/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15896142]

When will Mutts learn the difference between liberal and leftist

[Anonymous No.15896171]

>>15896142
what is the difference? and books to help understand the difference and more on leftist non-queer shit

[Anonymous No.15896179]

>>15896142
There is no such thing as a "leftist", cease the mutt brainwashing

[Anonymous No.15896192]

>>15896142
>Political dichotomies
Found the retard

[Anonymous No.15896215]

>Staring young Hanna directly in her glazed eyes, sneaking second long looks at her bosom, admiring how much she's grown
>"One copy of Deutschland's bestseller, Mein Kampf, please."

[Anonymous No.15896218]

>>15896171
Leftism is mass starvation but it appeals to college intellectuals, liberalism self evidently works and creates a high standard of living so college intellectuals and basement intellectuals on the right have to play devil's advocate to seem smart and fill the void with rad ideological consumerism

[Anonymous No.15896227]

>>15896215

[Anonymous No.15896230]

We will never care about the autistic gradations of marxist jargon.

[Anonymous No.15896236]

When you learn that the New Left represents contemporary leftism, not tankies. It's like saying conservatives are royalists

[Anonymous No.15896238]

>>15896230
We will suck butts

[Anonymous No.15896265]

So you're saying that the people saying "all white people are racists and all men are rapists" are not leftists. Which would mean that they are right wing?
You're just an old school leftist who hasn't accepted that society is not only divided by wealth, but also by race, sex, etc... And that capitalism is not the only tool of oppression, but so are the patriarchy, white supremacy, etc... And that the family, the state, whiteness etc... have to be abolished with private property.
So don't be a reactionary anon.
What you see today with leftists is the logical conclusion of what Marx started, so get in with the program, or become a dirty nazi.

[Anonymous No.15896267]

>>15896236
There is no left in American just right-libs and left-libs autistically screeching at each other

[Anonymous No.15896282]

You're telling me there is a difference between a conservative, republican and right-winger?

[Anonymous No.15896289]

>>15896142
Liberals are leftists are both degen and cringe, so it does not matter.

[Anonymous No.15896292]

>>15896267
>abolishing the police isn't a leftist idea

[Anonymous No.15896305]

>>15896282
In the UK where Tories represent the Conservatives Republicans would be considered liberals

[Anonymous No.15896321]

>>15896265
>What you see today with leftists is the logical conclusion of what Marx started
Lol did take what that lobsterfag says seriously

[Anonymous No.15896326]

>>15896227

[Anonymous No.15896371]

>>15896326

[Anonymous No.15896431]

>>15896371
>foucault
>marxism
t.brainlet

[Anonymous No.15896449]

>>15896142
>When will Mutts learn the difference between liberal and leftist
when the liberals stop enthusiastically bringing the leftists into their tent, and when the leftists stop being grade-A democrat shills

[Anonymous No.15896593]

>>15896449
What would you expect would happen in a two party system

[Anonymous No.15896859]

>>15896142
one buys little rainbow flag pins for their backpack

the other buys hammer and sickle pins AND rainbow flag pins for their backpack

[Anonymous No.15896909]

>>15896142
>When will Mutts learn

When will Marxists learn? There are no relevant anti-liberal Marxists today. /leftypol/ isn't relevant.

[Anonymous No.15897156]

>>15896909
>There are no relevant anti-liberal Marxists today
Chinese Maoists? Y´know, the largest Marxist demographic.

[Anonymous No.15897161]

>>15896142
When leftoids learn the difference between right-winger and nazi

[Anonymous No.15897168]

>>15896142
Personally I´ll be happy if they just started using the term "liberal" correctly. Because for them liberal equals right wing.

[Anonymous No.15897281]

>>15897156
>China is Marxist

marxist imbecile

[Anonymous No.15897300]

Not this decade. Mutts are too stupid. I fucking hate mutts, they need to be purged.

[Anonymous No.15897386]

>>15896142
>/lit/

[Anonymous No.15897417]

>>15897281
Vast majority of Marxists today are found in China. What´s your problem with this fact?

[Anonymous No.15897484]

>>15896142
you say that like the two are not inextricably linked in the modern day. why do leftists have suck mental disonence on this topic? regardless of what you think about it a large majority of self proclaimed leftists act and are essentially peak “liberal” as you put it. its literally just your word verses them. tell me it only makes sejse that people who want to dismantle capital also wabn to dismantle a whole myrad if other things like gender and social norms. you guys are almost as retarded as /pol/. at least they have the decency to know their own even when they are autistic fuckwits.

[Anonymous No.15897625]

>>15897484
>you say that like the two are not inextricably linked in the modern day.
They're not. Republicans are also liberal.

[Anonymous No.15897668]

>>15897484
It seems to happen on the left a lot with people who obsess over their little groups to the point that they fail to realize their miniscule differences are completely irrelevant to everyone else.
Fact of the matter is that both liberals and leftists are the exact same mentally ill college trannies. There is absolutely a type, and you can see that type with the mugshots of all the antifa rioters over the past month.

[Anonymous No.15897717]

>>15896909
Zizek for one there are others but i figured you people would've heard of him after he made that lobsterfag his bitch

[Anonymous No.15897735]

Imagine believing in Left vs Right.

[Anonymous No.15897747]

>>15897281
Not all Moaists are Chinese though there is a Maoist insurrection in India called the Naxalites who are gaining more support than ever and have take a significant amount of land in the countryside

[Anonymous No.15897801]

>>15896218
Honestly? Based. True liberals rise up! We've been oppressed for too long by these retarded extremes.

[Anonymous No.15897943]

>>15897735
This. Being centered is best.

[Anonymous No.15898054]

>>15896142
You'd have a better chance teaching Africans how to use protections. Mutts are unsalvageable.

[Anonymous No.15898066]

i think right wing and left wing need to focus on targeting liberals instead of targeting each other. the one in power are liberals and they can fight each other after taking care of the existing people in power.

[Anonymous No.15898084]

>>15898066
When you think about it, the nazis could've won ww2 if they didn't attack the soviets. We could be living in a post nazi bolshevik cold war by now.
Anyway, too bad commies are concerned about who should play in what gendered division and pee in which bathroom now.

[Anonymous No.15898102]

>>15898084
i guess you are right but he got screwed by every side. both leftists and capitalists hated him. they didn't like a third position to rise.

[Anonymous No.15898103]

>>15898066
> the one in power are liberals
Maybe in mainland Yurop and Scandinavia. UK, Burgerstan and pretty much most of the world is run by cuckservatives.

[Anonymous No.15898115]

>>15898103
cuckservatives are liberals still.

[Anonymous No.15898137]

>>15898115
Ehhh, sure to a point. They still have more than enough differences, so putting them all into one basket is way too simplistic.

[Anonymous No.15898161]

>>15898137
??

[Anonymous No.15898182]

>>15898137
they are both keeping the system going and conserving it. thats my point. third positionists attacking leftists or leftists attacking the fascists or anarchist smashing the fash is useless when the liberals is still in power. if anarchists for example genuinely want anarchy they should attack the elite instead of engaging in petty wars against non existent powers.

[Anonymous No.15898218]

>>15898182
>they are both keeping the system going and conserving it. thats my point.
A fair enough, can't argue with that.
>smashing the fash is useless when the liberals is still in power
Less fash is still a net win. Besides real anarchists are a laughable minority and something like antifa has people of all sort of ideologies, who'd be smashing each other if there wasn't a bigger target.

Historically, you can see it with commies and fascists too. They end up murdering each other internally even if they do win power.

[Anonymous No.15898238]

>>15897417
>Deng reforms
Historical texts are now a part of the mandated pre-post reading materials

[Anonymous No.15898282]

>>15898218
>who'd be smashing each other if there wasn't a bigger target.
lol sadly its true.
>They end up murdering each other internally even if they do win power.
at least after they won or has a chance to rise to power. now they are spending energy fighting each other when there is no point. i get debate and thinkers talking with each other but seeing them beat each other in the streets is retarded. anarchists especially are making efforts to smash people skulls when they are not even a threat.

[Anonymous No.15898301]

>>15898218
>Less fash is still a net win.
Get back to us when the famines begin faggot

[Anonymous No.15898303]

>>15898282
>anarchists especially are making efforts to smash people skulls when they are not even a threat.
How many of the people doing that are even actual anarchists who could at least parrot basic ideas of anarchism and how many just alienated teens who look for company though?

[Anonymous No.15898310]

>>15898218
>antifa
>all sorts of ideologies
They're all anarchocommunists.
The anarchy part comes from the fact that they see literally everything around them as being "FASCIST CAPITALISM", therefore every cent of property damage and every drop of blood spilled by random pedestrians is all a striking a blow against capitalism in their minds.
The communist part is because after they destroy the country, they want to replace it with communism, but don't actually do anything to further communist aims beyond assaulting people with no political power, and torching small shops that just make people hate communism even more.

[Anonymous No.15898366]

>>15898303
>how many just alienated teens who look for company though?
most of them but thats normal. all ideologies have thinkers and mobs. the problem is that the liberals are keeping the antifa types busy with useless shit. they need to read. the real anarchists(whatever sect or group) need to start doing propaganda and commentary channels. fascists and anarchists are the most retards when it comes to knowing their ideologies.

[Anonymous No.15898370]

>>15896142
The difference is that leftists THINK they aren't liberals.

[Anonymous No.15898384]

>>15898370
you compare Stalin and Lenin to Hillary and Biden? wtf

[Anonymous No.15898396]

>>15898384
Yes, unironically. Ontologically speaking, they're all liberals. The latter are just a more developed form of the former.

[Anonymous No.15898404]

>>15898396
ok. then do you compare Trump to Hitler?

[Anonymous No.15898405]

>>15898303
They're a literal cult.
This isn't like falling in with the bad kids who convinced you to smoke cigarettes behind the school; it takes a severe amount of mindscrubbing to bring yourself to attack random people because you're somehow convinced they're all "nazis" in the most liberal cities in the country.
By the time they reach that stage, they also look very, very far from normal. It's not a case of "They could be any of us!", because looking at all the mugshots coming out of Portland, they all look like visibly degenerate tranny freaks with that 1000 yard NPC stare.

[Anonymous No.15898410]

>>15898404
I think it would be disingenuous to call the most pro-Zionist president in the history of the country a nazi.
I think everyone else already noticed this four years ago.

[Anonymous No.15898411]

>>15898396
>Ontologically speaking
fucking retard lmao

[Anonymous No.15898412]

>>15898310
>They're all anarchocommunists.
They really aren't though. It's unlikely even the black block is, but average antifa-fag is basically a more politically active anonymous and ranges from liberal college kids from wealthy families to weirdos living in squatter communities.

>>15898366
>fascists and anarchists are the most retards when it comes to knowing their ideologies.
Maybe it has something to do with their ideology being too fragile and suboptimal for any idea of somewhat modern society.

Conservative and liberals seem in the best position to remain in power due their adaptability and pragmatism. Unless there is a unprecedented crisis which absolutely destroys their ideologies, I don't see them losing. Propaganda can be always hijacked and watered down.

[Anonymous No.15898416]

>>15898404
Fascists, Nazis and Donald Trump are also liberals.

[Anonymous No.15898425]

>>15898411
>fucking retard lmao

[Anonymous No.15898443]

>>15898416
fascists and nazis are third positionists.

[Anonymous No.15898448]

>>15898412
>liberal college kids from wealthy families to weirdos living in squatter communities.
These are the same people.

[Anonymous No.15898449]

>>15898410
Hitler wasn't against zionism either and actually wanted to send Jews away to Israel. And it's not like he didn't get support from zionists either.

The GOP probably has more zionist friendly voters than Israel, even going by proportions.

[Anonymous No.15898452]

>>15898443
Yeah dude, third positionists are liberals.

[Anonymous No.15898455]

>>15898416
>Fascists are liberals
Elaborate.

[Anonymous No.15898459]

>>15898412
>Unless there is a unprecedented crisis which absolutely destroys their ideologies
most extremists on both sides wish for this.

[Anonymous No.15898462]

>>15896265
>So you're saying that the people saying "all white people are racists and all men are rapists" are not leftists. Which would mean that they are right wing?
This is reductive reasoning that makes an assumption of a Left/Right continuum that is exclusive of a third position off of the line. The rest devolved so badly into gibberish that it is fully unintelligible.

[Anonymous No.15898464]

>>15898452
indeed bruh

[Anonymous No.15898471]

>>15898448
They really aren't. One group is going to their suburban homes after letting the steam out, finish their degree and do some white collar job, in a few years they will bitch about antifa burning their Mercedes. The more hardcore ones will remain down with the cause if they didn't die from an overdose or aids.

[Anonymous No.15898476]

>>15896292
If the Left/Right continuum were real then the most reasonable position for Communists is on the far left and the most reasonable position for Anarchists is on the far right.

[Anonymous No.15898477]

>>15898455
Same form, different content. Authority still has to justified by some sort of super-authoritarian entity like "the people" or "the volk".

[Anonymous No.15898484]

>>15898459
I mean, it's given. It's the only realistic way for them to get power. Funny enough, it makes them not too distant with religious fags, who also wait for an apocalypse.

[Anonymous No.15898490]

>>15898455
they are not. when they risen to power marxist didn't expect it so they say they are just liberals and capitalists

[Anonymous No.15898496]

>>15898425
Yes, you are. Please get off my board.

[Anonymous No.15898497]

>>15898452
>>15898490
Marxists are also liberals.

[Anonymous No.15898498]

>>15898484
>religious fags, who also wait for an apocalypse.
its coming. there is no way this is sustainable. a collapse is coming.

[Anonymous No.15898499]

>>15898477
Justified authority is liberal? Wouldn't that mean that civilization itself is lib-
Sheeeeit

[Anonymous No.15898506]

>>15898490
>they are not.
Read more you stupid reactionary.

[Anonymous No.15898515]

>>15898506
>extermination center
Stopped.

[Anonymous No.15898517]

>>15898497
damn strait.

[Anonymous No.15898520]

>>15898496
You're the type of absolute braindead retard that thinks Marx didn't have a metaphysics or an ontology because he didn't title a book as such. Just kys you dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.15898525]

>it's another episode of "everyone I don't like is a liberal"

[Anonymous No.15898528]

>>15898471
Anon, these retards are able to sustain their hippy squatter commune lifestyle because their parents pay for it.
That's why instead of out pandhandling and collecting bottles from garbage cans to recycle, like the actual destitute do, they're able to spend all their time assaulting random people and lighting buildings on fire before going back to their local coffee stores to chug down $10 frappachinos.
It might just be a phase for them that they'll grow out of, but clearly something has gone horribly wrong along the way that they unironically do this kind of shit in the first place.

[Anonymous No.15898533]

>>15898515
>>15898525
Read nigger read

[Anonymous No.15898534]

>>15896859
This is the pragmatic reality that, whatever they choose to call themselves, the physical representation of their philosophy matters more than the pedantic theories to which they subscribe. We cannot ignore what exists in the political sphere IRL just because it does not conform to the doctrine with which it identifies. It is just gaslighting to blame people far outside of a group for recognizing individuals the same way as they self-identify. It carries a tinge of "No True Scotsman".

[Anonymous No.15898537]

>>15898520
Didn't say anything about metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.15898538]

>>15898525
It's just retarded marxists trying to take the overton window and run off into the sunset with it.

[Anonymous No.15898540]

>>15898506
read nazi economics. the large industries were owned by the state via hierarchy.

[Anonymous No.15898547]

>>15897161
"Nazi" is a racial pejorative used to denigrate Germans.

[Anonymous No.15898548]

>>15898499
>Justified authority is liberal?
No. Only authority justified by a supposedly preexisting entity that somehow exists prior to the authority.

[Anonymous No.15898549]

>>15898498
Short of nuclear war triggered by accident, I don't see it. Even stuff like climate change and overpopulation are unlikely to do the trick due how adaptable the system is.

[Anonymous No.15898550]

>>15898533
niggers are liberals

[Anonymous No.15898554]

>>15898533
I already knew all this.

[Anonymous No.15898558]

>>15896236
This. Rip Tony Benn

[Anonymous No.15898560]

>>15898549
in my opinion overpopulation will do it. to many people to sustain. plagues and starvation will happen and the system will collapse. thats one way it could happen.

[Anonymous No.15898564]

>>15897717
leftists call zizek a crypto-fascist all the time

[Anonymous No.15898563]

>>15898547
No, it's used to denigrate nazis.

[Anonymous No.15898567]

>>15898540
>nazi economics
OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.15898569]

>>15898537
>Didn't say anything about metaphysics.
>Ontology 1. the branch of metaphysics dealing with the nature of being.
Just kys brainlet

[Anonymous No.15898572]

>>15898084
You fail to account for the 24,000 Westbound boxcars full of ordnance. There was going to be a German/Russian aspect to the conflict (outside of Poland/Czech/Slovakia) regardless of who struck the first blow.

[Anonymous No.15898580]

>>15898567
privatization was only allowed to small businesses and some bank supported them because they knew they will win. in the end of it they are socialists. read feder.

[Anonymous No.15898582]

>>15898533
Workers unions are incredibly prone to corruption; it's only sensible to disband them and integrate the laborers into state authorized unions while allowing private companies discrimination in employment choice.

[Anonymous No.15898590]

>>15898569
You seem to think you've made a coherent argument. You haven't (because your IQ is in double digits). Try again.

[Anonymous No.15898607]

>>15898567
Why the fuck would national socialism follow anywhere near the course of the Marxist retardation that killed millions in the preceding years

[Anonymous No.15898623]

>>15898590
>You seem to think you've made a coherent argument.
Your cognitive shortcomings aren't my problem.

[Anonymous No.15898630]

>>15898580
>some bank supported them because they knew they will win
>in the end of it they are socialists
It was policy. Brutal cope.
>>15898582
>state authorized unions
>>15898607
Unintentionally hilarious post.

[Anonymous No.15898664]

>>15898630
nigga nigga nae nigga nigga nae
nigga nae nigga nae nae

[Anonymous No.15898689]

>>15898623
I'm actually quite stunned that someone this stupid is seemingly able to operate a computer.

[Anonymous No.15898712]

>>15898630
>Everything I don't like is porky

[Anonymous No.15898719]

>>15898712
Correct.

[Anonymous No.15898735]

>>15898689
Confused, unable to understand, and now stunned. Again, your cognitive shortcomings are not my problem.

[Anonymous No.15898763]

>>15898735
>Confused, unable to understand
I know you are, but what about me?

[Anonymous No.15898779]

it's scenester bullshit for zoomer tweens and registered democrats. there are more grizzly bears than marxists in the united states. all the ersatz pundits on twitter are lying and a percentage of a percentage of the population actually listen to them if you're being generous. not worth differentiating in casual conversation. don't worry about it

[Anonymous No.15898793]

>>15898719
I'm sure you will get that coveted cheka position comrade

[Anonymous No.15898796]

>>15898735
>>15898763
Find a room already.

[Anonymous No.15898826]

>>15898763
>I know you are
And to add to the list: referring to yourself in the second person. You're a confused mind indeed.

[Anonymous No.15898851]

>>15898826
Nah, I actually meant you, because you're so fucking stupid it's unreal.

[Anonymous No.15898907]

>>15898851
>because you're so fucking stupid it's unreal
Still talking in the second person, I see.

[Anonymous No.15899188]

>>15896142
Mutts, liberals, leftists... They all look the same to the firing squad.

[Anonymous No.15899944]

>>15897417
imbecile

Marxists really have the lowest IQ and smuggest copes

[Anonymous No.15899958]

>>15897717
>Zizek is anti-liberal

The guy who tells jokes in front of liberal audiences and just panders to whatever they want to hear (ex. praising Greta Thunberg after spending many years denouncing environmentalism as another big other) and who literally ran as the leader of the Liberal party in Slovenia is not a liberal, because?

[Anonymous No.15899967]

>>15898384
>muh BASED anti-liberal Stalin!

not even tankies can cope with Stalin's anti-semitism

[Anonymous No.15899972]

>>15899944
>Marxists really have the lowest IQ and smuggest copes
I'd probably be a full blown lefty if all of them weren't high 24/7 on their sense of moral superiority and subsequent chastising of everyone around them who display the slightest deviation of beliefs.

[Anonymous No.15899984]

>>15899972
That's fair. Marxism ironically enables capitalism and we won't go beyond this impasse until the left abandons
1. Marx
2. Left/Right paradigm