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>fights to protect his honour
>dies

What did he mean by this?

>> No.15964213

>>15964207
I don't know who this is, is that a tartan sash?

>> No.15964239

>>15964207
Everyone's got to die at some point, at least he got to die in a duel and not by having a bird drop a rock on his head or summat

>> No.15964248

Death is a possible outcome of fighting. Now, what do you mean by your post, OP?

>> No.15964302

>>15964207
It is better to live one day as a lion than one hundred years as a sheep

>> No.15964316

>>15964207
Dying is inevitable. Losing your honour is not.

>> No.15964330

>>15964239
He died miserably after 2 days of a wound. One he received from a freaking frog nontheless. It is beyond pathetic.

>>15964302
>resent chad who flirted with your stacy wife
>be challenged to a duell (not even the one offering the duell)
>die of a wound
A baby lion is a lion aswell, amirite?

>> No.15964333

He was assassinated by the Russian Empire practically. The whole story and the aftermath are ridiculous.

>> No.15964338

>>15964316
He lost his honor by losing the duell.

>> No.15964359

>>15964330
Cat go purr

>> No.15964360

>>15964338
The only way to lose your honor is by refusing or fleeing a duel.

>> No.15964368

>>15964338
Everyone gets a participation trophy in dueling. The only way you lose is by not showing up.

>> No.15964395

>>15964213
pushkin

>> No.15964404

>>15964368
>>15964360
So you consider it an honorable death?

>> No.15964419

>>15964207
He died an honorless cuck, yes.

>> No.15964421

>>15964404
Yes.

>> No.15964425

>>15964421
Nah

>> No.15964438

>>15964421
Bullshit. You wouldn't want to die the same way.

>> No.15964455

>>15964438
The question wasn't if I wanted to die like he did, was it? He asked if I considered it an honorable death, not an optimal or clean or superficially virtuous death. He stood up for himself and unfortunately ended up on the loser's end. That's still honorable in my eyes.

>> No.15964501

>>15964360
Are there ways to refuse or evade a duel and keep one's honour?

>> No.15964539

>>15964501
No.

>> No.15965550
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15965550

>>15964207
>fights because he literally cannot stop bantering a LARPer
>dies

>> No.15966418

there were a lot of reasons Pushkin did that duel that go beyond him needing to protect his honor.

part of it is that he lived in a culture where deliberate self-endangerment was one of the only means of asserting your bodily autonomy when your position in the tsar's civil society was so precarious. part of it was a complete absence of avenues for meaningful, effective action (c.f. with how the Byronic archetype struck such a chord with contemporary Russian aristocrats, and how "games" of seduction and performance of verbal intelligence became the main surrogates for "effective" action among the upper class, which Lermontov illustrates really well in Hero of Our Time)