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>"NoOoOoOoOo, you can't read Atlas Shrugged! If people take responsibility for themselves then who will look after me!?!?!?"

Why does Ayn Rand trigger the Leftists so hard?

>> No.15969867

>>15969848
Ayn Rand is a leftist.

>> No.15969875

>>15969848
>Why does Ayn Rand trigger the Leftists so hard?
Because they're one of the two meme authors kids get into during college.
If you fall for the Objectivist meme, it means that you didn't fall for the Marxist meme, which means you're the enemy.

>> No.15969890

We need a bipartisan coalition to gas people who read (((Ayn Rand)))

>> No.15969893

>>15969875
Lmao it's not the 1970s anymore, Boomer. Very few people read Rand.

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>>15969893
This is the closest we get.

>> No.15969912

>>15969890
>>15969867
based. fuck ayn rand.

>> No.15969956

>>15969848
on a fundamental level, 'A is A' is wholly incompatible with their whole 'veil of ignorance' thing
that, and the book pokes some substantial holes in both classical and neo marxist doctrine
very ahead of her time in that regard, as though she knew what was coming
I especially enjoyed her argument against relativism

awaiting the customary ad hom, straw men, and denial of reality from all you seething classical marxists
you have been left behind by the intersectional postmodern neomarxists, comrades
they are the revolution now

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>>15969848
Shut up and read Stirner, twerp.

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>>15969976
No.

>> No.15969989

>>15969976
>t. everything I don't like is a spook

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>>15969988
>not posting the correct image.

>> No.15970046

>>15969848
I hope you were solely responsible for your upbringing, your independent language creation, and so on.

>> No.15970056

>>15969893
That's just wrong, I had to read her in both middle school and high school and I'm 24.

>> No.15970065

>>15969976
Stirner is a spook

>> No.15970102

>>15970046
what?
>The only purpose of education is to teach a student how to live his life—by developing his mind and equipping him to deal with reality. The training he needs is theoretical, i.e., conceptual. He has to be taught to think, to understand, to integrate, to prove. He has to be taught the essentials of the knowledge discovered in the past—and he has to be equipped to acquire further knowledge by his own effort. ~Ayn Rand

>> No.15970125

>>15969848
Same reason they call Sowell an Uncle Tom. Anything that doesn't fall in line with their programmed thinking is trash.

>> No.15970131

>>15969976
Communism, Marxism, and Stirner are spooks. What now?

>> No.15970140

>>15970131
now is a spook

>> No.15970145

>>15969956
based. They cannot refute the John Galt speech probably because they haven't even read it.

>> No.15970180

>>15970145
>They cannot refute a 40 page long monologue that's gay and stupid

>> No.15970203

>>15970180
Not a refutation. Seethe harder.

>> No.15970217

>>15970065
>>15970131
Stirner was a person. He wrote a book you need to read.

>> No.15970226

>>15969848
I unironically don't know, not so much the serious far left as in your pic, but the milquetoast white radlibs seethe fucking hard at her.
I think it's a combination of her being a woman who disagrees with them and their belief that Atlas Shrugged is some kind of Kapital for right-wingers, the same shit for brains retards who unironically believe in a libertarian to fascist pipeline.
I'm pretty far to the right but I'm definitely not an objectivist and I started out as a socialist.

>> No.15970242

>>15970217
I see only bones and inscribed concepts, yet no Stirner.
Definitely a spook.

>> No.15970278

>>15970217
"Need" is the biggest spook of them all. You need to suck my dick

>> No.15970282

>>15970203
No refutation needed, Ayn Rand was a gay retard. Even Rothbard couldn't deal with her autism.

>> No.15970289

she doesn't trigger anyone her work is garbage

>> No.15970293

>>15970282
All I see is cope that you can't refute it

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>>15970217
Sorry, I don't read trash.

>> No.15970302

>>15970293
Individualism is an inherently incorrect premise and ignores externalities.

>> No.15970305

>cause GFC
>demand government bailout
>denounce public healthcare and unemployment support
What did Market Fundamentalists mean by this?

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>>15970242
I did say past tense
>>15970278
You’ll need to if you want to keep up with this conversation.

>> No.15970334

>>15970282
>[Individualism] ignores externalities.
how so?
>>15970316
the past is a spook

>> No.15970336

>>15970302
Alright. I'll hear this out. Tell me more

>> No.15970362

>>15970056
>I had to read her in both middle school and high school and I'm 24.
Jesus Christ. In a public school? They don't see the irony?

>> No.15970368

>>15969867
>>15969848
Ayn Rand was a kike.

>> No.15970376

>>15970368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inj9xB49zuo

>> No.15970377

>>15970316
that quote is completely removed from the context of her ideology; it's explicitly condemning communism
it is the collectivization of labour which robs the individual of the individual product of his individual labour

the freeloading marxist thief:
>my ability is small, but my need is great

>> No.15970384

>>15970368
Water is wet

>> No.15970404

>>15969848
Rand's an ass writer. I'm not even a leftist she just fucking sucks.

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Why can't people just read him before running around with the spook stamp? He is just fun to read. Top half of this is excellent shitposting.

>> No.15970425

>>15970384
Water is valuable.

>15970376
kys, I'll never look at your video, tranny.

>> No.15970433

>>15969848

In principle (not contemporarily) the left is smarter than the right, so the left gets triggered by her inconsistently droll and incoherent prose.

>> No.15970434

>>15969848
As an anarchist, I actually enjoyed Atlas Shrugged

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>>15970434
>As an anarchist

>> No.15970444

>>15970377
And she thoroughly misunderstands what communism does for the laborer when it allows him to KEEP IT.
But the tanky also misunderstands, as he still believes in vanguardism.

You really need to read Stirner. In it he mentions the union of egoists. The only way communism/socialism/anarchism can come about
Letting free range pirates loose is just more capitalist freebootery

>> No.15970458

>>15970444

Different anon but recommend a starting point for Stirner?

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>>15970458
The book. If you like you can backtrack and read the little paper on education, and the rebuttal to his critics.
I’m told it’s a parody of Hegel, but no one needs to delve too deeply into him to make sense of it. It’s simple and straightforward and mirthfully put. If you read German go with that of course. English, I recommend this guy

>> No.15970504

>>15970481

Thank you!! My familiarity with Hegel is mostly cliff notes through the Althusser-to-Marx lineage. When I've tried to read Phenomenology it's just left me frustrated. Maybe I'll have better luck here...

>> No.15970792

>>15970217
How's menopause?

>> No.15970854

Stop shilling Stirner

>> No.15971027

>>15970418
>Stirner gets on the store intercom
>takes the longest time possible to clear his throat
>"AHEM, YES?"
>taps the microphone like a wine glass
>"Would, 'MAX STIRNER' report to the Based Department?"
Is Stirner the Bart Simpson of philosophy?

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15971094

>anarchoids still think that an individualist union will, uhmm, just work and some Raz Simone won't come and bitchslap them into submission
absolutely hillarious

>> No.15971134

>>15970458
Don't. He was debunked by Giraridan mimetic theory.

>> No.15971145

>>15970444
>the union of egoists
dunno, sounds like a spook

>> No.15971178

>>15970316
Being anti capitalist doesn't mean you are a communist

>> No.15971206

>>15969956
>seething classical marxists
you have been left behind by the intersectional postmodern neomarxists, comrades

You're such a fucking idiot. Are you writing a parody of an ancap teenager educated by YouTube or are you serious when you use phrases like this?

>> No.15971218

>>15970444
Digits confirm.

>> No.15971230

>>15971206
>intersectional postmodern neomarxists
Doesn't exist. Now go take your benzos.

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>>15971145
When one takes a hold of his possessions he exercises his power alone. When two or more form a free association, a union of egoists, he is enabled to take a larger possession and hold onto it.

>>15971178
The names we have also have many nuanced meanings. So true enough.