/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15931367]

This man was right about everything

[Anonymous No.15931398]

>bald
nope

[Anonymous No.15931596]

>>15931367
My name is asac schrader go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.15931889]

He just plagiarized Vico

[Anonymous No.15931904]

>>15931367
Germans are usually right. Sadly no one seems to notice until it's too late.

[Anonymous No.15931944]

>>15931904
Even Marx?

[Anonymous No.15932182]

>>15931944

Marx wasn't a German; he was a Jew.

[Anonymous No.15932192]

>>15931904
>>15932182
Um hello, based department?

[Anonymous No.15932204]

>>15931944
Pretty kosher for a german.

[Anonymous No.15932216]

>>15931904
the so called 'german' is lowly filth

[Anonymous No.15932262]

>>15931944
German Jew by birth, Englishman by choice
>Spengler right once again

[Anonymous No.15932548]

>>15931367
Extremely based, how could one man be so fucking right.

[Anonymous No.15932577]

>>15931398
>not shaving to flex your massive gigabrain in all its naked splendour
Skull-let detected

[Anonymous No.15933344]

He claimed we would be living in the age of Caesars right now. Where are they if he was right about everything? I swear most people just see the title of his book and go "so true! western civilization literally is declining, I seen it on /pol/!!"

[Anonymous No.15933358]

>>15933344
No, the age of Caesars is 2200-2400.

[Anonymous No.15933369]

>>15933358
He never claimed that

[Anonymous No.15933381]

>>15932262
This.
Marx was a spiritual Anglo.

[Anonymous No.15933382]

>>15933344
>> hasnt read the book, makes vauge statements that mean nothing

[Anonymous No.15933383]

>>15933369
Yes, he did.

[Anonymous No.15933388]

>>15933344
Hitler and Mussolini perhaps even someone like Stalin could be seen as a Caesar. His prediction was that it would be around the year 2000.
> western civilization literally is declining
It is and has been

[Anonymous No.15933394]

>>15931367
Where is my fucking western caesarism? Where is it??

[Anonymous No.15933401]

>>15931367
Spengler is one of the most significant philosophers of the 20th century. He doesn't receive nearly as much praise as he is owed. We all know of Decline of the West and its brilliance. But Spengler was even a pioneer of the philosophy of technology in Man in Technics. And that was decades before Heidegger's Question Concerning Technology. Why is Spengler ignored? Because he is anti-liberal. But the truth is anti-liberal. He does not believe in the Idea of Progress of Whig history. So, he's hidden from our minds. Thankfully, he's becoming more and more prominent.

[Anonymous No.15933402]

>>15933383
Is there anyone who discusses Decline of the West who has actually read it?
I'm convinced that there isn't.

[Anonymous No.15933420]

>>15933402
Retard, those dates aren't set in stone and there have been setbacks because of leftists fucking everything up

[Anonymous No.15933428]

>>15933388
How has it been declining?

[Anonymous No.15933436]

>>15933420
They're not set in stone, but Caesarism is to be expected within 200 years, not beginning at 2200 like you said.

[Anonymous No.15933455]

Mystic tier

[Anonymous No.15933475]

>>15932577
Life begins when you /shaveit/

[Anonymous No.15933483]

>>15933455
tfw you believe in both astrology and Spengler.

[Anonymous No.15933484]

>>15933402
I read it.

[Anonymous No.15933505]

>>15933455
This. It's schizo gibberish.

[Anonymous No.15933508]

>>15933455
Skepticism leads no where. If you believe in something then it becomes reality

[Anonymous No.15933538]

>>15933455
Did you make that just for this thread? It’s a bit sad if you did lmao

[Anonymous No.15933552]

>>15931367
He was even right about t*chnology

[Anonymous No.15933555]

>>15933344
Google the Imperial Presidency. The American government has been Caesarist since FDR. The difference between Rome and America is that while a Caesarian takeover in Rome had to be done in a violent coup, in America Caesarism has become entirely constitutional. Rome would never under any circumstances accept a monarch due to its history, while America will gladly accept one as long as he is a monarch "for the people".

[Anonymous No.15933576]

>>15933401
I was surprised to find that Spengler's enormous influence on Heidegger is totally ignored. Being and Time is literally Spengler's idea of Culture and Time but transposed to the individual person.

[Anonymous No.15933596]

>>15933508
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15933597]

>>15933555
That doesn't make sense though.
Caesarism is supposed to be a leader who is beyond monied interests and actually wields the power themselves.
Everyone knows that that does not describe American presidents at all. American presidents are just powerless puppets who are beholden to whatever interests are bankrolling their election campaign.

[Anonymous No.15933608]

>>15933596
Those who are afraid to believe in something end up believing in nothing and fall into despairity

[Anonymous No.15933737]

How is the west declining though when it’s economic and cultural systems are becoming so dominant that they are becoming synonymous with global culture.

I mean China is rising economically but not in any way that is challenging the cultural dominance of the West.

[Anonymous No.15933747]

>>15933508
Could the Jews have believed themselves out of the holocaust or the Germans out of military inferiority ?

[Anonymous No.15933757]

>>15933596
>duuuuude i heckin looooove science!!

[Anonymous No.15933761]

>>15933597
That is somewhat true. The road to Caesarism is the gradual accumulation of power which turns the democratic office into a hollow shell. For most of US history the Executive and Congress have struggled with each other over power. Every war and financial crisis requires a strong president willing to get shit done which places more power into the hands of the Executive. The most Caesarist presidents then are Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, and the 2 Roosevelts. FDR in particular had the twin crises of the Great Depression and WW2 which got him dictator-like power and an unprecedented 4 terms.

The US president today is the most powerful man on Earth. The most important facet of this power is that the president is the only one who can represent the 99% against the 1%. That is the singular reason Trump got elected and it is why he will win a second term, even if he fails to do anything, it's what he says he will do and his relation with the people that matters. That is Caesarism to me. What will happen after Trump, who knows. I have a feeling that democratic principled government will not survive Trump's presidency.

[Anonymous No.15933778]

>>15933608
Not true. You don't need to believe in an idea to use it. Belief is completely irrelivent and not connected to the object of belief existing or not. It doesn't matter, for instance, if god exists or doesn't exist, since I can believe or disbelieve in him no matter what. There is no necessary connection between the two. Actually, faith and the advocation for faith seems like the biggest indication of the lack of belief, the fear that you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.15933797]

>>15933608
>>15933757
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15933982]

>>15933761
>The US president today is the most powerful man on Earth
Does anyone actually believe Trump has any power? If he had power he would have done something by now.
The most powerful people are families like the Rockefellers, Warburgs, Lauders - these banking dynasties are the real people pulling the strings.
Hell, even Epstein was more powerful than Trump
>That is Caesarism to me.
No, Caesarism isn't Trump tweeting le based and redpilled thing while being an impotent fool, that's called being a cucked faggot.

[Anonymous No.15934045]

>>15933982
Trump is an anachronistic idiot. His isolationism belongs in 1920, not 2020 when he is running a global empire. he loves to exert how powerful he is and that his authority is final but when it comes to Covid19 he was paralyzed. He has no idea what he's doing. the US president theoretically is the most powerful man on Earth, if he isn't an idiot like Trump. The problem with only having 2 polarized candidates to elect that think politics is a zero sum game is that there is no room for a good leader who would actually make good use of his power, only narcissists and delusional ideologues.

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>>15931367

[Anonymous No.15935519]

>>15934531
I downloaded a pdf of this. Seems to be nothing more than a lazy misunderstanding of Spengler and boiling down to, like all anti-Spenglers, "you can't know the future"

[Anonymous No.15935606]

>>15932182
naming them

[Anonymous No.15935611]

>>15931904
Luther destroyed the west

[Anonymous No.15935618]

>>15933344
Trump is either a pro to-Caesar or Caesar in spirit waiting for the right moment to cease power and assume his final form. Wait ‘til after the election. You thought Trump 2020, Trump 2024, Trump, 2028 and so on was a joke?

[Anonymous No.15935630]

>>15931944
Especially Marx

[Anonymous No.15935635]

>>15931904

[Anonymous No.15935639]

>>15933401
Most of the Conservative Revolution is ignored inside the West today.

[Anonymous No.15935647]

>>15935519
Don't even bother, butterfag hasn't even read that book HE posted. HE just looked at the title and thought "that will teach them reactionaries". I'm absolutely convinced that HE has never read a single book during HIS time on /lit/

[Anonymous No.15935650]

>>15931367
Does Spengler incorporate any historical materialism in his analysis?

[Anonymous No.15935653]

>>15935647
Bruh in the other thread he tried to use pic related as evidence that the Soviet Union was 'right wing'. He's a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.15935670]

>>15935653
Yeah, he's either a typical wikipedia reader aka pseud who reads just the titles to name drop or has absolutely no retention at all, I've yet to see a well-informed and thought out butterfag post that is on topic.

[Anonymous No.15935683]

>>15935618
He is just a figure head. None of the shit he tweets about ever happens, he has no power himself to do what he wants

[Anonymous No.15935696]

>>15933747
Actually, the holocaust is a good example of belief turning something into reality.

[Anonymous No.15935724]

>>15935650
kys

[Anonymous No.15935747]

>>15935724
I'm just asking a question nigger, I didn't say anything about Spengler.

[Anonymous No.15935805]

>>15931367
How is the West in decline when it's more powerful than ever and destroyed the last opposition to it in 1991?

[Anonymous No.15935822]

>>15933455
Joke's on you, I'm a Scorpio Moon.

[Anonymous No.15935882]

>>15935805
Moral decline

[Anonymous No.15935923]

>>15935611
>American education
Luther was the logical reaction to the shenanigans of the catholic Church. And he was right. Modern protestantism is a joke though, obviously.

[Anonymous No.15935933]

>>15935805
Demographic change, lowering IQ, increasing debt...
>stronger than ever
lmao

[Anonymous No.15935934]

>>15935923
That's just C*tholic coping for the fact their chimping divided the Church yet again.

[Anonymous No.15935941]

>>15935933
Name one nation that could go toe to toe with NATO and not be crushed.

[Anonymous No.15935971]

>>15935805
>>15935941
"Decline" is sensationalist Nietzschean language that he liked to use. Unironically "perfection" of the West is more accurate. The complete fulfillment of spiritual, artistic, and political ideas. NATO and the UN are like the modern Roman empire, the final political fulfillment of its civilization.

[Anonymous No.15936005]

>>15935971
>liked to use
Spengler actually didnt like the term "decline", and he preferred to have used "conclusion"

[Anonymous No.15936032]

>>15935971
This.
Spengler means that the West in its *cultural* achievements is in decline (in the areas of politics, art, architecture, music, religion, literature etc.).
People who have not read the book automatically defer to saying "we have medicine and cars and a million shows on netflix to watch now so how are we in decline, huh? we're only going up!!11!1!!", but this misses Spengler's understanding of decline and, if you understand the book, you would know that Spengler would not be surprised in the least at the current trajectory of the West in terms of scientific advancements and global hegemony.
These are, in fact, things he said would happen, and again, these things happening do not in any way refute Spengler's diagnosis of the decline of the West.

[Anonymous No.15936043]

>>15936032
Another thing I see is people using Spengler like Evola or something, as a reactionary against moral decline. While Spengler certainly had things to say about moral decline in The Hour of Decision, that's not what TDotW is about.

[Anonymous No.15936053]

>>15931367
This is the German Foucault.

[Anonymous No.15936090]

>>15936043
Yeah the last 20 or so pages of The Hour of Decision are pretty kino.

[Anonymous No.15936166]

>>15935611
Luther was insignificant, lots of clergy didn't like the corruption within the church. The split was unavoidable.
>>15936032
>People who have not read the book automatically defer to saying "we have medicine and cars and a million shows on netflix to watch now so how are we in decline, huh? we're only going up!!11!1!!"
This comes up in every Spengler thread.

[Anonymous No.15936228]

>>15935941
NATO is going to fight itself soon with Turkey / Greece conflict, and the current economic downturn will kill it.

[Anonymous No.15936277]

I Always knew Crowley was right

[Anonymous No.15936385]

He has his insights but his view of history is far to deterministic for me to accept, he outright ignores the role of unending human initiative.

[Anonymous No.15936391]

>>15931367
Is that the guy from Breaking Bad
>jesus christ, marie. they're minerals!

[Anonymous No.15936393]

>>15936385
How do you reconcile with the fact that the last 100 years have proceeded more or less as he said they would?

[Anonymous No.15936519]

>>15936385
Very few people agree with everything what Spengler says, not even those who hold him in high regard.

[Anonymous No.15936528]

>>15932262
>Marx
>English
No

[Anonymous No.15936551]

>>15935611
Constantine destroyed the west

[Anonymous No.15936580]

>>15935923
Without luther we wouldn’t have liberalism and the french revolution. The reformation literally set the West on a course so radically different from what it should have been

[Anonymous No.15936588]

>>15936551
Paganism would have set the west on a very different course indeed, would egalitarianism even be conceived as an idea under paganism? I highly doubt that

[Anonymous No.15936599]

>>15936528
He literally brought Anglo materialist bugman thought to its logical conclusion

[Anonymous No.15936745]

>>15936580
Luther was based though

[Anonymous No.15936820]

Brothers help me: is it hard to read Decline of the West? I'd love to read it but since it's pricey I want to know if it's readable before I pull the trigger.
The italian version is translated by the man himself: Julius Evola.
>inb4 pirate it
Not a e-reader fag, I want to have a book in my hands.
>>15931904
Based.

[Anonymous No.15936877]

>>15931367
He's a pessimist, read Huizinga for optimist perspective.

[Anonymous No.15936887]

>>15936580
Wrong, Luther and the French Revolution were effects, not causes. Higher and more efficient modes of production unleashed both of those. Blaming Luther is a cope.

[Anonymous No.15938097]

>>15931367
His views on rootless cosmopolitans and soulless city life were absolutely correct, as were his thesis on how all culture is eventually subsumed by “civilization”, how material things like wealth and standard of living might improve at the expense of artistic wonder, of calculation over intuition. There’s a reason why the great painters of the past made their work seem effortless as they were completely in tune to their culture, see how hard it is now to even pick up a paintbrush or even try to conceive a great work of art in any form. The very fact that you have to conceive of it instead of just making is testament to a decline in the inherent artistic force in the West that used to be everywhere

Prove him wrong

[Anonymous No.15938100]

>>15935650
Of course not

[Anonymous No.15938111]

>>15936528
He was a biological Jew but an angloid in spirit

[Anonymous No.15938356]

>>15935805
It became victim of its own success

[Anonymous No.15938705]

>>15936887
>Higher and more efficient modes of production unleashed both of those.
>marxism
cringe

[Anonymous No.15938728]

>>15938111
transanglo (JtA)

[Anonymous No.15938771]

>>15933737
>How is the west declining though when it’s economic and cultural systems are becoming so dominant that they are becoming synonymous with global culture.
That IS the decline.

Imagine someone taking a bunch of beautiful sandcastles and turning them into a large bunker and you get the idea.

[Anonymous No.15938802]

>>15931367

Why did he study birds of prey though? He wrote one of his two theses on their eyes. Why?

[Anonymous No.15938815]

>>15938802
cause theyre cool

[Anonymous No.15938817]

>>15931904
Yes. But the Austrian always ruin everything for the Germanic people: Freud, Austrian economics. National Socialism, Eurovision trannies,...

[Anonymous No.15938957]

>>15933737
That quantitative expansion is the decline. And China is now also caught up in it, which means they are also in decline.

[Anonymous No.15939139]

>>15933401
what do you mean the truth is anti-liberal? reading about this stuff is only making me want to kill myself more and more. i dont like it

[Anonymous No.15939160]

>>15931367
what's his fucking problem? how is the west supposed to look like to be able to not be in decline? it feels like it's been declining since the 1900s. what is his endgame? what does he want?

[Anonymous No.15939176]

>>15933483
Based

[Anonymous No.15939182]

>>15935822
Me too, just in Vedic.

[Anonymous No.15939203]

>>15939139
>reading about this stuff is only making me want to kill myself more and more

wut. A more cosmic perspective should fill you with mental quietude.

[Anonymous No.15939223]

>>15939160
Read the book retard
The west is just going to reach its winter phase. Doesnt mean a literal decline like mad max
People in the 2500s wont know what it means to be western just like italian medieval peasants in the 500s didnt know what it meant to be Roman

[Anonymous No.15939242]

>>15939160
The West has been maturing over the past 120 years. The “decline” isn’t going to be very cinematic. And as other anons have pointed out, the reign of the economy is a symptom of the maturation regardless of how much power the West wields

[Anonymous No.15939487]

I've read every single word this man has written and I can assure you that he was right about everything.

[Anonymous No.15939510]

Is arktos doing an entirely new translation?

[Anonymous No.15939706]

>>15931367
>Nazi faggot that justifies capitalism cucking y'all with it being foreigners fault

>"right"

OP is a gullible dumbshit.

[Anonymous No.15939789]

>>15939706
abject retard
why are you on a literature board if you clearly don't read?

[Anonymous No.15939925]

>>15939223
Great way of putting it.

[Anonymous No.15940069]

>>15939706
Go back, chapotranny

[Anonymous No.15940129]

>>15936053
i've noticed NRx and revcon authors intersect a lot with pomo. i like it.

[Anonymous No.15940151]

>>15936519
this is not true

[Anonymous No.15940193]

>>15939510
i haven't heard of this, is it true?

[Anonymous No.15940207]

>>15932182
Holy based.

[Anonymous No.15940226]

>>15933401
Spengler's take on technique is brainlet take on technique.
Philosophy should've never left the French once it arrived to them.

[Anonymous No.15940247]

>>15940226
>Spengler's take on technique is brainlet take on technique.

I found it stimulating. Spengler may not be the deepest of thinkers, but the way he explores ideas gets the mind racing along adjacent paths. It's good stuff.

[Anonymous No.15940263]

>>15939706
You should probably read a book before you come here chapo tranny

[Anonymous No.15940338]

>>15936228
Who wins anon? Plz not turks

[Anonymous No.15940350]

>>15940193
Yes look at their website.

[Anonymous No.15940773]

>>15939203
i wish i had mental quietitude. reading through some of this stuff just fills me with doom. it makes me feel like an ignorant midwit who doesn't understand anything. i'm not a liberal, but in general thinking that "the truth is anti-liberal" there's something just frightening about it. it's a new and different perspective and i welcome it, but it's making me think like everything i believe in and value is shit and wrong.

[Anonymous No.15940798]

>>15940773
>it's making me think like everything i believe in and value is shit and wrong.
If you're valuing the wrong things, isn't that a good thing? I don't mean this as an insult, but like, if Marvel Movies and s()y are the most important things to you, wouldn't it be a good thing to wake up and realize that you were wrong?

[Anonymous No.15940839]

>>15935882
it feels like it's never not on a moral decline for you people

[Anonymous No.15940855]

>>15940839
Morality is always changing. If you hold certain morals, all change is deviation from that morality. Therefore, all change is, by its nature, decline. This applies to absolutely everyone, even you, and what you believe, which is just another ideology, and is not special.

[Anonymous No.15940897]

>>15940798
i abhor marvel movies and onions shit. what i mean is liberalism in general, not in the neoliberal trite shit of today, but just liberalism. if that is not the right way, then what is? will this other right way be better and good or will it subjugate people and be taken advantage of by those in power? because that's what i fear when i read shit like "truth is anti-liberal" or whenever i see people making threads about "why liberalism failed".

although i understand that you could argue this same thing can happen and does happen in liberal democracies too. see it fuckin sucks to realize that, that i could be in the wrong, but then what? what is true then? do i have to read the book? what does spengler want? fascism? no, right? communism? also no, right? then what? 1950's america? weren't there people saying society was in decline even then? isn't there always going to be someone thinking that no matter what?

[Anonymous No.15940930]

>>15940855
>if you hold certain morals all change is deviation from that morality
see this is what i mean by "it's making me want to off myself" it all looks and sounds so twisted, like there's always a distortion of sorts no matter what you think or feel. maybe there's a better way to see this/to frame this but for now all it's doing is just making me confused and scared.

[Anonymous No.15941062]

>>15940897
>>15940930
Yes. That's sort of the problem, anon. Life is imperfect. Liberalism sells you this picture where everything is always perfect, and will always be perfect, but that's just not how the world works. But then, that's sort of the fun of it. You can't have good without bad. There can't be happy days without sad ones. Religion is, has always been, and always will be, the answer, at the end of the day.

Even more than that, engaging with reality and living is, ultimately the answer. What does Spengler want? Who cares, what do you want? Find out. Even if you never find it, if you have fun along the way, then you've found it anyways.

[Anonymous No.15941095]

>>15931367
sex gifs

[Anonymous No.15941096]

>>15940226
Another idiotic substanceless /lit/ classic.
*Why* is Spengler's opinion of technique a brainlet one? Do you even know? Which frenchmen are you even talking about? The bald pedophile?

[Anonymous No.15941138]

>>15931367
I still need to read him. He got a lot of ideas from Nietzsche so I've read, and Nietzsche was right about everything, so...

[Anonymous No.15941162]

>>15941062
>What does Spengler want? Who cares, what do you want? Find out. Even if you never find it, if you have fun along the way, then you've found it anyways.

lmao that actually really did cheer me up a lot. thanks anon. i just get so tangled up going in deep into this kind of stuff and i get so fixated that i have to understand everything and i see it as the more noble thing to do but after a while it starts to skew with your perception of just how life is, was and/or should be.

i understand that you can't have the good without the bad, and i don't want anyone to uniformally all believe the same things as me. i just want things to be fair, stable and healthy, but i know people have their own ways of seeing that, their own definitions of what's true and good and not. but doesn't that make you want to rip the hairs off your head? or maybe it is me in the wrong because i'm feeling in disarray over a battle that's already been lost since the dawn of time, right?

when have things ever been truly hundred percent fair stable and healthy for all anyways? never, right? someone will probably chime in and say fascism or communism or medieval ages or the greeks or whatever, but still

i have no ill will towards most people i disagree with/most people i dont understand. i just have a lot of distrust, that's it. i hope you understand why i think that.

[Anonymous No.15941277]

>>15941162
I understand, and wish you the best. That's all that can really be done.

[Anonymous No.15941339]

>>15932182
>>>15931944
>Marx wasn't a German; he was a Jew.

Based beyond belief. Keep dabbing on the skaven bro.

[Anonymous No.15941370]

>>15941339
Warhammerfags are cringe

[Anonymous No.15941413]

Is there a Spengler chart?

[Anonymous No.15941445]

>Spergler

[Anonymous No.15941482]

>>15941413
No but someone should make one. Here is a rudimentary list of neo-Spenglerian lit I have read

>John J Reilly
The Perfection of the West
Spengler's Future

>Amaury de Riencourt
The Soul of China
The Soul of India
The Coming Caesars

>John Farrenkopf
Prophet of Decline

Then there are branches of Spenglerian thought like Samuel P. Huntingon's Clash of Civilizations theory and Henry Kissinger's books.

[Anonymous No.15942068]

>>15940897
Why is subjugation of others bad?

[Anonymous No.15942080]

>>15940930
Are you a female?

[Anonymous No.15942326]

>>15936820
It's really not an easy read. You have to have extensive knowledge of history, especially about antiquity. And not just the Greeks, but the Persians and Indians too. Without that you won't really get his points.

[Anonymous No.15942406]

>>15938705
It's right nigger, a right wing reading of Marxism is the final level of politics.

[Anonymous No.15942474]

>>15941482
Thanks bro.

[Anonymous No.15942498]

>>15931398
>le wacky lookist zoomer xD
fuck off

[Anonymous No.15942506]

>>15933538
TOP KEK
FAGGOT BTFO

[Anonymous No.15943270]

>>15940897
>will this other right way be better and good or will it subjugate people and be taken advantage of by those in power?
That is already happening under liberalism; elites will always exist regardless of what political system you have.
It's just that liberalism has perfected the art of convincing people to enjoy their subjugation because they are showered with Brave New World-esque forms of hedonistic entertainment.
The first step of any political regime is to convince the population that the current regime they're living under is the best of all systems and to demonise all other political systems, and that way they ensure their own power. You must keep this in mind whenever you praise liberalism as the highest good based on a sensationalised hollywood film about how evil any other alternate regime is.

[Anonymous No.15944063]

>>15940897
Spengler wanted Mussolini style fascism

[Anonymous No.15944144]

>>15931367
His Cyclical History and Cultural Seasons concepts are absolute genius

[Anonymous No.15944217]

>>15944063
Spengler believed fascism was just a stepping stone to Caesarism, but was not optimistic that it would be sufficient to curb the tide of anglo-financial liberalism which at present has come to dominate the entire world.

[Anonymous No.15944231]

>>15944144
He stole it from Vico. Actually everyone stole it from Vico.

[Anonymous No.15944235]

>>15942498
When someone is bald, and has big opinions on things, it's due to their inferiority complex of baldness.
Science has proven this time and time again.
Similar thing with short people and ugly people.

[Anonymous No.15944289]

>>15944235
Skull-let cope. You’re just angry cause you would look ugly as fuck without hair

[Anonymous No.15944329]

How strong of an influence on Spengler was Hegel?

[Anonymous No.15944440]

>>15942068
It's a chore no matter how you look at it.

[Anonymous No.15944456]

>>15944289
baldie detected
everyone looks ugly as fuck without hair, that's the point.

[Anonymous No.15944460]

>>15940855
>all change is deviation from that morality
Or growth.

[Anonymous No.15944476]

>>15944329
Considering it's Hegel we're talking about, it is likely that Spengler reached out to the past and Hegel was influenced by Spnegler.

[Anonymous No.15944675]

>>15933455
>believing in women
ngmi

[Anonymous No.15944711]

>>15936551
Based
>>15936588
No, Indo-European religion is entirely against (((equality))). Modern vedic gurus call it out as bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15944737]

>>15944675
Scorpio > Pisces > Capricorn > Taurus > Leo > Aries > Cancer > Virgo > Libra > Aquarius > Gemini > Sagittarius

[Anonymous No.15944831]

>>15931367
Literally just copied Vico and threw in some fresh ideas about math

[Anonymous No.15944864]

>>15944329
He kind of is disregarding Hegels whole scientific rigor of doing philosophy

[Anonymous No.15944977]

>>15944329
This guy here is correct about the Spengler opposing the scientific rigour of Hegel >>15944864
Though Spengler's philosophy of History definitely takes aspects of Hegel especially the idea of history being the actualisation of the potentiality laden in Spirit, Spengler's idea of Civilisations as 'superorganisms' is taken from Goethe's conception of metamorphosis

[Anonymous No.15944994]

>>15931944
kike

[Anonymous No.15945119]

Is it me or is he a clone of Aleister Crowley?

[Anonymous No.15945300]

>>15945119
>All bald skinnyfat people in suits are the same

[Anonymous No.15945376]

>>15935805
Hegemony is the decline

[Anonymous No.15945418]

>>15939223
I don’t know what it means to be western now

[Anonymous No.15945500]

>>15942406
>Istria
It sucks

[Anonymous No.15945568]

>mfw caeser isn't here yet

On a side note, who was the last Caeser? Hitler?

[Anonymous No.15945591]

>>15933797
back to soi bean field labcoat worshiper

[Anonymous No.15946088]

Why do people see the coming era of Caesarism as a bad thing? Of course it won't be good for the common people or the current elites but it would be an opportunity for great men to rise. The chaos that would come after the end of the West would also lead to the rise of great men (unless Christianity 2.0 comes out of nowhere)

[Anonymous No.15946109]

>>15945568
Stalin

[Anonymous No.15946130]

>>15946109
He came into an established state
So no

[Anonymous No.15946132]

>>15946088
>Why do people see the coming era of Caesarism as a bad thing
Because they haven't read the book, and don't really know what it means. But feel the need to tell what they think about it regardlessly.

[Anonymous No.15946397]

>>15946132
This.
Just remember that most people on /lit/ have not read the book but feel the urgent bugman need to interject their opinion about how "le West isn't declining because we have science and medicine and we have exported our culture of gay rights, democracy and women's liberation to those regressive arabs in the Middle East!1!11!!!"
>Nineteenth-century medicine, a true product of Rationalism, is from this point of view also a phenomenon of age. It prolongs each life whether this is desirable or no. It prolongs even death. It replaces the number of children by the number of greybeards. It promotes the world outlook of panem et circenses by estimating the value of life by the number of its days, not by their usefulness. It prevents the natural process of selection and thereby accentuates the decay of the race
—Spengler, The Hour of Decision

[Anonymous No.15946547]

>>15945568
Hitler was a Hannibal figure. Caesar will arrive this century.

[Anonymous No.15947356]

>>15936588
Universalism and egalitarianism come from christianity so no

[Anonymous No.15948648]

>>15934531
Ah, the eternal jannie

[Anonymous No.15948745]

>>15938802
Is he not allowed to have a hobby?