored out of your mind go back to germans. Repeat until you're no longer interested in them (hopefully soon).

[Anonymous No.16021388]

>>16021377
Sanity is for the weak who dare not to look behind the veil. Stay with the Germans OP.

[Anonymous No.16021389]

>>16021377
much as i love the germans this is true. swim too long in that booze-soaked sea of words and you will become a schizo.

[Anonymous No.16021392]

>>16021388
this

[Anonymous No.16021471]

>>16021377
there has been precisely 1 (one) a*glo in history who's work is worth reading.

[Anonymous No.16021473]

>>16021388
>>16021389
I also have a desire to "touch the transendent" and I admit that the germans are prob the one who came he closest to "it" (within the context of modern european thought). But it does have some really heavy schizo tendencies.
I don't know, the closest "transcendence" I see today that is still withing the realm of rational is catholicism (and I'm an atheist).

[Anonymous No.16021581]

>>16021473
Read esotericism and hermeticism

[Anonymous No.16021608]

>>16020672
>literally "I am the hero of my own daydreams"
god german philosophy is so pathetic.

[Anonymous No.16021613]

>>16021581
Already grown out of it. Any neoplatonic-influenced system leads me to christianity and christianity leads to catholicism.

I need a non-retarded materialistic explanation of transcendence - like OP.

[Anonymous No.16021637]

>>16021613
>I need a non-retarded materialistic explanation of transcendence - like OP

I would say you're doing it wrong from the start, but the closest to it is Hegel. He tried to explain the transcendent with reason

[Anonymous No.16021651]

>>16021377
REEEE fuck off you are just a resistance to overcome created by the I

[Anonymous No.16021654]

>>16021613
>non-retarded materialistic explanation of transcendence
there is none, materialism is wrong. Look up the CIA researches on ESP

[Anonymous No.16021660]

>>16021654
>Look up the CIA researches on ESP
More on this?

[Anonymous No.16021675]

>>16021660
CIA pdfs that validate the existence of a soul
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00791R000200070001-9.pdf
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00789R003300210001-2.pdf
>inb4 glowie

Here is the thread I have made on /pol/, but the board is completely destroyed.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/268396662/#268396662

[Anonymous No.16021690]

>>16021660
1st picture

[Anonymous No.16021693]

>>16021608
>tfw you realize the Nazis literally believed in the Triumph of the Will.
it all makes so much sense now

[Anonymous No.16021701]

>>16021690
2nd picture

[Anonymous No.16021722]

>>16021701
3rd picture

[Anonymous No.16021731]

>>16021722
4th picture

[Anonymous No.16021743]

>>16021731
5th picture

[Anonymous No.16021750]

>>16021690
>>16021701
>>16021722
Sunny?

[Anonymous No.16021757]

>>16021690
>>16021701
>>16021722
>>16021731
>>16021743
Im scared bros

[Anonymous No.16021760]

>>16021750
sunny stole it, it's been around forever. also gtfo twitterfag.

[Anonymous No.16021764]

>>16021757
The dedication is almost inspiring, who sat down and put this together?

[Anonymous No.16021779]

>>16021764
Prob some American schizo who larps as a german NatSoc. Good work btw

[Anonymous No.16021780]

>>16021757
Why?
>>16021764
I certainly did not. If I find the guy that did I will unironically send him money

[Anonymous No.16021784]

currently reading this.

[Anonymous No.16021790]

>>16021779
>larps as a German NatSoc
I'm not a natsoc exactly, I would like a political system like Plato's Republic with some differences.
Plato's Republic was proto-nazi

[Anonymous No.16021800]

>>16021790
Please elaborate on >some differences

[Anonymous No.16021805]

>>16021690
>>16021701
>>16021722
>>16021731
>>16021743
Interesting observations that just devolve into to supremacist/nationalist propaganda, but it's not like I have any arguments against it. Pretty cool still

[Anonymous No.16021810]

>>16021675
does anyone else think that there's something fishy about pop culture etc. products that take real experiments like these and reproduce them in an over the top fantasy/scifi setting. Wasn't this experiment the exact setting of Stranger Things?

[Anonymous No.16021827]

>>16021784
>Literal german medieval mysticism

What the hell.

[Anonymous No.16021852]

>>16021805
the idea of a racial soul isn't inherently supremacist, but it is directed towards Europeans. could apply to any decent race.

[Anonymous No.16021866]

>>16021805
That's evola. I mean, the IQ differences aren't propaganda, they are common sense.
But I think everyone has a soul.
>>16021810
It's happening in CERN right now

[Anonymous No.16021869]

I've been seeing gnostic-related stuff more and more recently. Why is that?

[Anonymous No.16021891]

>>16021800
Plato thought that the state should raise kids, I think that the nuclear family should play the biggest role.
I also think that the state should discharge bad-ier genetics people to have more than one kid. This way, they use all of their attention for one kid, so it turns out the best.
The good-tier genetics people should have more than 3 kids.
This way evolution starts again.

[Anonymous No.16021935]

>>16021891
*discourage bad-tier

[Anonymous No.16021964]

>>16021743
Why would the soul be racial, exactly? I don't get it.
What we understand as race are just combinations of traits passed through the generations by humans in geographical/cultural boundaries. Does that mean that the soul is one of these traits? Or that the soul is present in every gene?

[Anonymous No.16021976]

>>16021964
I believe in esoteric hermeticism and mysticism but even I think spiritual racism is retarded (even though Im a huge Evola fan)

[Anonymous No.16022011]

>>16021964
Meditate over that question.

[Anonymous No.16022016]

>>16021869
there's a game series called shin megami tensei that just had a new trailer come out, and a trailer for a remake of the 3rd installment. It's standard jrpg psued psych references

[Anonymous No.16022038]

>>16021377
>>16021389
>>16021473
More schizo than egypto-platonico-christian apophaticism?

[Anonymous No.16022049]

>>16022038
>he doesn't know hegel was an avatar of Ma'at

[Anonymous No.16022051]

>>16020672
Wait, it actually happened? How does that work?

[Anonymous No.16022055]

>>16021743
Literally just p-hacking if not blatant data favribation

If these things were real, they would be important and well studied and not a pet interest of mentally ill nu-rage comic aficionados

[Anonymous No.16022077]

>>16020672
You're fracturing your consciousness to make tulpas anon. Fichte was the first western philosopher to realize that the very existence of other people is the result of others calling them into being, in the absolute idealist sense.

[Anonymous No.16022079]

>>16022038
Touché ;)

[Anonymous No.16022083]

>>16022055
Its called esoteric for a reason retard lmao

>>16022051
You as a person is simply a sum of ideas that come from something. Some ideas need to shed in order for others to come. You can literally will ideas and concepts whenever you want as long as you change what you regard as the absolute

[Anonymous No.16022092]

>>16022079
How about you touchee your mothers cock?

[Anonymous No.16022099]

>>16022077
>You're fracturing your consciousness to make tulpas anon

Does this mean I can weaponize the spirit to further my materialistic interests?

[Anonymous No.16022124]

>>16021964
>soul be racial
If the physical is a manifestation of the spiritual, and the physical is divided in different races, the spiritual might also be.

[Anonymous No.16022139]

>>16022124
>the spiritual might also be.
Sentences like these are the death if any ligical thought.

[Anonymous No.16022140]

gnosticism is just modern day nihilism

[Anonymous No.16022142]

>>16022099
I hope so. So far nobody has combined tulpamancy with mesmerism/chaos magic to create a full-blown conscious and material being out of scratch, even the golem makers said they couldn't do it.

[Anonymous No.16022144]

>>16020672
SO THIS IS THE POWER OF AUTISM

[Anonymous No.16022146]

>>16022140
wrong. suck your moms cock.

[Anonymous No.16022155]

>>16021471
I’ll bite

[Anonymous No.16022156]

>>16022140
no, it's nihilism combined with radical transcendence. much cooler imo

[Anonymous No.16022165]

>>16020672
>I IDENTIFY AS PEPE THE FROG
>I'M PEPE THE FROG AND I'M VERY POPULAR
>YOU MAY HAVE SEEN MY PICTURE POSTED FREQUENTLY ON THE INTERNET BOARDS
>I'M A CRUDELY DRAWN CARTOON FIGURE WITH NO DISCERNABLE RACE OR GENDER
>BUT LOOK HOW CUSTOMIZED MY EXPRESSION IS
>THESE ARE MY ELECTRONIC EMOTIONS THAT I DOWNLOADED FROM WWW.4CHAN.COM AND WWW.REDDIT.EDU
>THEY HELP ME FIT IN
>I'M A REAL BOY
you are all schizo retards that have no identity in real life so you submit to a fake identity fed to you by your jewish masters as you brainlessly consume retarded internet content

[Anonymous No.16022178]

>>16022165
based to the bone

[Anonymous No.16022181]

>>16022156
that's a funny way of describing suicide

[Anonymous No.16022187]

>>16022156
What is the difference between gnosticism and mysticism?

[Anonymous No.16022189]

>>16022139
I think it's pretty straightforward. I said might, because I'm not an expert

[Anonymous No.16022190]

>>16022165
this but unironically, sans reddit.org

[Anonymous No.16022202]

Transcendence without revelation (knowable, loving, whatever - god, example - christianity), seems like a lovecraftian nightmare.

[Anonymous No.16022219]

>>16022202
It may be useful.

[Anonymous No.16022231]

>>16022142
I meant shifting my personality through tulpas. Not literally creating matter out of thin air lmao

[Anonymous No.16022240]

>>16022165
was this an attack on 4chan in general? What was the point of this

[Anonymous No.16022269]

>>16022124
>the physical is divided in different races
No it's not. I understand race realism as the idea that there are certain genes that been passed throughrout a certain population that is 'better' than the equivalent genes of other populations, but there is no inherent 'division' between these populations as different natural entities.

[Anonymous No.16022284]

Does anyone have tips on reaching a hypnogagic state? I naturally go into hypnogagic hallucinations almost every time I sleep or wake up, but I'd like to be able to control them a bit better. For example, once I had turned off my alarm when I was younger to wake for school, and accidentally fell asleep. About 5 minutes later, I hallucinated that there were bed bugs crawling all over me and gaining in size as they sucked my blood, eventually causing sort of acute pain where I had hallucinated them to be, moments before waking up in time to get ready. I sort of hallucinate half dream states while falling asleep too, but I'm not completely conscious as it happens.

[Anonymous No.16022330]

>>16021613
There is no Transcendence in materialism retard. You seem like you would mesh better with someone like Deleuze rather than Hegel.

[Anonymous No.16022331]

>>16022269
>there is no inherent 'division' between these populations as different natural entities.
But actually there is, more than you know.

[Anonymous No.16022419]

>>16022331
like what? And don't tell me that the races being "too different" is proof of an inherent division betwee them. Genes can be passed between all populations and they all have common ancestors.

[Anonymous No.16022448]

>>16022419
Mans genes are 98,75% the same as a jellyfish, meditate over that number.

[Anonymous No.16022473]

>>16022448
What does it has to do with anything?

[Anonymous No.16022522]

>>16022473
Meditate over that question.Stop posting

[Anonymous No.16022547]

>>16022522
Why don't you medidate on the fact that you're a retarded faggot?

[Anonymous No.16022556]

>>16022547
shut up, you dont know what you're talking about, this is cringe

[Anonymous No.16022562]

>>16020672
>will that concept by desintegrating my individual self
?

[Anonymous No.16022576]

>>16022473
He's saying extremely minor differences cause huge changes. Thus humans can be 99.9999999999999999% the same, but that 0.000000000000001% is enough to separate us.

>>16022448
He's saying that while these differences exist, thats not an argument for races existing. As there are major differences between even isolated populations like basque.

[Anonymous No.16022577]

>>16022562
you can't be two people at one time

[Anonymous No.16022671]

>>16022547
I love that reply I really do. It ist funny to me, so enjoyable.

But on a serious note: You have so very much learning to do.

[Anonymous No.16022791]

>>16022671