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1595278 No.1595278 [Reply] [Original]

The only way to save American literature is to destroy Manhattan with a series of carpet bombings concentrated around the McSweeny's building.

>> No.1595288

I sometimes debate people based on skimmed Wikipedia articles.

>> No.1595287

I get more enjoyment out of a cliche (but well-written) sci-fi/fantasy novel than most contemporary serious literature.

>> No.1595292

Tripfags have ruined this board.

In more /lit/-content related news: Russian literature is unparalleled.

>> No.1595296

Saying a book (or a film or anything else for that matter) is "artistic" is empty praise. Anything can be art if you want it to be, it doesn't mean it's enjoyable or good.

>> No.1595299

I care more about world literature than anything I've read that was American.

>> No.1595297

>>1595288

That is unsurprisingly common.

I honestly think the world needs a benevolent dictator in order to achieve real progress. One who can concoct a lie that will replace all the other sweet lullabies humanity sings to itself.

>> No.1595303

Life is pretty good.

>> No.1595308

I'm not catholic, but I genuinly believe that literature is in a sorry state because there are fewer Catholic writers in the mainstream then there were a couple generations ago.

The world needs another Chesterton.

>> No.1595310

>>1595297

I figured it was, because I feel like my arguments would be pretty easily destroyed if my opponent actually knew anything about the material, leading me to believe they're doing the same thing.

>> No.1595314

Why not destroy Williamsburg
Don't you guys all hate hipsters

>> No.1595317

Medieval philosophy > Classic Philosophy > Enlightenment > Renaissance > Modern > Post-modern

>> No.1595319

>>1595314
That would still leave Brooklyn. There can be no exceptions.

>> No.1595323

It's a crime Canadian literature isn't more well known.

>> No.1595324

>>1595319
It would certainly destroy the vast majority of poseurs
What's left is more or less bearable.

>> No.1595321

My girlfriend pays my bills

And I cheat on her

>> No.1595328
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>>1595317

>> No.1595330

>>1595317

Someone else who agrees ;_;

>> No.1595332

>>1595321
Matt, is that you?

>> No.1595333

Fuck mini babybel

>> No.1595334

Bill Kaulitz is a living Adonis and I'd rip off all my fingernails for a peck on the cheek from him.

>> No.1595336

>>1595332
Yep.
[Spoiler] U mad? [/spoiler]

>> No.1595338

>>1595323
What's your favorite Canadian story, the one about the immigrant coming to terms with her heritage, or the one about growing up in a small Prairie town?

>> No.1595340

>>1595336
Spoiler fail.

>> No.1595343

That /soc/ is now one of the most popular boards on 4chan makes me want to pollute global water supplies with arsenic.

>> No.1595342

>>1595336
Dammit, it is you. Matt can't do spoiler tags either.

>> No.1595344

>>1595343
It's mostly just penises, penises everywhere.

>> No.1595346

>>1595343
But they have the wishlist threads now!

>> No.1595348

>>1595338
The one about the car being on fire and there being no driver at the wheel

>> No.1595349

Africans can't write.

>> No.1595350

>>1595346

They also had a book/"What are you reading" thread earlier on today.
Made me rage slightly

>> No.1595356

>>1595350
Hahah, yeah I saw that one. A lot of shitty taste.

>> No.1595363

>>1595344

It's full of chubbies and sodomites (lol love that word).

>> No.1595362

>>1595350
Can't be much worse than the kind of shit you see here nowadays; excluding the probable abundance of Twilight.

captcha: The shada

>> No.1595367

isn't mcsweeney's based in SF or at LEAST brooklyn, come on dude

I don't know how much nefarious impact they're really having on the world in 2011 outside of slapping gold foil onto books that are only okay, anyway. leave dave a-loooone!!!

>> No.1595368

>>1595362

It was. A lot of garbage.
Then again I'm not sure that I was expecting anything highbrow.

>> No.1595371

>>1595363

Can't be more sodomites than on /lit/.

>> No.1595382

>>1595371

I don't really care I just wanted to use that word.

>> No.1595384

>>1595382

All right. I prefer catamite, though its meaning is a bit more specific.

>> No.1595389

There is only one guy that complains about tripfags on /lit/, and he does it to troll.

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1595404

We're 50 years late for the LSD concentration camps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRNKmje-Abs

>> No.1595405

>>1595389
Nope. You lot are truly a blight on this board.

>> No.1595410

I own six books about Joan of Arc. She is quite possibly the only truly noble woman in history.

>> No.1595433

I don't think I'm over her.

>> No.1595445

>>1595410
just ditch your intellectual pretension and make up a moe pillow waifu for yourself already

>> No.1595447

You can't prove one book has more artistic value than another.

>> No.1595452

>>1595445

Speaking from experience?

>> No.1595451

>>1595433

I know, right?

Requiescat in pace, funny girl.

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1595453

>>1595433

I know, right?

Requiescat in pace, funny girl.

>> No.1595455

I read stephen king

>> No.1595457

>STEEEIIINNBBEECCKKK

>> No.1595458

>>1595452
just sayin', an imaginary girlfriend who's superior to all those common living breathing pig-disgusting 3D women...

>> No.1595476

>>1595299
I feel the same way, except that I think Faulkner was a fucking genius.

For me, Latin American literature has usurped the place of "American literature". In that sense "American" literature has been saved, since Latin America is in America.

>> No.1595636

Fabulous is a teenage faggot and tripfaggotry is killing /lit/

>> No.1596259

Murakami should be a music critic, and should never be published outside Japan.

>> No.1596345

>>1596259

But where else am I going to get my classical music loving angsty young Japanese guy fix?

>> No.1596383

Sleep with my contacts in because I'm terrified I'll be abducted in the night and placed in a cell and when I'm good they'll toss a book at me. I need to be able to read that book.

>> No.1596386

>>1595317
your chart is backwards

>> No.1596393

>>1596386
Nope. You're just mad.

>> No.1596401

>>1595338
I like the one with the repeated references to nature.

Also, you missed our final type of novel, the one about the Metis. Bonus points for Gabriel Dumont.

>> No.1596418

I believe that nobody knows what great writing is anymore and that's why the most successful writers write about sparkling vampires because it appeals to largest demographic.

I also think that Cormac McCarthy is the last great American writer.

I believe that once I get over my angst and refine my writing that I will be the next great catholic raised writer in America.

>> No.1596425

>>1595338
>>1596401
Or the ones where they just drive around in America e.g.: David McFadden.

>> No.1597304

Ray Bradbury > Kurt Vonnegut

>> No.1597313

>>1596393
retard

>> No.1597319

I will never get tired of seeing the same 40 pictures over and over again for 80% of the new threads. I can´t. I won´t!

>> No.1597321

>>1597319
do you get half a boner every time the cover of brave new world pops up

>> No.1597323

>>1596259
He really shouldn't be a music critic. He just says "it's good" using a lot of words.

>> No.1597339

murakami would be a slightly better music critic than nick hornby but that's not saying much

>> No.1597969

>>1595323
Examples?

>> No.1597993

i can't get her. and that's precisely why.

>> No.1598007

>>1597969
Read Norwegian Wood and pay attention.

>> No.1598010

>>1598007
Okay. I actually have it in .pdf on my compy right now. Time to fry my eyeballs.

>> No.1598012

Philosophy is dead. there is nothing new to think of that would be considered thinking outside the box.

We need to have another enlightenment era. one that questions the current foundations and scientific facts we hold so dear to be true.

we must understand that our physics "law" only affects what we see and there is very much a variable where our "laws" are jokes.

circa de matrix

>> No.1598014

>>1598010
Ctrl+F for classical music composers' names or "The Beatles" and post some examples for us, if you get a chance.

>> No.1598028

I have a crush on my english lit professor. His name is Jonathan.

>> No.1598045

>>1598012
check out Paul Feyerabend (especially Against Method)
look up what's being published on neurochemistry
read up on David Harvey (interdisciplinary combination of geography, history, philosophy, economics, political science, art criticism, pretty much any humanities topic)
if you're a student access the Daedalus archives via your library account (digital or physical)

there's plenty of exciting stuff going on, you're not putting in enough effort to find it. if anything, the social sciences, combined with technological developments in communications, archives and empirical science have opened the doors to such a vast territory of potential knowledge we're having a hard time covering it all.

>> No.1598046

>>1598028
Crush like "he's dreamy" or crucs like you could imagine him boning the fuck out of you with sweat on both your titties?

>> No.1598048

>>1598046
The latter.

>> No.1598055

>>1598014
why? no

>> No.1598070

>>1596418
"America is now wholly given over to a damned mob of scribbling women, and I should have no chance of success while the public taste is occupied with their trash–and should be ashamed of myself if I did succeed. What is the mystery of these innumerable editions of the ‘Lamplighter,’ and other books neither better nor worse?–worse they could not be, and better they need not be, when they sell by the 100,000."

Nathaniel Hawthorne, 1855

You have almost the EXACT same complaint he had, and yet, look what's been published since then. The world of literature isn't ending, it's always been this way. All the same, I wish you luck.

>> No.1598072

>>1598045

thank you. i just don't know where to even begin looking for such things.

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>>1598028
you go to pomona don't you. girl u nasty

>> No.1598098

>>1598072
- email or talk to professors. since they are often required to publish and "keep up" with current affairs in their department, they're probably familiar with at least some recent seminal/landmark works (i'm thinking a time frame of the last 15-20 years) and maybe some very recent trends (5 years). varies from professor to professor, some care more than others about this kind of thing.
- i'd also recommend seeing if universities in your area or the nearest larger metropolitan area sponsor a distinguished lecture series.
- go to jstor and look up philosophy journals, then just browse the latest published theses and works. see if they rely heavily on any particular source or citation.

wikileaks, crowd leaks, anonleaks and other sites themselves are statements on the state of journalism, which will have an affect on philosophical thinking. i kind of understand where you're coming from (all previous movements of philosophy have been exhausted, what could possibly be next?), just keep in mind that time is a good editor. especially with so many eyes and minds in academia, a consensus will inevitably emerge (right now its looking like human rights, for better or worse)

>> No.1598400

Hardcore sci-fi and fantasy fans are the worst kid of elitists.