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What does /lit/ think about this book?

I’ll summarize the ideas briefly:

>A conservative is guided by a moralistic higher power. God exists and influences everything we do.

>A conservative does not believe in the call of the French Revolution.

>Equality is the death of progress.

>A civilized society only exists when a natural aristocracy steps up and leads the masses.

>A conservative isn’t a Democrat, as equal voting power misrepresents what’s really good for society.

>Property is power, and needs to be adequately represented in modern government.

>Abstract concepts and numbers are unable to adequately describe the human condition.

>A conservative wants to change society, but only gradually and not as a result of hasty decisions.

Thoughts? If you have any questions let me know.

>> No.15922094

tl;dr a Conservative is someone who believes Good exists, and Good is independent of pleasure.

>> No.15922102

>>15922057
sounds really boring

>> No.15922116
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>The Conservative-
Stopped reading there. It's shit.

>> No.15922171

>>15922116
>a few random works by marx
>nietzsche for some reason?
>whitehead for some reason?
>a few random books that demonstrate why marxism is horeshit, demonstrating that the author has never actually read any of the books on the chart
>literal cuck porn
god even your literature recommendations take too fucking long

>> No.15923168
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>>15922057
Is George F. Will worth reading?

>> No.15923180

>>15922116
How much have you read of this, retarded faggot?

>> No.15923187

>>15922057
Imagine thinking democracy has ever actually existed in the US or the West. "Democracy" is just a fancy word for plutocracy. Kirk's "natural aristocracy" (aka the owners of capital) are still running things as always. He need not worry.

>> No.15923191

>>15923180
You don't have to read a book to know it's right, you stupid chud.

>> No.15923214

>>15922057
a good book to read if you already agree with the premises and want to be flattered. You are better off reading The Reactionary Mind or The Conservative Intellectual Movement in the United States by Nash for intellectual history and the Perlstein books for political history

>> No.15923563

I recently read The Conservative Movement by Paul Gottfried and enjoyed it quite a bit. It puts Kirk in historical context too.

>> No.15923592

>>15922057
>A conservative is guided by a moralistic
Which conservative has ever been guided by morals rather than self-interest or a reactionary mindset in defence of power?

>> No.15923612

>>15923592
Kant

>> No.15923632

>>15923612
I didn't know Kant was a politician.

>> No.15923663

>>15923632
Cope

>> No.15923672

>>15923592
Every politician is guided by self-interest. As are you and I.

>> No.15923760

>>15923672
1. Dodging the question.
2. There have been politicians who sacrified themselves for a greater good. Look at Nelson Mandela for instance.

>> No.15923815

>>15922116
I don’t think the person who made this chart has read any of those books

>> No.15923825

>>15922057
Do you really need a manual on how to be retarded?

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>>15923760
>nelson mandela

>> No.15923871

>>15923191
You really need to have sex

>> No.15923949

>>15922057
Christianity is a totalizing religion, so any political philosophy that takes it seriously will either stop doing so, or become dominated by theology. Based on your summary, conversativism is in this unstable equilibrium, and a small minority to boot. Mainstream US righties are secularized cultural Christians enthralled to capital.

>> No.15924064

>>15923168
No. He's just a newspaper op-ed guy. TCM and The Roots of American Order by Kirk are serious and seminal works

>> No.15924192

>>15923826
He spent decades in prison declining deal after deal that would have led to his release. How did he not sacrifice himself?

>> No.15924243

>>15923612
Kant was a liberal

>> No.15924436

>>15924192
Adolf Hitler and many underlings, George Lincoln Rockwell, Enoch Powell, Oswald Mosley, Robert E. Lee, William Pierce, Joseph McCarthy, King Charles the Martyr are all conservative or reactionary men who sacrificed much, in some cases their lives, in the name of their beliefs.

In a healthy society, we would make idols of our own martyrs, not based tirefire black man, though to be fair, not necessarily any of the men I mentioned either.

>> No.15924442

>>15924436
Oops
Meant to reply to: >>15923592

>> No.15924650

>>15923168
George Will is a liberal, so no.

>> No.15924669

>>15923563
I love Gottfried. I have to pick that one up when I have the chance.

>> No.15924675

>>15923592
you must be 18 years or older to post here

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>>15923592

>> No.15926587

honestly, a very poor case for conservatism, and i am a sympathetic reader.
better to just read directly from the works of those surveyed.

>> No.15926618

>>15926561
you rescued this from the last page just to post a stupid cartoon? please fuck off yourself

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>>15926618
>he thinks it is ethically incorrect to save an alright thread from the last page while ridiculing a cro magnon retard

>> No.15926709

>>15924192
going to prison because you and your wife quite literally linched a group of people of the opposite race is not sacrifice, atleast not self-sacrifice. Read more books. South Africa became shit once the shitskins got a hold of it.