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[Anonymous No.15992231]

>it's not a meme
What the fuck? I staved off the urge to read this from hype for FAR too long.The whole thing is naturalistic, tersely so, but still beautiful. I teared up during the part where Stoner and Edith are trying to conceive

[Anonymous No.15992271]

>>15992231
>I teared up during the part where Stoner and Edith are trying to conceive

Are you trying to be ironic? Why there of all places?

[Anonymous No.15992277]

>stoner
>no one smokes weed

[Anonymous No.15992283]

>stoner
>edith doing nothing wrong

[Anonymous No.15992306]

A booktuber noted that it will be fun to read the same book from the wife's perspective

[Anonymous No.15992316]

>>15992271
No irony lol, I particularly mean the part immediately after she becomes pregnant. Hard to explain. That paroxysm of passion initially seemed like some fresh start in their relationship, but was outed as a fleeting affectation. Specifically this part on 85/86 is what got to me:
>She made it clear to her husband that she could not endure the touch of his hand upon her, and it began to seem to him that even his looking at her was a kind of violation. The hunger of their passion became a memory, and at last Stoner looked upon it as if it were a dream that had nothing to do with either of them. So the bed that had been the arena of their passion became the support of her illness.

[Anonymous No.15992358]

>>15992231
Katherine is my waifu

[Anonymous No.15992374]

>>15992306
Sounds like a nightmare. 1000 pages of bitching and scheming.

[Anonymous No.15992385]

>>15992316
Forgive my autism. I took you too literally.

[Anonymous No.15992498]

>>15992374
It's like 200 pages and Stoner is one of the least "schemey bitchy" characters ever written, he just lives with it.

[Anonymous No.15992509]

>>15992498
Based low reading comprehension poster

[Anonymous No.15992737]

>read Stoner
>ending forces you to shed tears and smile at the same time
How the fuck did he do that?

[Anonymous No.15992767]

>>15992737
Yeah, great ending. Great book. The retirement dinner got me too.

[Anonymous No.15993313]

>sleeps with a student
>cheats on his wife
>refuses to leave wife
>favours the female students
>we're supposed to believe he's a good guy
Fuck this book

[Anonymous No.15993317]

>>15992231
Is any of his other stuff worth reading?

[Anonymous No.15993332]

>>15993317
The West book is good, the Rome book is bad

[Anonymous No.15993341]

>>15992306
>booktuber
What a disgusting group of people.

[Anonymous No.15993343]

>>15993317
I absolutely loved Butcher's Crossing, but I believe it's generally considered his weakest novel. Augustus is magnificent too, even won the National Book Award back in 1973.

Both of those books are very different compared to Stoner, though there is arguably some thematic overlap. However, I'd say they're worth checking out if you liked Stoner.

[Anonymous No.15993364]

>>15993313
>>we're supposed to believe he's a good guy
No, this is the brainlet take. He’s not a particularly good guy, he’s just a guy.

[Anonymous No.15993371]

>>15993313
>good guy
never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.15993372]

>>15992231
Read it last year. My favourite parts (that I still remember) were when he goes away with the younger girl and the ending. The part where he goes away with her was comfy, and the ending made my chest feel hollow

[Anonymous No.15993378]

>>15992306
It would actually

[Anonymous No.15993642]

>>15992498
I meant a book from Edith's perspective. By the way, what do you guys make of the theory that she was abused/molested by her father? It would really help me to understand her psychotic behavior, such as her driving a wedge between Stoner and his daughter.

[Anonymous No.15993666]

>“Poor Daddy,” he heard Grace say, and he brought his attention back to where he was. “Poor Daddy, things haven’t been easy for you, have they?”
>He thought for a moment and then he said, “No. But I suppose I didn’t want them to be.”
>“Mamma and I—we’ve both been disappointments to you, haven’t we?”

[Anonymous No.15993690]

>>15992231
i liked all three of this dude's books, didnt read the early one he disavowed. he has a tendency of warping the main character from a bumpkin to a philosopher over the course of book. very cozy. butcher's crossing was his best

[Anonymous No.15993699]

>>15993332
The first half of the rome book is good. Everything after Augustus winning is kind of tedious

[Anonymous No.15993798]

>>15993642
I think Freud ruined the West. Not every neurosis is the result of sexual trauma.

[Anonymous No.15993820]

The books that are popular here are unironically good.

>>15993690
It's not that good. Go read what we have of his unfinished novel though. It's on JSTOR

>>15993699
Really? I found the ending to be the best part.

[Anonymous No.15993823]

>>15993820
This but unironically.

[Anonymous No.15993911]

>>15993820
>It's not that good.
wrong
>>15993820
>Really?
yes

[Anonymous No.15993926]

>>15993911
Based.

[Anonymous No.15994280]

>>15993642
Lol what >>15993798 pretty much. I think her father was just too controlling on her given that she was an only child.

[Anonymous No.15995079]

>>15993666
>>“Mamma and I—we’ve both been disappointments to you, haven’t we?”

[Anonymous No.15995976]

>>15993798
Abused =/= sexual trauma. Never read Freud, but a lot of mental issues are definitely linked with childhood trauma.

[Anonymous No.15996853]

What books actually are a meme in this fucking place?

[今晚打老虎 No.15996927]

>>15993642
i dont buy the theory and i think one of the reasons the novel works so well is precisely because Edith comes off as an irredeemable cunt.
shes a dumb dirty hooer who becomes a massive cunt because, like Stoner, she didn't have the will or the drive to take control of her life. unlike Stoner, who generally just takes the ass poundings of life, Edith lashes out with her cunty little schemes and tricks. and then she has the galls to pretend she's the victim
>no one forced Edith to marry Stoner
>in fact, no one forced Edith to take many of the horrible decisions she ended up taking
Edith is a bitch. that's all there is to it. she represents the archetypal woman. those who deviate are outliers. the rest are different only in their varying degrees of the Edith spectrum.
sometimes there aint deeper meanings. sometimes people just are.
>"welcome to the water, kid"

[Anonymous No.15997071]

Can anyone explain to me why Archer Sloane was crying when everyone got back from the war?

[Anonymous No.15997079]

>>15996927
>like Stoner, she didn't have the will or the drive to take control of her life
>unlike Stoner, who generally just takes the ass poundings of life, Edith lashes out with her cunty little schemes and tricks. and then she has the galls to pretend she's the victim
You just pointed the difference between men and women lmao

[Anonymous No.15997213]

>>15996927
>unlike Stoner, who generally just takes the ass poundings of life, Edith lashes out with her cunty little schemes and tricks.
This is how I interpreted it.

[Anonymous No.15997223]

>>15997071
Because people had lost themselves and been exposed to the horrors of war you dummy.

[Anonymous No.15997646]

>>15993820
name of unfinished novel?

[Anonymous No.15997669]

>>15992498
Idiot

[Anonymous No.15997687]

>>15993666
It too much

[Anonymous No.15997697]

>>15993820
Is infinite jest actually worth reading then?

[Anonymous No.15998109]

>>15997687
Edith certainly was. Fuckin cunt.

[Anonymous No.15999882]

>duh huh duh stoner guy hate his life but stands up to everyone without doing anything and sticks penis in student and has angry wife but still sticks penis in student and hates incel cripple. he victim, he hero, no weed, best book huh duh duh duuuuuh

are you guys larping?

[Anonymous No.16000457]

>>15993666
>>“Mamma and I—we’ve both been disappointments to you, haven’t we?”