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15969559 No.15969559[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

When did you outgrow god?

>> No.15969567

>>15969559
This guy is already accepting God btw. He'll be a born again Christian later in life. Screencap this.

>> No.15969579

>>15969559

I never really believed to begin with. And before anyone tries to get cute: yes, god really is a thing that one outgrows, matures past. The sadness is that few do.

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12
out grew atheism around 17

>> No.15969602

>>15969579
You are supposed to outgrow your atheist phase in your 20s.

>> No.15969627

>>15969559
Never fell for that lulshit. Outgrew agnosticism around 20

>> No.15969636

what book is like the definitive atheist book? something like Origin of Species or The God Delusion or something?

>> No.15969645

Remember the time when Cardinal Pell blew the fuck out of Dawkins during that debate?

>> No.15969669

>>15969636
Origin of Species has nothing to do with atheism. And The God Delusion too weak a strawman to be the definitive book.

>> No.15969671

>>15969559
You're a faggot

>> No.15969679

When I decided that I don't care if I end up in the deepest recesses of hell

>> No.15969687

>>15969669
well the thing is, i want to go through and read like all the main major religious texts and decide for myself what i think is right, and i feel like i should include an atheist text to complete it, and idk what atheist text that would be

>> No.15969696

>>15969687
all the major "atheist" or anti-theist books only deal with some christian denominations.

>> No.15969706
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>>15969636
Nick Land

"I wiped the blade against my jeans and walked into the bar. It was mid-afternoon, very hot and still. The bar was deserted. I ordered a whiskey. The barman looked at the blood and asked:

‘God?’

‘Yeah.’

‘S’pose it’s time someone finished that hypocritical little punk, always bragging about his old man’s power…’

He smiled crookedly, insinuatingly, a slight nausea shuddered through me. I replied weakly:

‘It was kind of sick, he didn’t fight back or anything, just kept trying to touch me and shit, like one of those dogs that try to fuck your leg. Something in me snapped, the whingeing had ground me down too low. I really hated that sanctimonious little creep.’

‘So you snuffed him?’

‘Yeah, I’ve killed him, knifed the life out of him, once I started I got frenzied, it was an ecstasy, I never knew I could hate so much.’

I felt very calm, slightly light-headed. The whisky tasted good, vaporizing in my throat. We were silent for a few moments. The barman looked at me levelly, the edge of his eyes twitching slightly with anxiety:

There’ll be trouble though, don’tcha think?’

‘I don’t give a shit, the threats are all used up, I just don’t give a shit.’

‘You know what they say about his old man? Ruthless bastard they say. Cruel…’

‘I just hope I’ve hurt him, if he even exists.’

‘Woulden wanna cross him merself,’ he muttered.

I wanted to say ‘yeah, well that’s where we differ’, but the energy for it wasn’t there. The fan rotated languidly, casting spidery shadows across the room. We sat in silence a little longer. The barman broke first:

‘So God’s dead?’

‘If that’s who he was. That fucking kid lied all the time. I just hope it’s true this time.’

The barman worked at one of his teeth with his tongue, uneasily:

‘It’s kindova big crime though, isn’t it? You know how it is, when one of the cops goes down and everything’s dropped ’til they find the guy who did it. I mean, you’re not just breaking a law, your breaking LAW.’

I scraped my finger along my jeans, and suspended it over the bar, so that a thick clot of blood fell down into my whisky, and dissolved. I smiled:

‘Maybe it’s a big crime,’ I mused vaguely ‘but maybe it’s nothing at all…’ ‘…and we have killed him’ writes Nietzsche, but—destituted of community—I crave a little time with him on my own.

In perfect communion I lick the dagger foamed with God’s blood."

>> No.15969802

>>15969679
You will care when you're there

>> No.15969815

>>15969559
Dawkins is the atheist equivalent of those christian fundamentalist that give christianity a bad name.

>> No.15969864

>>15969815
>to stop annoying non-christians you should stop being christian
>to stop annoying non-atheists you should stop being atheist
Sounds like a safe, but impotent way of life.

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>>15969559
Atheists the most you can say about them is that they are neither very good nor very bad people. Personally I like people who take risks. A person who can't be detached enough to take risks concerning things bigger than himself is simply worthless. Just a food-processor with legs.

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>>15969559
Praying for you Dr. Dawkins.

>> No.15969911

>>15969559
13
then I became a born again christian at 17
then I found out I don't actually care about religion and god at 19
25 y and counting as an apatheist

>> No.15969925

>>15969645
>Cardinal Pell
not a good name to drop anon

>> No.15969936

>>15969696
why i am not a muslim by ibn warraq
infidel by ayaan hirsi ali
the young atheist's handbook by alom shaha
are all written by ex muslims

>> No.15969966

You know I've always considered the God question a bit of a red herring, that really what people are after is a way to circumvent their death instinct.
How much would people really care whether or not God existed if they knew as a prerequisite that this is the one and only life they're going to get, i.e. no immortality via afterlife.
It was only after I began to accept my own mortality that I was actually curious about the God question.

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>>15969559
I consider atheist people intellectually inferior to myself. I don't read atheists. I think we should expell atheists from society like in the golden days of Athens. Get out of my board, freak.

>> No.15969992

>>15969925
Wasn’t that the rare case when the accusations were proven to be retarded?

>> No.15969996

>>15969559
I never did
my definition of God outgrew God

>> No.15970007

>>15969706
>kindova

>> No.15970022

>>15969602
Nice meme

>> No.15970034

>>15969636
J. L. Mackie's The Miracle of Theism

>> No.15970036

>>15970022
Yes, atheism is just a boring meme.

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15970053

Daily reminder it has been empirically proven religiosity stifles scientific innovation.

https://www.princeton.edu/~rbenabou/papers/Religion%20December%201g_snd.pdf
http://www.nber.org/papers/w21052.pdf

Daily reminder the overwhelming majority of leading scientists are atheists

https://www.nature.com/articles/28478
https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1936-6434-6-33

Daily reminder most philosophers are atheists

https://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl

Daily reminder religious people are less intelligent according to dozens of studies.

http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/The_Relation_Between_Intelligence_and_Religiosity__A_Meta-Analysis_and_Some_Proposed_Explanations.pdf

Daily reminder religious people are less educated

https://www.economist.com/news/international/21623712-how-education-makes-people-less-religiousand-less-superstitious-too-falling-away

Religious people are literally a lesser breed of human

>> No.15970078

>>15969911
Kinda similar
I like religion from a cultural and historical POV, and I find the theological intricacies and arguments fascinating
But I don't really care if there Is a god or not

>> No.15970093

>>15969802
honestly I wouldn't be surprised if hell is bottomless

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15970127

>>15969602
In reality, the number of people outgrowing religion overwhelmingly outweighs the number of irreligious people who adopt a religion.

>> No.15970128

>>15969579
You sound like a faggot, and youll burn like one.

>> No.15970141

Militant atheists are not popular now because they are beating a dead horse.

>> No.15970153

>>15969636
there is no definitive book

>> No.15970168

>>15969636
The Abible.

>> No.15970171

>>15969987
>closet atheist

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>>15969992
turns out he might not be a pedo himself but he is a pedo enabler.
apparently he doesn't believe that god is omnipotent. he's probably secretly an atheist himself
>He said he was "surprised" by the inquiry's report, adding: "These views are not supported by evidence."
fucking weaselly sentence for a priest to come out with

>> No.15970232

>>15970171
Closeted atheist genocidal.

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>>15969559
By becoming God.

>> No.15970279

>>15969559
Define "God"

>> No.15970304

>>15970127
Yes, and you'll find that the birthrates are inversely proportionate

You're literally being outbred and cheering for it

>> No.15970312

>>15970034
Thanks

>> No.15970314

>>15970279
Dog spelled backwards.

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>>15970304
Religious people are shrinking as a share of the population in every developed society.
If you want to cope by taking third worlders living in sub Saharan shitholes as a consolation prize, be my guest.
> If current trends continue, by 2050 four out of every 10 Christians in the world will live in sub-Saharan Africa.
Lmao

>> No.15970337

>>15970304
Chicken birthrates are the highest.

>> No.15970372

>>15970168
lol

>> No.15970420

I grew up atheist, surrounded by atheists and physics, and was a militant atheist until I grew up and started a family of my own.
I'm no Abrahamist, no Christian. I have however 'found' God. Physics kept me an atheist, but metaphysics, the physics of physics, made it too obvious. God is the great attractor, consciousness is the highest form, and the conscious will, the logos, is a small spark of the divine. Also, determinism is bullshit.

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>>15970420
>I grew up atheist, surrounded by atheists and physics, and was a militant atheist until I grew up and started a family of my own.
>I'm no Abrahamist, no Christian. I have however 'found' God. Physics kept me an atheist, but metaphysics, the physics of physics, made it too obvious. God is the great attractor, consciousness is the highest form, and the conscious will, the logos, is a small spark of the divine. Also, determinism is bullshit.

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>>15970314

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>>15970438

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>>15970279
I'm more interested in how you'd define "God".

>> No.15970492

13-19


Now into mysticism. God is illogical and beyond thought and reason. Religion would be better if the answer to why did God make this or do that was "havent the faintest"

>> No.15970494

>>15970473
God is a girl.

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>>15970438

>> No.15970555

>>15970494
Nope. Got a big piece of pipe swinging between the legs.
Slays women.

>> No.15970563

>>15970494
>>15970555
But to be more technical and pedantic, God references a masculine God.
Goddess references a feminine God.

So your God wouldn't be God, but rather a Goddess.

>> No.15970570

>>15970563
>but rather a Goddess.
but rather the Goddess
my bad, she gets pissed at me when I neg Her like that ;)

>> No.15970603

>>15969559
When I was nine. Took almost 20 years to get around to dissecting the corpse.

>> No.15970608

>>15970555
God is a futa?

>> No.15970630

>>15969602
Yes. And switch to some mature form of metaphysics. Even christian god is acceptable.

>> No.15970636

>>15969559
14. With age came wisdom and grew back into Him in my early 20s.

>> No.15970646

>>15969559
I was five. Community center Santa told me he didn't know about the toy I asked for and later molested me.

>> No.15970765

>Creates the polemic principle of Male and Female
>People still trying to work out which one you are

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>>15970636
>With age came wisdom and grew back into Him in my early 20s.

>> No.15970773

>>15969876
BASED

>> No.15970812

>>15969559
>Started question God's existence at around age 9-10.
>Became an atheist at age 14.
Still haven't come back to God, although I really would like to believe in him. But all the evidence seems to indicate that he doesn't exist, and I can't fool myself into believing he does, unfortunately.

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>>15970773

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>>15969559

when i realized there are competing religions and the bible is contradictory and makes no sense

>> No.15971064

>>15969936
>replying to the persecution complex of a christian

>> No.15971072 [DELETED] 

also the early church fathers contradicted each other and had heretical views that are not accepted by christians today

constantine was not a trinitarian. he was baptized by an arian and was an arian christian

>> No.15971103

the first christian ruler was a heretical christian

>> No.15971136

Imagine unironically wanting to believe in a jew in the sky. Your life must be a vast desert if this is the case. In fact, it makes you a gay nigger who should reconsider going on with his life

>> No.15971138

>>15969966
Proof that there is nothing after life? for a thinking man, I'm surprised you either never came to the thought or weren't satisfied with the thought that the nature of existence itself is conducive to experience and thus it is equally - if not far more likely for reincarnation or recurrance to occur after death than it is for 'nothingness'. And even if nothingness were to occur, you simply wouldn't experience it, meaning for you, you would blink and be a baby again, or something else maybe. Is it just a trick through the current idea that reality is 'grim'? I mean, all super ideas about life are suspended in favor that life is simply banal, death, boring, fuck and make baby because death, eat food bla bla. Of course I could be wrong and my reading of your post might be too shallow, let me know.

>> No.15971165

>>15971136
I dont think god ever identified as a jew

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15971201

Look at Lamettrie and Dawkins and tell me physiognomy isn't real.

>> No.15971245

>>15971165
If it talks like a jew, acts like a jew and swindles like a jew, it’s probably a nigger

>> No.15971254

>there is one true religion and it comes from jewish people
>it doesn't come from white people, asian people, and black people
> it comes from desert jews


imagine actually believing this

>> No.15971265

>>15971245
Anyway, my main message is nigger and jews, bad news. My atheism is just a theological equivalent of this