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...for persons aged 18 to 28. My budget for books this fiscal year is about $1,000. What should I try to buy?

Also, happy to answer any questions about my work.

>> No.15924299

What percentage of people there are noticeably off the wall and what percentage could pass for a regular person in society?

>> No.15924310

>>15924289
Buy at least one copy of the Marriage of Cadmus and Harmony. It will help the patients amuse themselves with the myths in the book :)

How do you keep yourself sane?

>> No.15924321

>>15924289
What is the goal? To soothe and console, to challenge belief patterns, inform, ...?

>> No.15924324

As many copies of Motorman as possible

>> No.15924329

>>15924289
James Herriot - All Creatures Great and Small

>> No.15924331

>>15924289
>Also, happy to answer any questions about my work.
Palahniuk mentioned something about his books being banned in prisons, because they are too stimulating. Is everything up to your discretion or do you have a censor?

>> No.15924347

I would recommend The Remains of the Day.

>> No.15924368

Do you give the sad boys blowie joeys? I think they would like that.

>> No.15924372

>>15924299
Very roughly:
>20% severally impaired, would be picked up by the police or social services within minutes on the outside
>40% would be seen as 'weird' and have a lot of difficulty, but could pass for somebody that shouldn't necessarily be in an institutional setting.
>15% are probably sane except for one aspect of their lives that is weighing heavily on them. Usually victims of trauma, or people that suffered emotional breakdowns due to things like career stress. These patients are often voluntary or were committed by a relatively high end psychologist or family doctor.
>10% seem totally normally and often are polite and well adjusted (on the surface) but are profoundly suicidal and would kill themselves if left unsupervised. These people just seem hollow, and it's quite sad.
>15% probably have a condition that could be treated outpatient, but have been committed either due to substance abuse issues, a court order, or are there voluntarily out of an abundance of caution

>>15924331
New additions to the catalog get checked by admin, usually they just read the wikipedia summaries. We can't have anything that promotes conspiracy theories, denies the validity of evidence based mental and physical healthcare, promotes violence (we can have violent works, just not works that call for violence directly), or anything about current events or recent history (so even a biography of Trump or Obama, for instance, would be problematic. Things like that can prompt ugly political discussions or feed paranoid delusions.

>> No.15924396

>>15924289
Virginia Woolf

>> No.15924406

>>15924289
Get a collection of tolstoys short stories, I’m talking the ones that are <40 pages. They were written for the peasants and have very graspable, positive meanings in them. Plays would be a good thing too.

>> No.15924421

>>15924372
>We can't have anything that denies the validity of evidence based mental and physical healthcare
kek sounds about right from my experience in mental healthcare, psychiatrists are real pretentious bastards, at least the ones that finish training. With Thomas Szasz not an option, I'd recommend getting any of Terry Pratchett's discworld series - a solid comedy/fantasy that's easy to get into.

>> No.15924593

>>15924406
This is actually a really cool idea.

>> No.15924601

Gerald Durrell's animal collector stories are funny and lovely to read

>> No.15924622

>>15924289
I have severe OCD, to the point that I am completely paralyzed. Should I commit myself?

>> No.15924629

Buy Gravity's Rainbow and a bunch of occult grimoires.

>> No.15924651

>>15924289
The Yoga Vasistha

>> No.15924737

>>15924289

Jane Austen and Eliot might be suitable.

How did you get into this work and do you enjoy it? Do you get a lot of interaction with patients? What does your day look like?

>> No.15924789

unironically

several copies of KJV new testament
Gospel of Thomas
Hermetica by Walter Scott, vol. 1
The Bhagavad Gita
The Upanishads
Ulysses
Finnegans Wake
Beelzebub's tales to his grandson
The Neville Goddard Reader
Valis and other Philip K. Dick
Gravity's Rainbow
The Complete works of H.P. Lovecraft
Phenomenology of Spirit
complete works of Plato
Tao te Ching
complete works of William Blake
complete works of W. B. Yeats
any collections of Shakespeare
The Tibetan Book of the Dead
Thoreau
David Muir
Process and Reality by A. N. Whitehead
The Origins and History of Consciousness
Aion, The Red Book and other Jung
anything of Simone Weil
The Silmarillion
any Arthurian romances

>> No.15924801

>>15924789
also Gene Wolfe

>> No.15924816

What I would like to be able to read upon inevitably being institutionalized:

Spenser, Shakespeare, Donne, Milton, Blake, Wordsworth, Keats, Whitman, Dickinson, TS Eliot, Wallace Stevens, Elizabeth Bishop, Heaney, Ashbery, Anne Carson

Plato, Augustine, Hegel, Žižek

Homer, Virgil, Ovid, Dante, Cervantes, Austen, Dickens, Melville, Dostoevsky, Proust, Woolf, Joyce, Kafka, Tolkien, Gaddis, Pynchon, Denis Johnson, DFW, Saunders, Knausgård, Ferrante, Moshfegh

Please, and thank you.

>> No.15924818

Get some Dickens

>> No.15924876

>>15924737
I majored in English in college, couldn’t find a job, and eventually found this job listed on a state jobs website. They wanted people with library science degrees but they weren’t very realistic in terms of pay or responsibility to net those sorts of candidates, so I got the job. I’m pretty good with Microsoft excel and that helped, since we use it for some of our organization.

I perform three functions in my typical day. Logging books in and out, checking books that get logged in for damage (and reporting the person who damage it) and supervising readers in our reading room (generally patients that lost the privilege of reading unsupervised because they damage books). We also have a lot of readers in the reading room that could be elsewhere, but prefer it, because unlike the day room there is no television.

I like the job. It can be a little unsettling being around people with severe mental illness, but most of them are pretty decent to me since I’m not part of the medical staff and don’t play a role in manhandling them.

The worst thing that has happened was a suicide attempt in one of the bean bag chairs. A girl removed the zipper pull from the bag, put a bit of an edge on it by working it back and forth on the tile, then cut her arm from wrist to elbow, with a copy of Dostoevsky’s ‘The Idiot’ in her lap. She lived, and has been with us for over two years now. She is very quiet and self-disciplined, and plays the piano quite beautifully, but she still wants to die more than anything.

>> No.15924915

>>15924876
Do you have time to read at your job? Do you write?

>> No.15924938

>>15924915
50% of my time is downtime, but I have to be vigilant, so I can’t really get that into a work. I keep a journal, and a sketch patients (both of which are gross HIPAA violations so that’s risky).

>> No.15924941

Anything by Edgar Rice Burroughs but strongly leaning towards Tarzan
I think Gogol would be nice too, if you get a short story collection then maybe avoid Diaries of a Madman. Rest is very lush in description of food and landscape.
Would also recommend Elmore Leonard Westerns (Valdez is Coming, 40 Lashes Less One, Gunsights etc) but they are a bit violent with gunfighting and such.
>>15924876
That last part is so sad.

>> No.15924944

>>15924789
>David Muir
meant John Muir, I don't know where I got David

>> No.15924958

>>15924876
Why does she want to commit suicide? Is she nuts, or a normal person outside of that? Being around mentally people I cannot imagine would help your mental state. Can't someone just act like they want to commit suicide and live there for free?

>> No.15924980

>>15924789
+1 for blake actually

>> No.15924997

>>15924958
She has major depressive disorder that is very treatment resistant. Coupled with that she has very low self esteem and is ‘afraid of her own shadow’ - very anxious and meek.

I don’t know what the root cause, it could all be a chemical imbalance, but if you made me guess, I would say she is a victim of child sexual abuse.

Yes you could claim to be suicidal, but there are suicide risk and depression screenings that claim to be able to detect when one is ‘faking bad’ to use their jargon.

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>>15924289
I first read VALIS by Philip K. Dick on my inpatient psychiatric stay. I had voluntarily gone because I had unsuccessfully attempted suicide. Reading VALIS was kind of a trip, at least the first part.

>> No.15925035

>>15924372
>80% of those inpatients camouflage with the rest of society
>really makes you wonder what percentage of society is made up of people indistinguishable from people at these facilities
I feel like my own mother probably counts, and many of the neighbors I've lived around, and possibly a good chunk of the people I meet online. Do you have any thoughts on what society should do about this? On the one hand, I feel like putting people in facilities can be bad because of potential abuse or negligence. On the other hand, undiagnosed people with mental issues end up raising children, and as the child of someone that's probably that way, that stuff fucks up the way you end up raised, socially and psychologically. A lot of these people are incapable of taking good care of themselves because they have problems learning or managing their lives like professionals and so they end up poor, and end up raising children like that. I've met many good people who are poor due to their parents, and a big chunk of them basically have mentally unstable parents. I feel like society just doesn't care or something. It breaks my heart that so many children in this world have to live like this through no fault of their own, those families deserve to be taken care of better. People focus on other forms of institutional inequality, but not this for some reason.

>> No.15925106

>>15924876
>>15924997
Do you speak to these people for longer than a few seconds? What do they talk about? Do you see any patterns in the books they read? Are you afraid of any of them? I've dealt with mentally ill people and they terrify me.

>> No.15925183

>>15924876
>The worst thing that has happened was a suicide attempt in one of the bean bag chairs. A girl removed the zipper pull from the bag, put a bit of an edge on it by working it back and forth on the tile, then cut her arm from wrist to elbow, with a copy of Dostoevsky’s ‘The Idiot’ in her lap.

beauty will save the world

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>>15924289
>>15924876
Sincerely don't understand why society looks to prevent individual's from ending their own existence. Whilst I understand the need to guard someone during what might be a temporary lapse of sanity, if their position is continual and has some kind of developed justification of the intellect why on earth does the collective look to deprive the individual of the choice they should always have.
Even though I am asking, I have come to the thought that it is either the result of NPCs who unthinkingly blurt "suicide = bad" due to cultural values, or from a position of selfishness, forcing someone emotionally significant to you to continue on, even against their own will, because them miserable and resentful in a cell (but alive) is better than the idea of them no longer existing.

I open the floor to you /lit/

>> No.15925237

>>15925183
>beauty will save the world

What do you mean by this?

>> No.15925275

>>15925194
Human lives are extremely expensive. Suicidal thoughts are irrational. Most survivors are glad that they did not succeed. It is unethical to allow someone to commit suicide, no matter how badly they think they want to. This is what I've thought of and have not researched at all.

>> No.15925276

>>15925237
it's a paraphrase from The Idiot

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>>15924876
Buy this book. I think angsty teens in a psych ward will really relate to it.

>> No.15925364

>>15925106
I’ve spoken to a few of them for hours. A lot of it is pretty squalid, people’s every day worries (eg ‘how am I going to get a job when I get out?’) but some of it is fascinating. I’ve had a lot of conversations centering around the question of “why live?” with people that have many reasons to die. I’ve also talked to fully delusional people, of course, including a man who believed he was a time traveling confederate colonel.

The really scary people don’t get library privileges. Most people read Oprah’s book club type crap, but there is significant overlap between the creative/brainy professions and mental patients. I have one guy that was a French literature grad student who could probably do my job better than I can, were it not for the fact that he hears voices 24 hours a day.

>> No.15925378

>>15924289
Books that can easily be read in small chunks such as the duration of the average time of a human bowel movement, for instance.

If you know what I'm saying.

I read the entire Sharpe's Rifles series (22 books) at work that way. 5, 10, 15 minute chunks. I snuck the books in tucked under my waistband. Did the whole series in less than a year. One after the other. Then I did the Master and Commander books, got all the way to the 17th one before I was fired from that job for unrelated reasons. I'm currently almost done with the very last one, Blue at the Mizzen.

Or anyway, I belong in a loonie bin, and that's the kind of books I like.

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>>15925275
So we should keep humans alive because society has invested the capital required to raise it to maturity? Are we to be little more than livestock

>Suicidal thoughts are irrational
That's certainly not true, would say some of the greatest thinkers took their own lives, I think it's the height of arrogance for society and the common man to assume their thought is more developed than the likes of many historical examples, such as Cato, who fell on his own sword and, who when revived by doctors, ripped the stitches out of the sealed wound and reached in, opening it wider to assert his own freedom - rather than living in Caesar's world

>> No.15925451

>>15925402
>So we should keep humans alive because society has invested the capital required to raise it to maturity?
Yes, as well as the other reasons you ignored.
>would say some of the greatest thinkers took their own lives
The "greatest thinkers" are not always rational actors.

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>>15925451
>Yes, as well as the other reasons you ignored.
This was not something you were supposed to say "yes" to, if you didn't realise.

>The "greatest thinkers" are not always rational actors.
I can assure you that they are far more rational than the common man and indeed you, just because you fail to understand someone's position speaks more to you, rather than their lack of any 'rationality'. It must truly be the height of arrogance to say that you know better than such examples as Socrates, who drank hemlock rather than to compromise on his holy ideals, because current common opinion is "suicide = bad" and you unthinkingly align your opinion with the majority.

>> No.15925607

>>15925547
I'm not interested in the rhetoric and posturing. I'm not furthering this conversation. I'm not ruining the OPs thread.

>> No.15925633

Basically all this shit ITT should be disregarded. You should be ordering 80% extremely entry level shit that is actually saying something but not pulp drivel but also not so intimidating as to scare them off.

The other 20% can be patrician works

>> No.15925644

>>15924289
Doing god's work anon. I've worked in such a place as a nurse, and I would have loved to see someone doing what you do in there.

>> No.15925717

>>15925633
This. Peasant lit

Simple stories. Vivid details. Positive, moral lessons

>> No.15925818

>>15924289
When I was committed I enjoyed reading a lot of Dostoevsky, they're very psychological. When in a depressed state you can find relief in dark content that has hints of humor in it. Although if it were to make someone's depression worse I could see them being an issue.

My other recommendation is anything Vonnegut - lighthearted and wacky. Met a few people while in hospital that also enjoyed reading him.

>> No.15926311

>>15924289
how do you get a job such as yours? RN? Med School?

>> No.15926337

>>15926311
Also I've just started reading again so this may sound like pseud suggestion, but Brothers Karamazov and The Possessed. I am reading both atm and I'm actually enjoying them, had to wet my palette first though with Dune, which was considerably easier and actually got me motivated to invest my time in reading.

>> No.15926401

Roald Dahl's short stories

>> No.15926536

>>15924289
buy a shit ton of esoteric shit and make them go super schizo

>> No.15927402

>>15924289
Terry Pratchett, Kazuo Ishiguro, Ursula K Le Guin

>> No.15928141

>>15925717
This is a very dated and mean attitude toward the mentally ill.

>> No.15928444

>>15928141
Agreed, works like that will only further alienate suicidal people. I'm mostly recovered myself (tho had enough of a social safety net to escape institutionalization) and reading "peasant lit" just reinforces the gulf between me and others who can still view life as desirable. You end up feeling worse for not being able to relate to simple pleasures.

>> No.15928485

>>15924289
Redpill them

>> No.15928529

>>15924876
Is she hot or cute?

>> No.15929568

>>15928529
Sorta. Dark eyes/dark hair. Thin. I’m pretty sure she is Jewish, based on her family name and some snippets of conversation.

She always looks really tired and despondent, naturally.

>> No.15930922

Bump, drop some more stories Op

>> No.15931404

>>15925364
>be confederate general
>discover time travel and go to the future
>no one believes you

>> No.15931583

>>15924289
bump

>> No.15931735

>>15924789
>Finnegans Wake
they're trying to prevent psychotic episodes, not make them readable in book form

>> No.15931880

>>15931735
is it worth reading, unironically?

>> No.15931915

>>15924289
Get a couple copies of Paradise Lost if you don't have any already.

>> No.15931971

>>15924289
Do you ever feel guilty for depriving people of freedom? Do the people they would effect with their insanities really matter to you? Living life in a mental hospital, especially an american one, is no way to live, don't you think?

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>>15931880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1dNTUu2MLg
http://www.finwake.com/01/01.htm

>> No.15932288

>>15930922
A 25 year old man, admitted for suicide attempt, kept a journal in an invented language that nobody could decipher, but was definitely real, to him, as he could read from it verbatim, far faster than anyone possibly could if they were writing gibberish and then making up what they were reading back. He was ultimately banned from doing this, as the staff 'needed' to be able to read anything he wrote to check for problematic writings. I spoke to him at some length. He told me he loved fantasy novels, especially Tolkien, and had taken up creating languages in homage. He was pretty broken up when he was banned from doing so. He was released toward the end of last year and threw himself in front of a train in his hometown not long after.

19 year old girl suffering from psychotic depression. A form of depression so intense that the sufferer experiences dark delusions that intensify the depression and can lead to extremely frequent instances of self harm. She like to 'draw' if you could call it that and would fill notebooks with abstract drawings, mostly formless. She talked to herself a lot, though interestingly this was not considered part of her illness, per se, but simply a coping mechanism she developed to deal with the isolation she felt. After about three months, she submitted to receive ECT to reduce the frequency and intensity of her self injury. After each treatment, the self injury and depression would abate, but so would her memory. I introduced myself to her many times, afresh, and she could never really get through a book so I kept the same one loaned out to her for a long time. It became clear that the therapy was slowly diminishing her overall mental acuity, and eventually she stopped reading altogether, stopped drawing, and the self-injury reduced to a level that enabled her to be discharged.

>> No.15932317

>>15931971
That's an interesting question, and I wonder how I would be handled if we ever had a Nuremberg for the psychiatric industry. There are definitely people here that shouldn't be here, but I play no role in keeping them or releasing them. On the org chart, I'm in the same category as the janitor. I have no authority.

>> No.15932322

>>15924622
I know it's late but maybe you'll come back and read this.
Try to find a therapist close to you that specializes in OCD.
I'd also recommend SSRI's, don't listen to the imbeciles on here who've never experienced severe mental health issues who tell you they don't work. They've given me my life back.

>> No.15932369

When I was institutionalized, I read:

Illiad
Dune
Wolkers
De Wereld Moet Beter Worden - Biesheuvel
Narziss und Goldmund - Hesse
The Joke - Kundera
Mathilda - Dahl

>> No.15932372

>>15932288
What percentage of these people are given a legit diagnosis, and what percent are undiagnosable?
Like the man with the invented languages, was he diagnosed with Schizophrenia?

>> No.15932396

>>15932372
Pretty much everyone gets a diagnosis. It's pretty hard to hold somebody, in my state, without one. The invented language guy was diagnosed with Schizoid personality disorder, not schizophrenia.

>> No.15932505

>>15932288
I have to ask, although it's off-topic: what do you personally think of ECT; is it at certain circumstances necessary?

>> No.15932511

>>15932396
How long have you been working there?
Have you thought of quitting sense you've started there?
Also I really want to know about the guy who thinks he's a time traveling confederate general.

>> No.15932524

Get some Stirner.

>> No.15932791

>>15924789
>>15924816
I mean, these are the type of things that we like and ideally everyone else should want to read, but in reality they don't and then he's blown his budget on stuff none of his constituents will read. it's fine to have all that available, but only with an unlimited budget. also, 18-28, yeah, plenty of them will want advanced or mature works, but a lot of them won't. 18-21 are still just kids, really; unlike us, most kids don't want to attend college or read at that level independently.

what that means for op I'm not sure, but probably the type of shit we liked in elementary and middle school. so, lots of fantasy and sci-fi for the guys and YA and romance for chicks, I guess. Vonnegut is pretty life-affirming and able to talk about topics central to the human condition without the reader needing any literary baggage (large vocabulary, familiarity with classical or biblical tropes, etc.)
but probably the majority of your spending should be tom clancy, grishom, oprah books, self-help, best-sellers, comfy kid's lit for nostalgia trips. certainly have classic literature available, but no more than, say, a third or quarter of spending. plus you can swipe a lot of both kinds out of those little free libraries. there's google maps of them, I assume.

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>>15924789
>Unironically
>Phenomenology of Spirit
What are you smoking, my dude?

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>>15932828
Probably doing whippits.

>> No.15932874

>>15932791
I'm the first poster you linked and I think I made a pretty well-rounded list. It's a mix of enlightened literature that spits pure Logos, schizophrenic ramblings that also happen to make sense and absolute comf that reflects the experience of something like taking a walk in nature. Seems perfect for a crazy house as far as I'm concerned. I'd love to see what a schizophrenic would make of any single one of these books, and I'm pretty sure it'd affect them positively.

>> No.15932897

>>15932874
P.S. most of them are absolutely entry-level

>> No.15932935

>>15932505
Not Op, but psychiatrist. Literature recs ECT for major depressive disorder not responding to drugs and/or therapy.

>> No.15933013

>>15924622
>>15932505
Also not OP but ECT is a fad-treatment, just like cocaine and lobotomies. Improvement of living situation and therapy is the only consistent treatment for mental illness. Psychiatrists can't even explain the mechanism for their "treatments".
t. psychologist

>> No.15933178

>>15933013
It isn't a fad, but I take your point. Patients do need better living conditions and therapy. Although the exact way in which ECT works is not known, namely. that is there is a gap in theory, in practice ECT can produce a dramatic remission of symptoms.

>> No.15933186

>>15932505
I think it's fine with informed consent. I worry though that successive treatments diminish the ability of the patient to deliver informed consent.

>> No.15933192

>>15933013
Psychology is a shit field and a shit profession.

>> No.15933222

>>15932505
I remember that Carrie Fisher said on Craig Ferguson's show that she liked getting ECT.

>> No.15933709

>>15933222
She’s probably one of the most well known examples of the success of the treatment.

>> No.15933719

>>15932791
I'm the second poster and qualified my reading list as personal preference. Also its 18-28, not -21. But if I were to be institutionalized and the only books I had access to were commercial literature, I would bite through my tongue.

>> No.15933792

>>15925275
>It's expensive to raise children to maturity, so we should invest money into keeping them alive in a state where they are incapable of contributing to society
>It's irrational to want to kill yourself, even in the face of indisputable evidence that nonexistence would be a better outcome, and therefore people must be prevented from performing this one irrational act (but not any of the many, many other irrational things people do every day)
Can you honestly not see that being categorically opposed to suicide isn't actually rational? You're just sperging out when other people have a different flavor of irrationality than yours.

>> No.15933942

>>15933792
>kill myself
>"Yeah, I win. :)"
lol

>> No.15935129

Is it bad I fantasize about being a patient in there?

>> No.15935260

>>15933942
>Think about life solely in terms of winning and losing
>Get offended when people choose to "lose"
I guess you're so upset because cheated you out of your chance to gloat?

>> No.15935542

>>15933013
>Improvement of living situation
How fundamental would you say is this bit?
t. somewhat depressed aspie that has been an utter mess since HS ended two years ago and still lives with his overbearing, alcoholic , OCD and cancer ridden mum, and wanted to move out for already quite a while

>> No.15935551

>>15924289
Berserk manga

>> No.15935585

>>15925275
>Human lives are extremely expensive
I'll reimburse you later nigger
>Most survivors are glad that they did not succeed.
literally cope
> It is unethical to allow someone to commit suicide, no matter how badly they think they want to
yikes
> researched
kek there's no science behind ethics. it's imaginary.
>>15933792
you are very correct.
people fear other people committing suicide because it makes them remember that none of it matters.
it goes both ways though. you don't have to die either, but knowing that being alive has no real value affects people.
personally I think of it that time really doesn't matter.
if you look at time really wide you see you've been dead and haven't existed for most of all time.
if you shrink your life into a point it's like you've either always been dead or never existed.
so what's the point? just being alive is basically suicide.
>>15933942
if you're the winner then why aren't you celebrating?

>> No.15935590

>>15925547
So what they are like gods?
impossible to understand?
or maybe you being the protagonist makes you the only one special enough to understand... cause you're based and red pilled right?

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>>15924289
>psychiatric facility
Anti-Oedipus
A Thousand Plateaus
Madness and Civilization
Libidinal Economy
The Anti-Christ
The Philosophy of Redemption
The World as Will and Representation
Jung's Black Books
The Enneads
Fanged Noumena
The Myth of Mental Illness

>> No.15935695

>>15935542
Incredibly fundamental. Nothing in psychology or psychiatry matters if a clients living situation is shit and won't improve. Therapy can help improve a living situation, at which point further psychiatric intervention could be considered. However, your living situation clearly can improve, it's just a matter of whether you can work up the motivation to get out of your mother's house by yourself, or you can get counselling of some sort to help you with strategies to cope better with your shit living situation and eventually get out.

>> No.15936730

>>15932288
These made me really sad.

>> No.15936941
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I've had really great success with PKD novels and short stories. Especially 'Scanner'. His books are easy to read and are incredibly relatable to someone that deals with paranoid thoughts on a regular basis. I usually give Scanner to the substance abuse patients and, on more than one occasion, they've told me that they didn't even realize books were able to have such an effect. He absolutely nails the paranoid sorrow that comes along with having only the faintest grip on reality. Just be mindful of who you give them to... For instance, I'm pretty sure giving a newly admitted paranoid schizophrenic a copy of UBIK would have just about the same effect as dosing their Crystal Light with LSD. Bad news.

>> No.15937860

>>15924289
I'm curious, do they allow "One flew over the cuckoo's nest" in your loony bin? You mentioned that literature questioning mental facilities aren't allowed, but it's criticising archaic mental hospitals, and features patients getting over their mental issues. I can only see it helping them.

>> No.15938246

>>15937860
No because it encourages breaking out and also euthanizing your fellow patients.

>> No.15938284

>>15924622
this isn't a helpful reply but i relate, anon. most of my days are subsumed by thoughts and actions that exist in a realm of unreality, and a portion of those render me essentially incapacitated.

when you feel like you exist on a completely different plane (OCD does that), it's hard to even feel like a participant in the world, therefore rendering literature, philosophy, and engagement with others unsatisfying and impalpable. there is no pondering human reality when your 'reality' is defined by base obsession, and detached from human experience. (sorry for tangent just feel like complete shit. and yes i'm trying to pursue therapy and psychiatry etc, but everyone worthwhile is completely booked up, hopefully not by "during corona i realized that i am nothing without my friends and job and uh oh this makes me feel icky emotion" retards)