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[Anonymous No.15900895]

any books on the afterlife?
I think that theres a possibility of it existing because of the way consciousness and memory works.

[Anonymous No.15900898]

>>15900895
>I think that theres a possibility of it existing because of the way consciousness and memory works.
Nice leap of logic

[Anonymous No.15900911]

[Anonymous No.15900914]

>>15900895

[Anonymous No.15900919]

if there is a heaven i hope only white people can get in.

[Anonymous No.15900920]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uz6anwm47g

[Anonymous No.15900931]

>>15900920
That chart put into a nice visual representation of the thoughts ive been having

[Anonymous No.15900944]

>>15900895
The last book of Plato's Republic

[Anonymous No.15900970]

>>15900920
>>15900931
same. Reincarnation makes a ton of sense even if there is no soul or karma. Given this, it’s reasonable to try to make the world a better place, because you could be born in it again. There’s karma at work, in a way

[Anonymous No.15900978]

>>15900895
Start with the greeks.

[Anonymous No.15901131]

>>15900920
i dont know why but i find it ironic how he dude in that video is now dead

[Anonymous No.15901667]

>>15900970
Reincarnation is for brainlets
That pic isn't even about reincarnation anyway

[Anonymous No.15901745]

>>15900920
Can someone explain why this pic is wrong?

[jesus No.15902411]

>>15900895
it is so good people die.

[Anonymous No.15902478]

Phaedo, Gorgias, Republic, Phaedrus

[Anonymous No.15902518]

>>15900895
Heaven and the Afterlife

[Anonymous No.15903831]

>>15901745
death isnt a thing that happens, its when things happening ends. when you die, you dont end up exactly where you were, you no longer are. before you were born, you werent, afterwards, you arent. no state isnt a state on its own.

[Anonymous No.15903862]

>>15903831
>when you die, you dont end up exactly where you were, you no longer are. before you were born, you werent, afterwards, you arent.
same thing. Your future self is “weren’t” as soon as you die.

[Anonymous No.15903869]

>>15900919
Reality isn’t enough for you and your white privilege? You want to colonise the afterlife too? You know the ancient Israelites weren’t white right? Smh

[Anonymous No.15903881]

>>15903831
That's just semantics and nothing in your post disproves what is said in the picture. You also operate on baseless assumptions

[Anonymous No.15903883]

>>15900895
>I think that theres a possibility of it existing because of the way consciousness and memory works.
How did you come to that conclusion? When grandma's memory is gone due to Alzheimer's does that mean that a part of her soul is in heaven now? Doesn't that constitute wishful thinking and violate the Occam's Razor?

[Anonymous No.15903898]

>>15903883
When my laptop stops working because I poured water on the keyboard does that mean that the Internet stops existing?
Materialists are dumb

[Anonymous No.15903913]

>>15903883
>>15903898
>when I pour water on my grandma does that mean I want to have sex with her

[Anonymous No.15903921]

>>15903913
When in doubt, always assume that you want to fuck your family members.

[Anonymous No.15903943]

>>15900920
Holy shit how confused can one shitposter be. I wouldn't be able to concoct a better piece of incomprehensible drivel if I tried for a week.
>time doesn't exist if any given thing doesn't exist
>because time doesn't exist we now reduce anything we want to absurd
>therefore any given thing must exist and never cease to exist
how fucking stupid do you need to be to fall for that?

[Anonymous No.15903948]

>>15900895
Yes, the entirety of human literature is about the afterlife

[Anonymous No.15903949]

>>15903943
The reasoning may be wrong, but the conclusions the picture makes are right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEU2BmuuQj8

[Anonymous No.15903951]

>>15903898
When I smash the boombox, where does the music go? Checkmate materialists.

[Anonymous No.15903958]

>>15900919
cringe

[Anonymous No.15903960]

>>15903951
>consciousness is generated by the physical!
>I know this because I have only been able to observe physical phenomena with my physical means of observation
Genius

[Anonymous No.15904008]

>>15903960
No shit mystic, what part of Occam's Razor don't you understand? Either grandma's memory is broken with her brain or you invent unsubstantiated bullshit by claiming that grandma's consciousness is backed up in the fucking cloud. Memory has different types that are broken with different brain damage, explain that dumbass. Explain how personality can be changed with brain damage (Phinneas Gage) if you postulate some retarded soul Internet. Explain how every aspect of personhood has a brain part you can damage and therefore remove.

[Anonymous No.15904023]

>>15904008
>why is the transmission modified when I fuck with the transmitter?
Stop citing occam's razor when it doesn't apply to your "argument", midwit.
I don't care about convincing dumb physicalists that they're wrong, it's not the point of the thread. Believe what you want to believe. I can already tell that nothing will get through to you.

[Anonymous No.15904037]

>>15903951
>>15904008
See >>15903949
Or if your attention span is too short: https://youtu.be/jEU2BmuuQj8?t=1275

[Anonymous No.15904048]

>>15903883
No but one day she will able to know what it is like to be conscious again
The reason why I tie memory and consciousness together is that you can not be conscious while constantly forgetting stuff. In this moment I can think because I remember my previous thoughts and my prior thinking. I am in a state of remembrance.
I had this revelation when I underwent Anesthesia, what would have happened if I had died during the Anesthesia? Well i would not have remembered being put under in the first place. The reason why we can wake up from a deep sleep is because we have a context of being put asleep in the first place so we must wake up. Death is sort of similar as there has to be a time when you will eventually reawaken. This can take billions, trillions or gazillion years because when you are dead you have no concept of time so it might just appear to be a second.

[Anonymous No.15904049]

>>15900895
>because consciousness and memory
wtf r u going on about? nothing you said makes any sense get this shit off my board faggot

[Anonymous No.15904053]

>>15904023
>Stop citing occam's razor when it doesn't apply to your "argument", midwit.
Imagine being this dense. This cretin actually think that postulating an ephemeral copy of the brain with absolutely no evidence and no added explanatory power has nothing to do with Occam's Razor. Holy shit, the deep delusion this imbecile lives in every day.

[Anonymous No.15904056]

>>15904053
Whatever you want to believe, bub :^)

[Anonymous No.15904078]

>>15904053
You sound scared.

[Anonymous No.15904080]

>>15904037
Even if anyone can report experience with no brain activity (I call bullshit on this), it can only happen after the fact. And fake memories are really no surprise if you know the first thing about brain pathology. If you think this disproves materialism, you don't think much.

[Anonymous No.15904086]

>>15904080
Mental gymnastics.

[Anonymous No.15904089]

>>15904078
You only project your wishful thinking, also nice argument brainlet, I enjoy your unconditional surrender.

[Anonymous No.15904097]

Imagine unironically being a physicalist reductionist atheist.
I personally can't. How soulless do you have to be to feel no yearning for the spiritual?
Maybe the gnostics were right about the hylic thing.

[Anonymous No.15904102]

>>15900895
Ultimate Journey by Robert Monroe.

[Anonymous No.15904105]

>>15904089
A lot of buzzwords, a lot of fear. But there's nothing to be afraid of, anon.

[Anonymous No.15904107]

>>15904086
Another brainlet concedes defeat. Those reading this who want to actually learn the first thing about consciousness research can check out Dennet's Orwellian vs Stalinist memory, get something that isn't retarded out of this thread.

[Anonymous No.15904131]

>>15904107
Your gesticulations are amusing. This was never a debate, I provided you with a reasonable source that deconstructs physicalist arguments, which you haven't bothered looking at (considering the delay between your posts and the length of the video).
There is nothing to concede, you haven't made any kind of argument to refute. This isn't debate club.
Instead of desperately looking for validation through shitposting, please attempt to open yourself to possibilities beyond your initial assumptions, you might find that your initial kneejerk reaction was ridiculous and unwarranted.

[Anonymous No.15904142]

>>15904086
>>15904131

[Anonymous No.15904150]

>>15900895
The only field I've read into that has a decent explanation of whatever it could be is Kabbalah.

Ask yourself this: what is life?

[Anonymous No.15904262]

I hope there's an afterlife. I want to see my dog again.

[Anonymous No.15904278]

>>15903949
>>15904037
This guy is a pretty notorious. He's good enough of a scientist and a theoretician to get into some high profile journals. But in the very same journals soon after you can find critiques that tear him down. Reasons why he's a hack are a bit complicated, but easy enough to research if you have the inclination.

[Anonymous No.15904604]

>>15903862
thats not yourself though. the "you" isnt. youre imagining it like there is a you but its experiencing nothing and since nothing cant be experienced, the you experiences something again, but there is no "you" anymore.

>>15903881
of course its just semantics, the true definition of death is what we are arguing but sadly baseless assumptions is all i have to go on. i cant disprove the picture, im just saying it doesnt sit right with me and feels like a giant cope. even if you do get reincarnated without your memories, then thats not really you and you might as well be dead. our conception of a continous consciousness is dependant on memories.