/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15987547]

Have you ever read a book that has LITERALLY turned you fucking insane? Like blew your mind to bits and rendered you useless in society? Please rec, I’m almost there with my reading but I need the last push

[Anonymous No.15987562]

>>15987547
reading deleuze made me feel smarter but had unquestionable objectively disastrous consequences in my life. it was a huge mistake and sanity began to return days after i put it away.

[Anonymous No.15987565]

I have bad facial hair bros...
I literally look like a wojack

[Anonymous No.15987587]

>>15987562
What specific works and what were the consequences?

[Anonymous No.15987649]

>>15987562
you sound like an easily impressed moron.

>HURR IT JUST BLOOOOOWS YOUR MIND BRO

you think this is the point of philosophy because you're a simpleton

[Anonymous No.15987661]

>>15987562
Absolutely filtered

[Anonymous No.15987676]

>>15987547
Bolshevism: From Moses to Lenin

[Anonymous No.15987688]

>>15987587
just ATP, i got obsessed with deterritorialization and started disputing my friends' and families' long-held views and norms to try and show them that other ways of seeing things were valid, which mostly just alienated them; I also stopped valuing constructs like "showing up to work on time" and my art (which I do for a job) started getting abstract and sloppy because I was trying to shake it up and ended up just making it look like I was on drugs, which i later found out many people assumed I was. so i ended up having all kinds of social and professional issues. im sure people with more mental resolve could handle it but i'm just too impressionable for that french stuff.

[Anonymous No.15987696]

>>15987649
>>15987661
Yes, I literally am too impressionable and it filtered me. That's what I came here to post. Luckily I'm not self-conscious about such things.

[Anonymous No.15987710]

>>15987547
Reading Genealogy of morals impressed me as it gave me a new perspective on how people conduct themselves

Then I read Beyond Good and Evil and my brain became fried eggs. His arguments against free will specifically made me fucking insane for weeks

[Anonymous No.15987724]

>>15987688
Wew lad

[Anonymous No.15987733]

>>15987724
I am the most honest poster on this website.

[Anonymous No.15987743]

Reading After Virtue made me really sad as it shattered my views on secular ethics when I needed it coming out of that teenage nihilist phase.

[Anonymous No.15988093]

>>15987688
I also stopped valuing constructs like "showing up to work on time"
Lol

[Anonymous No.15988111]

>>15987547
i ain't no pussy

[Anonymous No.15988114]

>>15987547
diary of a sociopath, m.e. thomas preddy good

[Anonymous No.15988262]

>>15987547
No, I have no reason to believe that what I experience isn't real and nothing that I have read has influenced my thoughts on this.

[Anonymous No.15988305]

Is this the Wojak thread? Nice, post your 'jaks anons

[Anonymous No.15988327]

>>15987562
after I read A Thousand Plateaus for the first time I had a hypomanic episode and ended up being diagnosed with bipolar 2. I was prescribed lamotrigine and I'm fine now but damn

[Anonymous No.15988337]

>>15987688
>started disputing my friends' and families' long-held views and norms to try and show them that other ways of seeing things were valid, which mostly just alienated them; I also stopped valuing constructs like
Im just curious did you ever question the construct of antiracism or racial equality during this radical re-evaluation.

I note that one is often suspiciously missing from these pomo guys supposedly uprooting all the norms of society

[Anonymous No.15988353]

>>15987565
what do you mean bad facial hair wojak has a thick beard

[Anonymous No.15988380]

>>15988337
i did not believe in racial equality before reading deleuze, so that wasn't territory that needed shaking up

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[Anonymous No.15988408]

[Anonymous No.15988414]

Necronomicon

[Anonymous No.15988432]

[Anonymous No.15988447]

Reading Nietzsche's Gay Science he makes suggestions here and there about how the life experience of philosophers has an influence in their work, made something click on me. I've had many clicks though. And I wouldn't say they are mindblowing on their own, but added up I sometimes think I could be insane.

[Anonymous No.15988462]

History of Sexuality by Michel Foucault. I was never quite right after that. Arguably it was just the capstone on months of reading post-structuralists but basically I became a NEET for years because of how disillusioned I was.

[Anonymous No.15988514]

I wouldn't say insane, but I definitely felt some anxiety for a week or so after reading this. In the end, though, it really was a productive "dizziness of freedom" anxiety. When you can admit the element of fiction in the values and institutions you cherish and still find them worth affirming, there's a power and a beauty to be found.

[Anonymous No.15988515]

>>15988462
Why would you be disillusioned after consuming the writings of a homosexual pedophile? Did you check and see how specialists in the fields he commented on responded to his work? He's not nearly as good as many make him out to be.

[Anonymous No.15988530]

>>15987688
Damn homie got wrecked by a couple of French pedos

[Anonymous No.15988575]

>>15988111
Based trips

[Anonymous No.15988599]

>>15988337
Nick Land did, but under different grounds than transvaluation, at least not explicitly so

[Anonymous No.15988605]

>>15987688
Man, you're a pseud.

[Anonymous No.15988647]

>>15987649
i guarantee I'm smarter than you.
post your WAIS-IV score.

[Anonymous No.15988651]

>>15988515
One of the most cited people in the humanities, like over a million. Obviously influential so I wouldn't be surprised if there were every kind of reaction.

[Anonymous No.15988662]

>>15988605
Uh, yeah, duh. Another guy trying to pwn me as if I don't know what I posted lol. Always trust an anon to project his insecurities. Who called you a pseud my friend, how bad did it hurt?

[Anonymous No.15988676]

>>15988599
idk why he's assuming only antiracists read D&G in the first place... very not true... just cause Guattari can't hold back on calling random things "fascist" doesnt mean much

[Anonymous No.15988683]

[Anonymous No.15988751]

>>15988651
Yeah, so go take a look at some of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_(Merquior_book)
>Merquior provides a largely negative evaluation of Foucault's work. He argues that Foucault's works are often riddled with major errors of fact and reasoning that undermine Foucault's arguments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Sexuality#Reception
>The historian Jane Caplan called The History of Sexuality "certainly the most ambitious and interesting recent attempt to analyse the relations between the production of concepts and the history of society in the field of sexuality", but criticized Foucault for using an "undifferentiated concept" of speech and an imprecise notion of "power"
>The historian Peter Gay wrote that Foucault is right to raise questions about the "repressive hypothesis", but that "his procedure is anecdotal and almost wholly unencumbered by facts; using his accustomed technique (reminiscent of the principle underlying Oscar Wilde's humor) of turning accepted ideas upside down, he turns out to be right in part for his private reasons."
Perhaps you should not have placed so much stock in what this man had to say.

[Anonymous No.15988764]

>>15987547

Yeah, I remember reading David Deida's The Superior Man while taking LSD.
It changed me. It genuinely has.
I used to be needy, easily emotionally attached to women, paranoid, selfish, controlling, and ridden with anxiety that they'd cheat on me, which made me fight, and argue with them a lot. I was a disgusting man, I truly was.
But things changed after that day.
And, it's let be to actually being able to have amazing relationships with women, where I feel comfortable being a man, a rock, unmovable, rational yet full of passion and love when I need, I gave myself to death.


There are still things I need to work on, like finding a purpose in my life I can feel proud on, but at least I know I am a little less garbage than I used to be

[Anonymous No.15988806]

>>15988764
>David Deida (born March 18, 1958) is an American author who writes about the sexual and spiritual growth of men and women.[1] His ten books have been published in 25 languages. He conducts spiritual growth and intimacy workshops and is one of the many founding associates at the Integral Institute. He has conducted research and taught classes at the University of California at Santa Cruz, Lexington Institute in Boston, San Jose State University and Ecole Polytechnique in Paris. He is the author of numerous essays, articles, and books on human spirituality including The Way of the Superior Man, Finding God Through Sex, and Blue Truth and the autobiographical novel Wild Nights.[1]
The absolute state of /lit/.

[Anonymous No.15988831]

>>15988806

Say what you will, but my life has had a positive impact because the book made me reflect on the way I was behaving.
There is nothing good about the way I used to be, manipulative, passive-aggressive, paranoid, anxious, constantly fearful I was not man enough, always trying too hard to come off as masculine, while the truth is I was acting like an emotional bitch.

I am thankful the book led me to change, and become someone that one day, will be a better father, a better friend, a better lover and a better member of my community.

[Anonymous No.15988886]

>>15987547
Maybe not what is meant but reading Technological Slavery by Kaczynski really had me down in the dumps for a while. Took me a few months to climb out of that hole.

[Anonymous No.15988906]

>>15988886

Its an easy hole to climb. Humans have not always been what we are, and we will not always be either, progress is inevitable, and trying to return to a pre industrialized society might make us feel good short term, but if you are looking at it from the frame of thousands of years, it'll doom us to being no better prepared than monkeys are to natural catastrophes.
Not to mention, even if the Western nations were to follow suit, and abandon tech, we have no way to make other countries stop, which in the end would leave us unable to defend ourselves against foreign forces.

Kacynzki is not someone worth listening to.

[Anonymous No.15988924]

>>15988831
>manipulative, passive-aggressive, paranoid, anxious, constantly fearful I was not man enough, always trying too hard to come off as masculine
Isn't this how the average ghetto "chad" behaves?
>while the truth is I was acting like an emotional bitch.
Your mindset doesn't seem to have changed. If you're still thinking in terms of being an "emotional bitch" and "being a man," you are still caught in the trap that this world has set for you. If you cast aside those concepts completely, you will be even freer.

[Anonymous No.15988972]

>>15988924
>Isn't this how the average ghetto "chad" behaves?

Maybe, women were still attracted to me, but I think that was because acting like a ghetto chad gives the illusion you are strong willed, and fearless, which works short term, but you are unable to keep relationships long term.
>you are still caught in the trap that this world has set for you

I disagree, I changed a lot in the way I interact with women. I never argue with them, I never take offense, I have fun, hang out and hook up, If I don't like something, I say it clearly in a loving way, or walk out.
The world didn't set up anything for me, it was there before societies understood it, and it'll be there whether we enact that knowledge, or not.

And, I know what I say its true, cause at the end of the day its not just wishful thinking, its lead me to have a stable relationship with a woman I love, and know loves me back, without mental games, or tricks, just honest good times with no stress

[Anonymous No.15989032]

>>15988751
I'm not that poster, my point is that there's no perfect philosopher and so someone as influential as him will have critical reactions regardless.

[Anonymous No.15989038]

>>15987688
>I also stopped valuing constructs like "showing up to work on time"
I don't have an appropriate reaction picture for this post, but here's a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXPcYTA9KRc

[Anonymous No.15989055]

>>15988906
Cope

[Anonymous No.15989056]

>>15988972
>Maybe, women were still attracted to me, but I think that was because acting like a ghetto chad gives the illusion you are strong willed, and fearless, which works short term, but you are unable to keep relationships long term.
Judging by the rest of your post, you haven't maintained any subsequent long-term relationships, either. I suspect that you have been attracting a different kind of woman, and that this is the cause of your "success."
>I disagree, I changed a lot in the way I interact with women. I never argue with them, I never take offense, I have fun, hang out and hook up, If I don't like something, I say it clearly in a loving way, or walk out.
You don't sound like someone who is on the path to marriage and monogamy. You sound like a complete and total degenerate who does not know what it means to be emotionally invested in another human being and thinks that that makes him superior to others.
>The world didn't set up anything for me, it was there before societies understood it, and it'll be there whether we enact that knowledge, or not.
What on Earth is this gobbledygook supposed to mean?
>And, I know what I say its true, cause at the end of the day its not just wishful thinking, its lead me to have a stable relationship with a woman I love, and know loves me back, without mental games, or tricks, just honest good times with no stress
I hope you understand that "honest good times with no stress" is an illusion.

[Anonymous No.15989106]

>>15988906
The point about arms disparity and why scaling back tech one nation at a time is doomed to fail is both made and addressed by Kaczynski.

The point about advancement/change is also made by Kaczynski (and a bunch of transhumanists, to different effect). The questions are: towards what, to what end, is it inevitable, etc.

I don't think you've read the dude, which is fine, you aren't obligated to. Your takes are boring though. There are much better responses (e.g. I am confident we can engineer a greater carrying capacity for ourselves or I think a small elite will eeather the storm and that is good or I am OK with becoming something beyond what we now perceive as human or...).

[Anonymous No.15989126]

>>15989056
>Judging by the rest of your post, you haven't maintained any subsequent long-term relationships, either. I suspect that you have been attracting a different kind of woman, and >that this is the cause of your "success."

You are right to say my behaviour led me to find a different type of woman, a higher quality one. One with a good relationship with both, mum and dad, but that was not by coincidence, I went into the dating scene, and met a lot of girls, till I found one that fit all the characteristics I wanted in a woman
>Loving
>Petite
>Motherly
>Smart, and strong willed
>Comfortable being feminine

I would never have been able to attract this type of woman, had I not changed.
And I did, I've been with her for 3 years now, we've never had a single fight, and every time we meet, time just flies by for both of us.

>What on Earth is this gobbledygook supposed to mean?
It's supposed to be that, the dynamics that exist between female, and male relationships are constants, they are not set up by societies, they are primal. So whether you believe in them or not, does not change the fact they exist
>I hope you understand that "honest good times with no stress" is an illusion.

My own experiences are proof to myself that this does not need to be the case, I would know, I am someone in a relationship like that

[Anonymous No.15989146]

>>15989032
The point is not the existence of critical reactions. The point is the basis of those critical reactions. Foucault is routinely criticized for being sloppy with his data, factual assertions, and interpretation. This casts serious doubt on not only his entire corpus, but also on the political agenda that it has been used to support.

[Anonymous No.15989147]

>>15989106
>I am confident we can engineer a greater carrying capacity for ourselves or I think a small elite will eeather the storm and that is good or I am OK with becoming something beyond what we now perceive as human or...).

That is my take on it, I see Kacynski as short sighted, and unimaginative.The fact that he mailed bombs to people, which accomplished absolutely nothing adds that.

[Anonymous No.15989155]

>>15989126
>I would never have been able to attract this type of woman, had I not changed.
Very interesting, but how do your values align?
>And I did, I've been with her for 3 years now, we've never had a single fight, and every time we meet, time just flies by for both of us.
Okay, so the chemicals haven't worn off yet. What will you do when your attraction to her wanes and you begin to have serious disagreements?
>It's supposed to be that, the dynamics that exist between female, and male relationships are constants, they are not set up by societies, they are primal. So whether you believe in them or not, does not change the fact they exist
Why do you believe that?
>My own experiences are proof to myself that this does not need to be the case, I would know, I am someone in a relationship like that
You are myopic.

[Anonymous No.15989180]

>>15989155
>Very interesting, but how do your values align?

Very, we both want the same things out of life. Further our careers to afford a better life quality, and to make a family, enjoy our youth while it lasts, and make good memories together worth remember in the future
>Okay, so the chemicals haven't worn off yet. What will you do when your attraction to her wanes and you begin to have serious disagreements?
I'll always be a rock, ready to have her sit on my lap, listen to her and make her feel like the prettiest, most loved woman on this Earth, but if so happens that we must move in different paths, then so be it, nothing lasts forever. This is what I meant by embracing death. No empire lasts forever.
>Why do you believe that?
My own life experience, and what little I know from evolutionary psychology, and observing other people in society
>You are myopic.
How so?

[Anonymous No.15989301]

>>15989180
>Very, we both want the same things out of life. Further our careers to afford a better life quality, and to make a family, enjoy our youth while it lasts, and make good memories together worth remember in the future
Okay, I understand that you're not going to share much of anything with a stranger on the internet, but has it ever occurred to you that this applies to almost every single person in the developed countries of the world? What is there to distinguish her from anyone else?
>I'll always be a rock, ready to have her sit on my lap, listen to her and make her feel like the prettiest, most loved woman on this Earth, but if so happens that we must move in different paths, then so be it, nothing lasts forever. This is what I meant by embracing death. No empire lasts forever.
1. No you will not. You will get angry. You will want to shout. You will wonder why you ever liked her in the first place. You will sometimes want to hurt her. If you haven't experienced any of these emotions yet, that just means that the chemicals in your brain are doing their job right. But that will one day come to an end. You will one day have to face the fact of living with someone with whom you have irreconcilable differences, be they large or small, and you will have to figure out a way to not allow those to overwhelm the corporate unit that you have created.
2. There are plenty of people who remain married until the day they die. My grandparents have been married for more than half a century now. You seem to think that relationships are destined to come to an end, but not only is that not the case, it is also not the way that our ancestors have lived for most of recorded history. If you view your relationships as by nature impermanent, you will create relationships that cannot possibly last.
>My own life experience, and what little I know from evolutionary psychology, and observing other people in society
What makes you think that your observations of the most degenerate parts of the degenerate society that is twenty-first century America give you any insight into the human condition? Try going to a completely different country and interacting with people whom you would never interact with in the US. You will very quickly find that very few of your universals remain.
>How so?
You read some faggot book written by a degenerate "spiritual guru" and you think you've figured out what life is. You know nothing. You have learned nothing. Go read some of the books that other anons on here recommend and start thinking about what it means to build something that lasts for generations.

[Anonymous No.15989453]

>>15989301
>Okay, I understand that you're not going to share much of anything with a stranger on the internet, but has it ever occurred to you that this applies to almost every single person in the developed countries of the world? What is there to distinguish her from anyone else?
Yeah, I am sure there are plenty of other women as good, or better than her. She doesn't need to be 100% perfect, cause I am not either. We have enough hobbies, and our values align enough that we love each other, what else would we need?
>1. No you will not. You will get angry. You will want to shout. You will wonder why you ever liked her in the first place. You will sometimes want to hurt her. If you haven't experienced any of these emotions yet, that just means that the chemicals in your brain are doing their job right. But that will one day come to an end. You will one day have to face the fact of living with someone with whom you have irreconcilable differences, be they large or small, and you will have to figure out a way to not allow those to overwhelm the corporate unit that you have created.
You are right, storms will come, they always do, but I remain stedfast in my determination. I am open to the pain, and I embrace the end when it comes, regardless of how much it might hurt. I do not ask for a lesser pain, but for stronger will. I love her, I always will.
>2. There are plenty of people who remain married until the day they die. My grandparents have been married for more than half a century now. You seem to think that relationships are destined to come to an end, but not only is that not the case, it is also not the way that our ancestors have lived for most of recorded history. If you view your relationships as by nature impermanent, you will create relationships that cannot possibly last.
Yet my relationships stand strong, our lives bettered by having each other. Whatever comes, will come, there is no reason to fear death
>You read some faggot book written by a degenerate "spiritual guru" and you think you've figured out what life is. |You know nothing. You have learned nothing. Go read some of the books that other anons on here recommend and start thinking about what it means to build something that lasts for generations.

I've read a book, that made me reflect on my life, which drove me to make changes in the way I carried myself, and it resulted in a positive impact for which I am grateful, and by any metric, it has been a positive net. If you find this author to be unworthy of your time, then that is fine. My only hope is that your love life serves as an example to your words, the same way mine does.

[Anonymous No.15989515]

>>15989301
>What makes you think that your observations of the most degenerate parts of the degenerate society that is twenty-first century America give you any insight into the human condition? Try going to a completely different country and interacting with people whom you would never interact with in the US. You will very quickly find that very few of your universals remain.

I missed this, but I'll say I am not actually from the U.S. I was born in North Africa, even tho I am of German descent, I've travelled throughout Europe, Africa, some bits of Asia. My observations come from different cultures, and places. But, most of my experiences actually come from my own experience with women themselves, and how they react and respond to my behaviour.
I've found that women love a man that can listen to her when they feel bad, without giving advice, listen to her and ask questions till they smile again. They love a man that genuinely loves them for who they are, someone that is not controlling, someone that is detached enough they feel free, someone that is not scared to make them feel like a little girl, submissive, given and open to receive your love. And, it is beautiful.
I love women

[Anonymous No.15989553]

>>15988972
you're only able to do this because they're already attracted to you lmao. you didn't change, you just re-calibrated some of your emotions in dealing with women already primed to excuse your faults.

[Anonymous No.15989588]

>>15989553

I don't think you are wrong, change is very difficult. My inner instincts have not changed, but how I express them, and when, certainly has.
You are also not wrong to say some of these women were already attracted to me, but the way I carried myself in the past was not conducive to having long term relationships.that are stress free


However, the woman I am with right now was not initially very attracted to me, it is by my behaviour as months went by that, she truly fell it love with me, which stands in drastic contrast with the way my relationships have always been, and a testament to the changes I made.

[Anonymous No.15990351]

>reading Traditional and hermetic works late at night, sleepy beyond all belief with only coffee keeping you up and you start to wonder if the fact that literally every single creation myth beginning over formless chaotic waters isn't some sort of primordial memory passed down through DNA from fish ancestors that lived before land had life on it

[Anonymous No.15990404]

Cuando tenía 13 años leí Lolita. Ingenuamente me adentré en la historia y adopté a Lolita como un ícono a seguir para mí. Impulsó una actitud precoz (cabe decir que antes de ello yo ya era precoz) pero empecé a juguetear con hombres mayores y al crecer y tener vivencias traumáticas fue que noté que algo no andaba bien. Crecí y aquello quedó en el pasado, pero aveces me pongo a leer la historia de nuevo y me entra mucha melancolía.

[Anonymous No.15990569]

>>15990351
this would make a gorgeous 2001: A space odyssey style film... a face moved upon the waters...

[Anonymous No.15990624]

>>15989588
Well I can't sit here and tell you what is or isn't going in your life. I don't know. I just get sad seeing bros talking about how they made all these big life-changing steps when the hardest step was already made for them in the womb (being an object worthy of feminine desire). I've had enough middling luck in the game to know the the gist of it, how you're invigorated by the attraction of the other person and how they're already pre-disposed to overlook your flaws, anyways. Flaws that would have been an instant deal-breaker for anyone else who wasn't feeling you. Anyone can crack jokes and be spontaneous when the pressure's off. That shit's easy. Even I can do it.

I don't know. I've outgrown idealizing femininity, but you can't outgrow being an abortive male specimen.

Congratulations I guess.

[Anonymous No.15990632]

>>15988514
Books like this.

About death or transference objects. Explained my childhood and why im fucked

[Anonymous No.15990638]

>>15987547
Why would one want to?

[Anonymous No.15990641]

>>15988764
You've just assumed a cultural role of masculinity you dimwit

[Anonymous No.15990665]

>>15988447
did you get the joke he put in there about priest's sons? I think Nietzsche was very aware of the fact that 60% of the time he just wrote whatever he thought up on the toilet that day.

[Anonymous No.15990680]

yes, my diary, desu
when i realized just how futile my life has been so far

[Anonymous No.15990684]

>>15988447
The book “ The Philosophers: Their Lives and the Nature of their Thought” by Ben-Ami Scharfstein is entirely about how the lives of the philosophers influenced their philosophizing. Highly recommend.

[Anonymous No.15990687]

Yes my magnum opus

[Anonymous No.15990698]

>>15988764
>>15988831
>>15988972
>>15989126
>>15989180
>>15989453
>>15989515
After their discussion I would say “dont do drugs kids, maybe its fun but your head will get deep into your own ass”.

[Anonymous No.15990718]

>and rendered you useless in society
Das kapital

[Anonymous No.15991509]

Proclus Commentary on the Parmenides

[Anonymous No.15991514]

>>15988462
That book is critiqued and is not well made or in earnest. He was also a homosexual pedophile unironically. That's why I will never read Foucault, nothing he wrote he did so sincerely, it was all just to make himself feel better that he was a horrible degenerate

[Anonymous No.15991521]

>>15991509

[Anonymous No.15991614]

>>15988806
its over anon. reddit won. its all over

[Anonymous No.15991654]

>>15987688
>I also stopped valuing constructs like "showing up to work on time"
I bet you didn't stop valuing the "leaving work on time" construct, though

[Anonymous No.15991660]

>>15987547
Twilight of the Machines by John Zerzan

[Anonymous No.15991669]

>>15990684
>Stein
>

[Anonymous No.15991673]

>>15987547
120 Days of Sodom. Reading passage after passage of depraved shit for 400 pages really takes a toll

[Anonymous No.15991725]

I read the red book and valis while on a lot of pills day in day out and I have to say its probably the best thing I did for my mental health

[Anonymous No.15992320]

>>15987688
how embarrassing

[Anonymous No.15992474]

>>15990351
Did you get this from The Secret History of the World by Jonathan Black? He makes this exact point.

[jesus No.15992483]

>>15987547
no. carlos castaneda.

[Anonymous No.15992805]

>>15987547
I read The Prince while on a 1g dose of DPH.
The words on the pages changed before my eyes. I became convinced that the Medicis were essentially putting me on some kind of hyper-dimensional criminal trial through the book. It was for the crime of recently reading a book on string theory which I was told by the judge in my book was demonic blasphemy. Terrified, I leafed to the chapter on ecclesiastical principalities and thankfully Jesus saved me. I went on to try to read beyond good an evil, but all the words disappeared, just blank pages and a few spiders. I then just laid in bed and went on holodeck adventures until I passed out.

[Anonymous No.15992812]

>>15988764
Kek, get whipped

[Anonymous No.15993038]

>>15988906
I don;t think you know what you're talking about. The points made in Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution are that tech will inevitably lead to disaster. They also address systemic collapse, and argue why collapse in a few key spots leads to total collapse, as well as why rebuilding would be very very difficult if not impossible. Please read the material and avoid straw-mans before saying uninformed things like "it's an easy hole to climb."

[Anonymous No.15993075]

>>15991614
I can't tell which is worse: boors like the guy ITT who read nothing and live like degenerates, or "educated" men who have read all the fashionable texts in theory, literature, and philosophy, but interact with the world in exactly the same manner as the uneducated boor.

[Anonymous No.15993187]

>>15992474
It was while reading Evola primarily. He doesn't mention anything like that though, just a thought I had.

[Anonymous No.15993301]

>>15990624
>Well I can't sit here and tell you what is or isn't going in your life. I don't know. I just get sad seeing bros talking about how they made all these big life-changing steps when the hardest step was already made for them in the womb (being an object worthy of feminine desire)

I am not particularly attractive, I'd rate myself below avg in looks. Even then some women will still find you attractive enough to talk to you, and making them fall in love with you will be harder than if you were handsome, but it can be done overtime.

That's how I made the woman I am with fall in love, it was a gradual process. She's way prettier than I am

[Anonymous No.15993326]

>>15987547
When i was like 14 and read the selfish gene i remember looking at my mother and questioning why i felt attached to her.

[Anonymous No.15993525]

>>15990698
I totally agree,
>>15988764
>>15988831
>>15988972
>>15989126
>>15989180
>>15989453
>>15989515
Is remarkably braindead. NYT Bestseller list tier anecdote-book "changed his life"? Check. Druggy? Check. Fornicator? Check. Thinks fornication is any better than doing drugs and playing vidya? Check. Braindead pseud platitudes and low IQ syntax? Check.
To braindead anon, get married to her and have white children. Until you do that your relationship is totally meaningless hedonism and you are nothing but a plugged-in vagina worshipper. I think that's what >>15988924 partially meant when he said " If you're still thinking in terms of being an 'emotional bitch' and 'being a man,' you are still caught in the trap that this world has set for you. If you cast aside those concepts completely, you will be even freer." You still think of false PUA dichotomies like they even matter because you're just a vagina worshipper.

[Anonymous No.15993730]

>>15993525
>>15990698

>Imagine taking advice from people who are incapable of seducing a woman, and despite any views on females that are not incel copes.
Think what you will.
Being an Inceil does not make you smarter, wiser or special. It just means you are missing out on having great experiences in life because you are too afraid to get hurt, or feel rejected.
I'll have children with this women when the time is right, a.k.a when we both are finished with our studies, and have a good quality of life to settle down and provide good opportunities to our off spring. Having children right away is for niggers.

[Anonymous No.15993958]

>>15987547
I have read "Natuurkundige verhandeling over het verschil in de wezenstrekken in menschen van onderscheidene landaart en ouderdom" by Petrus Camper a 18th century Dutch scientists.

Basically the treatise is about early discoveries in cranology, where he proves negroes have a sloping forehead etc.

Well, what blew my mind is that about 1/3 of the treatise deals with art and he writes down that its his love of painting and sculpturing and comparing different heads gave him the idea to compare different skull types, also he goes into theories on what is beautiful and sublime.

I know understand why leftists hate realist art, it leads to race realism.

[Anonymous No.15993986]

>>15990351
>>15992474
>>15993187

You people are being stupid, its an memory of being in the fluid filled womb.

[Anonymous No.15994017]

>>15987547
Reading Ishmael in middle school made me such a massive anti-semite that it makes my current anti-semitism pale in comparison.
I literally took the mic in a Christmas play at my catholic school to talk about the perils of Judaism

[Anonymous No.15994033]

Crime and Punishment made me so depressed I dropped out of college.

[Anonymous No.15994120]

I have no memory of my life prior to six days ago. All I remember is waking up in a tiny room made of unfurnished, unpainted steel plates, with a thin layer of rust creeping in at the joints between each one, with no windows, just a heavy-looking metal door inset in one of the walls, with no apparent handle. There was nothing in the room except a blue chair made of iron bars crudely nailed together, and the tired old canvas sleeping bag stained with who knows what that I'd been sleeping in. I'd been awake only a few minutes when I heard an electronic buzzing sound, and the door opened to reveal a tall, gaunt man in a viscera-covered lab coat and mirrored sunglasses. I couldn't see his eyes, but I felt him stare deep into my soul as said in his cruel, strange accent, "recite our holy words". I opened my mouth, intending to complain that I had no idea what he meant, but I heard myself say in a hoarse voice, "For the purposes of understanding the complex network of race, gender, and class oppressions that constitute our global modernity it is very rewarding to attend to the evolution of the apartheid policies of the South African regime, since apartheid is directed towards the construction of a microcosm of the neo-colonial order; a recapitulation of the world in mi–" I clasped my hands over my mouth in horror at these alien words, which had come from some strange, unknown, perhaps unknowable voice whispering bizarre thoughts into my mind; but the gaunt man, giving the faintest hint of a smile, took some kind of strange radio device from his pocket and murmured something into the microphone. He threw a plastic bin liner at my feet, filled with notepads and cheap biro pens, and, in that same uncaring tone, told me, "you may wish to get some things off your chest. The voice within shall inform you." He left the room, the door sealing with that same electronic buzzing as before. With nothing else I could possibly do, knowing that the door would not open for any effort I could muster, I sat in that cold, unforgiving chair and began to write in those notepads. Over the next three days, I did nothing but furiously scrawl the insane ramblings of that foreign psychic presence into these cheap booklets, trying not to read what my hand was so intensely compelled to put out into this world, but my eyes were drawn to the madness of what I wrote; O, such madness! The sentience of capital, the pre-zoological nature of schizophrenia, a letter to one Captain Peter Vysparov– what bizarre nonsense was this? I wrote for days on end, without food or water, until my hand bled and black ichor oozed from my mouth and nose. When finally I could write no more, I felt a bizarre relief as I heard that electronic buzz, and the gaunt man entered once more, flanked by two figures in balaklavas and flak jackets. He picked up one of the notepads and flicked through it, nodding in quiet appreciation. "Finally," he said, "a mind that could take the strain."

[Anonymous No.15994196]

i was possessed to read over 4000 pages of systematic calvinist theology for no particular reason

[Anonymous No.15994233]

No but the closest thing that comes to mind is Rene Guenon's book "Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times".

The author is memed quite heavily on here, but the main thing that struck me with that book was the way in which he completely smashed my closely held belief in the Atomist-worldview. His close examination left me with no doubts that the whole world of modern science has made a crucial foundational mistake when they assume that the natural world is built up out of so-called elementary particles. From a very young age I hade been marinated in this particular way of viewing the natural world, and Guenon's meticulous explanation of the mistake of this assumption just crushed my mind to a pulp leaving me with no sure foundation. I couldn't trust "science" any more, it became evident in every single article I read and speaker I listened to that they were all operating under a fatal mis-conclusion.

From that point on I completely understood what is comprehended by the terms "paranormal" or "metaphysics", and it was to me like stepping behind a curtain, and looking in at a whole other world hitherto believed to be a dream, a world of entities and shapes that to most people are commonly disregarded. There is no difference between me and a "crazy man" or a "schizo"; The question now is: Can I keep myself alive and sane and healthy, operating in a way that most other people deem "normal", having attained this knowledge? All I know, is that I can never un-know what I now know. The change has taken place on the deepest level of my being. This is why the ancients believed that books were magical items.

[Anonymous No.15994326]

>>15987688
I did that without reading anything, just thinking while being depressed.

[Anonymous No.15994431]

>>15988751
How is Merquior a "specialist" though? you mentioned some "specialists" totally refuting Foucault's work from a supposed higher ground of competence. Or maybe you just took the Paglia pill?

[Anonymous No.15995062]

>>15987547
Friend of mine read a Danish book called Pseudo-work (it only exists in Danish as far as I know) - the book details how most jobs are meaningless because their only function is to create more work for actual useful jobs. A lot of office jobs are like this. My friend was deeply affected because she felt like her job fit their description of pseudo-work 100%. I know it's not what you're after but I still found it interesting.

[Anonymous No.15995107]

>>15995062
It's a simple premise, but it's true. Many "jobs" in the modern world are just there to keep people in a "job". They don't produce anything of real value, except keeping people occupied. It's something of a queer phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.15995146]

>>15987547
HAVE YOU EVER HAD AN INSANE THAT LITERALLY MADE YOU READ A BOOK?

[Anonymous No.15995241]

German Idealism is the most mind melting and alien thing there is. If you explained it to someone today without mentioning its origins, you would probably be labelled schizophrenic.

[Anonymous No.15995440]

>>15990684
I don’t think one could have a more jewish name

[Anonymous No.15995524]

>>15995241
>German idealism
Can i get the quickest possible rundown on this?

[Anonymous No.15995743]

>>15987547
retard

[Anonymous No.15995835]

>>15995743
No u. Ha! Gotcha

[Anonymous No.15995844]

>>15995062
Is it like the book I've heard of called Bullshit Jobs?

[Anonymous No.15995853]

>>15995524
No.

[Anonymous No.15995883]

>>15995853
You're a schizo

[Anonymous No.15995894]

>>15995853
Fair enough.

[Anonymous No.15995899]

>>15994017
>I literally took the mic in a Christmas play at my catholic school to talk about the perils of Judaism
Kek, pretty based

[Anonymous No.15995905]

>>15995844
I just googled Bullshit Jobs. I wasn't familiar with it. I guess it is mostly the same, yes. I haven't read the Danish book I mentioned, I only know of it through my friend.

[Anonymous No.15995952]

Bohme and Damascius

[Anonymous No.15996010]

>>15994017
Ishmael, the book with the telepathic gorilla who wants us to return to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle?

[Anonymous No.15996047]

>>15996010
Yes, but more like talking gorilla that hates jews and suggests we should do the White Man's burden but as Humanity's Burden to uplift and teach all other animals due to our responsibility as the first born.

[Anonymous No.15996082]

Dostoevsky's "Notes from Underground" made me go insane. As the thoughts and actions of the protagonist spiraled down into an abyss of self inflicted suffering, I as the reader could feel the decline of my own self which was brought on me through the empathy I had for the protagonist. Although I have to acknowledge that the protagonist as well as myself weren't in a sane condition in the first place.

[Anonymous No.15996458]

>>15987547
Katawa Shoujo is kind of a book. It made me feel human emotions and I absolutely hated that.

[Anonymous No.15996837]

>>15993986
Only reason why I probably didn't go there is because most other common mythological events are VERY easy to relate to other paleolithic events. So it made sense to keep thinking down that same line.

[Anonymous No.15997090]

>>15996837
>paleolithic

[Anonymous No.15998162]

>>15987547
not insane but Ubik made me extremely uncomfortable.

[Anonymous No.15998195]

>>15998162
I just started VALIS, have you read it? If so, how does it compare?

[Anonymous No.15998690]

>>15998195
Different Anon
VALIS is goofy rambling compared to Ubik which has much more nuance. Ubik is a mindfuck anyone can enjoy, VALIS is only really enjoyed if you're in some schizo phase.

[Anonymous No.15998723]

>>15988514
It definitely had an effect on me for a while, might have something to do with my overall personality and thinking though.

I didn't care too much about the detailed descriptions of symbolism and such but I liked how it tried to strip all the BS about our perceptions about and around death away. Something that I already felt and then this book had the exact same message. In no way did it help me overcome my fears though, even in the long term.

[Anonymous No.15998964]

>>15987688
Nice.

[Anonymous No.15999335]

>>15987547
Read a book that have 180 degrees point of view on things from your natural environment view, then wait.

[Anonymous No.15999778]

>>15994233
you said a lot of shit here without saying anything of substance anon. what the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.16001398]

>>15999778
He's some schizo who read another schizo, that's all

[Anonymous No.16001437]

[Anonymous No.16002807]

>>15998690
Good thing I’m in a schizo phase

[Anonymous No.16003510]

>>15987547
this is the faggiest board on 4chan

[Anonymous No.16003547]

>>15988605
pseuds don’t spaz out in front of friends and family, pseud

[Anonymous No.16003713]

>>15994233
top fucking kek

[Anonymous No.16004138]

>>15994233
This is an excellent post. in the past it would get 100 yous, but the past is gone.
I feel the same way after reading Guenon. it eases off after a while. Sometimes i feel scared, so I pray, and that helps, because I know that bad things are powerless in the face of God.

Guenon changed my life too. by the standards of the moderns, things are much worse for me. but in Gods eyes, things are better.

[Anonymous No.16004163]

>>15994196
I hope you're a Calvinist

[Anonymous No.16004168]

>>15990404
puto

[Anonymous No.16004208]

>>15995241
I feel the same

[Anonymous No.16004459]

> ctrl+f
> 0 results for Foucault’s Pendulum

I thought this board was based.

[Anonymous No.16004470]

Ulysses

[Anonymous No.16005112]

>>15992805
>doing DPH beyond a few pills
doesn't it literally melt your brain at those doses? even recommended doses cause minor memory issues over time.

[Anonymous No.16005131]

industrial society and its future fucked my world view irreparably
worst mistake of my life

[Anonymous No.16005196]

>>15987547
Cringey, I know, but reading Catcher in the Rye uncovered some childhood trauma of mine so it put me in a state for about a month.

[Anonymous No.16005235]

>>15988305

[Anonymous No.16005495]

>>16005131
Yeah I’d have to agree. I had thoughts similar to Ted’s before reading it but afterwards I was fucked

[Anonymous No.16005642]

>>15996458
I felt emotions too thanks to KS. Currently replaying it and I feel so crushed every time I finish a route. I don't even know why.

[Anonymous No.16005654]

>>15987547
Anti-Oedipus or Spinal Catastrophism and being a based /nosleep/er. It wasn't fun though, don't recommend

[Anonymous No.16005675]

>>15996458
>t.

[Anonymous No.16005707]

Lisez Marx, Engels, Hegel, Debord et Bordigua. Ils agrègent une radicalité du redéploiement cosmique naturaliste. Leur dialectique universelle de la jouissance sacrale offre une schématique ontologique de distanciation insurrectionnelle régénérant la discussion du vrai-jouir dévoilé. Toutes les facticités du monothéisme réificateur fallacieux hédoniste aliène la conscience humaine dans le narcissisme pathogène de la rente nomadiste. Nous sommes choses bestialisées dans la grande cinématographie industrielle du faux médiatique. Nous sommes tous des âmes perdues dans la démocratie pornographique du pulsionnel imagé. La bureaucratie policière du factice frauduleux divise nos esprits dans une périodicité servile de néant névrotique. Le cosmopolitisme de la marchandise produit une déliquescence dictatoriale du jacassé boulimique de toutes les psychiatries déambulatoires. La logique formelle du capitalisme régente nos quotidiennetés banalisées dans le piège médiatique du supermarché nombriliste. La théâtralité spectaculaire de la marchandise abreuve nos consciences égarées dans la nébuleuse étatique de la fétichisation mortifere.
Divorcons d'avec le totalitarisme de la marchandise ! Ressuscitons la dialectique hegelienne de la totalité cosmique générique universelle sacrale face aux impostures constitutionnelles de la cathédrale idéologique de l'imposture chosificatoire du marché.

[Anonymous No.16005932]

>>15987547
Augustine's confessions

[Anonymous No.16006592]

>>15987688
This is why sub 125IQ shouldn't ready seriously

[Anonymous No.16006600]

>>16005707
What's with all the gibberish, did you have a stroke or something?

[Anonymous No.16006710]

>>15993525
There's nothing wrong with being shallow or liking popular things or writing mundane thoughts. Those are all a part of life. If somebody doesn't want to explore deeper, they don't have to. It might be the wrong time for him and you're bitchy attitude might push him into a stage he isn't ready for.

[Anonymous No.16006720]

>>15988337
Racism is one of the oldest and worthless constructs

[Anonymous No.16006761]

>>15987676
Hey, I have that book! What is it about?

[Anonymous No.16006857]

>>16004459
>greatest occult text written recently
its pretty based anon, but it doesn't quite meet OPs criteria (not that the other books itt do)

[Anonymous No.16007811]

>>15987547
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

[Anonymous No.16007902]

>>15988886
Dependency exists in every single organic system that is not toxic, and sometimes even when it is destructive. If you go out looking for ways in which any given organism is "enslaved" to an object, force or separate organism I guarantee that you will find countless such examples in both directions. You are affected in this way because you have ordered your mind to conform to Abrahamic philosophy. Accept that you are not above the natural world. Affirm that all that exists is part of a whole and you will be less prone to Lovecraftian paranoia.

[Anonymous No.16008284]

>>15989146
You should be questioning your own agenda by trying to desperately take Foucault down a notch by ad hominem and Wikipedia citations if all things and no specific arguments of your own

[Anonymous No.16008331]

This wasn't a very fun read, I was already depressed/isolated/on drugs to begin with

[Anonymous No.16008369]

>>15987547

Malte Lairids Brugge rilke

[Anonymous No.16008379]

>>16008331
I was depressed cause of a shitty home situation from 18-22, and I listened to that book on audiobook because I heard it was bleak enough to make people kill themselves, and I was ready to test whether I still had a will to live.

Didn't depress me that much. Found it fairly eye-opening that all the things we find pleasurable in this world are actually sadistic tools of some Lovecraftian vision of evolution as a cosmic god that forces us to continue to endure suffering for the sake of these built-in rewards.

That my very desires for life and death itself, were but tools for its ultimate idiot-god purpose.....

...... cozy shit

I'm doing much better now. Going back to uni, got away from my family and got my own apartment, a few years of therapy, got a goodish job. Reconciling with my ex gf - but not the ex gf I wanted, but hey that's life.

I'm gonna buy a cat and call it Nigger in honour of Lovecraft.

>>15987547
Read Nick Land and then go fuck your whore mother.

[Anonymous No.16008440]

>>15987547
Nearly.
Back in 1993 read "Atlas Shrugged" AKA the Capitalist Manifesto.
It made me hate a lot of things, it was an ugly book about entitled self-destructive people whose bigotry is so intense they believe themselves gods.

[Anonymous No.16008720]

>>16008331
I was so close to an hero while reading this book. For the sake my own mental health I dropped it.

[Anonymous No.16010150]

>>16008720
It's not so scary anon... once you realize all your desires are just a puppeting act meant to make you suffer for the purpose of an unfeeling evolutionary process... you're a lot more free to not be bothered by them.
Lust controls you a bit less, you go mgtow, spend your days gardening and cultivating an empty mind. Gucci.

[Anonymous No.16010745]

>>16010150

Already bought the book from Amazon.

Not the guy you replying to... But I don't want that... gardening and cultivation and stuff.... is there no hope for me then?

I want to do what I've been doing every day for the rest of my life.

I wake up. Take a big hit from my bong. Do some yoga. Read a book like most of the ones listed here (I also love ATP). Play video games for the rest of the day. Listen to ASMR between gaming sessions and take my daily dose of bedtime sissy hypno videos. Sex has been really hard to get during quarantine, used to have an FWB who eventually became my girl, she gave up everything and just submitted herself... my girl... She would watch anime with me and even do sexy cosplay, long as I could afford it (was a bike messenger, low pay but it was all I could do), but also loved to cook for me, but she suddenly died from OD. I blame my ignorance for not seeing the signs...

I just want what I have right now... I don't wanna lose anything else.

Anons am I fucked?

[Anonymous No.16010802]

>>16008440
>t. leech

[Anonymous No.16011689]

>>15991725
tell me more

[Anonymous No.16011744]

>>15994233
>From that point on I completely understood what is comprehended by the terms "paranormal" or "metaphysics", and it was to me like stepping behind a curtain, and looking in at a whole other world hitherto believed to be a dream, a world of entities and shapes that to most people are commonly disregarded.
I had a very similar experience with Evola's Revolt Against the Modern World. There's no going back.