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https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/great-books/

>> No.15880139

>>15879660
What a retarded list.

>> No.15880220

>>15879660
>2 books by Freud
>11 books by Jung
terrible list, laughably bad considering this guy is supposed to be a psychologist

>> No.15880240

>Dostoesky
>1984
>Bronte
it's like this faggot just found a stash of babbies' first books and decided they were his favourite books

>> No.15880248

>>15879660
Anyone on /lit/ would respect it, but for the source.

>> No.15880251

>>15880248
Christ was rejected too, at first.

>> No.15880270

It amazes me that Peterson still gets posted on /lit/ even though he has been losing relevancy everywhere else. I thought that by now his initial enchantment would already have faded for most posters.

>> No.15880274

>>15880240
>>15880240

>> No.15880277

>>15879660
Why exactly does he want people to read Lord of the Flies? Because without an explanation, and with a psychologist recommending it you could be led to believe that it's supposed to help you understand human nature and for that purpose it's coma-in-russia-tier-addiction tier retarded.

>> No.15880283

>>15880240
Imagine being such an elitist, pretentious cunt that you look down on people who list three literary classics among a hundred of their favourite books.
kys

>> No.15880292

>>15880283
they're some of the most generic and overrepresented literary classics out there

>> No.15880298

>>15879660
>no Lovecraft
lol pleb

>> No.15880306

>>15880270
I remember that there were quite a lot of his followers on here, desperate to prove that there was indeed *something* special and insightful about the man. That favor didn't survive Zizek.

>> No.15880364

>>15880277

He only reads fiction not for Bloom-esque aesthetic purposes, but because of their "psychological and political insight" or something. This is what makes the list shit, the literature section at least. Those books are entirely useless and brainlet tier if you want to read them for didactic purposes.

>> No.15880397

>>15880270
The constant influx of fresh /pol/incels keeps him afloat.

>> No.15880424

>that anti-Islam book

Yeah, hes a jew alright

>> No.15880429

>>15880270
People love to hate on him so he'll never go away. The Drumpf of /lit/.

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15880471

>>15879660
>Patrician taste

>> No.15880474

>>15880429
Wait, maybe that actually confirms my thought. He is getting more hate than love now, isn't he. Maybe because his initial fans indeed have fallen out with him, and are now lashing out against him.

>> No.15880484

>>15880220
Based, fuck Fraud

>> No.15880488

>>15880484
Freud>Jung unironically

>> No.15880503

>>15880240
Peterson has zero culture, even his skills in psychology are embarrassing.

>> No.15880523

>>15880503
networking gets you places

>> No.15880543

>>15880488
I'll take an occultist over a jew that projected his sexual degeneracy on the whole world because mommy didn't give him enough milk or he shit his diapers in the wrong position once or something

>> No.15880547

>>15880503
Has he ever commented on his clinical work?

>> No.15880564

>>15880484
He literally listed Freud twice. Why does anyone pay attention to this benzo-addled pseud crackpot.

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>>15880523

>> No.15880578

>>15880543
Fool that you are, you focus on the glaring weirdies and fails to account for his visionary.

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15880681

>Three Orwell books

>> No.15880690

This just looks like a list of the books that are on Jordan Peterson's bookshelf.

>> No.15880714

>>15879660
if you cannot kill a man, you are not a psychologist.

>> No.15880727

>>15880714
are serial killers the most suitable psychologists

>> No.15880736

>>15880681
>three orwell books but no homage to catalonia

cringe

>> No.15880769

kek seems like he hasn't read a great deal

>> No.15880770

>>15880364
>entirely useless and brainlet tier if you want to read them for didactic purposes
Rec some better books to learn from?

>> No.15880863

>>15880474
>He is getting more hate than love now
It's always been like this

>> No.15881032

>>15880292
durr too popular, cant be favorite

this is your average /lit elitist

>> No.15881044

>>15880248
pretty much.

>> No.15881048

for as much as he loves Jung he has failed to understand the principles of archetypes

>> No.15881057

just a friendly reminder to everyone ITT you will never be real women and communism does not, nor will ever, work.

>> No.15881081

>>15880714
>1945
>fly plane over hiroshima
>press drop bomb button
>become the greatest psychologist of all time
he probably killed a lot of women too thou

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15881142

>>15879660
Patrician taste? Here you go Dr. Peterson, she should satiate you plenty.

>> No.15881168

>>15879660
>The State of the World: A 21st Century Update
>All are fukuyamists
This part completely ruins it.

>> No.15881535

>>15880681
>only three Orwell books

>> No.15881541

>>15880727
Dostoevsky's work would have been infinitely improved had he actually killed someone beforehand

>> No.15881559

>>15881142
She's easy on the eyes but god damn is she irritating whenever she opens her mouth

>> No.15881598

lmfao he actually recommends zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. I really thought this dweeb couldn't get any worse

>> No.15881777

>>15880248
Nah, it seems like the majority of /lit/ is made up of people like you who defend him against the minority of people who are critical of him.

>> No.15882037

>>15881598
What's so bad about zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance? I'm halfway through and think the author is conceded and the philosophical points trite, but I don't know why it seems to have garnered such a degree of hate here on /lit/

>> No.15882049

>>15882037
*conceited, damn auto correct

>> No.15882063

>The Bible: Designed to be Read as Living Literature
Pretty plebian

>> No.15882087

>>15879660
>the freud books he posts under clinical psychiatry don't actually help with learning about clinical psychiatry
>he could have literally chosen any other book than the dream book
Yeah I'm thinking pseud

>> No.15882181

>>15881777
I defended him, huh? Digits wasted on an illiterate.

>> No.15882197

>>15880240
Babbies' first books is usually equal to good books.

>> No.15882216

>>15880736
What the fuck was he thinking?

>> No.15882258

>>15881032
While the "it's popular, so it's bad" impulse is quite strong on /lit/, there's something suspicious about an adult having a favorite book/film/television show list completely devoid of surprises. It feels a bit like he never ventured away from what he was told to read.

>> No.15882396

>>15879660
That Solzhenitsyn section seems to be... missing something.

>>15880571
digusting, obnoxious kike (Gorka, that is)

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Ass

>> No.15882929

>>15882037
Because that poster still hasn't fixed his leaky faucet 6 months later.

>> No.15882934

>>15879660
>no Schmitt
No wonder he's a cringe liberal

>> No.15882962

>>15879660
>no Cervantes
Dropped

>> No.15882992

“what if... I use Jungian archetypes, but then pretend that culture has no say on how they are interpreted or influenced and then use them to justify the trad life”
trash human with a bad take on Jung

>> No.15883019

>>15880240
Yes, just like the trinity Butters likes to spam.

>> No.15883083

>>15880863
He had a lot of unironic supporters here when he first showed up.

>> No.15884295

>>15880251
JBP doesn't even believe in Christ

>> No.15884374

Is Tolstoy by Henri Troyat any good?

>> No.15884426

>>15879660
>multiple books by Huxley and Hemingway yet none by Melville or Faulkner
Pleb

>> No.15884463

>>15883083
He still does; though, they are dying out or moving on to other memes (Stoicism, Mishima, the Bible, whatever).

>> No.15884667

>>15881142

Am I just projecting or does this whole family consists of complete narcissists

>> No.15884691

>>15884667
you're just projecting

>> No.15884711

JP is not a literature professor, it's kind of silly to expect some deep cuts or whatever.
Most of his picks are pretty standard classics, nothing wrong with that.

OMG WHY HE NO GOT ANY POST-MODERN MAXIMALIST BOOKS?

>> No.15884728

>>15884711
I just don't understand why he'd publish such a list when he clearly hasn't read any literature since his undergrad. He could've picked a bunch of nonfiction instead.

>> No.15884741

>>15880240
stirner neech and ??

>> No.15884785

>>15879660
>Hammet, Dashiel: The Maltese Falcon

wtf Jordo, that's both names misspelt

>> No.15884800

I don't understand hyping up Dostoevsky's Demons, dry as fuck for the first two books besides occasional madman moments of Kirillov and Stavrogin, and when Trofimovich gives the speech about the section in Luke where demons go into the pigs, I was wondering are you fucking kidding me, do you take reader for a retard that can't pick up the matic clues or what.

>> No.15884825

>>15881559
>irritating whenever she opens her mouth
Gets it from her father

>> No.15884842

>>15881142
Just how strict is her meat diet anyway? If she cooks up some minced beef is she adding some tomatoes to it?

>> No.15884851

Why are people saying these are his personal favourites? Based on the link and books they seem more like a recommended books to read to understand the world and yourself better.

>> No.15884875

>>15884851
That makes it even worse.

>> No.15885108

>>15884800
>Why hype Demons
Because of when it was written and what happened next IRL in Russia. It's prophetic.

>> No.15885274

>>15884295
Well, what do you mean by "believe"? What do you mean by "Christ"? What do you mean by "in"? The poor formulation of this statement is the exact kind of thing that would characterize the world view of a radical cultural Marxist!

>> No.15885603

>>15884800
Kirilov's suicide is scary.

>> No.15885695

>>15882992
>BuT hE NevER uSEs mY MasTuRbAtoRy tEchNiqUes

jungs goal was to find the things about the psyche that transcended its cultural lense. Called it archetypes. You sir are projecting

>> No.15886762

>>15885695
yes but all perception is colored by culture
there can be masculine and feminine archetypes imprinted upon us but the way we interpret those is based on culture
Petersons’s claims are that you can only be psychologically healthy if you express those archetypes in the way that we have in the ‘traditional’ form of society, when we’ve moved past that as a species.

>> No.15886789

>>15880220
Freud is like if a horny stoner managed to get himself a psychology clinic. The absolute pinnacle of psuedo-intellectualism.

>> No.15887389

>>15881142
fuck those legs baka

>> No.15887479

>>15880220
Freud has been disproved for decades. Sorry you want to fuck your mom but it turns out most people do not.

>> No.15887510

Pretty good taste tbqh. Not really patrician though.

>> No.15887561

He's a fucking psychologist not a lit professor you fucking idiots. What do you expect (AWWWW PLEASE GIVE US SOME POST-MODERN)


Grow up you children. Go Impress your feminist gf who sits on your baby balls.

>> No.15887721

>>15887561
This. Thread reeks of salty virgins/neets

>> No.15887744

>>15881048
do tell

>> No.15887788

>>15887721
So many salty virgin boys. Go donate to your titty twitch streamers.

>> No.15887796

>>15879660
Books you've only read once don't count.

>> No.15888076

/lit/ doesn't like good books, /lit/ likes weird, eccentric, and not well known books. To /lit/, knowing the very names of theses books and authors is like knowing magical power words that make them "special" and allow them to revel in fantasies of superiority.

>what you don't know who MAX STIRNER is?? well obviously you don't because your a NORMIE and I'm a HIGH IQ INTELLECTUAL

>> No.15888122

>>15879660
>Nietzsche & Pinker
U wot m8

>> No.15888154

>>15881541
completely true

>> No.15888156

>>15879660
Pretty embarrassing list with huge gaps where independent thinkers should be, there's a bunch of institution-vetted dweebs. No Pynchon, no DeLillo, no Wolfe, no poets, no Indie philosophers. Honestly, wtf.

>> No.15889008

>>15884295
How so? Do tell

>> No.15889028

>>15887561
yOu'Re TaKinG HiM oUT oF CoNTeXt

>> No.15889037

>>15889008
This.

He is Christ returned. He can't deny his own existence.

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>>15880503
>zero culture

>> No.15889166

>>15889132
Just listen to his idiotic analysis of Marxism, Post-Modernism, and tell me this guy knows what the hell he's talking about.

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>>15889132
>defending the lobsterman

>> No.15889523

It's not bad but more basic than I'd have thought. I'm surprised there's no poetry in the literature section unless I'm not recognizing something.

>> No.15889721

>>15885603
It's a mesmerising moment, I've yet to recall a scene that I've read that would capture comparable tension.

>> No.15889793

>>15879660
must have written it while he was still on the horse tranqs

>> No.15890302

bump

>> No.15890307

>>15886789
horny crackhead*

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15890319

>>15879660
Guy is a joke after reading some of E. Michael Jones.

>> No.15890345

>>15880240
Just like /lit/

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>>15880220
>>15880488
>Freud

>> No.15890378

>>15880220
>>2 books by Freud
>>11 books by Jung
>terrible list, laughably bad considering this guy is supposed to be a psychologist
Literally listed under a massive sub-heading that reads:
>CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGY AND PSYCHIATRY
>Freud and Jung
not understanding the history of your speciality is...a strength?

>>15880248
this

>>15880139
>>15880240
>>15880270

>>15880424

Oh, the shills!! lol

>> No.15890419

>>15890354
Jung has absolutely no leg to stand on here, he purposely and blatantly includes undefined, undefinable "mysticism" into all of his theories himself. Freud's intention of building a bulwark against occultism and mysticism is eminently based considering what it can do to someone like Jung. Jung even unironically projects this "unconscious religiosity" onto Freud when that very factor explicitly undergirds Jung's work

In short, Jung was a hack who was just salty that his teacher wouldn't tolerate his wishy washy vagueness and mysticism

>> No.15890440

>>15890378
If your understanding of the history of psychology consists of 24 books, nearly HALF of which are Jung, you have problems

>> No.15890444

>>15880240
>babbies' first
cringe tier /a/ / /v/ expression

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>>15890419
>Jung has absolutely no leg to stand on here

>> No.15890456

>>15890419
Freud was just a blatant subversive kike and Jung was the cure for his evil cancerous garbage. Jung's mysticism is just intellectual honesty when faced with the real profundity of the contents of the unconscious and the mystery of consciousness. There's no other good way to approach it. Freud just had to jump to conclusions and be as subversive as he could while at it like the dirty perverted Jew that he was.

>> No.15890478

>>15890456
Attributing the unknown to mysticism isn't intellectual honesty, it's just a way of projecting your own bias onto a mystery and claiming you've added anything whatsoever to the discourse. Also, if the best criticism of someone you can come up with is their ethnicity, you're just not going to make it, anon.

>> No.15890502

>>15890478
ok schlomo

>> No.15890510

>>15890444
/ /mu/

>> No.15890545

> Pinker, Steven: Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress

lmao

>> No.15890599

>>15879660
>https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/great-books/
lol no Thomas Mann

>> No.15891020

https://seanald.ca/jesus-the-individual/

>> No.15891335

>>15891020
this is garbage