Books that explain why such an economic idea would be bad?

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Anonymous Tue Jul 28 01:55:01 2020 No.15980955 [Reply] [Original]

Books that explain why such an economic idea would be bad?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 01:56:08 2020 No.15980959 >>15980955 Please don’t reply to this thread if you see this anon, let this be the only reply. OP, please take this bait to /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 01:56:50 2020 No.15980962 File: 9 KB, 248x203, 2342342.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15980959 >Please don’t reply to this thread if you see this anon, let this be the only reply. OP, please take this bait to /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:03:13 2020 No.15980995 >>15980955 Here: "Okay, cool idea. I'll just move my factory to another country that doesn't have that policy. Enjoy your socialist paradise."

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:07:56 2020 No.15981024 >>15980995 That's why such policies should be implemented globally so smart asses like you will be punished in every country of the world. Fuck offshores.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:08:41 2020 No.15981029 >>15980995 >billionaire >one factory Why do both marxists and capitalists talk about capitalism in terms of 19th century industrialism?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:08:44 2020 No.15981030 >>15980959 >i'mplying op isn't a mod pushing political discussion to compete with the philosophy threads currently up

>>	jesus Tue Jul 28 02:11:04 2020 No.15981046 >>15980955 it is bad to sponsor bad people.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:13:18 2020 No.15981057

>>15981024
Nobody loves borders more than left wing people. Why should greedy foreigners get the money that rightfully belongs to your true-born compatriots? How dare these backwards shitholes disobey the US government?

>>15981029
Simplicity. The factories are already offshore, it would take a stroke of a pen to change the tax status of a company.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:13:28 2020 No.15981060 >>15981024 >we have to have totalitarian control of the entire planet because everyone keeps running away from us so we need to remove all places they can run to Do you really not see why nobody likes you

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:14:03 2020 No.15981064

Do these people honestly think that billionaires are hoarding cash like Scrooge McDuck? They own a business or multiple businesses that is worth the billions and employs tens of thousands of people and makes the poors' life better by making everything cheaper and more affordable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:15:53 2020 No.15981082 >>15981064 Left wing people don't know what investment is or why it is universally preferable to saving (hoarding.) No surprise there, since they're mostly baristas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:18:46 2020 No.15981103 File: 69 KB, 768x647, ruccio-and-jamie-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15981064

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:24:38 2020 No.15981131 >>15981103 Those certainly are lines. And yeah, I'd like a vanilla milkshake with a shot of espresso in it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:28:24 2020 No.15981148 >>15981103 What happened around 1985?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:31:34 2020 No.15981159 >>15981148 stock market shit

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:32:22 2020 No.15981163

>>15981148
If I had to guess, business owners began offshoring their factories to China and making gigantic profits from cheap Chinese labor, since they could keep their old high prices based on the expense of Western labor.

Can't believe these baristas think they're worth $10 an hour. I could buy a Chinaman on installment for $10 per day and he'd be willing to sleep on the shop floor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:32:36 2020 No.15981164 >>15981103 Wealth inequality doesn't mean Jeff Bezos has a pool of gold coins, retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:33:45 2020 No.15981166 >>15981163 Chinamen? Automation will be the wagie's death.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:34:18 2020 No.15981168 >>15980955 High risk, low reward idea.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:35:08 2020 No.15981173

Even assuming that the billionaire is not allowed to move to another country, I think there is an even bigger issue, namely that his wealth is probably mostly noncash and in terms of other assets.
A lot of the wealth that is assigned to them is used for business purposes to reinvest it and to develop the business. If you put a cap you essentially stifle the growth of all of his businesses.
Artificial stifling of growth = less efficient economy and translates to a lot of consumer cost.
How are you sure that the value you get from the money going to schools and health care will be greater than that if the money was reinvested to develop the business?
You don't.
I think a lot of these problems could be stopped if people just stopped being fat and nonwhites were put to work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:36:59 2020 No.15981176 >>15981164 Why are you so adamant that such a thing needs to be the case before a high-wealth tax can be implemented? Who, except for you, claimed that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:37:16 2020 No.15981180 >>15981024 NWO used to be what the punk kids raged against. Now they are demanding it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:39:12 2020 No.15981192 >>15981148 I believe there was an immigration act passed. Cheap work flooded in from the southern americas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:39:32 2020 No.15981195 >>15980955 >red cent

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:41:29 2020 No.15981207

>>15981166
Oh boy will it ever. I'm not going to hang around a place with half the population on welfare.

If Bitcoin (or a future analog) goes mainstream for architects, engineers, consultants, doctor's diagnoses, etc, then that's the end of income tax for high earning professionals, at a time when welfare spending goes through the roof. Something has to give. I don't intend to experience the consequences of that.

I'm sure someone on Twitter will have an idea that saves the day, though. Just as long as someone else pays for it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:41:35 2020 No.15981209

>>15981064
>They own a business or multiple businesses that is worth the billions
Yes, because it makes them even more money, which they hoard like scrooge

>and employs tens of thousands of people
Which they are happy to fire and replace with robots wherever possible.
>makes the poors' life better by making everything cheaper and more affordable
Then why is everything getting only more expensive?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:42:09 2020 No.15981212 >>15981192 More like from Mexico, really.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:42:13 2020 No.15981213

>>15981173
>If you put a cap you essentially stifle the growth of all of his businesses. Artificial stifling of growth = less efficient economy and translates to a lot of consumer cost.
Artificial stifling of single-company monopolies stimulates competition and creates better products. Not necessarily talking about a wealth tax on individuals here, but stifling single companies can be necessary.

Do you know why nearly all eyeglasses you can buy are of completely shit quality? Because Luxottica sits on the entire market, do killer acquisitions of any start-up that attempts to make a better product, and are thus able to sell you plastic shit made by chinese slaves at a 10000% markup of production cost.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:42:27 2020 No.15981215 >>15980995 Oh you mean like they already do lol By all means go ahead and push more out they'll all do it eventually if they can

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:44:45 2020 No.15981229 >>15981192 Nevermind that was 1965 not 85, while im probably still right to a degree >>15981163 is probably more correct. Chinese multinat factories were spooling up around then, and japan was already in the midst of its economic boom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:46:23 2020 No.15981237 Billionaires should all be shot. Not one of them got where they are by "hard work and perseverance", but by fucking over other people, scamming, lying, bribing, and betraying. They all have human lives on their conscience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:46:45 2020 No.15981238 >>15981213 Interesing shot video on Luxottica https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voUiWOGv8ec

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:47:22 2020 No.15981243

i think the irony is, besides complaining on social media, what the hell are these people doing themselves towards improving social matters? id respect a poor person a million times more who starts his own fundraiser or charity to help others rather than forcing someone else to do it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:49:17 2020 No.15981250 >>15981237 You must be 18 to post here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:50:55 2020 No.15981259 >>15981243 Theyve been trying to burn down a federal court building for the last 61 days if that counts. Granted, half of them are yuppies with leaf blowers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:56:11 2020 No.15981280 >>15981250 So get out

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:04:31 2020 No.15981321 >>15981180 Punk kids were always known for their intelligence and rationality. You're romanticizing an aesthetic with a cornerstone of contrarianism. Punk cannot be anything but reactionary and is never innovative.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:04:44 2020 No.15981322 >>15980995 um we already moved all the factories to a socialist country

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:11:46 2020 No.15981373 >>15980955 What (besides envy) is the difference for you if these trillions are earned by one or shared by few people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:15:09 2020 No.15981391 >>15980955 any basic economics textbook for one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLwANVtnkA

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:17:34 2020 No.15981399 >>15981024 lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:23:20 2020 No.15981426 >>15981213 >>15981238 A youtube video! That means it must be true! And there's nothing more to know on the matter, or else it would have been in the youtube video!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:24:02 2020 No.15981432 >>15981426 Post your WAIS-IV score or fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:24:24 2020 No.15981434 >>15981322 where grandmas collect cardboard to pay for food, lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:24:34 2020 No.15981436 >>15980955 Because schools are bad. John Taylor Gatto.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:24:47 2020 No.15981437 Why do you think that you have more decision power than billionaires or aristocracy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:25:28 2020 No.15981442 >>15981426 haven't watched the video, but the guy made no particular claims about it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:29:49 2020 No.15981468 >>15981426 this kills the sophomoric posturing plebs (and makes them seethe lmao) >NOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN A PROPAGANDA PIECE ON CBS ISN'T 100% REFLECTIVE OF REALITY? NOOOO

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:31:35 2020 No.15981478 >>15981426 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:34:56 2020 No.15981495 >>15981060 >totalitarian control Taxes are all about that.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:35:16 2020 No.15981499
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>>15981468
>implying Luxottica doesn't dominate the glasses market
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anaswanson/2014/09/10/meet-the-four-eyed-eight-tentacled-monopoly-that-is-making-your-glasses-so-expensive/#205818e06b66

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:37:28 2020 No.15981511 >>15981426 Well what else is there to know? Literally everybody knows the glasses industry is a big scam and it's because there is nothing else to it it's a reality that's as plausible as it is mundane

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:47:04 2020 No.15981572 >>15980955 imagine needing a book for that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:47:52 2020 No.15981578 >>15981280 >no u lurk more newfag

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:50:32 2020 No.15981591 File: 182 KB, 1442x900, 27.144277-Okeechobee-FL-2008-2011-Custom-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15981434 yes there are no poor people in america are there

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:51:17 2020 No.15981594 >>15980955 It ignores basic human nature to evade tax

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:58:09 2020 No.15981613 >>15981594 That nature is successfully defeated by tax collectors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:10:38 2020 No.15981649 MUH CHEAPER GOODS uhh housing, health care, education, etc... have not

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:10:40 2020 No.15981650 >>15981176 >high-wealth tax can be implemented Because that's what lead to the graph you posted in the first place you severely retarded marxist

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:19:22 2020 No.15981683

>>15981591
You hate those losers far more than I ever could for their racism and homophobia, as you would put it. Not to speak of their poor taste in interior decor.

But who cares? My point was that China has less of a social safety net than any country commonly called capitalist. They're the nearest thing to a Fascist state the modern world has, but I guess they get a pass from you because of their epicanthic folds.

You're that open minded about funny-looking charity cases; it'd be like holding someone with Down's syndrome to the same moral standard as normal people like you. Down's lives matter, and they didn't really mean to burn those buildings, or if they did, they had good intentions, or if they didn't, then it's not really their fault because they were born with certain disadvantages. If you say otherwise, you'll never serve a mochaccino in this town again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:22:22 2020 No.15981701 >>15981683 >They're the nearest thing to a Fascist state the modern world has North Korea?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj Tue Jul 28 04:22:28 2020 No.15981702 >>15981613 Tax collectors are successfully defeated by the billionaire buying the government. State and capital are intricately intertwined. Take them out together.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:26:49 2020 No.15981716 >>15981701 Fascism is characterized by collaboration between the state and (large) private interests. Private interests in NK are largely clandestine; someone who sells tomatoes is practically a drug dealer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:30:40 2020 No.15981729 >>15981716 >Fascism is characterized by collaboration between the state and (large) private interests. That sounds a lot like the USA.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:36:57 2020 No.15981766

>>15981729
the collaboration has to be to the degree of the military heavily being involved in the allocation of resources, or something to that effect, which may sound somewhat like the USA but generally it has to be to the degree that countries like Nazi Germany had it for the label to be appropriate

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:37:55 2020 No.15981771

>>15981729
That's one of the characteristics that distinguishes it from pure feudalism of the NK type.

The US govt, for better or worse, is susceptible to influences from outside its direct control. There is no necessity of working your way up through a party hierarchy: witness the abrupt incursion of The T Man. Weirdo nobodies can influence policy and not end up under house arrest: witness Bernie, despite all the torturous punishments Hillary has dreamt up for him. When was the last time you heard of "infighting" in China?

I'm not pro-govt. Frankly, governments have had their day. They are territorial entities that are about as relevant as mayoralties or parishes. They make no sense in a world of instant digital communication and instant digital economy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:41:09 2020 No.15981786 >people actually defending billionaires

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:43:39 2020 No.15981794 >>15981786 Leftists will act like they are fighting the billionaires, but in the process billionaires will end unharmed but 99% people above minimum wage will be dekulakised.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:44:04 2020 No.15981797 >>15981786 What would you do if you were a billionare?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:44:40 2020 No.15981799 >>15981786 Worse, there's marxist retard itt that would rather shoot you and people still defend them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:47:20 2020 No.15981816 >>15981786 is there any actual self-made billionaire in the USA? So far I only know of Jobs. Bezos=had Texas oil money. Gates=born rich. (((Zuckerberg)))=need I need to say more? And so on.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:49:02 2020 No.15981828

>>15981797
probably organize a bunch of thinktanks to dish out propaganda to make the population think im a generous kind person and make more money for me, meanwhile, hire assassins and stuff to try and take out other billionaires so that i'm the top dog. idk, there's a lot i'd do and i can't think of everything, probably fund another thinktank to think of things to increase my power

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:54:45 2020 No.15981862 >>15981786 I'm defending your dad who has to pay your pitiful ass's rent. Billionaires are just symbolic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:54:55 2020 No.15981864 >>15980955 it probably isn't, the text related only people who earn above 999mil suffer, the rest benefit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:56:26 2020 No.15981872 >>15981862 >Billionaires are just symbolic. LOL

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:57:23 2020 No.15981879

>>15981864
My country has welfare caps on people who earn a certain amount of money.

Guess what? When welfare recipients get close to that threshold, they start working less and taking days off out of fear their welfare will be cut.

What use for your territorial entity, exactly, is it if someone is reluctant to become a billionaire and get taxed into the grave?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:57:29 2020 No.15981881 >>15981771 What do you propose instead of governments

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:58:36 2020 No.15981889 >>15981881 Personal bunkers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:58:48 2020 No.15981891 >>15981879 I don't want people to be billionaires or even want to become billionaires, people purposefully earning under the cap would make me happy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:01:32 2020 No.15981896 why do leftists always cover for millionaires, is it because of Bernie? is it because of their own wealthy backgrounds?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:01:57 2020 No.15981897 >>15981872 Yes. Real power belongs to aristocracy and billionaires are either its members or just their moneybags.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:03:05 2020 No.15981904 >>15981896 Bernie is self-made.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:04:51 2020 No.15981911 >>15981896 same reason they also happily buy iphones, have facebook accounts, use amazon - most of them are nothing more than surface level

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:05:53 2020 No.15981919

>>15981702
Didn't that one guy spend hundreds of millions on his election without getting anywhere at all? So much for being able to buy an election. Your mother is a walking urinal for men like me, now open your filthy whore mouth and DRINK MY PISS YOU UGLY CUNT

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:06:34 2020 No.15981924 >>15981904 >Bernie is self-made. so what? he should give that money to black people

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:08:37 2020 No.15981937 >>15981904 >steals tax money for his seven homes >self made The absolute state of the left

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:10:05 2020 No.15981943 >>15981937 >sells books >makes money and buys 2 other houses besides his main one what's the problem here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:12:04 2020 No.15981953 >>15981943 no one needs enough wealth to buy 3 houses

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:13:24 2020 No.15981959 >>15981943 idk if i were a socialist i'd feel like a great big fraud owning three houses while others live in tents

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:16:34 2020 No.15981977 File: 411 KB, 1259x2022, 81mD8WXSiNL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15980955 Billionaires should learn from this guy

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:18:08 2020 No.15981985

i once suggested to my lefty friends that since real top down change is unlikely someone should just make a redistribution app that works out who's earning too much and sends that money directly to those earning less, but they thought that was the most absurd idea and starting talking about democratically-run workplaces, i think they just want to micromanage people's lives while keeping all their own money

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:18:11 2020 No.15981986 >>15981148 Dollar got taken off the gold standard I believe, turning money into debt.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:22:23 2020 No.15982004

>>15981985
I have this problem a lot with other leftists, I spend minimally and give about 30% of monthly earnings to charity (after bills) and when they say shit like jeff bezos giving x to charity is like me giving £5 I aksed when was the last time they gave a fiver to charity and they started kicking off about "oh well I don't have a lot of money, it's not practical" then I pointed out they spent £50 on alcohol just that night alone and have given away about a fivers worth of shots to other people and no one thought I was in the right so now I'm not sure if I am but I think it boils down to "it's easy to spend money you don't have"/"it's easy to spend someone elses money for them"

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:25:42 2020 No.15982024

>>15981872
>doesn't deny that his dad pays his rent

>>15981881
Zilch. Personal trust and reputation, if anything. Police and fire privatized locally. Criminal sentences remain as they are since violent yahoos don't understand law or extradition treaties; thugs still think govt is a thing, nobody disabuse them of the notion. Excommunication from the digital economy the equivalent of a life sentence for clever thugs. Ineffective for the cleverest, but it's not as if that's not already the case in the cash economy.

Health? I'm from a place with a pretty okay socialized health service, and I still prefer paying for it in SEA. Apparently Hungary is also good for dentistry, can't vouch for it personally.

This is not a great year for us international playboys, but I've come out of this shit with more loathing for government than I have ever had. I isolated, sure, not knowing the severity of this new illness. I would not do anything different. But now that we know within reasonable doubt, governments still drag their feet, deathly afraid of contradicting their own sanctified word. They are too embarrassed to admit that they were wrong; or else they simply represent one faction, an unexpected faction: people over the age of fifty. They are willing to flush our lives down the toilet to avoid the smallest personal risk. Who knew that boomers could get more repulsive?

>>15981891
You're as much as saying you'd like nobody to find a way to make food cheaper, manufactures less expensive, or machines more efficient. Would you like a 10% price hike, not to speak of wasted time or worse solutions, if some magic money number doesn't exist to make you feel bad? Considering inflation and different radical systems of numerology, such a number is arbitrary beyond words. We count money in base ten, but seconds in base sixty, etc, yet your envy battens onto one. Which did you chose? Choice wasn't involved, anon, I hate to break it to you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:27:09 2020 No.15982033 >>15982024 >doesn't deny that his dad pays his rent all my money is going to school so i can get a degree and get rejected from employment for not having experience

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:31:10 2020 No.15982043 >>15980955 Why do you think that you should have the product of someone else's labour? What a shitty philosophical idea.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:31:23 2020 No.15982046

>>15981434
I live in China as an English teacher. There is a social safety net: family -- i.e. having one. The Chinese are very proud of their child-subsidy, they just cut you a check upfront and expect you to be fiscally responsible with the "child stimulus". Some people decide to start a business with it, others gamble it away, others invest it, etc etc. It doesn't always get piggy-banked away.

In most cases those old people collecting cardboard (cans, oil, other various trash items that can be scrapped or re-used) are doing so because they made a show of aborting their children during the cultural revolution as a way to show solidarity under Mao. That ended up having certain after-effects 40 years later -- like not having children to support you or not getting a nice fat stimulus (retroactively paid in 1988 for popping out 1(!) child)

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:31:25 2020 No.15982047

>>15982024
>You're as much as saying you'd like nobody to find a way to make food cheaper, manufactures less expensive, or machines more efficient.
if we want greater accessibility shouldn't we encourage great self sufficiency instead of reliance on corporations? also food prices haven't gone down they've increased
https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-2/average-food-prices-a-snapshot-of-how-much-has-changed-over-a-century.htm
even if you account for currency inflation food has gotten more expensive not less

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:31:47 2020 No.15982050 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8s7pNuiINM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:32:20 2020 No.15982054 File: 5 KB, 200x200, 23432423.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15982043 >Why do you think that you should have the product of someone else's labour? kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:32:37 2020 No.15982056 I don't think any of them would particularly mind such a reform Mostly because they don't make red cents It all moves around in assets and stocks and good luck getting red cents out of those

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:32:38 2020 No.15982057 >>15982043 Worth trying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:35:08 2020 No.15982069 >>15980995 Lmao. Imagine thinking assets of traitors wouldn't be seized before imposing such a policy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:36:46 2020 No.15982074 >>15982046 they aborted their own children as a protest?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:36:52 2020 No.15982077 >>15981164 Are you clinically retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:37:39 2020 No.15982082 >>15982074 why of course, listen to the big brained ESL teacher

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:41:48 2020 No.15982098

>>15982047
If you looked for peak self-sufficiency, you'd probably find it in the dark ages.

That's a long article for which I'll require a tl;dr.
Does it take into account that the US population TRIPLED during a period when farming became less and less attractive as an occupation?

Even if that were not the case, my indifference is collossal. I'm sure life in Africa has gotten worse. Why wouldn't it? Their death rate went down with no ability to increase their own productivity. Gregory Clark wrote an excellent book on that subject as it applies to the entire world.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:47:23 2020 No.15982119 >>15982098 if you're not willing to read for a couple minutes you're not interesting in actually talking about this in any meaningful way

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:53:34 2020 No.15982141 >>15982119 If you can't put it in your own words, then you don't have any ideas of your own to convey. In any case, reading* is for losers who don't value their time. *random stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:56:02 2020 No.15982149 >>15981578 Not an argument

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:01:25 2020 No.15982168

>>15982141
It explains how as times progressed food cost has grown exponentially and even if you account for currency inflation and population gorwth food cost has still risen more than it should, disproving your idea that corporations and rich people lower food cost

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:01:41 2020 No.15982169

>>15980955
Almost no one actually has >1 billion in liquid assets.
If this would apply to non-liquid assets then this would mean people would do everything in their power to keep the value of their assets as low as possible and make sure their companies are not listed on the stock markets since that would mean they could easily be bought.
The deflation this would bring would be catastrophic for anyone not in the upper strata of society.
What do you think would happen to someone who has a new company that is valued at 50 million and suddenly something good happens and it's now values 10 billion USD and the founder owns 60% of all stocks?
Should he then not be allowed to earn any money until he sells his company? When he does he should give away 80% of everything which would mean, depending on the country, he would have to pay more in taxes than the money he keeps so he is now not only poor but actually has a negative value.

This is just a few of the problems that would arise and it's ignoring the most obvious problems of capital flight and stifling of innovation.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:06:57 2020 No.15982191

>>15981024
The more countries join in to this agenda the more incentives countries would have to defect and the only way to dissuade defectors would be through overwhelming force, which in turn would incentivize large government which in turn would incentivize state companies which presumably wouldn't be under the same rules.

Have you tried basic game theory on your idea?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:11:22 2020 No.15982215

>>15982168
I Ctrl-F'd that article and there's no mention of population or growth. There's also only one instantce of the word inflation, in a section that only refers to the year 2012. That's all the reading I'm willng to do.

Just to disabuse you, I'm in the Gregory Clark/Paleo camp as far as food goes. We had it better in the Pleistocene. But the idea that salaries have anything to do with the nature of agriculture is... It's practically voodoo, anon.

However, given a context of a gigantic population and industrialized agriculture, only better industrialization can improve productivity. The USSR nearly managed 90 years to demonstrate its agricultural prowess, but they ended up selling off their gold reserves to feed their population. Still good for a laugh, though.

>>15982191
That anon only knows basic bitch theory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:17:34 2020 No.15982231 >>15980955 What is with this retarded bugman argument "YOU DON'T NEEEEEED THAT MONEY!" Guess what tranny, neither do you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:23:01 2020 No.15982251 File: 30 KB, 274x187, 1446689620118.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15980955 thinking about wealth in terms of literal dollars is the most capitalist thing possible. my brother listens to this guy's band lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:25:13 2020 No.15982259 >>15981959 I bought a house and because I'm an only grandchild, inherited two more. I'm still a socialist because my preference is that the government seize both of them and redistribute them as necessary. Feel literally zero conflict about this.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:30:04 2020 No.15982276

>>15982259
That's fine. You're demonstrating a healthy sense of self-preservation.

Now, a real lunatic leftist would sell those additional two houses and give the proceeds to charity, but you're too sane for that. You'll wait for a revolution that will occur in fifty to seventy years, or in other words, after your death, when it can't cost you a single penny. And for the duration of your life, you get to have the hottest, the most fashionable, the most employable opinions there are.

"Always mañana" -Che Guevara

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:31:31 2020 No.15982284 >>15981148 Neoliberalism

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:37:06 2020 No.15982314

>>15982276
I never claimed to be a revolutionary. I'm just an under-30 person who's wealth (1.4mil in liquid assets at age 28, another mil in land) would indicate GOP voting preference. I'm voting for Biden in Ohio and maybe his negress puppetmaster will do redistribution. Don't really care either way. I build model trains and roast coffee in my free time. Nothing will change for me.

Why do you guys care so much about politics?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:44:11 2020 No.15982347 >>15982314 >(1.4mil in liquid assets at age 28, another mil in land) got any for me?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:45:10 2020 No.15982349 >>15982347 Sure, if the government decides to redistribute, I'll part with it. I'm not really qualified to make decisions because I'm just an autistic coffee/trains guy who walked into a bunch of money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:50:27 2020 No.15982360 >>15982314 >I build model trains and roast coffee in my free time Is this the peak /lit/ lifestyle?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:50:28 2020 No.15982361 >>15982314 >>15982349 No hate, anon, enjoy your good fortune. Just be aware that your socialism is as much of a larp as your trains. It's much more irritating in corporate harpies who build their careers on... anti-capitalism, of all things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:53:18 2020 No.15982374 >>15982361 Did I ever claim it as an identity? LARPs are a hobby. Politics are a hobby. Reading is a hobby. I don't understand why you guys treat politics like its life or death. It's probably just micro-managed social credit anyway. Get a life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:56:48 2020 No.15982381 >>15982074 >>15982082 No, as a way to show they were committed to the project of population control. When Deng cut everyone checks later they were shit outta luck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:59:25 2020 No.15982391 >>15982374 Do you ever wonder about being in a McCloskey type situatuon?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:00:19 2020 No.15982393

>>15980955
How did we reach a situation where there are people in the bottom 90% who are ok with billionaires and millionaires existing? If you are an incredibly wealthy person, then I can understand supporting capitalism, because it interests you, but how did they manage to convince a population of people struggling to pay for dinner that it's fair and even good for them that their bosses don't give them a higher wage?

How are /pol/tards simultaneously anti-jew and pro (((capitalism)))? Why do people defend the status quo that they hate?

On the same note: how can the 'left' manage to fuck up their message so poorly? Are 'leftist' paid actors to be purposefully obnoxious? This tweet pisses me off, I completely agree that a billion dollars is too much, but this pretentious, condescending cunt's tweet pisses me off to no extent. I can't fucking stand the 'left', especially when they call each other 'comrade'. It doesn't surprise me that they're so hard to like, despite the fact that traditionally left-wing ideas resonate so strongly with the working population. For fucks sake stop being pretentious unlikable cunts, stop attaching labels to the ideas and just give the ideas, because your average person doesn't understand labels.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:02:07 2020 No.15982399 >>15982393 welcome to thje vampire castle

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:02:17 2020 No.15982401

>>15982391
Not really, no. If a protest group came up to me, I would invite them to sample the Panamanian geisha roast I am currently working on perfecting and ask if there were any train enthusiasts in the crowd. I'm sure we could have a pleasant discussion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:02:20 2020 No.15982402 >>15982393 Because the 90% thinks they can be the 10%. That's all it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:02:51 2020 No.15982407 >>15982393 Let's let Jewish organisers decide who is in charge of economic power. What could possibly go wrong?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:09:10 2020 No.15982427 >>15980955 That sounds fine, but not the dog park since there are also other animals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:13:43 2020 No.15982442 >>15982399 based >>15982402 Has anyone ever had any luck convincing them otherwise? Stoicism and Buddhism could probably help.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:13:50 2020 No.15982443 >>15982393 Posts like this always show that you don't actually give a shit about the average standard of living, you just care THAT GUY OVER THERE has more than you do, and somehow that's unbearable, because you're a petty, envious piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:14:28 2020 No.15982445 >>15982393 If you live in a first-world country, then you are already in top 10%, so worldwide communism will make you much poorer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:15:35 2020 No.15982448 >>15982442 >dude just die it's ok >dude you are already dead

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:16:37 2020 No.15982453 >>15982443 Envy is a healthy human quality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:18:08 2020 No.15982456 >>15982401 based rich kid autiste giving BLM $1000 coffee. Now I've read everything lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:18:40 2020 No.15982458 >>15981103 What makes you think it is supposed to be any other way?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:19:34 2020 No.15982461

>>15982442
An actual Stoic or a Buddhist would not seethe about how many zeroes are on someone's account balance.

But in practice, you can tell who Buddhists are by their appearance and accesories. Macbook? One Buddhist point. Facial hair? Another Buddhist point. Is their hair either painfully sculpted into a BDSM-style side part or loosely tied back into a manbun? Both get you a Buddhist point. They got into an involved conversation with the waiter about which items are gluten free? Guaranteed Buddhist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:21:07 2020 No.15982464 >>15982453 Envy is not present in people who are able to get what they want, when they want it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:22:03 2020 No.15982467 A reminder that Florence study showed that rich families now basically stayed the same compared to 600 years ago. That's everything you need to know about social lifts and power ownership.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:22:56 2020 No.15982470 >>15982467 Were these rich families endogamous?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:23:29 2020 No.15982473 >>15982464 >people who are able to get what they want, when they want it. So either no one, or an infinitesimal minority?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:25:03 2020 No.15982477 >>15982473 Yes, the men who get to breed.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:25:14 2020 No.15982478

>>15982443
Don't know where I gave off that vibe. I find the pic in OP unbearable because he's a stuck up cunt, not because he might have more money than me. I don't care if someone has more money than me, most people do. I value money very little, it pays for food, shelter, tools and books. I can understand completely why someone with a million+ dollars wouldn't agree with me, I don't intend to convince millionaires that I'm right, it goes against their wishes and I'm fine with that. My problem is that the average person defends a billionaire's right to hoard wealth. Historically, the aristocrats have never really cared about the commoner's rights, why do we care about their 'right' to have as much money as they want?

If I had the guess, the main reason billionaires "hoard wealth" is because the money they have can't actually be spent; if they spent all their money in one go, something really bad would probably happen. But yeah dude I'm not envious of money at all, I'm just envious of geniuses and 5 year old violin virtuosos mostly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:25:38 2020 No.15982481 >>15982477 Ah the chads from the Chad.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:25:45 2020 No.15982482

>>15982470
>endogamous
the Medici regularly had children with slaves and produced the first mulatto prince of Europe, so that would be a definite "no".

IIRC the Orsini also had a half-Turk son-of-a-slave princeling taken from as a prize-of-war from one of the Lepanto floating hareems of the Vizier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:26:40 2020 No.15982484 >>15982478 If you'll support left, they will not harm billionaires, but will makes your life worse by various means.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:27:06 2020 No.15982488

>>15981024
>Fuck offshores.
France tried to do this back in 2012 I think?
You know what happened? A good deal of the wealthy people and business owners simply moved their capital across border to UK and Netherlands. And now France isn't very happy about this idea of taxing the rich. The idea that nation states are for some reason work together on this issue ignoring their self interest is silly.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:29:37 2020 No.15982494
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>>15981103
turns out when you get more people and they are mobilized into the workforce more efficiently (thanks feminism) the wages go down due to competition
what a fucking suprise

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:29:54 2020 No.15982498

>>15982482
Not sure if you're the same anon, but persistence of family names doesn't equal persistence of genes. There may even be a complete turnover in certain circumstances.

AFAIK the reason Britain has been so stable over the past thousand years has been because of primogeniture, i.e. rich younger sons marry into the common classes, meaning there's a bridge between aristocracy and bourgeoisie that never existed in ancien regime France.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:31:44 2020 No.15982503 >>15981213 >Artificial stifling of single-company monopolies stimulates competition and creates better products. less government intervention that protects monopolies stimulate competition

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:32:24 2020 No.15982507 >>15982443 How exactly does that post show that? He just wants a better society.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:34:18 2020 No.15982516

>>15982393

Class consciousness does not exist. It has nothing to do with the "reality" Marx claims to love and is the result of the very "philosophizing" he claims to hate. The bottom 90% are not "ok" with billionaires existing, it simply does not occur to them that such a divide is anything but quantitatively descriptive, and they are right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:35:27 2020 No.15982519 Socialism does not work. Marxism does not work. Communism does not work. Read Basic Economics you fucking imbeciles.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:37:20 2020 No.15982529

The individuals who become billionaires and stay billionaires do so by being very good at directing their resources towards things that are worth investing in, because obviously if they choose enough bad investments they will quickly lose their fortune and this is evidenced by the constantly changing fortune 500 list. Somebody has to direct these resources if our society is going to see any sort of wealthy generation or innovation and I would prefer it be the most skilled people because society doesn't benefit from bad investment. These billionaires also have a personal stake in their success in investing unlike impersonal government agencies dealing with other peoples money, and consequently waste money on fruitless projects and research.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:42:21 2020 No.15982555

>>15982393
"the left", I mean socialists, threw away the notions of the family, tribe, ethnic group and nation state, shit, let's throw in language, cultural and religious groups in there as well
little did they know as an individual being a part of these things gives you larger bargaining power due to the group acting as one in it's own interest
but hey individualism frees you from judgement and social expectations of the in-group like gender roles so that's cool I guess

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:42:36 2020 No.15982556 >>15981209 The replacement part is true, nit the hoarding. Hiardibg is a terribke idea. When you heat that Bill Gates bet worth is x, that is not money hiarded in some bank, but shrares, goods etc...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:44:07 2020 No.15982566 >>15982555 leftists are anti-individualist..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:45:31 2020 No.15982570 >>15982478 >>15982507 >HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY PEOPLE HAVING X AMOUNT OF MONEY?!?!?! This has nothing to do with standards of living. You just hate that X amount of money is more than you have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:47:28 2020 No.15982578 >>15982566 only insofar as you align with their ever expanding ideology tell me what socialist organization has bargaining powers that they use against big businesses? worker unions would be one example but they get fucked by governments

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:49:01 2020 No.15982584 >>15981259 they try to burn it because there are documents on criminals (their own people)

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:49:01 2020 No.15982585
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>>15981103
The fact you cite this chart proves you have no comprehension of what the man you're replying to was saying.

The wealth of the top 1% is NOT liquid wealth, it's not the same as the money you have in your bank account, Jeff Bezos cannot spend 100 billion, in fact it's very likely he couldn't withdraw a single billion without it being scheduled a year in advance without tanking Amazon's stocks and causing his 'value' to drop by 30x that amount. His billions are contained within Amazon as a company, and directly tied to Amazon's performance and value, therefore the wealth of Bezos, and any large business owner, also benefits the common people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:51:47 2020 No.15982595 >>15981716 >>15981729 that sounds like almost every country on the planet since the 17th century

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:52:10 2020 No.15982597

>>15982555
They threw away all those things because after communists gain power, they brutally crack down on any sort of identity or authority that isn't the State (or "People's Republic of Working Comrade People").
Even though it turns out shit even when the State does it, it's even worse when you haven't even reached that point, so leftists outside of communist countries just have this weird tranny cult thing going on where they hate their parents, religion, and country.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:53:13 2020 No.15982602 >>15982585 Amazon's performance is has nothing to do with how good common people do. Look at how it's stock has soared during this pandemic, which has put ~30 million people out of work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:54:19 2020 No.15982606 >>15982570 That's a wise sentiment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:56:19 2020 No.15982615 >>15982602 Yeah retard, that's because with stores being forced to shut down by the government, everyone buys shit online now, aka Amazon. They're also hiring more people than ever to keep up with the new demand.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:56:45 2020 No.15982618

>>15982570
If it were possible for billionaires to exists and also have universal healthcare, a robust education system, well maintained infrastructure, and a guaranteed standard of living, then I would have no problem with them. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Billionaires use their wealth to make the governments of the world bend to their will to the detriment of nearly everybody.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:58:37 2020 No.15982626 >>15982615 OK, so what if the government forced them to lay people off? The fact is that while people are doing worse, Amazon is doing better. The value of Amazon is totally disconnected from the health of society at large.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:58:45 2020 No.15982627 >>15982618 No, you're thinking of jews. Rich white people become philanthropists.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:00:51 2020 No.15982639

>>15982615
>government forces little business to close
>customers are now forced to buy from huge corporations
>unemployed people are forced to search employment at huge corporations
Truly shows the relationship between government and billionaires. Let's also remember that leftists are the ones most enthusiastic about lockdowns, and everything will click.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:01:41 2020 No.15982643 >>15982627 >Rich white people become philanthropists. that's just tax dodging and money laundering

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:02:35 2020 No.15982648
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>>15980955
The system itself is the problem. While there is a market in which the means of production can be owned, there will always be pooling of wealth and mass exploitation. "Tax" and "Redistrubution" are retard solutions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:02:47 2020 No.15982650 >>15982627 Do you ever feel ashamed that your politics is based off of paranoid schizophrenic theories about race?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:02:59 2020 No.15982652 >>15982626 Now you're disingenuously mixing up your argument. Nobody said you could use Amazon as a sole measure of quality of life. What the other anon was saying was that Amazon doing well benefits tons of people through employment opportunities.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:04:40 2020 No.15982657 >>15982648 This. The real solution to income inequality is to all die of starvation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:04:46 2020 No.15982658 >>15982639 Are you saying that the government is beholden to large corporate interests?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:05:21 2020 No.15982661 >>15982652 Surely enough huge monopolies with barely present unions are a great employment places.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:05:55 2020 No.15982668 >>15982652 Having your labor exploited is hardly a benefit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:06:42 2020 No.15982673 >>15982668 Every job is "exploitation" to you retarded faggots.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:06:46 2020 No.15982674 >>15982658 Yes, especially the government which claims to be left.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:08:13 2020 No.15982685 >>15982673 Yes. >>15982674 If you're talking about the DNC, I wholeheartedly agree.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:09:42 2020 No.15982693 >>15982658 large corporations are more useful to governments than a bunch of whining poor people that don't produce anything of value

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:09:56 2020 No.15982695 >that one autistic retard itt who don't have any clue about economics and politics but vote for Biden in Ohio anyway cause he build model train and wants retarded distribution. lol

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:10:00 2020 No.15982696

>>15981024
>should be implemented globally
Can't be done without a legislative body that can overrule each country's sovereignty. Think income or corporate tax legislation as an example.

And I'd be willing to wager it's far too difficult to get all countries to give up their legislative independence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:10:12 2020 No.15982697 >>15982693 Working people produce value by definition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:11:12 2020 No.15982703 >>15980955 You cant argue good things are bad, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:11:51 2020 No.15982706 >>15982661 >>15982668 Please never reproduce you retarded imbecile commies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:12:33 2020 No.15982710 >>15982697 corporations can mobilize the workers in ways workers themselves cannot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:12:52 2020 No.15982716 >>15982706 Look, a Bezos himself! Post tits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:12:54 2020 No.15982717 >>15982697 You will never produce or reproduce anything of value. End yourself you worthless communist.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:13:12 2020 No.15982719

>>15981064
>makes the poors' life better by making everything cheaper and more affordable.

Anon, being a billionaire means your industry is far more extractive. It means you're making everything less efficient and you're taking more out of society.

Private equity is not good and harms capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:13:42 2020 No.15982723 >>15982706 >>15982695 wow... so this is the power of rightoid argumentation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:13:59 2020 No.15982724 >>15982716 >company that employs tens of thousands of people and provides utility for probably hundreds of millions more is bad How can you be exploited if you willingly enter into an agreement? Absolute imbecile, fucking embarrassing.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:14:58 2020 No.15982730

>>15982697
not necesseraly
if people avoid taxes or create vanity products and services rather than things with pragmatic function, their work doesn't really amount to much other than the money they make
your mcjobs aren't that much of a contribution to society

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:15:01 2020 No.15982731 >>15982723 >enter willingly into a contract >waaah im being exploited Don't want to work for Amazon? Don't sign the contract. Don't want to work in a non-unionized job? Join your retarded commie union and get a retarded commie job. Imbeciles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:16:05 2020 No.15982736 >>15982719 But that's wrong, you retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:17:12 2020 No.15982742 File: 2.98 MB, 1880x1466, 1591730828536.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15982723 >leftard >argument

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:17:12 2020 No.15982743 >>15982724 >if there is a huge monopoly, then it is great for the employees because you probably can't find job otherwise, right? That's literally your position.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:17:39 2020 No.15982746 >>15982736 Wow good post, you sure swayed me with your superior intellect

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:17:42 2020 No.15982747 >>15982719 >produce valuables to a low price which makes it more affordable to mor people >bad I always knew commies were retarded but this is next level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:18:40 2020 No.15982751 >>15982747 >He thinks consumption is good Liberals really grind my gears.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:18:46 2020 No.15982752 >>15982743 What monopoly are you talking about, exactly? Every monopoly that has existed thus far in history have been government monopolies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:20:13 2020 No.15982762 >>15982742 >If I bring something completely different up I win the argument!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:20:23 2020 No.15982764 >>15982746 Being a corporation means that you have efficiency down to an artform, producing massive amounts of products with as few defects as possible to maximize profit.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:20:47 2020 No.15982768

>>15982650
I'm not Jewish, so no, I don't view myself as part of a race chosen by God to dwell alone and never breed with the unclean goyim, on pain of being ostracised from the community of the righteous. That would be a racial belief with schizophrenic characteristics.

>>15982697
Your latte art is not valuable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:21:15 2020 No.15982769 >>15982747 >what is price dumping

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:21:17 2020 No.15982770

>>15982751
I know you commies absolutely despise the fact that more and more people can afford goods that used to be affordable only by the Nomenklatura.

Yes, more people being able to afford goods at a cheaper price is positive for said people and society as a whole. It means their standard of living is rising along with societies standard of living.

If you don't want to consume? Then don't consume. Don't stop the working man from being able to afford goods by artificially inflating the price or limiting supply.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:21:22 2020 No.15982771 >>15982730 >if people avoid taxes or create vanity products and services rather than things with pragmatic function That sounds rather like Amazon

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:22:00 2020 No.15982773

>>15982747
anon, capitalism today is not "making things cheaper". theyre doing things like burning piles of cash to obtain market dominance. Amazon was losing money hand over fist for years, it may be cheaper for the end consumer but all of the dumping wreaks havoc for other retailers. Then you have Uber, grubhub etc all straining viable businesses because theyre operating at loss.

The end goal of all this is monopolization. Not efficiency, its meant to ultimate extract even more once the competitors are dead.

And yeah, monopolies exist everywhere. Varsity Brands controls nearly the entire cheerleading industry, and it's more expensive than ever to get involved.

Only a total smoothbrain illiterate with no actual knowledge of the US economy would think billionares make things cheaper.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:22:10 2020 No.15982775

>>15980955
Literary Basic Economics, by Thomas Sowell.

That idea has been tried in India. I think the maximum was 10 million dollars or so. As a result, Indians who were getting near that sum simply left the country and became billionaires in other nations.

I don't think increasing the maximum to 1 billion will make a difference, but, hey, Marxists don't really care about practical consequences, do they?

Either you have a democracy and the law will have to be debated before entering into effect, in which case the billionaires will simply flee to other places such as my prosperous developing country which would be 100% happy to receive them.

Or else you have a dictatorship, in which case most billionaires will have already fled, and anyway the dictators will simply take the money to themselves, which is what dictators do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:22:21 2020 No.15982777 >>15982769 Something unions and commies love.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:23:04 2020 No.15982779 >>15982764 being a billlionaire means you destroy effective companies and set up metaphorical toll roads so you can extract as much as possible from the functioning economy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:23:05 2020 No.15982778 >>15982769 something governments should be regulating?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:23:38 2020 No.15982780 >>15982751 It's shocking that your ideology isn't more popular with people who live in poverty. After all, they hate consumption, too, otherwise they'd just buy more money. Poverty is basically a zen thing, right? Kinda cool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:23:45 2020 No.15982781 >>15982731 I already do. But jobs like mine are limited and only available to few people. People would choose unionized jobs every time if they were made available to them.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:24:51 2020 No.15982787 >>15982768 >but what about the jews Yes, Jews who believe that are retards, just like you are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:24:51 2020 No.15982788 >>15982782 I prefer the prequel, Uncle Tom's Cabin

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:24:51 2020 No.15982789 >>15982769 What is it? A left wing fantasy. Literally no private business has ever done this because it's a terrible strategy.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:24:58 2020 No.15982790

>>15982771
>That sounds rather like Amazon
with shit like Alexa you might be right, but their logistics business both the distribution part and AWS is extremely valuable due to their pragmatic functions
you buying onaholes on amazon webstore doesn't invalidate that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:25:21 2020 No.15982792 >>15982779 You mean like medieval aristocrats? Kind of weird how they couldn't keep hold of power and our economy just kept getting more and more efficient as time went on.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:25:55 2020 No.15982796

>>15982773
Yes, certainly some companies today are not sustainable long term operations but that is due to government interference in the market. In a free market these companies would have been bust years ago and not act the way they do. What we have today is not capitalism, it's state socialism thanks to the retarded ideology Keynesianism.

In a free market you compete for consumers through, but not exclusively, offering goods at lower prices to your competitors.

>monopolies exist everywhere
No. The definition of monopoly is "the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service."

The only monopolies in existence are government monopolies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:26:09 2020 No.15982800 >>15982775 >>15982782 >If I presume the tenets of my economic beliefs are axiomatic, I don't have to actually make any arguments Really makes you think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:26:43 2020 No.15982803 >>15982789 Wow, that literally word convinced me.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:26:48 2020 No.15982804

>>15982169
>Almost no one actually has >1 billion in liquid assets.
Depends. For the people on the Forbes list - sure.
But there are lots of gulf arabs that are cash billionaires and usually they do not appear on mainstream media in the internet in a picture row. Gulf arabs know these people, ask them
Furthermore there are mafias where they hoard cash, even if they don't need that much but simply because they pay salaries in cash and get their income in cash:
https://www.joe.ie/news/pics-this-pile-of-cash-worth-22bn-was-found-inside-the-insane-home-of-a-mexican-drug-lord-409313
Otherwhise I agree with your post.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:27:05 2020 No.15982805

>>15982781
>But jobs like mine are limited and only available to few people.
Almost like the market has given you their opinion on your job.

Why don't you start a unionized company and offer unionized jobs to people instead of expecting others to do it for you?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:27:05 2020 No.15982806

>>15982800
I did make an argument:

>Either you have a democracy and the law will have to be debated before entering into effect, in which case the billionaires will simply flee to other places such as my prosperous developing country which would be 100% happy to receive them.

>Or else you have a dictatorship, in which case most billionaires will have already fled, and anyway the dictators will simply take the money to themselves, which is what dictators do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:27:20 2020 No.15982807 >>15982792 Yes, and it would constrict the US economy if not for the temporary massive reduction in labor costs China gives. But the US is on its way out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:27:32 2020 No.15982808 >>15982803 This is an English forum

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:27:55 2020 No.15982809 >>15980955 thinly veiled non-/lit/ thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:28:09 2020 No.15982812 >>15982796 Keynesianism hasn't been the guiding economic philosophy of the West for 40 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:28:40 2020 No.15982817 File: 49 KB, 1020x178, bernanke.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15982812 >Keynesianism hasn't been the guiding economic philosophy of the West for 40 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:28:44 2020 No.15982818 >>15982787 What an original idea. Did you learn it from every book you've ever read, edited by Noseberg & Co Publishers? Three word sentence you've never heard before, but which explain everything: Jews are endogamous.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:29:03 2020 No.15982821

>>15982796
Thanks for giving me the encyclopedia summary of "shit retarded 4channers assert with zero knowledge". Anyone who rants about government intervention and Keynesianism is an automatic filter, that's ideology, not economics.

Try reading someone breathing in the 21st century and shy away from Hayek, von Mises or Sowell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:29:04 2020 No.15982822 File: 19 KB, 740x500, 106566916-1591367473490-20200605_Making_up_lost_ground.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15982762 ironic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:29:38 2020 No.15982826 >>15982808 Then you can try to use it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:29:54 2020 No.15982827 >>15982806 Wealthy people already move their wealth elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:30:28 2020 No.15982829 >>15982821 Not an argument. Please leave the thread you inbred imbecile.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:31:43 2020 No.15982832 >>15982778 Wasn't op about that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:31:48 2020 No.15982833 >>15982829 You didn't give an argument either you fucking nigger. You just opened your little gospel Bible and repeated the lines you're told to repeat. Try having an original thought for once and read a book you absolute fucking smoothbrain

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:32:19 2020 No.15982837 [DELETED]

>>15982788
>the left hates black people and will insult, defame, and attack any blacks that have different opinions than them
I can't wait to kill people like you.

>>15982800
>asks for a book that provides arguments
>gets a book that provides arguments
>shifts the goal post to wanting an argument from the poster
Kill yourself, brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:33:04 2020 No.15982839 >>15982827 If their wealth is so unrelated to the country that they can move it out in a heartbeat, then they simply don't belong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:33:41 2020 No.15982844 >>15982833 Not an argument. Please leave the thread you fucking commie retard. You add absolutely zero value to this thread or anything else in your life.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:33:50 2020 No.15982848

>>15982827
Yes, to places where it is easier to maintain it.

This is merely logical, and is the point of Sowell's discussion of that Indian issue in Basic Economics. People move their wealth to places where there are more incentives. Punishing billionaires by taking away all of their money is, I do believe, a very big disincentive to billionaires, who will them move their wealth to other nations before the law enters into effect (which takes a while in a democracy).

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:34:02 2020 No.15982849

>>15982788
>the left hates black people and will insult, defame, and attack any blacks that have different opinions than them
I can't wait to kill people like you, in minecraft of course.

>>15982800
>asks for a book that provides arguments
>gets a book that provides arguments
>shifts the goal post to wanting an argument from the poster
Kill yourself, brainlet.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:35:34 2020 No.15982856

>>15982848
Sowell makes a great argument regarding redistribution, he is correct when he says you can only redistribute current wealth. If people think their future wealth might get redistributed they simply move it elsewhere.

Capital, after all, can transcend borders in mere seconds, people not so much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:35:51 2020 No.15982858 >>15982844 Read a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:36:36 2020 No.15982864 File: 70 KB, 800x800, he.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15982858 >read a book >don't read Hayek, Mises or Sowell

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:38:10 2020 No.15982868 >>15982864 Read a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:39:41 2020 No.15982875 >>15982775 The problem of fleeing rich people could be solved if the whole world was part of a common economic zone with some kind of world gouvernment that would enforce the wealth cap in the OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:40:04 2020 No.15982879 >>15982856 Thats why we need a global government

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:40:35 2020 No.15982885 >>15982875 And let me guess, that world government would all be run by people like you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:40:44 2020 No.15982887 >>15982875 >>15982879 Sounds like my worst nightmare. Fuck off with your NWO global government shit. We need more localism. Central planning is disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:41:03 2020 No.15982888 >>15982849 >>15982837 I've read Basic Economics and I was disagreeing with it's economic theory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:42:14 2020 No.15982889 >>15982585 You are wrong. He could liquidate his stocks at 90% of spot value in a quarter. t.bigboy finance big boy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:42:55 2020 No.15982892 >>15982887 By the way, the reaction to covid shows not only what is said in >>15982639, but also that there is already a de-facto world government which most countries will immediately obey.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:43:39 2020 No.15982894 >>15982875 Yes, it could. Just like the problem of racism could be solved if everyone had race-mixed babies... And the problem of fat-phobia could be solved if sexy hot men were willing to date ugly fat women.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:44:20 2020 No.15982898 >>15982889 US government would pour boiling oil down his throat if he tried to do it on the behalf of the stock holders

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:45:59 2020 No.15982902 atlas shrugged

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:46:02 2020 No.15982903

>>15982892
>there is already a de-facto world government which most countries will immediately obey

It shows the opposite. There's a load of disagreements on covid, even though it's a scientific issue.

Now imagine it when it comes to political, or ideological issues. Imagine trying to convince Islamic countries to hold a common economic zone with the US, like >>15982875 wants to do.

Utterly impossible.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:46:35 2020 No.15982904
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>>15982887
We're coming for you anon:

- forced vaccines
- worldwide gun control
- global wealth tax
- liberal education camps

It's going to be a paradise.. just you wait

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:47:36 2020 No.15982909 >>15982887 this retarded nigger thinks federalism is central planning Hamilton_Laughing.jpg

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:47:48 2020 No.15982911 File: 50 KB, 572x456, lol renewanoobs btfo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15982868 >non-argument leftards

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:49:27 2020 No.15982920 >>15982904 World population is several times larger than what is desired.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:49:33 2020 No.15982921 >>15982904 >It's going to be a paradise I didn't realize Detroit and Baltimore is paradise

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:50:48 2020 No.15982927 >>15982909 >federalism even worse. Its not even a 1 world government you retard.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:58:04 2020 No.15982968

>>15982618
Those benefits you listed can literally be had right now without raising taxation on anyone; do you know why it is not? Govt. inefficiency.

The govt. overspends, underspends, and loses money every year in the hundreds of millions, if not billions. People have this strange idea that giving a govt. that is absolutely terrible with money even MORE money will cure any ailment -- it won't. It's like upping the dose for a junkie while expecting them to get over the addiction.

You're lamenting billionaires for govt. issues. And even those billionaires don't necessarily have the cash they're valued at, so that's another folly to think you can take what they don't even have.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:58:46 2020 No.15982973
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>>15982885
Probably not, I don't like the concept that much and I'm not scrupulous or ambitious enough to spend my life in these institutions and rise to the top. I guess the people who would run it would be similiar to the ones who are are in US politics, like Clinton, Biden, Feinstein, Romney. It might be interesteing if it was ruled by some kind of AI but I would want to hide on some small tropical island or vast forest as far away as possible from their control.

>>15982894
I know rich people who shill for that stuff.

>>15982903
Why would Islamic countries be contrary to that? Turkey wanted to enter the EU and the gulf arabs set up the GCC, even though it's come to a standstill. They wouldn't have to give up on their nations, religious rules etc.
I guess convincing China would be harder/almost impossible.

>>15982904
2 and 4 exist already.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:01:15 2020 No.15982982 >>15982894 >>15982973 I meant I know rich people who shill for a unified world economy with otherwise sovereign nation states.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:02:45 2020 No.15982997 Why just stop there lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:05:03 2020 No.15983005 >>15982894 Isnt this literally brazil and they still have racism problems

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:05:55 2020 No.15983008 because then they will not provide as much and the poor will be poorer for it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:11:21 2020 No.15983028 >>15981786 It used to be that we had to defend millionaires, but now modern lefties have shifted to just criticizing billionaires, since Bernie is a millionaire now and they dont wanna criticize him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:13:29 2020 No.15983038 >>15982618 This. The free market doesn't incentivise solving every kind of problem

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:14:46 2020 No.15983041 >>15982668 In terms of thermodynamics, you "exploit" others by simply existing. Either accept it or kill yourself. Make sure to dig your own grave beforehand, otherwise you exploit someone by forcing him to dig it for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:14:48 2020 No.15983043 This whole thread is so dumb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:15:55 2020 No.15983048 >>15982903 >it's a scientific issue. jfl

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:22:50 2020 No.15983069 >>15980955 You need a system where someone can't generate wealth by stealing others' labour. And that is anarchism By the way so many big profit companies

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:23:04 2020 No.15983072 >>15980995 Ok, now you can have no access to our markets either. We don't sell your shit here and have created room for a competitor that the people know aren't greedy fucks like you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:25:18 2020 No.15983082 File: 92 KB, 1219x978, 61Kg+Zje8lL._AC_SL1246_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15982973 >Turkey wanted to enter the EU and the gulf arabs set up the GCC, even though it's come to a standstill. I wonder why

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:25:51 2020 No.15983086 >>15983069 ...are not creating the highest quality product in order to maximise profit. Remember when facebook decided to break their feed to make money and you had to pay to fix it?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » mxvabIoSIE Tue Jul 28 09:32:39 2020 No.15983130 >>15983041 there are degrees of exploitation you dumb fucking nigger retard

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:34:40 2020 No.15983143

>>15981207
What a great idea to abandon the people to nation state. They would then have access to the military machines that would be used to declare war on your private island or wherever you scurried off to; dragging your families out like the traitors you are. I'm glad your heartlessness is recorded here though, for all to see first. Justifying such aggression will be much easier now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:45:29 2020 No.15983206 >>15982662 you can go back to watching Hasan now

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:45:45 2020 No.15983209

>>15980955
100% tax over a certain rate is just a maximum wage basically. The primary argument everyone is making is that billionaires are welfare enhancing but that's obviously contentious since there's plenty of proof to the contrary. If you set it so high it'd be largely irrelevant since billionaires would have all kinds of wealth still to lobby against it so it just last a couple years at most.

>>15981207
>If Bitcoin (or a future analog) goes mainstream for architects, engineers, consultants, doctor's diagnoses, etc, then that's the end of income tax for high earning professionals, at a time when welfare spending goes through the roof. Something has to give. I don't intend to experience the consequences of that.
You mean if everyone was paid on a public ledger and their income was made public... not to mention their income halving or doubling over night every couple months. That would make avoiding taxation harder, whatever you're paid in you would have to convert to the public monopoly money still to pay since there's no reason any sane government would accept bitcoin for taxes.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:49:56 2020 No.15983232

>>15981683
History has shown racism is exacerbated by economic down turns. Socialist policies are color-blind, the only reason whiteness continues to stick out is because the USA made a policy of endorsing them over others, and then abandoned them too unless they would work as foot soldiers for the rich, and then just turned from them all-together.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:50:11 2020 No.15983233

>>15983082
The KSA-Qatar rift is pretty old and a further integration would be difficult, since richer parts don't want to pay for poorer parts. I mean look at the UAE, where Abu Dhabi is controlling everything and giving others without only money if they don't question Abu Dhabi as the controlling emirate.

>>	jesus Tue Jul 28 09:58:10 2020 No.15983280 number of comments here tell me you are all very skilled specialists in how to deal with someone else's money

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:00:12 2020 No.15983288 File: 8 KB, 160x160, hasMods.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15983206

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:06:49 2020 No.15983325 File: 537 KB, 1200x1600, 2CE195B7-5ED9-450E-ACBD-D1300CDAE49D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are poor people so insufferably annoying?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:12:47 2020 No.15983354 >>15981786 >defending wage-laboring subhumans The benevolence of the elite ensures that they don’t die on the streets. In all honesty they SHOULD be left to die. Survival of the fittest

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:14:45 2020 No.15983368 >>15983325 Slave morality

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:16:50 2020 No.15983382 >>15983130 >this exploitation is good >other exploitation bad >i get to decide which is which arbitrarily

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:17:33 2020 No.15983385
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When will we as a society just admit that Aristotle was right and that poor people are natural slaves meant to serve their masters? The poor serving and providing leisure for their masters is mutually beneficial and leads to a harmonious society. Most normalfags NEED slavery and would be happier and provisioned for under such a system

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:18:00 2020 No.15983389 >>15983325 That shit village is peak SOUL

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:20:25 2020 No.15983405

>>15981192
>>15981229
The Hart-Cellar Reform of 1965 removed the old immigration quota system (that used to make spread around the demographics of immigrants and limit too many from one place).
It reduced immigration controls and illegal immigration started to be a problem for the first time.
So in 1986 they (mainly Ted Kennedy) hatched a scheme called the 1986 Immigration Control & Reform Act.
It was supposed to give mass amnesty to a quarter of million illegals (it actually gave it to 3 million) in exchange for a crackdown on illegal immigration on a go-forward basis with documentation, penalties for employing illegals and border patrol.
They delivered on the mass amnesty part but not the crackdown. People assumed employer penalties and the illegality of it would make it impractical for illegal immigrants to stay in the country.
Not only were the provisions hard to enforce but after the act the courts were often hostile to the tools designed to de-incentivize immigration.
In “The Age of Entitlement” by Christoper Caldwell, he gives the example of a district court overturning the results of a 1994 California referendum (passed in a landslide) that was supposed to deny welfare benefits to illegal immigrants.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:20:42 2020 No.15983409 >>15983354 that's kind of a weird masochistic ideology

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:23:49 2020 No.15983424 Interesting. The Hegel thread dies overnight and this one baits 300 replies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:25:17 2020 No.15983437 File: 62 KB, 205x205, 1507809079889.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15983424 >mfw my Spengler thread got 5 replies

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:41:20 2020 No.15983537
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>>15983424
It's only logical. Talking of Hegel requires reading and understanding his works; a vague and relatively controversial topic that only serves as a soapbox for poorly developed and even more poorly argued ideas shared and debated in pure intellectual dishonesty has a far greater reach, and more easily accommodates the uneducated and uncultured, inciting them to share their piece.
It's sad to see that even /lit/ itself has devolved into a mentality of appeasing the lowest common denominator for nothing but completely meaningless statistical superiority, intrinsic value be damned, but it's also hilariously poetic that the thread that exemplifies this the best at this point in time happens to be one on capitalism of all things.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:43:37 2020 No.15983549
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>>15983537
>It's only logical. Talking of Hegel requires reading and understanding his works
No it doesnt. Ive never read Hegel and just bullshit through the threads. No one dares to call me out because they dont understand Hegel themselves either.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:45:21 2020 No.15983561

I wonder if all of the commies tearing up Democrat cities right now have considered that since they're all being paid $600/wk unemployment and what they've chosen to do with their free time is tear up cities and attack law enforcement, they've made an incredible argument against ever giving the people of the US any kind of universal basic income.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:48:35 2020 No.15983585 File: 613 KB, 112x112, 1594836261312.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15983288 >pays his editors below a minimum wage

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:50:24 2020 No.15983603 >>15980995 here's an idea: we execute you for treason for colluding with a foreign government. except you're don't actually have a factory and think boots taste good

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:51:38 2020 No.15983609 File: 26 KB, 713x611, 1565976016897.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15983603 >We execute you >tankie still thinks the working class gives a shit about his little revolution

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:54:21 2020 No.15983633 File: 11 KB, 250x201, 424tav.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15980955 >every red cent

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:05:08 2020 No.15983729 >>15982402 >Because the 90% thinks they can be the 10% What! Do you go out sometimes?

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