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What doctors of the church are essential to read?
>inb4 all of them

>> No.15963238
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>>15963228
none of them

>> No.15963263

>>15963238
>the most influential people of the most influential religion in the world are not worth reading

Uhh, why?

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None of them

>> No.15963298

>>15963228
Baltasar Gracián.
San isodoro de Sevilla

>> No.15963305

>>15963228
none

>> No.15963307

>>15963228
St. John's Dark Night of the Soul, and The Ascent of Mount Carmel

>> No.15963323

>>15963263
Because they were poor imitators of the neoplatonists and i'm willing to bet you've not read all those yet.

>> No.15963331

>>15963298
>Baltasar Gracián
self-help tier, not insightful at all

>> No.15963339

>>15963331
You mistake me, I am not a philosopher nor did I propose him for his philosophy. Baltasar Gracián is up there with the greatest authors of Spain's siglo de oro, his work El Criticón is probably just as important as Don Quijote in terms of Spain's medevial canon.

>> No.15963346

Plotinus and Proclus
all christian philosophy is based on them
(see Cappadocians and Maximus the Confessor through Dionysius)

>> No.15963352

Augustine
Jerome
Ambrose
Aquina
Duns (though he isn't officially one he is equal to one)

>> No.15963369

>>15963339
My bad then, I must say I was very disappointed by the Oráculo manual y arte de prudencia so I was quick to jump to conclusions. I will have a look at the Criticon to redeem myself.

>> No.15963387

>>15963369
It's okay. I should've known that when you were asking for church doctors you were asking for philosophy.
That said if you want to understand El Criticón you need to read Agudeza y arte de ingenio, I have not read it cause it's a "philosophical" work (I will let you judge), which isn't fit for someone who is only interested in literature as art.

>> No.15963392

>>15963387
Also just to clarify even if it's already implicitly said in my posts, El Criticón is in my opinion top-notch literature.

>> No.15963488

>>15963369
Not the anon you were talking to, but I believe a distinction has to be made between aphoristic writings of genius minds with active lives, and the commodified and formulaic "self-help" of our modern day. I was very much impressed by the Oráculo and I think it excels at what it was meant to do.

>> No.15963490

Teresa of Avila if you love mysticism

>> No.15963795

Is there anything like doctors of the church but for orthodox/protestant christianity?