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Anonymous Wed Jul 29 17:57:32 2020 No.15995990 [Reply] [Original]

Where do I go next if this was the most interesting thing I've ever read (and I haven't read much)?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 18:04:01 2020 No.15996044 K-Punk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 18:05:44 2020 No.15996060 >>15995990 more mark fisher (I still think his music and film criticism is way better than his political writing) or look into christopher lasch, joan didion, susan sontag, and camille paglia

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 18:08:09 2020 No.15996074 Todd Mcgowan, Zizek

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 18:10:33 2020 No.15996084 >>15995990 Read Marx, Engles, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, literally anyone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 18:49:49 2020 No.15996365 Culture of Narcissism by Chris Lasch

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 19:21:18 2020 No.15996616 >>15995990 start with the Greeks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 19:22:28 2020 No.15996622 >>15995990 the redscare containment subreddit also dont come back here thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 19:23:06 2020 No.15996627 >>15996084 Unironically this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 19:23:30 2020 No.15996630 have you ever heard of jordan peterson? he has really good life advice :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 20:08:57 2020 No.15996956 >>15995990 Marx, Engels, Lenin. Unironically. Also read Cockshott for starting to outline the lost future called cybersocialism and so then be able to exorcise its ghost.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 21:20:39 2020 No.15997358 >>15996365 this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 21:30:15 2020 No.15997413 >>15996630 Based anon just wants to give life advice

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 21:55:01 2020 No.15997580 More Mark Fisher, Stuart Hall, Walter Benjamin, Debord, Althusser, Lefravbre, Foucault Also just pick up books from the footnotes my dude.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 23:43:41 2020 No.15998333 >>15995990 Industrial Society and Its Future.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 01:05:28 2020 No.15998830 Just about anything he cites

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 01:50:47 2020 No.15999111 Psycho-politics is the next step

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 03:57:35 2020 No.15999700 >>15999111 This German nigga stole the ideas from fisher

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 03:59:38 2020 No.15999714 >>15995990 Peterson, Bill Nye and Taleb

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 03:59:52 2020 No.15999715

>>15995990
>and I haven't read much

Of course you haven't.

Read ''Basic Economics'', by Thomas Sowell, or some economics textbook if you're not bothered by technical prose.
Also read the non-technical ''Incerto'' (all of it, cover to cover), by Nassim Nicholas Taleb, in five volumes.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:01:52 2020 No.15999734

>>15999715
PS: ignore the people recommending Petterson.

Read serious intellectuals. Start with Sowell and Taleb, who are writing today and are very accessible. Then read the classics (Aristotle, Machiavelli, Kant, de Maistre, Burke, T.S. Eliot, Scruton, Gomez Davila, Mises, Hayek, Popper etc.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:05:45 2020 No.15999759 File: 817 KB, 600x580, 1540310120765.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15999734 >serious intellectuals >Hayek, Mises HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:18:05 2020 No.15999819 >>15999759 I don't believe in Austrian economics, but they did have important contributions. And Hayek, of course, won a 'Nobel' in Economics. Can you refute them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:19:13 2020 No.15999823 >>15999819 Sorry, let me rephrase it: Can you show that they are not serious intellectuals? (For this is the claim that is being contested.) I think some of their ideas can be refuted, but not their seriousness. Can you prove they were not serious?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:19:20 2020 No.15999824 >>15999819 no need to refute them myself when Cockshott already has

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:20:31 2020 No.15999829 >>15996365 Although psychoanalysis is cringy af this is a great book.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:21:46 2020 No.15999833 >>15999823 >>15999823 it's a well known meme that Austrian Economics is basically a cult lol even Piketty, a turboliberal, BTFO'd them

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:22:17 2020 No.15999835

>>15999819
They literally based their entire thesis on the rejection to the very option of proof, and just declaring that you can only decide proof by rhetoric.

They built their ideology on quicksand, and I can disregard it out of hand as a result.
Their work contains no scholarship

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:45:49 2020 No.15999939

>>15999824
>>15999833
>>15999835
...

Not a single argument against their ideas (many of which I disagree with - including their foundational assumptions - given that I am not an Austrian, but a Talebian orthodox) was presented. I assume that you have never actually read them cover to cover.

Clearly, you can't argue. Good-bye.

(Cockshott is laughable, by the way. I bet Jeff Bezos would be his fan.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:51:51 2020 No.15999967 >>15999939 cringe, you better leave bucko

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:58:53 2020 No.16000001 >>15999967 Despite using only five words, you made three grammatical mistakes.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 05:04:52 2020 No.16000042 >>15999939 >Cockshott retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 05:09:19 2020 No.16000069 >>15999939 Cockshott and Anwar Shaikh blow Taleb out of water

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 05:11:17 2020 No.16000079 >>15999715 Anon, I love you for recommending Thomas Sowell. More people should read him, and not only his econ books.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 05:12:53 2020 No.16000090 >>15999759 ok, normie.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 06:52:58 2020 No.16000497 >>15995990 Guy Debord - Society of Spectacle Christopher Lasch - The Culture of Narcissism Jacques Ellul - The Technological Society, Propaganda Those are all really hard books compared to Capitalist Realism though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 07:02:44 2020 No.16000528 Lol at economics recommendations. Who the fuck unironically reads that crap. EVERYTHING economists said turned out to be wrong, they are like sociologists but with suits and a little babymath.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 07:18:33 2020 No.16000612 isnt this that book that argues capitalism is inevitable, unstoppable and permanent despite having only existed for like 300 years

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 07:25:00 2020 No.16000643 >>16000612 >Capitalism has only existed for 300 years

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 07:49:58 2020 No.16000765 >>15995990 Everything was forever until it was no more

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 08:09:20 2020 No.16000841 >>16000701 this seems like the perfect chart for me. thank you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 08:17:32 2020 No.16000876 >>16000841 Don't mention it Anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 08:18:52 2020 No.16000883 >>16000612 You've clearly haven't read it or you did and are just retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 11:11:33 2020 No.16001809 Bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 11:13:41 2020 No.16001830 >>15996365

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 11:32:40 2020 No.16001952 The Foundation for Exploration by Sean Goonan

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 11:37:23 2020 No.16001980 The /pol/tard who said Taleb and Sowell were intellectuals is obviously baiting, you absolute idiots, no one is that stupid.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 13:16:54 2020 No.16002577

>>16000643
More like 500 but yes the market conditions that led to the dominance of the West are an outlier in global history. It's not common for monarchs to relinquish command of entire industries for them to become privatized and decentralized, and this is the major hurdle that prevented China from reaching the level that the West did in the industrial revolution despite several hundred years of technological head starts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 13:25:17 2020 No.16002627 File: 135 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The alternative

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 13:38:03 2020 No.16002730 >>15995990 >>15996060 What this guy said. Also listen to Red Scare

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 14:05:02 2020 No.16002938 >>15995990 society of the spectacle guy debord

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 15:00:28 2020 No.16003371 >>15996074 todd :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 15:04:35 2020 No.16003399 Michelstaedter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 15:05:07 2020 No.16003404 >>16000841 Start with 24/7 and New Dark Age, they're in a similar style to Capitalist Realism, very approachable

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 16:26:58 2020 No.16004131 >>15999939 >Cockshott is laughable Can you show that he is not serious intellectuals? I bet you haven't even read TANS from cover to cover.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 17:56:22 2020 No.16004848 >>16003404 will do that after I finish society of the spectacle

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 18:34:48 2020 No.16005175 >>15995990 >favorite book is some leftoid """theory""" garbage >"I don't read that much" Figures.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 19:10:59 2020 No.16005532 Try this 30 page essay by GM Tamás https://socialistregister.com/index.php/srv/article/view/5852/2748 A much better political analysis of capitalism in the 21st century

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 19:31:32 2020 No.16005718 >>15995990 Lasch, Nagel, MacIntyre, Deneen, Debord, Baudrillard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 21:09:29 2020 No.16006509 >>16002730 Red scare kinda sucks desu, the girls are very dumb

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 22:23:56 2020 No.16007001 you're already here

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 22:30:57 2020 No.16007060

>>15999715
>Serious Intellectuals
>Taleb and Sowell

>>15995990
f you're asking a question about a book that can be answered on 4chan, you haven't asked an interesting question. Read and reread Fischer and focus your question. Then the next steps will be obvious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 22:36:19 2020 No.16007106 >anon asks for similiar books >gets 95% bullshit replies mocking him for reading a book Why the hell has /lit/ become such cancer? Try this one anon: No Speed Limit: Three Essays on Accelerationism

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 22:43:58 2020 No.16007162 >>16003371 I see we've got another Why Theory listener

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 23:43:38 2020 No.16007515 >>16002730 >Red Scare No need too, Anna only rewords the stuff she reads which impresses an impressionable crowd that haven't ventured much into reading.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 00:01:12 2020 No.16007623 File: 74 KB, 299x475, BabySteps.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15995990

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 06:06:55 2020 No.16009354 Bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 08:08:33 2020 No.16009855 >>15996630 hell nah

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 08:09:38 2020 No.16009861 >>15997704 AMAZING

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